Donald Trump presidency discussion thread V

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Kimsang wrote: »

He's right, a lot of journalists in this day and age are pedalling regurgitated nonsense while backslapping each other on twitter. The same for the humanities in academia. This disinformation and abandonment of intellectualism are true evils.

Trump has not done anything to impede the work of journalists. Get a grip on yourself. Nor has he tried to change any laws.

What you're talking about is editorial bias, which is common even here in Ireland; that doesn't justify calling the 4th estate "Enemies of the People". You're insinuating subtly in a situation where this will not be interpreted by those wanting to take literal shots at those "enemies". Or indeed post hoax pipe bombs. You should know full well America's language is often coded as goodies vs. baddies, being either "With us or against us" to use the language from Iraq II. No normal democratic leader - no matter how much he/she hated the press - would dream of calling them (or even a subset) the "Enemy of the People" because it has historical, dangerous context that I would have presumed we all know of here.

And to be clear, he spoke in these terms all the way back to 2016, when on one occasion he said he'd pay the legal fees of anyone who wanted to have a pop at a protestor at his rallies. Edited: sorry, I said journalist, it was against protestors; https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-incitement-violence/ IMO the point remains the same, he flippantly encourages violence through coded, or uncoded language.

It's loaded language, and you're are dancing around through equivocation. Oh he meant <this> specific set; so then it's OK to make them "the enemy"? Violence against journalists is OK if they're dishonest? This is something of a broken record because the exact same justification was used before, but honestly I think it's a bit intellectually dishonest to try and warp loaded, triggering words into something subtler - when clearly Trump HATES negative publicity of any stripe, even having a pop at Fox the few times some like Shep Smith or Cavuto have been less than praiseworthy.

Actually look at the man in the hotseat, rather than trying to lens everything he does through your own bias that "The Left" are behind this slew of publicity. Trump has a storied, controversial, well publicised business & personal history prior to his election and little of his behaviour is new or particularly different. He's a tycoon & egomaniac.

RIGOLO

TomOnBoard wrote: »

I fully agree with that statement.

However, what is not acknowledged in the process is that MS-13 and similar vicious, murderous animal gangs are the very reason why many of the Central American asylum seekers/migrants end up fleeing their own countries and trying to get to the US. And that underlying MS-13 problem is actually such a huge problem in Central America because of past US policies, coupled with local corrupt regimes. MS-13 didn't begin in El Salvador. It was created in Los Angeles in the early 1980s as part of Salvadoran refugees efforts to protect themselves from other gangs who were targeting them. It quickly spread to prisons and became one of the most violent gangs on the West Coast. Following the ending of local civil war in El Salvador, which had been fomented partly by US foreign policy, many of the most violent MS gang members were deported to El Salvador. By that time it was a broken, war-torn country and the newly introduced MS savages spread like lice. They rapidly spread across the US and Central America, to become the vicious, evil thugs of today.

So, whenever Trump and his propagandists characterise refugees fleeing Central America as murderers and rapists, remember that they are really fleeing from murderers and rapists, whose power and strength in Central America was made possible by the USA.

Within that context, it is truly great to see the US cleaning up its own mess that is MS-13. I wish it would also provide help and funds to those in Central America who are trying to fight MS-13 there, as part of its clean-up, as in "you broke it, so you fix it!"

Finally, threats to stop providing funds to support Central American countries unless they sort out illegal immigration in the US is a moronic policy which plays into the hands of MS-13 and the like.

Ahh the classic left retort ... lets play the victim card that always works ...

Theres a problem somewhere in the world, its the US fault , and lets stop any historical analysis at the point where the US get involved.

US cleaning up its own mess, hardly, South Americans have been fighting amongst themselves for 2500 years, next you will be blaming the US for the The War of the Two Brothers Huascar and Athualpa.

everlast75

Midlife wrote: »

Being honest however, I think you're here to have some shots at 'the left' as you perceive them to be

This is exactly what i began to see.

