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Creche problem?

  • 10-12-2018 11:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭


    Our son is four months along with two, he attends creche since he turned two, he only goes two days per week, the positives are he socialises with kids from the a locality, he is always happy when we leave him over.

    However he has gotten a vomiting bug, three chest infections and has hardly been without a cough now for two months despite being with the doctor three times in the past month, we are seriously considering removing him as it's not a must that he goes.

    I've always been of the view that many parents leave their kids over sick to creche and as such they are bug factories.

    Doctor prescribed our boy inhalers last week as he thinks asthma might be the cause, not sure if people are born with asthma or if an environment can encourage it?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I'm sorry, but what's your question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    Ultimately he’s going to be exposed to germs at some point. If it’s not now, it will be when he starts school. It’s the season for coughs and colds, and children are little germ factories. If he’s two now, he will presumably be starting ecce next year, and he’ll get everything going then, if not now. If you leave him be, his immunity should gradually improve


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    He is what? Four months along with 2?

    Is that code for 2 years and a bit?

    What does that even mean!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    ardinn wrote: »
    He is what? Four months along with 2?

    Is that code for 2 years and a bit?

    What does that even mean!

    28 months

    Clear enough?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    I'm sorry, but what's your question?

    Sure.

    I was wondering if anyone had encountered the same with creche.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Sure.

    I was wondering if anyone had encountered the same with creche.

    It's common until your child starts to develop resistance.

    Get used to it for at least 12 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    jlm29 wrote: »
    Ultimately he’s going to be exposed to germs at some point. If it’s not now, it will be when he starts school. It’s the season for coughs and colds, and children are little germ factories. If he’s two now, he will presumably be starting ecce next year, and he’ll get everything going then, if not now. If you leave him be, his immunity should gradually improve

    My GP told me that the defense mechanism of a four year old is considerably stronger than that of a two year old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭polydactyl


    Commonly known as Crecheitis. It’s either now or when he starts school. Your choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭killanena


    Pretty much the first year my daughter was in creche, she got sick at least once or twice every 2 months. It does improve immunity as she hasn't gotten sick at all the last year. Other parents we talk too that use the same creche have said the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Just to add to the gloom..
    Chickenpox is his next ailing.
    We've all been here with creche I'm afraid :(

    To thine own self be true



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    polydactyl wrote: »
    Commonly known as Crecheitis. It’s either now or when he starts school. Your choice.

    Except he will be three years older when he starts school and in terms of his resistance to bugs and ability - strength to withstand all that, leaps and bounds more able.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,240 ✭✭✭limnam


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Except he will be three years older when he starts school and in terms of his resistance to bugs and ability - strength to withstand all that, leaps and bounds more able.


    how do you think he'll build up resistance to things he's not getting hit by?


    Not sure what you're looking for here?


    keep him at home if you're that concerned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,441 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Sure.

    I was wondering if anyone had encountered the same with creche.

    Children get sick.

    It's all part of a developing immune system.

    It's normal.

    It's got nothing to do with other parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,441 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Except he will be three years older when he starts school and in terms of his resistance to bugs and ability - strength to withstand all that, leaps and bounds more able.

    Keep him at home then.

    Are your looking for posters to round on other parents or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    28 months

    Clear enough?

    Your kid has fun at the crèche 2 days per week. Let him have his fun. None of these little bugs are doing him any harm. He’s building up his defence systems for when he has to go to preschool 5 days a week.
    If you kept him at home all week and you had older kids they would be bringing home bugs and stuff and then he’d catch it off them and be sick anyway.
    Of course kids getting sick is an inconvenience to parents. Everything your kids do is more or less an inconvenience from they are born for about 25 years. Just accept that and stop looking around for someone to blame. Relax. This is being a parent.
    PS. I’ll have €5 with you he is sick on Christmas Day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Keep him at home then.

    Are your looking for posters to round on other parents or something?

    What other parents?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Your kid has fun at the crèche 2 days per week. Let him have his fun. None of these little bugs are doing him any harm. He’s building up his defence systems for when he has to go to preschool 5 days a week.
    If you kept him at home all week and you had older kids they would be bringing home bugs and stuff and then he’d catch it off them and be sick anyway.
    Of course kids getting sick is an inconvenience to parents. Everything your kids do is more or less an inconvenience from they are born for about 25 years. Just accept that and stop looking around for someone to blame. Relax. This is being a parent.
    PS. I’ll have €5 with you he is sick on Christmas Day.

    People who run the creche are great, not attaching any criticism to them at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    My GP told me that the defense mechanism of a four year old is considerably stronger than that of a two year old.

    Ecce starts from 2 years 9 months now, so germs, bugs, coughs and colds are pretty unavoidable from that point forward. It’s part of life though. I still catch the odd cold or cough.
    Of course, if you want to keep him at home in a germ free environment, that’s your prerogative, but if he enjoys the social interaction I wouldn’t deprive him of it. Presumably if he doesn’t have to attend crèche, there’s an alternative childcare option, then when he’s sick, it’s not a major inconvenience anyhow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,441 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    What other parents?
    I've always been of the view that many parents leave their kids over sick to creche and as such they are bug factories.

    those ones


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    So he's been in the creche 4 months.

    First 3-6 month of creche can be hard as they'll come down with a lot of things as they build up their immune system.

    It's not a great time of year for sickness too!
    Hopefully by spring you'll notice a good change.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Shaunoc


    6 months :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭mitresize5


    wife is back to work after 12 months mat leave in Jan.

    Baby in creche 3 mornings a week since early November to get all it all done and dusted before we are both back working.

    These are the practicality's of modern living Im afraid.

    They are going to have to get all these bugs at some stage so you might as well get it out of the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Except he will be three years older when he starts school and in terms of his resistance to bugs and ability - strength to withstand all that, leaps and bounds more able.

    Only if he's exposed to illness and bugs prior to that. He can only build immunity if he's exposed to the bacteria and viruses that cause illness.

    Let him go to creche, let him get dirty. Don't spend all your time following him around with antibacterial wipes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭hello2020


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Except he will be three years older when he starts school and in terms of his resistance to bugs and ability - strength to withstand all that, leaps and bounds more able.

    i am not a medical expert but i believe in this line of thinking and think its better to keep them safe as long as we can...

    i feel caring for a sick 1 year baby vs a 3 to 5 year toddler is different as they have better communication skills and eating options as they grow older..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭CheerLouth


    If you really think he is getting more doses than he should be, consider putting him on a multivitamin perhaps to help boost him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    hello2020 wrote: »
    i am not a medical expert but i believe in this line of thinking and think its better to keep them safe as long as we can...

    i feel caring for a sick 1 year baby vs a 3 to 5 year toddler is different as they have better communication skills and eating options as they grow older..

    Family GP agrees.

    She put it like this

    "if immunity through exposure was everything, we would advocate sending kids to creche at three months old


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Up to yourself really OP.My GP said you would reasonably expect them to catch 6-8 viruses in a year, and I assume that's in addition to bacterial infections.If you need him in creche, then that's just how it is.If you have a choice about it, then sure, pull him out.
    Personally I have three small kids here.All of them bring infections in, and all of them catch them off each other-they are all currently smothered, including the baby (who may have started it this time).Immunity through exposure is not everything but equally keeping him out doesn't mean he will stay germ free.It really is up to your personal circumstances.


  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭hello2020


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Family GP agrees.

    She put it like this

    "if immunity through exposure was everything, we would advocate sending kids to creche at three months old

    your GP makes perfect sense to me and i will go with her advise..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭cornflake1


    Could you try a childminder instead? Fewer children to catch bugs from.


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