What you see in Dublin

Beechwoodspark

Wanderer78 wrote: »

What should they do to 'deal with them'?

Depending on the crime Personally I would say

Arrest
Charge
Bring to court
If guilty send them off to a prison ship somewhere near Rockall. Let them work hard Labour 18 hours a day
Ship will need heavy security. Probably a job for the army (much better than sending them down to the med as a taxi service)
Sentences need to be very long and harsh

That’s for starters.

Special treatment should be given to a certain culture that likes to terrorize and violently attack/murder pensioners in their homes.

Wanderer78

Beechwoodspark wrote:

That’s for starters.

How many politicians would support this?

Beechwoodspark

Wanderer78 wrote: »

How many politicians would support this?

If we keep voting for stupid lazy greedy useless gobsh1tes we have to shoulder some of the blame unfortunalty

Wanderer78

Beechwoodspark wrote:

If we keep voting for stupid lazy greedy useless gobsh1tes we have to shoulder some of the blame unfortunalty

How many politicians would actually go on this ticket though?

Sycamore Tree

The Dubliners that turn a blind eye to the problems in Dublin city centre only make things worse. If there is no agitation or protestations around the zombies, drug dealers and scumbags, then there will absolutely be no political will to fix it.

John_Rambo

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

The Dubliners that turn a blind eye to the problems in Dublin city centre only make things worse. If there is no agitation or protestations around the zombies, drug dealers and scumbags, then there will absolutely be no political will to fix it.

Mob rule or vigilantism isn’t the answer. As pointed out earlier on in the thread Dublin needs more investment. Extra policing, housing, better public transport etc… is all needed. And believe me, there are people asking for it, you're (again) just now aware of that! But you have to remember, most of the rest of the country is dependent on Dublin cash.

223vmax

Is there a needle exchange around Ushers Quay?

Ash.J.Williams

Cina wrote: »

Ah it's the boards.ie weekly "Let's bash Dublin" thread.

Featuring such hits as

"place is full o' scummers!"
"what a skip, seriously!"
"can't f*ckin' go anywhere without a car there"
"where's me Dublin Bus lads?"
"worse than bleedin' Africa so it is!"

The bus doesn't even give change

Ash.J.Williams

223vmax wrote: »

Is there a needle exchange around Ushers Quay?

Merchants Quay.. Nightmare

mikhail

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Depending on the crime Personally I would say

Arrest
Charge
Bring to court
If guilty send them off to a prison ship somewhere near Rockall. Let them work hard Labour 18 hours a day
Ship will need heavy security. Probably a job for the army (much better than sending them down to the med as a taxi service)
Sentences need to be very long and harsh

That’s for starters.

Special treatment should be given to a certain culture that likes to terrorize and violently attack/murder pensioners in their homes.

I sometimes feel sorry for politicians. Imagine going door to door and hearing this drivel and having to convince the person to vote for you even though you have no intention of making human rights watch lists.

whisky_galore

splashuum wrote: »

Growing Muslim population.

When's the last time you got mugged by a Muslim?

John_Rambo

whisky_galore wrote: »

When's the last time you got mugged by a Muslim?

De Muslims are taking over, did you not see it on Facebook?

MarkHenderson

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

If we keep voting for stupid lazy greedy useless gobsh1tes we have to shoulder some of the blame unfortunalty

This. You get the government you deserve. FFG will never change the status quo.

Wanderer78

MarkHenderson wrote: »

This. You get the government you deserve. FFG will never change the status quo.

do we really?

whisky_galore

John_Rambo wrote: »

De Muslims are taking over, did you not see it on Facebook?

How dare dey take over ar cuntry.

gargargar

Never mind the muslims, Dublin was a great city until all the culchies ruined it by moving here.

realdanbreen

John_Rambo wrote: »

But you have to remember, most of the rest of the country is dependent on Dublin cash.

Are you for real?
Do you think that the exchequer is there for Dublin only! Or maybe have one government for Dublin and another one for the rest of the country.

realdanbreen

gargargar wrote: »

Never mind the muslims, Dublin was a great city until all the culchies ruined it by moving here.