He doesn't seem to be a big fan of trump, other than to cite his grievance against the left.

It's clear that he is struggling to find anything positive about 45 other than the one thing he can relate to and will excuse everything else away on that basis.

It's almost like he's come here to have a go at the left first and to defend trump second.

spacecoyote

looksee wrote: »

You stated that he was the most popular person in the world. Most viewed wikipedia pages does not make him most popular - not in any normal interpretation of the word popular.

Yes, arguably Wikipedia is not exactly a benchmark for popularity (wouldn't be surprised if probably a large portion of those visitors were people looking to make snarky updates to his wiki page).

Maybe look at his favourite platform, Twitter, where he sits 12th in the most-followed ranks (arguably he has gained a large portion of that following purely based on being POTUS, as opposed to him personally. in April 2016 he had less than 7m followers):

1 - Katy Perry (107.6m)
2 - Barack Obama (106.7m)
3 - Justin Bieber (105.8m)
4 - Rihanna (91.6m)
5 - Taylor Swift (83.5m)
6 - Lady Gaga (78.8m)
7 - Ronaldo (78.4m)
8 - Ellen DeGeneres (77.9m)
9 - YouTube (71.6m)
10 - Justin Timberlake (65m)
11 - Ariana Grande (63.4m)
12 - Donald Trump (61.2m)

Or if you want to go with what appears to be the current most popular platform, Instagram, he's not in the top 30 (30th place is another man not exactly renowned for his treatment of women, Chris Brown with 49.4m followers, Trump has around 13.3m)

everlast75

spacecoyote wrote: »

Yes, arguably Wikipedia is not exactly a benchmark for popularity (wouldn't be surprised if probably a large portion of those visitors were people looking to make snarky updates to his wiki page).

Maybe look at his favourite platform, Twitter, where he sits 12th in the most-followed ranks (arguably he has gained a large portion of that following purely based on being POTUS, as opposed to him personally. in April 2016 he had less than 7m followers):

1 - Katy Perry (107.6m)
2 - Barack Obama (106.7m)
3 - Justin Bieber (105.8m)
4 - Rihanna (91.6m)
5 - Taylor Swift (83.5m)
6 - Lady Gaga (78.8m)
7 - Ronaldo (78.4m)
8 - Ellen DeGeneres (77.9m)
9 - YouTube (71.6m)
10 - Justin Timberlake (65m)
11 - Ariana Grande (63.4m)
12 - Donald Trump (61.2m)

Or if you want to go with what appears to be the current most popular platform, Instagram, he's not in the top 30 (30th place is another man not exactly renowned for his treatment of women, Chris Brown with 49.4m followers, Trump has around 13.3m)

I have a sneaking suspicion a lot of people follow him on Twitter because of the car crash tv type stuff that is posted, not because he is "liked".

Notoriety is not the same as popularity.

The guy has no friends. His 3rd wife can't stand to be near him. Donny Jr is on the record as saying he's an a hole. He treats people like dirt, even when they spend a good portion of their life debasing themselves to ingratiate them to him. He's cheated on all 3 of his wives, including having sex with a porn star while his 3rd wife was at home with their newborn. He is incredibly petty. Doesn't strike me as a person who people would like to be friends with.

Stallingrad

TomOnBoard wrote: »

I fully agree with that statement.

However, what is not acknowledged in the process is that MS-13 and similar vicious, murderous animal gangs are the very reason why many of the Central American asylum seekers/migrants end up fleeing their own countries and trying to get to the US. And that underlying MS-13 problem is actually such a huge problem in Central America because of past US policies, coupled with local corrupt regimes. MS-13 didn't begin in El Salvador. It was created in Los Angeles in the early 1980s as part of Salvadoran refugees efforts to protect themselves from other gangs who were targeting them. It quickly spread to prisons and became one of the most violent gangs on the West Coast. Following the ending of local civil war in El Salvador, which had been fomented partly by US foreign policy, many of the most violent MS gang members were deported to El Salvador. By that time it was a broken, war-torn country and the newly introduced MS savages spread like lice. They rapidly spread across the US and Central America, to become the vicious, evil thugs of today.

