And the winner of dreamer of the year is... Part 2!

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twin_beacon wrote: »

Am I missing something? I thought the MK1 Golfs stopped being made in the mid 80s? That car has a 91 reg?

The mk1 shape was still being built in South Africa, RHD, until recently, maybe 4/5 years ago at a guess.
I saw an imoorted one in a car park, a few years back, i can't remember what year it was but it something like 2010ish.
Pretty much the whole exterior looked like an 80s car but the interior was like a 2010 Caddy.

CharlieCroker

The CitiGolf. There was a red 09 around Cork up to a few years ago

Top Dog

CharlieCroker wrote: »

The CitiGolf. There was a red 09 around Cork up to a few years ago

There was a dark green 08 floating about too - spotted it in Cork and Kanturk. Again it was a few years ago

Technique

Citi Golf for sale. Interesting car.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-RABBIT-CITI-MK1-1-6L-4D-PX-SWAP-/265077252956?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286

Wibbs

That's very cool. One of the best car designs of all time the mark 1 Golf. Well Giugiaro held the crayons so... Later marks of course became faster and more capable with more toys and comfort and safety, but none came close to the purity of design of the first one.

colm_mcm

Technique wrote: »

Citi Golf for sale. Interesting car.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-RABBIT-CITI-MK1-1-6L-4D-PX-SWAP-/265077252956?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286

Interesting to note that they cost approx €6000 new in South Africa.

Titzon Toast

"Full rally spec stickers"

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-sierra-sapphire-cosworth-rep/27854504

Tzardine

What an abomination.

CianRyan

That might be the best quote we've had.

Mjolnir

CianRyan wrote: »

That might be the best quote we've had.

If a normal sticker adds 5bhp
How much does a full rally spec sticker add?

Wibbs

At least 100hp. Though to be fair the photos aren't too bad and show the interior and under the bonnet.

CianRyan

I would have though +20mm suspension travel and +50 grip on dirt.

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/1999-nissan-primera-sri-nct-22-gt-interior-/28117011



€2750 no offers for a "bargain future classic" 99 Primera diesel

User1998

€2,950 now

Toyotafanboi

It was up for €1950 yesterday evening. It's cool but i wouldn't pay €3k for it.

colm_mcm

Kinda shows they’re going up in value.

wotzgoingon

This fella's off the head. It looks good mind you but some price for a rep.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/car/28117310?campaign=3

Mjolnir

wotzgoingon wrote: »

This fella's off the head. It looks good mind you but some price for a rep.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/car/28117310?campaign=3

38k for a wrx with a body kit for another car.....
I'll have two of whatever he's on.

Wibbs

Mjolnir wrote: »

38k for a wrx with a body kit for another car.....
I'll have two of whatever he's on.

Many years back there was a RS200 kit that consisted of a spaceframe with panels on top and other bespoke bits and bobs to make it mid engined, using a Sierra Cossie as a donor(you'd be shot for that now ). It looked pretty bloody good tbh. I could understand something like that getting a good price because a) it followed the original mid engined 4WD layout and b) it kept things in the same manufacturer's stable as it were, so would retain some of the original feel and behaviour. This is "Ferrari" on MR2 territory.

And again with the crap ad. The header is "Car", the description is scant and the pics are decidedly so so. I can understand all of that for a 2 or 3k average car, but for something oddball and mad money?

MetzgerMeister

Mjolnir wrote: »

38k for a wrx with a body kit for another car.....
I'll have two of whatever he's on.

And probably the laziest ad I've ever seen

"Car for Sale"....FFS :rolleyes:

TheW1zard

https://www.donedeal.ie/carparts-for-sale/toyota-starlet-glanza-td04/28091304?campaign=14

Slips in the 14k at the end.. Japs prices on speed

Cheensbo

Is it a typo where it says NOI plates I wonder? surely price is including Irish VRT..

If it is, and it's a fresh import.. I'm not surprised at the price, but feckin hell it's getting out of hand alright.

Wibbs

TheW1zard wrote: »

Japs prices on speed

I could kinda understand this IF we were talking about standard unmolested cars. Low mileage and low ownership would be a bonus. That's what has always sold well in the classic end of things, modern or not. Though the more modern, the more standard and unmolested is what was traditionally expected, sought out and got the higher values.

With the Jap stuff, certainly here in Ireland the vast majority on offer are not standard, are often ropey, often with different body colour from original and riced out with aftermarket stuff. Traditionally that has never sold at a premium. Buyers want standard above all, with as little "upgrading" as possible. That is still the case in the rest of the world, but not here. Here sellers at least seem to think the market wants the lower end fecked about stuff with low mileage pristine example prices.

That Glanza a good example. 100,000 miles in old money is not "low mileage" unless you're flogging a retired Space Shuttle. All the aftermarket ricer stuff is not standard by any stretch and it would cost a fortune in cash and effort to return it to standard. If you could find the parts "Screamer pipe"... yeah. That stuff appealed to a young audience at the height of the JDM craze 15 years ago, but few young types today would want it, or could afford to insure it and those wanting a second car to relive their youth will seek out standard cars.

The Irish market has always been a bit funny, mostly because of a tiny population of petrolheads and a lack of choice, but still...

