The Umbrella Academy [Netflix] [**SPOILERS**]

brevity

They’ll be fine. Loads of his co-starts left messages of support and it’s probably something that has been mentioned in private.

With a show like Umbrella Academy I doubt it will be an issue.

pjohnson

Was S3 not starting production already? Thought I saw an update on twitter it had.

If S3 is already wrote I cant see it being rewrote?

Basq

pjohnson wrote: »

Was S3 not starting production already? Thought I saw an update on twitter it had.

If S3 is already wrote I cant see it being rewrote?

Think it was just commissioned lately.. so I'd say writing may be not too far along.

pjohnson

Basq wrote: »

Think it was just commissioned lately.. so I'd say writing may be not too far along.

Ah whoops my bad then. It likely wont be much of an issue I guess. Possibly a bit jarring to include in so far as its not actually been hinted at for Vanya before but with enough time Way can authentically include it.

ixoy

Just after finishing the second season which we really enjoyed. Characters were more tightly written and the plot gelled better. Seems like the writers had a good bit of fun in it, with some strong comedy moments.

As to Ellen Page's news - honestly, this is the perfect show to work this into the plot line and will go nicely with the theme of family for the new season of 'The Sparrow Academy'.

ixoy

ixoy wrote: »

As to Ellen Page's news -

blooming?

Edit... couldn't have been more wrong.

blue note

Why would this affect the character? What difference does it make whether it's Ellen or elliot pretending to be vanya?

ixoy

blue note wrote: »

Why would this affect the character? What difference does it make whether it's Ellen or elliot pretending to be vanya?

I would imagine that Elliot Page would feel quite strongly about the issue and look to see it represented on the screen in some form and it's something the writers and show runners could well agree too. But yes, it may not come up at all - we don't know yet.

Brief_Lives

I just did a quick google, apparently she will continue to play Vanya..

https://www.cbr.com/netflix-umbrella-academy-elliot-page-vanya/

thankfully, he's a great actor..

Bandana boy

Wonder if the extra 22% they will have to pay him now have an impact on the financial viability of the show

sydthebeat

Bandana boy wrote: »

Wonder if the extra 22% they will have to pay him now have an impact on the financial viability of the show

Lol

flazio

The question now is will Elliot be undergoing any hormone treatment and/or surgery which will have an impact on how Vanya will look and sound next season.

CastorTroy

Cast and character details for the new group in season 3
https://tvline.com/2021/01/11/the-umbrella-academy-season-3-sparrows-casting/

cdgalwegian

ixoy wrote: »

Just after finishing the second season which we really enjoyed. Characters were more tightly written and the plot gelled better. Seems like the writers had a good bit of fun in it, with some strong comedy moments.

Yeah, great story, well told with lots of fun, but with plenty of intrigue, danger and the right dose of violence.

pixelburp

Filming for Season 3 has wrapped BTW; one of those "just before CoVid" shows I had completely forgotten about 'til I read the news today. I wonder will Vanya's character reflect Elliot Page's transition.

Agent Coulson

Season 3 sometime in 2022.

https://twitter.com/UmbrellaAcad/status/1443994728517799945?s=20

Need a Username

I was going to start watching this watching this.

Is there a season 3 on the way?

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118406098#Comment_118406098

Coulson answered that 3 minutes before you asked 😆

Need a Username

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118406384#Comment_118406384

Thanks.

I was worried about spoilers so just ent straight to the text box.

Strange coincidence

JP Liz V1

Javon Walton is joining

EoinMcLovin

https://twitter.com/UmbrellaAcad/status/1503050205326942211?t=ype37wHDUPwxeB8JG8_VtA&s=19

CastorTroy

For anyone wondering what's happening with Vanya since she's played by Elliot Page

https://tvline.com/2022/03/29/the-umbrella-academy-elliot-page-viktor-season-3-vanya/

EoinMcLovin

https://youtu.be/hs6alRuY1UU

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pixelburp

Looking forward to it; season 2 was a better run so hopefully they keep up the pace.

Slydice

All 10 Episodes Dropping Tomorrow...

B.A._Baracus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119232698#Comment_119232698

Sweet.

EoinMcLovin

https://youtu.be/YCz6KCFgsiI

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CastorTroy

Hmm, turns out I forgot a lot of season 2.

pixelburp

Season 3 dropped today.