So, whenever Trump and his propagandists characterise refugees fleeing Central America as murderers and rapists, remember that they are really fleeing from murderers and rapists, whose power and strength in Central America was made possible by the USA.

Within that context, it is truly great to see the US cleaning up its own mess that is MS-13. I wish it would also provide help and funds to those in Central America who are trying to fight MS-13 there, as part of its clean-up, as in "you broke it, so you fix it!"

Finally, threats to stop providing funds to support Central American countries unless they sort out illegal immigration in the US is a moronic policy which plays into the hands of MS-13 and the like.

I'm with Rigolo, typical leftie retort. Responding with nuance, facts and historical context instead of soundbites and cut and paste. Feckin pinkos.

TomOnBoard

RIGOLO wrote: »

Ahh the classic left retort ... lets play the victim card that always works ...

Theres a problem somewhere in the world, its the US fault , and lets stop any historical analysis at the point where the US get involved.

US cleaning up its own mess, hardly, South Americans have been fighting amongst themselves for 2500 years, next you will be blaming the US for the The War of the Two Brothers Huascar and Athualpa.

Your post was about MS-13. My response was about MS-13 and it's origins, which massively implicates US policies and actions. The US, through a combination of funding and interference, helped to destroy an already fragile El Salvador. This created a refugee situation that ended up in the slums of LA where MS-13 was born. The poison of MS-13 was later exported by the US back into El Salvador through deportations of the most vicious MS-13 members.

So yes, any moves the US now makes to take MS-13 out is very much a case of cleaning up a mess that is largely of its own making. Ignoring those facts from very recent history by such attempted deflections as the rich 2,500 year history of South America and a war there in the 16th Century is disingenuous, although I suppose par for the course, sadly.

Oh, and by the way, you do know that El Salvador is in continental North America and not South America??

TomOnBoard

Stallingrad wrote: »

I'm with Rigolo, typical leftie retort. Responding with nuance, facts and historical context instead of soundbites and cut and paste. Feckin pinkos.

Yeah, how dare I present provable historical fact in support of an argument when there are so many alternative facts and nebulous smokescreens that I could choose from.

Professor Moriarty

everlast75 wrote: »

I have a sneaking suspicion a lot of people follow him on Twitter because of the car crash tv type stuff that is posted, not because he is "liked".

Notoriety is not the same as popularity.

The guy has no friends. His 3rd wife can't stand to be near him. Donny Jr is on the record as saying he's an a hole. He treats people like dirt, even when they spend a good portion of their life debasing themselves to ingratiate them to him. He's cheated on all 3 of his wives, including having sex with a porn star while his 3rd wife was at home with their newborn. He is incredibly petty. Doesn't strike me as a person who people would like to be friends with.

Allow me to correct you there. The Donald cheated on Stormy Daniels by having sex with Karen McDougal while he was cheating on Melania Trump by having sex with Stormy Daniels.

ancapailldorcha

Stallingrad wrote: »

I'm with Rigolo, typical leftie retort. Responding with nuance, facts and historical context instead of soundbites and cut and paste. Feckin pinkos.

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Yeah, how dare I present provable historical fact in support of an argument when there are so many alternative facts and nebulous smokescreens that I could choose from.

Enough of the snarky comments please.

And while we're at it, no more press-release style posts please. This is a forum for discussion which means the presentation of an argument in one's own words, not regurgitating press releases.

MrFresh

RIGOLO wrote: »

You mean like undo best employment rates for black people
undo a booming stock market
undo a booming jobs market
undo a massive shot in the arm to the military
undo investments in space exploration
undo rebalancing of Chinese trade
undo rebalancing of US - EU trade imbalance

is that the sort of damage your hoping the next president will undo ...

20,000 people queued up for a sell out campaign launch
Theres no sign anyone will be undoing anything for the next 6 years .
Trump , this administration is just getting warmed up .. Trump II will be even better.