Cheensbo

Wibbs wrote: »

I could kinda understand this IF we were talking about standard unmolested cars. Low mileage and low ownership would be a bonus. That's what has always sold well in the classic end of things, modern or not. Though the more modern, the more standard and unmolested is what was traditionally expected, sought out and got the higher values.

With the Jap stuff, certainly here in Ireland the vast majority on offer are not standard, are often ropey, often with different body colour from original and riced out with aftermarket stuff. Traditionally that has never sold at a premium. Buyers want standard above all, with as little "upgrading" as possible. That is still the case in the rest of the world, but not here. Here sellers at least seem to think the market wants the lower end fecked about stuff with low mileage pristine example prices.

That Glanza a good example. 100,000 miles in old money is not "low mileage" unless you're flogging a retired Space Shuttle. All the aftermarket ricer stuff is not standard by any stretch and it would cost a fortune in cash and effort to return it to standard. If you could find the parts "Screamer pipe"... yeah. That stuff appealed to a young audience at the height of the JDM craze 15 years ago, but few young types today would want it, or could afford to insure it and those wanting a second car to relive their youth will seek out standard cars.

The Irish market has always been a bit funny, mostly because of a tiny population of petrolheads and a lack of choice, but still...

You're right in a lot of what you say above of course Wibbs, but the sums are simple on this one in my reckoning - that is if it's a fresh import

Car cost in Japan - approx €6k eur (estimate)
VAT, Duty, agent fees, shipping etc. approx €4k eur? (guess, someone else might be able to help on this)
VRT - approx €1500? + Nox €600
total car cost before cleaning, service, transport from port etc. - €12.1k

It's off the wall of course, but so is our current reality

Mjolnir

Wibbs wrote: »

I could kinda understand this IF we were talking about standard unmolested cars. Low mileage and low ownership would be a bonus. That's what has always sold well in the classic end of things, modern or not. Though the more modern, the more standard and unmolested is what was traditionally expected, sought out and got the higher values.

With the Jap stuff, certainly here in Ireland the vast majority on offer are not standard, are often ropey, often with different body colour from original and riced out with aftermarket stuff. Traditionally that has never sold at a premium. Buyers want standard above all, with as little "upgrading" as possible. That is still the case in the rest of the world, but not here. Here sellers at least seem to think the market wants the lower end fecked about stuff with low mileage pristine example prices.

That Glanza a good example. 100,000 miles in old money is not "low mileage" unless you're flogging a retired Space Shuttle. All the aftermarket ricer stuff is not standard by any stretch and it would cost a fortune in cash and effort to return it to standard. If you could find the parts "Screamer pipe"... yeah. That stuff appealed to a young audience at the height of the JDM craze 15 years ago, but few young types today would want it, or could afford to insure it and those wanting a second car to relive their youth will seek out standard cars.

The Irish market has always been a bit funny, mostly because of a tiny population of petrolheads and a lack of choice, but still...

Not to be that guy but an average of 7000km a year on a 24 year old car is low milage.
I'd also disagree on the desirability, I know plenty of people that would want it that are aged between 20's and their 50's.

I will agree there's an awful lot of tarted up messes left over from the nineties and naughties that should be stripped, made original and have the crap taken off incinerated.

yamaha4life

https://www.donedeal.ie/adview/view/27802584

11,750 for a 1.4 civic

Titzon Toast

yamaha4life wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/adview/view/27802584

11,750 for a 1.4 civic

50 shades of grey.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

TheW1zard wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/carparts-for-sale/toyota-starlet-glanza-td04/28091304?campaign=14

Slips in the 14k at the end.. Japs prices on speed

And it's a waste of time reporting ads like that to donedeal. My head was melted a few weeks ago with a similar seller. Reporting did nothing.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

yamaha4life wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/adview/view/27802584

11,750 for a 1.4 civic

I had to text him to find out. Yeah he's serious. He's entertaining offers around 10k...

I knew there was a drug problem in limerick though.

Wibbs

Mjolnir wrote: »

Not to be that guy but an average of 7000km a year on a 24 year old car is low milage.

Oh for its age it is alright, but when you see big ticket auctions on classics low mileage means low mileage regardless of age. That's more what I meant, though extremely low mileage brings its own issues. Interiors and exteriors may be pristine, but quite often every seal in the oily bits needs checking.

I'd also disagree on the desirability, I know plenty of people that would want it that are aged between 20's and their 50's.

Really M? I'm obviously out of the loop. Still I would have thought originality would be the thing when looking for a car like that, especially at the prices being sought. It's a near rule in the wider classic car market(and worldwide) that the higher the price the more standard the car. Third party "upgrades" are almost always frowned upon. Though to be fair JDM stuff is and always was a little bit of an outlier there. There's more of an expectation for them to be riced out. Whereas in the generation of mostly European cars just before that, the Max Power generation; something like a bog standard Renault 5 Turbo is going to get way more than a tricked out one these days. Those that escaped the Halford's makeover carry a premium.

I wonder is the JDM difference down to video games? Bear with me... A goodly part of their popularity came from that source and in the same games as you win more, you have options for upgrades. I have noticed that old third party JDM upgrades can go for crazy money on their own, in ways that no old third party Euro stuff would.

yamaha4life wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/adview/view/27802584

11,750 for a 1.4 civic

Jaysus. :eek: And yet there's a 1.6 Integra jazzed up with the right bits to look like an R on Arsebook marketplace for 4k.