Ah yes, and don't forget bang bang and forty coats and all the oul relics of oul decency, and shur there were great days in the rat infested tenements and we all living up on top of one another, god be with the days.

corner of hells

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Merchants Quay.. Nightmare

Yep it provides a needle exchange , drop in service , limited food services , a primary health care service with access to a doctor , dental services , nurses both mental and general health , generic and drug counselling and support access stabilisation ,detox etc. for amongst the most vulnerable in society.
Nightmare indeed.

They're always looking for volunteers maybe offer your services.

John_Rambo

realdanbreen wrote: »

Are you for real?

I am.

realdanbreen wrote: »

Do you think that the exchequer is there for Dublin only

I don’t. The rest of the country wouldn’t survive without Dublin money. (We've been through this)

realdanbreen wrote: »

Or maybe have one government for Dublin and another one for the rest of the country.

That’s a silly suggestion, however, I’d like a voted mayor that would have more power and fight for the city and help it to invest in itself.

Sycamore Tree

John_Rambo wrote: »

Mob rule or vigilantism isn’t the answer. As pointed out earlier on in the thread Dublin needs more investment. Extra policing, housing, better public transport etc… is all needed. And believe me, there are people asking for it, you're (again) just now aware of that! But you have to remember, most of the rest of the country is dependent on Dublin cash.

So given you are the most defensive here, what have you done to raise awareness of the problem or try and create political will to fix it?

PS thanks for the cash

Church on Tuesday

realdanbreen wrote: »

Yeah, but you're from the west of Ireland. I'm sure if I was sitting on a stone wall in Maams Cross then somewhere like Ballyraggett would apper to be almost cosmopolitan to me!

Where I grew up is a small village sandwiched between Charlestown and Ballahagdereen.

I would consider neither to be cosmopolitan.

Gotta go now, tis market day tis always a big day out for the parish, best not get on the wrong side of the local parish priest and his walking stick though, hup ya boya and maybe dancing at the crossroads later.

Etc Etc. :rolleyes:

John_Rambo

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

So given you are the most defensive here, what have you done to raise awareness of the problem or try and create political will to fix it?

PS thanks for the cash

I’ve volunteered in youth programs in the inner city. I was secretary of one of the largest inner city youth groups that’s responsible for taking kids off streets and teaching them valuable life skills and responsibilities. As part of that group we constantly lobbied councillors and politicians to improve the inner city, particularly the North East inner city where I was involved. We were successful in acquiring land and assets to improve the lives of more than one community through grand aid and fundraising, the knock on effect was three permanent and two part time jobs along with life changing experiences that would never be afforded to kids in the area.

realdanbreen

John_Rambo wrote: »

I’ve volunteered in youth programs in the inner city. I was secretary of one of the largest inner city youth groups that’s responsible for taking kids off streets and teaching them valuable life skills and responsibilities. As part of that group we constantly lobbied councillors and politicians to improve the inner city, particularly the North East inner city where I was involved. We were successful in acquiring land and assets to improve the lives of more than one community through grand aid and fundraising, the knock on effect was three permanent and two part time jobs along with life changing experiences that would never be afforded to kids in the area.

Congratulations.
Getting back to what the thread is about. The OP said that she was shocked at what she saw in Dublin on a recent trip. She has a valid point in that Dubliners seem to have accepted that it's OK that the city is now a dangerous kip. Liverpool faced the same problem years ago and allowed the place turn into a manky dive.

John_Rambo

realdanbreen wrote: »

Congratulations.
Getting back to what the thread is about.

There’s not need to be a smarty pants. I was asked a genuine question regarding my involvement in the city and I answered it.

realdanbreen wrote: »

The OP said that she was shocked at what she saw in Dublin on a recent trip. She has a valid point in that Dubliners seem to have accepted that it's OK that the city is now a dangerous kip. Liverpool faced the same problem years ago and allowed the place turn into a manky dive.

Again! (and again) I think the city needs big investment to combat the social problems it has.