Which of Trump's policies do you believe increased employment for black people?

Midlife

Just to note, the cited case has nothing to do with Trump and could possibly have nothing to do with MS-13.

Not that it's not horrific, just that attributing it's resolution to Trump is a bit of a stretch.

Outlaw Pete

MrFresh wrote: »

Which of Trump's policies do you believe increased employment for black people?

Well, the Opportunity Zone Incentives which promote investment in economically distressed communities for start but you may not have heard too much about them as anytime they were reported it was low level and largely negative (Washington Times suggesting Trump just wanted to get his inner circle rich the for example) and on the day of their launch the press just began shouting at him about Michael Cohen the moment he signed the order.

Here's a good report by Fox report (oh I know, an oxymoron around these parts) which shows precisely what happened on the day and to me just about sums up what the leftist media have been doing since Trump took office:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_PeZBT8g8U

RIGOLO

MrFresh wrote: »

Which of Trump's policies do you believe increased employment for black people?

A rising tide lifts all boats .

The Trump Administration is freiendly to ALL races when it comes to economic improvements.
The Trump administration targetted getting the American economy back on its feet , and employment rates for EVERYONE would improve.

Some specific measures targetting inner city communities , some Ive mentioned before , like the tax breaks on investment profits if they were re-invested in inner city.
Even recently HOWARD DEAN a DEMOCRAT , ex Govenor of VERMONT, a 2004 Democratic Presidential Candidate, and former DNC CHAIRMAN put it well when talking about the new USMCA - US-MEXICO-CANADA trade deal

“Or consider how USMCA would boost wages for workers in the auto industry, which supports over 7 million U.S. jobs. To receive duty-free treatment under USMCA, 75 percent of a vehicle’s value must originate in North America, up from the current 62.5 percent requirement under NAFTA. This change would create more jobs at auto-parts suppliers. USMCA also requires nearly half of all car parts to be made by workers earning at least $16 an hour. That provision would ensure American manufacturing workers earn strong wages.

So yeah its glaringly obvious, Trump Administration has taken many measures to ensure more and better paying jobs for EVERYONE in the US, race colour or creed . Small inroads here and there , a change here, a change there, but when combined they represent a huge change all moving to the same goal making the US economy stronger .

Im sure someone will come along and say it was Obamas economy .. did Obama negotiate the USMCA , with improved wages and more manufacturing in the US, I must have missed that during the main stream media blanket Mueller coverage.

It seems the left has forgotten the Obama administration and their famous mantra 2% growth will be the new norm, we wont see 3% again .
DT gets 4 quarters at 3% and people still havent a clue what how he did it .
I wonder would that be becasue hte main stream media were feeding them RUSSIAFOREVA for the last 2 years...

ECO_Mental

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Well, the Opportunity Zone Incentives which promote investment in economically distressed communities for start but you may not have heard too much about them as anytime they were reported it was low level and largely negative (Washington Times suggesting Trump just wanted to get his inner circle rich the for example) and on the day of their launch the press just began shouting at him about Michael Cohen the moment he signed the order.

Here's a good report by Fox report (oh I know, an oxymoron around these parts) which shows precisely what happened on the day and to me just about sums up what the leftist media have been doing since Trump took office:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_PeZBT8g8U

This is nothing new here (Regan Clinton etc had them) .... listen to the Trump Inc Podcast about all this and how its just another vehicle for the super wealthy just not to pay Tax. Kushners are developing high class apartments in not so poor zones under these "zones"



https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/trump-inc-opportunity-for-rich

RIGOLO

RIGOLO wrote: »

It seems the left has forgotten the Obama administration and their famous mantra 2% growth will be the new norm, we wont see 3% again .
DT gets 4 quarters at 3% and people still havent a clue what how he did it .
I wonder would that be becasue hte main stream media were feeding them RUSSIAFOREVA for the last 2 years...