Penn

Man I really should have rewatched season 2. Watched the first 3 episodes yesterday and had to pause a few times and Google who some of the supporting characters were as I wasn't sure if I was supposed to know who they were or if they were new characters.

Edit: Yeah, I should have watched that recap video a few posts up. Would recommend for anyone about to jump in to the new season.

Slydice

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238722#Comment_119238722

We thank you for this sacrifice! 😁

Thecageyone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118853970#Comment_118853970

I thought it was complete cringe how they did the 'transformation' tbh, Page is an actor, paid to adapt to whatever the role demands - really don't like that they changed a whole character just to suit an actor's personal life. Vanya wasn't Ellen, Viktor won't be Eliot, this is not his personal pedestal, it's a fictional character in a fantasy series ffs .... nothing againt his personal story whatsoever, I think it's great that he's found happiness - but keep it off screen

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119248195#Comment_119248195

I thought it was handled really well. I liked how it was actually dealt with pretty quickly, everyone accepted it, and they all just moved on from it. I also think there would have been something of an unnecessary cruelty in making Page who comes out as a trans man (undergoing transition surgeries and likely medications (testosterone etc) and someone who has expressed how happy that they can finally be who they are), have to dress and look like a woman and be referred to as a woman throughout filming. And for what? Aside from those first few episodes where they deal with Vanya becoming Viktor, it makes no difference after that as the core of the character is the exact same. So why not use the transition as part of the story?

Thecageyone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119248259#Comment_119248259

I think if they had cast another similar actress viewers would have got over it just as quick tbh, I just don't think any actor should be bigger than the series. I see your point though, and it's not bothering me enough to stop watching [just past ep-2] - Vanya wasn't even close to being one of my favorites either way [Klaus and #5 being the most entertaining for me]

Overall I'm not sure what to make of this season yet, I'm not drawn to any of the new characters and my pea-brain is confused as to wtf is going on half the time lol

TheValeyard

Did the budget get cut? The rooftop workout scene seemed terrible CGI

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119250199#Comment_119250199

Wouldn't say it was cut but Covid precautions and testing probably ate into the budget more than what was expected.

Slydice

3.1: Quality resuming from the end of season two and introducing the new characters, changes and what looks to be a bigger story.

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I'm guessing the big story is this ball of energy in the basement. If I was guessing it's a "merge the two timelines" ball or something like that.. so either it's gonna start wiping people out or maybe destroy everything. Wierd though.. I'd have assumed it would be something Five would know about.

I'm also guessing this Dude on the Bus.. Cylon Number Two from Battlestar Gallactica to give him (Callum Keith Rennie) a number 🙂.. might be Harlan Cooper .. the boy from season two. I wonder are the bags of numbered sandwiches for each day he travels or if he's supposed to give them to the Umbrellas.

Funniest moment had to be Diegos face when he saw his son! 😁

The only fault I noticed was in the computer effects each time

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Marcus was doing his push ups on top of the building. The first time.. the effects looked dodgy on his backflip and landing. Only his face didn't look computery. The second time with Vanya down in the crowd... the whole crowd was obviously computer generated. There were easy to spot copy and pastes of the same people.. and like sometimes right beside each other

I was 25 mins in before I remembered @Penn's warning about needing a recap.

That recap posted earlier is really good. It's direct, to the point and fits 2 seasons into about 10 mins:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119232771#Comment_119232771

I totally forgot the father wasn't human.

Slydice

3.2: Hold on just one second. Is it really clear that..

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all the mothers died.. I'm wondering if Luther and Sloan might be from the same mother. Maybe not. Feels like something this show might pull on Luther though. Especially this early on.

Aside from that.. sure enough, looks like this energy orb is doing some kind of wiping out.. just not sure how much. After five called it a grandfather paradox, I'm leaning towards all things currently in existence getting wiped.

Slydice

3.3: Ah! I knew it! Awe this show is just SO bingeable!

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That was Harlan! One of the scenes had him surrounded by ice on the fire escape .. I wonder if he had anything to do with the Time Comission ice age.

Also the orb and paradox progressing..

Good to see Allison use her rumour power during the battle but it's wierd she didn't try use it more than just that one time earlier.

Stanley with the molotov was hilarious!

This whole Sloane / Luther thing feels very setup for something... something.. the idea of them being from the same mother is still in my mind.