By the way, Dublin isn’t dangerous at all. You’re just reading that it is on internet forums and on Facebook. Dublin is an overall safe city with a rating of 72.7, it is ranked 41th out of 113 on the ranking of the safest and most dangerous cities.

Edgware

gargargar wrote: »

Never mind the muslims, Dublin was a great city until all the culchies ruined it by moving here.

I sure miss those 15 to a room incest rampant tenements. It's no wonder the brain dead slum dwellers believe that old Dublin in the rare oul times ****e spouted by Duffy and others who were quick to move to the leafy suburbs at first opportunity

MadYaker

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I'm from the west of Ireland and for the life of me I cannot understand this Dublin bashing thing.

It's a capital european city, what do you expect? You will see all sorts in cities around the world.

Either some people here don't get out very much or they had an extremely sheltered upbringing...

Or they travel all over Europe and can't help but notice that Dublins problems are much more in your face than any other capital. Drugs, homeless, litter etc it's there but less visible in other places.

dhaughton99

While walking the dog this morning, I came across two people walking a goat through Clondalkin village near the vets. Like a real thicko Dub, I had to ask what it was. I thought a shaved sheep for some reason.

Ash.J.Williams

dhaughton99 wrote: »

While walking the dog this morning, I came across two people walking a goat through Clondalkin village near the vets. Like a real thicko Dub, I had to ask what it was. I thought a shaved sheep for some reason.

The dub is the thicko and you can't tell a sheep from a goat and you think they shave in December?

Grayson

MadYaker wrote: »

Or they travel all over Europe and can't help but notice that Dublins problems are much more in your face than any other capital. Drugs, homeless, litter etc it's there but less visible in other places.

I've been to a lot of european cities. Dublin is far from the worst.

Grayson

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

The dub is the thicko and you can't tell a sheep from a goat and you think they shave in December?

To be fair, it's not that easy to tell the difference.

https://act.heifer.org/sheep-or-goat/

Esel

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

The dub is the thicko and you can't tell a sheep from a goat and you think they shave in December?

Read the post again...

Fiftyfilthy

saw a man standing literally upright against a wall on the north circular road during the afternoon having a ****.

He didn't look like a drunk or homeless person and seemed oblivious to the people walking past

Walked by the **** later that evening coming home from work, human **** is so smelly and large when not confined to a toilet bowl under water

realdanbreen

dhaughton99 wrote: »

While walking the dog this morning, I came across two people walking a goat through Clondalkin village near the vets. Like a real thicko Dub, I had to ask what it was. I thought a shaved sheep for some reason.

Are you sure it was clondalkin and not goatstown?

Seanachai

Anybody else noticed the smattering of dog s**t on the footpaths in Dublin that's now almost become normal? Phibsboro and Drumcondra are just covered in it, they put signs up warning about the dangers to children's health and fines etc but like a lot of laws in Ireland, it doesn't seem to be a deterrent.

Carlingford Locked

John_Rambo wrote: »

By the way, Dublin isn’t dangerous at all. You’re just reading that it is on internet forums and on Facebook. Dublin is an overall safe city with a rating of 72.7, it is ranked 41th out of 113 on the ranking of the safest and most dangerous cities.

Dubliner here. I've never felt in danger in any city really, maybe Caracas. But the level of begging and heroin addict behaviour here is unrivaled in any city I've ever been to. I've not been to Seattle or San Fran though which people say are really bad. I've seen your posts and you seem to think Dublin is some kind of paradise. It's a nice place to live if you have your sh*t together alright, so I've a good life here. On the other hand, I cannot for the life of me understand why you'd want to visit Dublin as a tourist. Manhattan priced hotels, terrible weather, some of the most expensive food and booze in Europe, and the most pedestrian and cycle unfriendly city I can think of.

Edinburgh for e.g. is a beautiful city and offers all that Dublin does at a more affordable price. I lived there for a bit and now that I think of it they have heroin addicts there that look the exact same as ours, they're just not as prominent. Either way I'd recommend it 100 times over Dublin to a visitor.

riclad

I think tourists visit here for irish culture , music , theatre etc and we speak english .
Is dublin any more expensive than london or paris.I doubt it.
there seems to be a post on here every 2 months .
I came from a small town i went to dublin, OMG , i came to dublin ,
i saw some junkies .
You could go to new york or boston or any large city and see the same thing.
I understand dublin might be a culture shock if you live in a small rural town.