Pretty sure we all know how he did it; ballooning the deficit and the national debt. Remember the deficit? That thing Republicans wanted to eliminate all the time Obama was in?

RIGOLO

ECO_Mental wrote: »

This is nothing new here (Regan Clinton etc had them) .... listen to the Trump Inc Podcast about all this and how its just another vehicle for the super wealthy just not to pay Tax. Kushners are developing high class apartments in not so poor zones under these "zones"



https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/trump-inc-opportunity-for-rich

Building high rise apartments in an impoverished area.. is that not a good thing, bring high net value occupants to spend money in an area, possibly lifting it out of a cycle of crime, drugs,

Do you object to all such developments.
Dublin Ireland has had alot of them in recent years I hear, do you object to Irish investors bringing high class apartments to inner city Dublin areas ?
Do you object to the transformation that many London boroughs saw as part of the same 'gentrification' for want of a better word.

Or do you only object to such developments when they are connected to the Trump administration ?
I suppose you object to the transformation Donald Trump made of drug and porn addled areas of NY City in the 80s.

That seems to be a new liberal left policy.
AOC objects to AMazon bringing billions to here inner city area, and now anti-Trumpers object to investment in inner city US communities..

obviously such 'gentrification' has to be managed, we are all well aware of how Silicon Valley explosive gentrification of areas on California has led directly to their massive homeless crisis.

So lots to discuss there, but again anti-Trumpers seem to have one viewpoint , any investment (if connected DT ) in inner city is bad. Just dont mention the investment by our new masters of the universe FB,GGLE etc in the same conversation.

RIGOLO

Deleted User wrote: »

Pretty sure we all know how he did it; ballooning the deficit and the national debt. Remember the deficit? That thing Republicans wanted to eliminate all the time Obama was in?

Sure I remember the deficit and the national debt .

How could I forget how Obama nearly DOUBLED IT , adding almost 9 TRILLION .
9 TRILLION ADDED BY OBAMA TO THE NATIONAL DEBT ...
And he had Fed rates at near 0% for 8 years .

Yep one can never forget that failure , as well as his classic comments of 2% growth being the new norm, even when his adminstration didnt even manage that and was more like 1.6% growth for his term.

Donald Trump rolls into town and 3% is the new norm, 3% on an expanding economy , yep thats another thing that wont be forgotten.

Discretionary expenditure, something Trump administration is on record as saying they want to tackle, but ask the Dems they control Congress and keep signing off on the huge budgets .

Leroy42

So Obama adding to the national debt whilst the country is in the midst of trying to recover from a GOP lead recession is terrible, but Trump increasing the debt at a time when, not only did he promise to reduce it, but at a time when the economy is growing and as such there should be a surplus in which to deal with it is great?

Either you think debt matters or it doesn't. If it doesn't, which given your position on Trump it would seem to imply, then I fail to see how you think Obama was wrong to 'invest' in debt when he was POTUS.

Stop moaning ffs

RIGOLO wrote: »

A rising tide lifts all boats .

The Trump Administration is freiendly to ALL races when it comes to economic improvements.
The Trump administration targetted getting the American economy back on its feet , and employment rates for EVERYONE would improve.

Some specific measures targetting inner city communities , some Ive mentioned before , like the tax breaks on investment profits if they were re-invested in inner city.
Even recently HOWARD DEAN a DEMOCRAT , ex Govenor of VERMONT, a 2004 Democratic Presidential Candidate, and former DNC CHAIRMAN put it well when talking about the new USMCA - US-MEXICO-CANADA trade deal



So yeah its glaringly obvious, Trump Administration has taken many measures to ensure more and better paying jobs for EVERYONE in the US, race colour or creed . Small inroads here and there , a change here, a change there, but when combined they represent a huge change all moving to the same goal making the US economy stronger .

Im sure someone will come along and say it was Obamas economy .. did Obama negotiate the USMCA , with improved wages and more manufacturing in the US, I must have missed that during the main stream media blanket Mueller coverage.

