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Doctors that aren't doctors. Dr. that are not Dr.

  • 10-12-2018 10:26pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭


    I think the word doctor should be a title preserved for those that provide healthcare to people. If you can diagnose or prescribe or write a note for someone that's ill you're a doctor. Otherwise you are not a doctor and should not be allowed put that title before your name.

    Who the fuck made Dr. Ian Paisley happen? :confused: There's other examples too btw...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,337 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Doctor Bunsen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Yeah having a person with a doctorate in sound engineering or English will not be any help if ur having a massive heart attack in front of them

    They should rename Doctorate of non medical subjects to something else


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,420 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I think the word doctor should be a title preserved for those that provide healthcare to people. If you can diagnose or prescribe or write a note for someone that's ill you're a doctor. Otherwise you are not a doctor and should not be allowed put that title before your name.

    Who the fuck made Dr. Ian Paisley happen? :confused: There's other examples too btw...

    You can't go round changing the English language like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,079 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    And surgical consultants are Misters, not doctors. The zany scamps.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    The title was originally dedicated to those who had obtained a Doctor of Philosophy.

    Therefore, all them medical doctors are really only fake doctors!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭PM me nudes


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Yeah having a person with a doctorate in sound engineering or English will not be any help if ur having a massive heart attack in front of them

    They should rename Doctorate of non medical subjects to something else

    The term Doctor was originally exclusively for people that had a doctorate degree, it was later adopted by medical doctors as it was deemed a title of honour and respect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Sarn


    Anyone with a doctorate is correctly called a doctor. It spread to medical practitioners and is used as a courtesy title. Recently vets in Ireland also use the title doctor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Yeah having a person with a doctorate in sound engineering or English will not be any help if ur having a massive heart attack in front of them
    Doctor of medicine would be fuqall use trying to balance the sound between the delay towers in Slane on a windy day.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭Raheem Euro




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think the word doctor should be a title preserved for those that provide healthcare to people. If you can diagnose or prescribe or write a note for someone that's ill you're a doctor. Otherwise you are not a doctor and should not be allowed put that title before your name.

    Who the fuck made Dr. Ian Paisley happen? :confused: There's other examples too btw...

    A non doctor with Dr in front of their name will have a degree, masters and a doctorate. A medical doctor just has a degree. Maybe the medical doctor should change their name to just their specific job e.g. GP. It would be easier that way and people would not think they had a doctorate and would know what type of medical doctor they were. Or would this not be ok with you?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    The term Doctor was originally exclusively for people that had a doctorate degree, it was later adopted by medical doctors as it was deemed a title of honour and respect.

    ^ Seems some people here are avid readers of the 'I bet you didn't know that.....' thread.

    ;-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    Who the fuck made Dr. Ian Paisley happen? :confused:

    Bob Jones University, honoury doctorate i.e. Micky Mouse doctorate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭kal7


    Chiropractors who use the title Dr. Now that is confusing

    I don't mind dr of say chemistry etc as they don't try to be medical


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭PM me nudes


    KevRossi wrote: »
    ^ Seems some people here are avid readers of the 'I bet you didn't know that.....' thread.

    ;-)

    No, I'm doing a PhD :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭magentis


    endacl wrote: »
    Doctor of medicine would be fuqall use trying to balance the sound between the delay towers in Slane on a windy day.

    :D

    Must have been a medical doctor doing it for GNR last year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Dr. Mantis Toboggan


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter


    I'm always puzzled when my dentist's receptionist answers the phone with the words "Doctor XXXXX's surgery"

    I assume that "Doctor" is an honourary title that he has awarded himself. Or are dentists entitled to call themselves doctor?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭PM me nudes


    Also, it's Dr not Dr. this side of the Atlantic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    The title was originally dedicated to those who had obtained a Doctor of Philosophy.

    Therefore, all them medical doctors are really only fake doctors!

    No, the original doctorates were theology, law and medicine. Doctor of Philosophy emerged in the mid-17th century.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Someone with a NFQ level 10 qualification is a doctor and, in gaining their qualification, has made a significant original contribution to the field of knowledge in their area.

    Perhaps medical practitioners should differentiate themselves by using the M.D. suffix


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,420 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Squatter wrote: »
    I'm always puzzled when my dentist's receptionist answers the phone with the words "Doctor XXXXX's surgery"

    I assume that "Doctor" is an honourary title that he has awarded himself. Or are dentists entitled to call themselves doctor?

    I wonder what a dictionary would say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!



    What a show! Good aul Jed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭troyzer


    There are different types of doctorates such as a DPhil, PhD, JD, DDS and of course an MD.

    They're all doctors. Saying that only MDs should be called doctors is bizarre.

    It should be noted that the last three are called professional doctorates which means they require no research so if anything it should be the MDs which drop the doctor label. Lawyers have never used theirs even though they're just as entitled.


  • Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dr. bollocko?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Dr Oz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,826 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Exactly what kind of doctor was Dr Who?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,826 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    And while I'm here, Dr Dre.
    What's his deal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    KevRossi wrote: »
    ^ Seems some people here are avid readers of the 'I bet you didn't know that.....' thread.

    ;-)

    Or some of us have Doctorates.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 lvoc


    And surgical consultants are Misters, not doctors. The zany scamps.

    Nowadays these also come in the female variety...
    (Ms/Miss)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    Panthro wrote: »
    Exactly what kind of doctor was Dr Who?

    Everything, as the Doctor has stated many times.
    Or some of us have Doctorates.

    Yep. It's the honorary ones you have to watch out for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,420 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I went to the doctor a few times recently. He told me I had hypocondria. I said you're probably right, I have had everything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,679 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    troyzer wrote: »
    There are different types of doctorates such as a DPhil, PhD, JD, DDS and of course an MD.

    I just read Dr Phil
    Sarn wrote: »
    Anyone with a doctorate is correctly called a doctor. It spread to medical practitioners and is used as a courtesy title. Recently vets in Ireland also use the title doctor.

    Pretty much screwed if on an airplane and someone shouts is there a doctor on board - psycho analysed, castrated...before someone realises you mean a medical doctor.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Panthro wrote: »
    Exactly what kind of doctor was Dr Who?

    Trust me, I'm the doctor.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    DR Congo was another one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    kal7 wrote: »
    Chiropractors who use the title Dr. Now that is confusing

    I don't mind dr of say chemistry etc as they don't try to be medical

    A chiropractor has as much legitimacy calling themselves a doctor as a butcher or a barber ( in this country)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Doc07


    Someone with a NFQ level 10 qualification is a doctor and, in gaining their qualification, has made a significant original contribution to the field of knowledge in their area.

    Perhaps medical practitioners should differentiate themselves by using the M.D. suffix

    And to add more confusion, in Ireland and UK, if you already have an undergraduate medical degree and are called Dr you can do a research Doctorate in Medicine also called an MD which is NFQ level 10 like a PhD.

    Still no guarantee they will be any use on a plane if someone faints.

    Respectfully yours

    Dr DOC MD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    A chiropractor has as much legitimacy calling themselves a doctor as a butcher or a barber ( in this country)

    Unless they earned a legitimate doctorate in something else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Dr Alban


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Dr Alban

    It's his life in fairness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    It's his life in fairness

    Stop fighting me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    I believe the Latin root of the word 'Doctor' is 'Docere' meaning, to teach or instruct, therefore all our teachers should be doctors :|


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Dr Ficheall is here to woefully ineptly answer any medical questions you may have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭ProfessorPlum


    Someone with a NFQ level 10 qualification is a doctor and, in gaining their qualification, has made a significant original contribution to the field of knowledge in their area.

    Perhaps medical practitioners should differentiate themselves by using the M.D. suffix

    Except that most doctors on this side of the pond don’t have an MD. More confusion!
    A non doctor with Dr in front of their name will have a degree, masters and a doctorate. A medical doctor just has a degree. Maybe the medical doctor should change their name to just their specific job e.g. GP. It would be easier that way and people would not think they had a doctorate and would know what type of medical doctor they were. Or would this not be ok with you?

    Most medical doctors will have 3 degrees. At least. And any who are fully trained (ie to consultant level) will have further postgraduate degrees, diplomas, and also may have a doctorate. Becomes cumbersome to insist on all of them being used when addressing them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    A fair few 'doctors' have posted on this thread already lol. Yep. Guarantee none of them are actual doctors that involve healthcare.

    There should be a distinction. And 95% of people know doctors as someone who will look after you if sick. Otherwise putting a Dr before your name is a fake title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Someone with a NFQ level 10 qualification is a doctor and, in gaining their qualification, has made a significant original contribution to the field of knowledge in their area.

    Perhaps medical practitioners should differentiate themselves by using the M.D. suffix

    So someone who "has made a significant original contribution to the field of knowledge in their area." They are worth being called a doctor?

    Only people that deserve the title of doctor is a GP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    So someone who "has made a significant original contribution to the field of knowledge in their area." They are worth being called a doctor?

    Only people that deserve the title of doctor is a GP.

    Grand. Don’t use the title so.

    How’s the phd in knickertwisting coming along?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    There should be a distinction. And 95% of people know doctors as someone who will look after you if sick. Otherwise putting a Dr before your name is a fake title.
    Given several posts in this thread have clearly explained why that's a stupid position, and given that you've just ignored them and restated your position, and given your ridiculous username, I'm going to assume you're a troll.

    That's a word we used to use exclusively for mythical Norwegian monsters, but in the modern meaning is also used to discribe muppets on the internet. Does that confuse you too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    y-doctor-here-im-a-doctor-ts-going-on-heart-27889177.png


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