Seanachai

riclad wrote: »

I think tourists visit here for irish culture , music , theatre etc and we speak english .
Is dublin any more expensive than london or paris.I doubt it.
there seems to be a post on here every 2 months .
I came from a small town i went to dublin, OMG , i came to dublin ,
i saw some junkies .
You could go to new york or boston or any large city and see the same thing.
I understand dublin might be a culture shock if you live in a small rural town.

I don't even come from a town, I come from a field and I've been living in Dublin over ten years now. I adapted pretty well to urban life, but it does seem that while every major city has junkies, Dublin's seem to be in your face a lot more. If they're not roaring at each other across the road or arguing out loud on the bus, they're hitting people up for change.

John_Rambo

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

Dubliner here. I've never felt in danger in any city really, maybe Caracas. But the level of begging and heroin addict behaviour here is unrivaled in any city I've ever been to. I've not been to Seattle or San Fran though which people say are really bad. I've seen your posts and you seem to think Dublin is some kind of paradise. It's a nice place to live if you have your sh*t together alright, so I've a good life here. On the other hand, I cannot for the life of me understand why you'd want to visit Dublin as a tourist. Manhattan priced hotels, terrible weather, some of the most expensive food and booze in Europe, and the most pedestrian and cycle unfriendly city I can think of.

Edinburgh for e.g. is a beautiful city and offers all that Dublin does at a more affordable price. I lived there for a bit and now that I think of it they have heroin addicts there that look the exact same as ours, they're just not as prominent. Either way I'd recommend it 100 times over Dublin to a visitor.

Yeah, again (and again, and again), just because you can’t see or are unaware of what’s worth visiting in Dublin doesn’t mean other people can’t see or are unaware of what’s worth visiting in Dublin! Maybe you don’t like the particular cultural experiences, the history, the architecture, the parks, the people and coastline that Dublin has to offer!

But other people do.

Just a few corrections

Dublin has the cheapest eateries in Ireland. You just don’t know them.
Dublin had good weather, not terrible weather.
In Dublin city centre, the pedestrian is king, it’s very pedestrian friendly.
I don’t think Dublin is paradise, I just know it better than you.
And Finally, recommending other cities over Dublin to people that want to see Collins Barracks, Trinity, do the GPO tour etc… is just stupid.

raxy

iamwhoiam wrote: »

What I saw today in Dublin was lots of lovely kids all dressed in the uniform , all neat and tidy going to school. I saw mums and dads and nanas and grandads holding their hands and making sure they hats on . I saw a gentleman hold the gate for the kids and keep them safe . And I saw the lollipop lady all dressed in a santa hat with a huge smile for all the kids

The lollipop lady was only wearing a hat & a smile? Did you report her? The kids must be scarred after that!

whisky_galore

whisky_galore wrote: »

Sorry, it is a sh1thole of a place. Highly visible scumbags coupled with a miserable level of law enforcement that scummers just laugh at.
It ain't Caracas but I'm sure it could be a lot better than it is.

I've posted this before, but it's worth repeating........If all you see is scumbags and junkies you need to start visiting somewhere other than the streets between Connolly and Heuston.

Dublin has a lot going for it that other places in the country just don't have, or at least don't have all of them:

Access to Cinemas, theatres, concerts, sporting events, top restaurants, public transport (quiet down the back!), international airport, infrastructure to reach the rest of the country, public parks and festivals, a ski slope, theme parks, swimming pools, shopping centres, late night shops & cafes & bars & nightclubs, international tourists, museums, supermarkets, IKEA, fishing, kayaking, rowing, diving, the Zoo, the Phoenix park, food festivals, horse racing, greyhounds, cathedrals, mountains, hiking, casinos, sailing, golf courses etc.

Of all those, the ski slope in Kilmacanogue is the furthest distance away from, say, Dublin 5 and that's only 45 mins by car. How many of those do you have relatively easy access to in, say, Douglas?