It seems the left has forgotten the Obama administration and their famous mantra 2% growth will be the new norm, we wont see 3% again .
DT gets 4 quarters at 3% and people still havent a clue what how he did it .
I wonder would that be becasue hte main stream media were feeding them RUSSIAFOREVA for the last 2 years...

He called for the Central Park five to be given the death sentence. After they had been exonerated. They were young boys. But their main crime was to be black.
But by all means continue with the nonsense.

Stop moaning ffs

RIGOLO wrote: »

Building high rise apartments in an impoverished area.. is that not a good thing, bring high net value occupants to spend money in an area, possibly lifting it out of a cycle of crime, drugs,

Do you object to all such developments.
Dublin Ireland has had alot of them in recent years I hear, do you object to Irish investors bringing high class apartments to inner city Dublin areas ?
Do you object to the transformation that many London boroughs saw as part of the same 'gentrification' for want of a better word.

Or do you only object to such developments when they are connected to the Trump administration ?
I suppose you object to the transformation Donald Trump made of drug and porn addled areas of NY City in the 80s.

That seems to be a new liberal left policy.
AOC objects to AMazon bringing billions to here inner city area, and now anti-Trumpers object to investment in inner city US communities..

obviously such 'gentrification' has to be managed, we are all well aware of how Silicon Valley explosive gentrification of areas on California has led directly to their massive homeless crisis.

So lots to discuss there, but again anti-Trumpers seem to have one viewpoint , any investment (if connected DT ) in inner city is bad. Just dont mention the investment by our new masters of the universe FB,GGLE etc in the same conversation.

There are no high rise apartments either public or privately owned in Dublin.

You are again talking absolute nonsense.

hill16bhoy

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

He called for the Central Park five to be given the death sentence. After they had been exonerated. They were young boys. But their main crime was to be black.
But by all means continue with the nonsense.

That's the wet dream of a lot of Trump's supporters.

Infowars called for Obama to be lynched the other day.

RIGOLO

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

There are no high rise apartments either public or privately owned in Dublin.

You are again talking absolute nonsense.

DUBLIN LIVE SEEMS TO THIN THEIR ARE..
and if you walk down Tara Street and look up .. you might want to reconsider whos talking nonsense ..

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/luxury-dublin-apartment-block-capital-15477463

A luxury high-rise apartment block that’s set to have the capitals highest rents has been damaged due to flooding.
The 190 apartment Capital Dock tower is Irelands tallest residential building block and is 22 storeys tall.

AS Ive said previously , before you accuse someone of talking ****e, you should be 100% sure of your facts.

So did the same people object to Johnny Ronan TARA STREET HIGH RISE APARTMENT Development or do they only object when a Trump associate is bring business to a US inner city ...

duploelabs

RIGOLO wrote: »

DUBLIN LIVE SEEMS TO THIN THEIR ARE..
and if you walk down Tara Street and look up .. you might want to reconsider whos talking nonsense ..





AS Ive said previously , before you accuse someone of talking ****e, you should be 100% sure of your facts.

So did the same people object to Johnny Ronan TARA STREET HIGH RISE APARTMENT Development or do they only object when a Trump associate is bring business to a US inner city ...

Even if that link did work, that building hasn't been given planning permission

RIGOLO

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

He called for the Central Park five to be given the death sentence. After they had been exonerated. They were young boys. But their main crime was to be black.
But by all means continue with the nonsense.

yes indeed he did call , and as someone who was in NY in the late 80s let me put some of this in context for you about NY in the 80s when Trump said those things in an op-ed

There were over 2000 murders in NY in 1989.

In 1990 the murder peaked at over 2400 murders in one year.

The SAME day as the assault in Central Park discussed above, a woman in Brooklyn was taken by 3 men to the top of a four storey building, raped and sodomised and then given the fast way down, not by stairs and not by elevator but thrown off the side of a 4 storey building to the street below.

People should keep that in mind, when reading Trumps op-ed from 1989.