FortuneChip

The show's never been perfect. I'd think it's been riddled with issues, but it's always been an enjoyable show.

S3 nailed what the show does well, but it's weaknesses were really amplified too.

Some really big plot contrivances, whereby a level-headed conversation could have resolved so many issues, or at least enabled some focus on what needed to be done, it just felt for the sake of it. The Sparrows were completely undeveloped, and ultimately inconsequential.

It's like the finish line was set-up, and regardless of the conflicts that became apparent throughout the show, we were always heading for that same conclusion.

Some individual journeys were interesting.

I think Klaus had some great developments, but the full implications of it were never fully realised.

I really like Diego, but his story again was a bit meh, there was a weird bait and switch between himself, Lila and Stan, but it was plainly contrived, and even addressed as such after the first visit to Oblivion.

Allison & Viktor's relationship is probably one of the main driver's of the season, and while it influenced the surrounding relationships, it didn't really impact the biggest decisions that were made.

Luthor provides the best heart, he's just good fun to watch, but towards the end of the season, I felt it wear a bit thin.

Five is still probably the MVP.

Also, and this happens in Stranger Things too, but I never understand why when a character expresses something bizarre happening that everyone is so skeptical of them, as if it's daft. Given the universe on display, you'd think it would warrant listening to them for a bit more info.

Anyway, enjoyable season from a character POV, but plotwise felt it was a bit false, and the finale was very underwhelming.

I'll still tune in for S4, but not looking forward to that standard trope that every "special powers" show feels they need to implement after running for a few seasons...

Slydice

3.4: Oh!

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Klaus! is dead?!!

Feels like story then is gonna have to wrap around back to the past to have Viktor be there with Sissy and Harlan

JP Liz V1

https://youtu.be/i2lpV4uopr4

Cut Loose 😆

retalivity

Just finished it e10....ive a load of questions but my heads a bit melted!

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OK, so I guess that the deal Alison cut with Reggie was to get her kid, and 60s husband back, in the case of a Universe reset? And I guess that maybe here 'killing' of him was part of the plan?

Did I miss something in the earlier seasons about Reggie's wife/gf/woman on the moon? I cant remember.

I guess that there is no Sloane, as the universe was reset to how it was for the umbrella academy, so the sparrows never existed, and they are now normal people with no powers. Ben is there as he was in the umbrella academy, but because he came back through the elevator with the rest, he is asshole Ben, not the Ben the umbrellas knew before he died.

So does that mean that Sloane never existed, or she was born and just wasn't one of the kids reggie picked up, so is back in her normal life, and hasnt a clue who Luther is.

But then Ben2 appears on the subway in Korea at the end....so there are now 2 Ben's???

CastorTroy

Overall a decent season.

But I have to ask, what was with the frequent black lens surround type effect? Or was it just me?

I know he's always been short, but Viktor just looked like a young boy in this. As Vanya he looked older. Now he looks younger than Five.

Was trying to figure out who she reminded me of, but When Allison cut her hair, I realised it was Jessica Parker Kennedy she reminded me of.

CastorTroy

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Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119269571#Comment_119269571

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I don't think Alison killing Reggie was part of the plan, but she ultimately knew she had to press the button and hope Reggie had set it up to keep his end of the deal in place. But I'm guessing that there may be consequences to it, like he wasn't finished setting it up so there'll now be problems in the new universe.

I presume Sloane was still born, or at least a version of her. It remains to be seen if the event that caused them all to be born with their mother's becoming instantly pregnant still happened or if they were now born a different way. The scene of Ben on the train at the end I think was the same train we saw his mother give birth in, which may be hinting there are now two Bens.

Slydice

3.5: Ooooh mysteries!

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Alt-Pogo! .. But! does this Pogo have some special time powers or equipment or something?

Just what is that think behind the wall in the room with the white buffalo head?

What exactly did Grace see inside the kugelblitz?

Pretty well done ending for a want-to-see-the-next-episode feel to it!

CastorTroy

Have to question

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American drivers after this. I mean how many knocked Klaus down, even when he stood waiting for them, on a straight stretch of road yet seems no one stopped or slowed down.

How the feck does Allison get a happy ending.

Rapey, murderer, manipulation, betrayal, abuse, and assault.

Busi_Girl08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119295672#Comment_119295672

Looks like she could be the big bad for next season