That's before you get into the one-off / emergency places you might need visit like the NCT centres, hospitals, embassies or government departments, passport office etc.

Dublin is vastly underrated by a majority of people, most of whom are familiar around a small part and never experience most of the above. Others see junkies on the boardwalk when they get off at Buss or Heuston and dismiss the rest of the city.

meeeeh

riclad wrote: »

I think tourists visit here for irish culture , music , theatre etc and we speak english .
Is dublin any more expensive than london or paris.I doubt it.
there seems to be a post on here every 2 months .
I came from a small town i went to dublin, OMG , i came to dublin ,
i saw some junkies .
You could go to new york or boston or any large city and see the same thing.
I understand dublin might be a culture shock if you live in a small rural town.

Certain music is great and theatre is brilliant in my opinion. Opera house is missing and classicalmusic is also underrepresented. Is there a ballet ensemble? Dublin has some great stuff but I don't think all criticism can be attributed to big city shock. I was born in Central Europe, it's not that hard to visit mid size city and compare.

Carlingford Locked

John_Rambo wrote: »

Yeah, again (and again, and again), just because you can’t see or are unaware of what’s worth visiting in Dublin doesn’t mean other people can’t see or are unaware of what’s worth visiting in Dublin! Maybe you don’t like the particular cultural experiences, the history, the architecture, the parks, the people and coastline that Dublin has to offer!

But other people do.

Just a few corrections

Dublin has the cheapest eateries in Ireland. You just don’t know them.
Dublin had good weather, not terrible weather.
In Dublin city centre, the pedestrian is king, it’s very pedestrian friendly.
I don’t think Dublin is paradise, I just know it better than you.
And Finally, recommending other cities over Dublin to people that want to see Collins Barracks, Trinity, do the GPO tour etc… is just stupid.

It's not pedestrian friendly at all. Take a walk around Merrion Row and Baggot st. Or Dame st. We have massive volumes of traffic flowing through the city centre which makes it dirty and noisy and frankly dangerous for pedestrians and cyclists.

The weather is generally sh*te in Ireland. Where have you been the last 2 months?

How do you know you know it better than me? Because you know where to get a bowl of pho for 8 euros on Capel St? So do I. And that's cool and all, but you'll find that in any moderately sized city.

What parks? What park would you recommend a tourist to go to today? St Anns? The Phoenix park? Why?

And architecture? It's a mish mash of mostly ugly architecture, some parts are nice alright, like where I work, in the Merrion area, but for the most part it's a bit of a kip.

John_Rambo

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

It's not pedestrian friendly at all. Take a walk around Merrion Row and Baggot st. Or Dame st. We have massive volumes of traffic flowing through the city centre which makes it dirty and noisy and frankly dangerous for pedestrians and cyclists.

Very safe area for pedestrians, very few accidents happen here. But I agree 100%, to much vehicular traffic for a city..

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

The weather is generally sh*te in Ireland. Where have you been the last 2 months?

It's not. We have a temperate maritime or oceanic climate that gets drier as you travel East, it’s unpredictable & easy to prepare for, but certainly not extreme. If you want crap weather go do Dubai or Darwin.

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

How do you know you know it better than me? Because you know where to get a bowl of pho for 8 euros on Capel St? So do I. And that's cool and all, but you'll find that in any moderately sized city.

I don't know why I know the city better than you. It's just the way it is and that’s a stretch from “The most expensive food in Europe” You’re learning by looking back at my previous posts.

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

What parks? What park would you recommend a tourist to go to today? St Anns? The Phoenix park? Why?

Yes, both those two for the follies, the rut, the zoo, the Botony, the wildlife, the gardens, there are also particular places of interests for sportspeople. I’d also advise you to visit Blessington Street Basin, Iveagh Gardens, Garden of Remembrance, Croppies Acre, The Botanical Gardens, Dartmouth Square Park, St Patrick's Park, Mountjoy Square Park, Santry Demense, Albert College Park, Griffith Park, Ardgillan Castle and Victorian Garden, Malahide Castle and Gardens and of course Stephen’s green is stunning too. You should really go there. That's aside from areas such as Howth head, Killiney hill and the Dublin mountains and of course the many beaches.