If you still think what he said was out of order thats your perogative.

Personally i think he hit the nail on the head with what he wrote AT THE TIME.
Some of the stuff going on in NY in eh late 80s was animalistic , somethign needed to be said and done.

Same as his comments about London epidemic knife crime ,

Sadiq Khan seems to think the important thing is to assign officers to investigating online hate comments, meanwhile teenagers are bleeding to death on the streets of london every day, if they are lucky they might just have an acid attack and be scarred for life, the unlucky ones are being dis-embowled.

VicMackey1

Looks like Google will be working against Trump for the 2020 election!

Quote from Jen Gennai, Head of Responsible Innovation, Google

"Elizabeth Warren is saying that we should break up Google. And like, I love her but she's very misguided, like that will not make it better, it will make it worse, because now all these smaller companies who don't have the same resources that we do will be charged with preventing the next Trump situation, its like a small company cannot do that."

RIGOLO

duploelabs wrote: »

Even if that link did work, that building hasn't been given planning permission

I posted a link to CAPITAL DOCK .

https://www.capitaldock.ie/

not only does it have planning permission its already FINSIHED

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/kennedy-wilson-announces-completion-of-capital-dock-1.3703076


Like I said you should check your facts before making accusations

RIGOLO

VicMackey1 wrote: »

Looks like Google will be working against Trump for the 2020 election!

Quote from Jen Gennai, Head of Responsible Innovation, Google

"Elizabeth Warren is saying that we should break up Google. And like, I love her but she's very misguided, like that will not make it better, it will make it worse, because now all these smaller companies who don't have the same resources that we do will be charged with preventing the next Trump situation, its like a small company cannot do that."

So wheres the outrage from the left .

Oh hang on theres is none because she has aligned herself with stopping Trump so it must all good.

in the meantime she has changed her title from
Jen Gennai, Head of Responsible Innovation, Google to
Jen Gennai, Head of US Electoral Administration Google

Leroy42

RIGOLO wrote: »

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

He called for the Central Park five to be given the death sentence. After they had been exonerated. They were young boys. But their main crime was to be black.
But by all means continue with the nonsense.

yes indeed he did call , and as someone who was in NY in the late 80s let me put some of this in context for you about NY in the 80s when Trump said those things in an op-ed

There were over 2000 murders in NY in 1989.

In 1990 the murder peaked at over 2400 murders in one year.

The SAME day as the assault in Central Park discussed above, a woman in Brooklyn was taken by 3 men to the top of a four storey building, raped and sodomised and then given the fast way down, not by stairs and not by elevator but thrown off the side of a 4 storey building to the street below.

People should keep that in mind, when reading Trumps op-ed from 1989.

If you still think what he said was out of order thats your perogative.

Personally i think he hit the nail on the head with what he wrote AT THE TIME.
Some of the stuff going on in NY in eh late 80s was animalistic , somethign needed to be said and done.

Same as his comments about London epidemic knife crime ,

Sadiq Khan seems to think the important thing is to assign officers to investigating online hate comments, meanwhile teenagers are bleeding to death on the streets of london every day, if they are lucky they might just have an acid attack and be scarred for life, the unlucky ones are being dis-embowled.

Right, so it doesn't matter that he was wrong, he was scared and frustrated is enough of an excuse for you.

Do you take the same view of illegal immigrants who are scared and frustrated just want to get a better life?

B0jangles

Leroy42 wrote: »

Right, so it doesn't matter that he was wrong, he was scared and frustrated is enough of an excuse for you.

Do you take the same view of illegal immigrants who are scared and frustrated just want to get a better life?

Trump STILL won't admit he was wrong about the Central Park 5.

He called for them to be executed remember? They were cleared of the charges via both DNA evidence AND a confession by the real culprit. There is no doubt that they were absolutely innocent

Trump knows all of this and he still will not admit that he was wrong. Because he is apparently incapable of admitting to being wrong about anything.

He's mentally unfit to run an icecream stand, let alone a country.