Garda shoots dog in Longford

BBFAN

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The 9th post on this thread shows the edited video from Mrs Speilberg have a look.

The edited video that you state is edited is now the gospel?

tuxy

BBFAN wrote: »

The edited video that you state is edited is now the gospel?

The edited clip is all we have for now until the crystal clear TV3 video is posted.

archer22

tuxy wrote: »

I will when you post the link as I can't find it.

Well how the hell am I supposed to find it then!....watch their news later it will likely be shown again.

thecomedian

BBFAN wrote: »

For shooting the dog yes of course, who else is to blame?

You didn’t understand my post.
The dog got shot because it was a threat, simple as that.
I’m amazed at the lack of respect shown to an arm guard/detective.
No other county would put up with that. Best outcome was shooting the dog.

Infini

thecomedian wrote: »

Just imagine grabbing an armed police in a different country.

They would be lucky to be alive after it!

Probably would have had a better ending too: Traveller shot for attacking a Gardai, Dog arrested.

Yer Da sells Avon

SuperS54 wrote: »

Find it strange that a Garda would not use a clip on tie, there wouldn't have been a problem, other than the loss of a tie, if he had.

They're a cunt to put on, in fairness. And you usually need to have your top button closed for them to stay on, so it feels like you're getting strangled regardless.

tuxy

archer22 wrote: »

Well how the hell am I supposed to find it then!....watch their news later it will likely be shown again.

If they broadcast live to the internet I'll have a look and if not does anyone know if the old coat hangar trick works with the new digital system, I think my tv has a decoder for it. Also what time?

tuxy

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

They're a cunt to put on, in fairness. And you usually need to have your top button closed for them to stay on, so it feels like you're getting strangled regardless.

If the super saw him with a clip on tie it would make the traveller situation look like a walk in the park.

archer22

tuxy wrote: »

If they broadcast live to the internet I'll have a look and if not does anyone know if the old coat hangar trick works with the new digital system, I think my tv has a decoder for it. Also what time?

Just remembered TV3 had a recent name change..its now called "Virgin 1" their other channel is now called "Virgin 2"

Its usually the same news broadcast

Panch18

BBFAN wrote: »

Almost everyone on here has stated that you can't hear or see the dog on the video yet at the same time later saying the dog must have been savaging the Gardaí for him to shoot. Now which one is it? Seriously? Nail your hammer to the mast.

Facts are that 1. A dog is dead 2. 1 shot was fired.

So either the dog was a dumb dog who was savaging the Garda without a sound or he shot the dog out of spite because he knew he'd get in serious **** for shooting a person?

Whatever the case maybe, from the very beginning he looks like an absolute loolaa. He's not there in an official capacity. He's simply trying to act the big man to help his mate and it quite literally backfired on him.

I've no sympathy for anyone in this scenario except the dog. The travellers were obviously acting the dick, the person who had gone to get their car repaired from travellers was an idiot to deal with them and the Garda was a macho gob****e trying to act it to impress his mate.

Where is the Garda’s mate that you are referring to above?

BBFAN

thecomedian wrote: »

You didn’t understand my post.
The dog got shot because it was a threat, simple as that.
I’m amazed at the lack of respect shown to an arm guard/detective.
No other county would put up with that. Best outcome was shooting the dog.

No other county? Like Dublin?

You're amazed at the lack of respect shown to someone who wasn't there in a official capacity? Why?

BBFAN

Answer me this all the "shoot em all dead" crew. Why should an off duty guard have any more respect than an ordinary joe?

BBFAN

Panch18 wrote: »

Where is the Garda’s mate that you are referring to above?

The coward sitting in the van who didn't back up his Garda friend in any way.

Water John

I know a number of Guards, but I wouldn't use their first names if they were at work. I would call them, Guard.

pablo128

BBFAN wrote: »

Answer me this all the "shoot em all dead" crew. Why should an off duty guard have any more respect than an ordinary joe?

Why couldn't the travellers let the man in the van go and pursue him for the outstanding bill through the courts?

BBFAN

So has anyone got an answer as to why this savage killer dog is so silent?

A silent but deadly?

Panch18

mea_k wrote: »

I would shoot the dog too if he was threat to mine and others safety. Dog was not letting go of him. Dog was protecting owner and essentially became weapon used against garda. Any normal person would have done the same.

It’s a bloody dog for Christ sake. You’d swear he’d shot an innocent old lady or something the way people are going on about the bloody dog

BBFAN

pablo128 wrote: »

Why couldn't the travellers let the man in the van go and pursue him for the outstanding bill through the courts?

No it doesn't work that way. You answer my question first and then I'll answer yours.

tuxy

archer22 wrote: »

Just remembered TV3 had a recent name change..its now called "Virgin 1" their other channel is now called "Virgin 2"

Its usually the same news broadcast

Ah so that's why I couldn't find their website, thanks.

Since you have seen the clip from further back, can you tell us what was holding his tie?

BBFAN

Water John wrote: »

I know a number of Guards, but I wouldn't use their first names if they were at work. I would call them, Guard.

Except this man wasn't at work as far as we know? And if you genuinely refer to your friends as Guard then you need to look at yourself.

BBFAN

Panch18 wrote: »

It’s a bloody dog for Christ sake. You’d swear he’d shot an innocent old lady or something the way people are going on about the bloody dog

You've obviously never owned a dog.

Water John

Have you not come across stealth dogs? They are the silent ones that attack without warning, some bulls do the same, no warning.
Yes, I have owned dogs but we are becoming nearly like the English and valuing a dogs life higher than a human's.

Panch18

BBFAN wrote: »

The coward sitting in the van who didn't back up his Garda friend in any way.