What parks indeed. :rolleyes:

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

And architecture? It's a mish mash of mostly ugly architecture, some parts are nice alright, like where I work, in the Merrion area, but for the most part it's a bit of a kip.

Wrong again, Dublin boasts a rich and broad architectural history. Tourists love it and there are tours catered towards the cities architecture.

Carlingford Locked

Wasn't looking through your threads but I've been lurking on boards for years and you can't seem to get over the fact that there are Asian restaurants. In Dublin! Holy sh*t!
And yes, eating out in Dublin is ridiculously expensive, apart from a few Asian places that you're so fond of. I don't care if it's the cheapest place in Ireland to eat out, I live in Dublin so that's what matters to me. It's really expensive. You can rarely get a bottle of wine in a restaurant for less than 20 euros for example. Even in London you'll often get a 9 or 10 pound bottle on the menu. I live there for years and found it a good bit cheaper to eat out in.
I've been to most of those parks. Walking around a boring park in winter isn't my idea of fun but I suppose different strokes for different folks. I did enjoy St Ann's during the nice weather as you can lay on the grass and sunbathe however, but weather like that is a freak occurance here. There are more than 2 climates apart from the sh*tty Irish climate, and Dubai. Irish weather although it's never very uncomfortable, is awful. We don't usually get a summer.
Anyway, you live in Cloudcuckooland when it comes to Dublin. And it's not a pretty city, maybe in your opinion, but you're tapped. I have never once met a tourist who said the city was beautiful.
Our public transport is awful too. But I'm sure you'll tell me how wonderful it is.

dont bother

im a dub, and ive lived here all my life. i now live in the city centre, rather than suburbs where i grew up.

the only people i EVER hear giving out about Dublin are culchies.
why is it that culchies give out so much about dublin when they are the ones who contribute to it's badness?

it's the very culchie spud munchers that are giving out, and saying it's the worst and there are better places to live and "you'd swear dubliners think it's a metropolis" - it's a metropolis in comparison to ALL of the rest of ireland.

this entire country is a tiny joke, so what i find very amusing is that the culchie bogger spud munching farmers that come up to dublin to live and work are giving out about it all - they are just terrified of confrontation. like, lads, ye've no reason to be afraid of junkies taking a sh!t on the road, so what if it's gross, but it's not something to be afraid of. that's the jist of it - the culchies are AFRAID of dublin.

a LOT of worse crime actually happens in the countryside....

the reason a lot of culchies think dublin is a sh!t hole is because they are narrow minded and if they dont live in dublin, the only experience they have of it is driving up to croke park (which is not a "nice" area) and/or taking a journey down the most horrible bit of the quays to get to heuston past where all the town junkies actually live...

culchies are hilarious. ye havent copped on yet that Dublin keeps the worst bits for the culchies to experience!

sure ye're all covered in muck and rough and ready to go, so ye'll be grand. just whack them with yer hurley boi, yeeow! yahoo! Hon Tipp etc etc...

yahoo

dont bother

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

Wasn't looking through your threads but I've been lurking on boards for years and you can't seem to get over the fact that there are Asian restaurants. In Dublin! Holy sh*t!
And yes, eating out in Dublin is ridiculously expensive, apart from a few Asian places that you're so fond of. I don't care if it's the cheapest place in Ireland to eat out, I live in Dublin so that's what matters to me. It's really expensive. You can rarely get a bottle of wine in a restaurant for less than 20 euros for example. Even in London you'll often get a 9 or 10 pound bottle on the menu. I live there for years and found it a good bit cheaper to eat out in.
I've been to most of those parks. Walking around a boring park in winter isn't my idea of fun but I suppose different strokes for different folks. I did enjoy St Ann's during the nice weather as you can lay on the grass and sunbathe however, but weather like that is a freak occurance here. There are more than 2 climates apart from the sh*tty Irish climate, and Dubai. Irish weather although it's never very uncomfortable, is awful. We don't usually get a summer.
Anyway, you live in Cloudcuckooland when it comes to Dublin. And it's not a pretty city, maybe in your opinion, but you're tapped. I have never once met a tourist who said the city was beautiful.
Our public transport is awful too. But I'm sure you'll tell me how wonderful it is.