Do you have any support to prove th Guard and van driver were friends??

Panch18

BBFAN wrote: »

Answer me this all the "shoot em all dead" crew. Why should an off duty guard have any more respect than an ordinary joe?

Who says the guard was off duty??

archer22

tuxy wrote: »

Ah so that's why I couldn't find their website, thanks.

Since you have seen the clip from further back, can you tell us what was holding his tie?

I don't have a bloody clue what was holding his tie...there was nothing holding his tie when he fired or even near his goddamn tie!

Panch18

BBFAN wrote: »

You've obviously never owned a dog.

Owned plenty

It’s a dog

BBFAN

You know what's gas? If you search Garda shot dog and Virgin Media you get a story about a man being sought by Gardaí for shooting a dog and horse.

And of course that man is a scumbag?

alias no.9

BBFAN wrote: »

Answer me this all the "shoot em all dead" crew. Why should an off duty guard have any more respect than an ordinary joe?

Garda powers are not in any way restricted to their roster. If they happen upon a crime, they have full authority to intervene. That said, why do you assume he was off duty?

tuxy

archer22 wrote: »

I don't have a bloody clue what was holding his tie...there was nothing holding his tie when he fired or even near his goddamn tie!

So the youtube clip from post 9 is a completely different incident? Because his tie is streached tight, you can even see it in the still i posted.

This is starting to get very strange and confusing.

BBFAN

Water John wrote: »

Have you not come across stealth dogs? They are the silent ones that attack without warning, some bulls do the same, no warning.
Yes, I have owned dogs but we are becoming nearly like the English and valuing a dogs life higher than a human's.

Ah stop, now you're making me piss myself. Stealth dog? No I've never come across them but I'm quite sure if they exist they are not reared by travellers.

Plumbthedepths

BBFAN wrote:

The edited video that you state is edited is now the gospel?

You have to wonder why Mrs Speilberg edited it.

Signore Fancy Pants

LOL

BBFAN has lost the plot.

Water John

The Guard's tie is held firmly when the shot is fired, Stop reinventing the facts. If I thought a dog was a threat to me I would use whatever force was needed to remove the threat.

archer22

tuxy wrote: »

So the youtube clip from post 9 is a completely different incident? Because his tie is streached tight, you can even see it in the still i posted.

This is starting to get very strange and confusing.

Yep the Virgin news clip shows the actual shooting...I do not see that on clip on first page

BBFAN

Panch18 wrote: »

Do you have any support to prove th Guard and van driver were friends??

Nope, no more than the people who claim the traveller had a slash hook have support.

But I do know he wouldn't have been risking his life and career for someone he didn't know. That is definitely a fact.

Plumbthedepths

BBFAN wrote:

Answer me this all the "shoot em all dead" crew. Why should an off duty guard have any more respect than an ordinary joe?

Was he off duty? As to the respect thing it's just common sense not to set your dog on an armed individual and hope nothing happens to your dag.

Plumbthedepths

BBFAN wrote:

So has anyone got an answer as to why this savage killer dog is so silent?

It's mouth was full of the guard's tie prehaps , what's your explanation?

BBFAN

tuxy wrote: »

So the youtube clip from post 9 is a completely different incident? Because his tie is streached tight, you can even see it in the still i posted.

This is starting to get very strange and confusing.

You're still not answering the question.

If so many people in this thread claim that the youtube clip from post 9 was very strongly edited how can they then claim it's gospel?

Water John

Then go back and watch the video on page 1 again.

Plumbthedepths

#jesuisalsatian.... or #jesuistoby....

BBFAN

Señor Santa Pants wrote: »

LOL

BBFAN has lost the plot.

In what way? Please back up your post.

Panch18

BBFAN wrote: »

Nope, no more than the people who claim the traveller had a slash hook have support.

But I do know he wouldn't have been risking his life and career for someone he didn't know. That is definitely a fact.

No it’s not a definite fact, only in your head is it a fact

BBFAN

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You have to wonder why Mrs Speilberg edited it.

So you admit she edited it? So we can't take that as gospel so?

BBFAN

Panch18 wrote: »

No it’s not a definite fact, only in your head is it a fact

So you think that an off duty detective would stop and get involved in this situation if he didn't have some motive?

Bless that you're that naïve.

tayto lover

BBFAN wrote: »

So you think that an off duty detective would stop and get involved in this situation if he didn't have some motive?

Bless that you're that naïve.

You were asked for proof that the detective was off duty.

tuxy

archer22 wrote: »

Yep the Virgin news clip shows the actual shooting...I do not see that on clip on first page

The one from post 9 has the incident but the gun is slightly out of frame as it goes of. Is youtube not working for you? You can see it as the top result if you type "garda shoots traveller" on youtube. It seems to be much longer and has the dialogue where the garda says "get him to let go of me"

Plumbthedepths

BBFAN wrote:

So you admit she edited it? So we can't take that as gospel so?

A blind man can see it's edited but the guard can be clearly heard saying "get him to let go" also "watch him Toby" can be heard before the shot is fired as for take as gospel wtf are you on about?

Signore Fancy Pants

BBFAN wrote: »

So you think that an off duty detective would stop and get involved in this situation if he didn't have some motive?

Bless that you're that naïve.

What was the Detectives motive?

alias no.9

BBFAN wrote: »

So you think that an off duty detective would stop and get involved in this situation if he didn't have some motive?

Bless that you're that naïve.

Again, why do you assume he's off duty?

banie01

BBFAN wrote: »

It has reported on every single source of media that a dog was killed and yet you still don't believe it? Bias much?

Read what I posted and try again