you're so closed minded. why dont you leave the country, Dublin is the best bit of Ireland, and it's the best you'll get here, so why not leave, or you must be secretly happy enough to stay in dublin then...

so, hypocrite or just thick? must be muck or spuds in your eyes

John_Rambo

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

Wasn't looking through your threads but I've been lurking on boards for years and you can't seem to get over the fact that there are Asian restaurants. In Dublin! Holy sh*t!
And yes, eating out in Dublin is ridiculously expensive, apart from a few Asian places that you're so fond of.

There are plenty of very affordable eateries all over the city from gastro-pub to tapas to carvery to top end early bird offers and pre-theatre menus. Again, just because you don’t know about them doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

I don't care if it's the cheapest place in Ireland to eat out, I live in Dublin so that's what matters to me. It's really expensive. You can rarely get a bottle of wine in a restaurant for less than 20 euros for example. Even in London you'll often get a 9 or 10 pound bottle on the menu. I live there for years and found it a good bit cheaper to eat out in.

I paid €5 corkage in a restaurant on Friday. Try the BYOB places. Again, just because you don’t know about them doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

I've been to most of those parks..

You were saying “what parks” five minutes ago. Now not only are you aware of them, but you’ve been to most of them? Pull the other one Carlingford locked :pac::pac:

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

Walking around a boring park in winter isn't my idea of fun but I suppose different strokes for different folks.

? I keep telling you tourists like things like this. just because you don’t like certain experiences it doesn’t mean tourists don’t like them.

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

I did enjoy St Ann's during the nice weather as you can lay on the grass and sunbathe however, but weather like that is a freak occurance here. There are more than 2 climates apart from the sh*tty Irish climate, and Dubai. Irish weather although it's never very uncomfortable, is awful. We don't usually get a summer.

We have a temperate climate. It’s not as bad as you think it is, we don’t have to adapt our lives for extreme cold or heat.

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

Anyway, you live in Cloudcuckooland when it comes to Dublin. And it's not a pretty city, maybe in your opinion, but you're tapped. I have never once met a tourist who said the city was beautiful. Our public transport is awful too. But I'm sure you'll tell me how wonderful it is.

I’ve met hundreds of tourists that love Dublin. Public transport isn’t good, but tourists mainly rely on the DART and use it off peak and at weekends, so it works out very well for them. (if you ever met a tourist in Dublin you’d know this)

Seanachai

John_Rambo wrote: »

There are plenty of very affordable eateries all over the city from gastro-pub to tapas to carvery to top end early bird offers and pre-theatre menus. Again, just because you don’t know about them doesn’t mean they don’t exist.



I paid €5 corkage in a restaurant on Friday. Try the BYOB places. Again, just because you don’t know about them doesn’t mean they don’t exist.



You were saying “what parks” five minutes ago. Now not only are you aware of them, but you’ve been to most of them? Pull the other one Carlingford locked :pac::pac:



? I keep telling you tourists like things like this. just because you don’t like certain experiences it doesn’t mean tourists don’t like them.



We have a temperate climate. It’s not as bad as you think it is, we don’t have to adapt our lives for extreme cold or heat.



I’ve met hundreds of tourists that love Dublin. Public transport isn’t good, but tourists mainly rely on the DART and use it off peak and at weekends, so it works out very well for them. (if you ever met a tourist in Dublin you’d know this)

We do have a temperate climate, which can sound like a pretty good thing and it is up to a certain point in terms of us avoiding major disasters. But for general comfort levels, it doesn't really mean much, I love Ireland but it is damp and the long runs of grey skies can really affect your mood.

John_Rambo

Seanachai wrote: »

We do have a temperate climate, which can sound like a pretty good thing and it is up to a certain point in terms of us avoiding major disasters. But for general comfort levels, it doesn't really mean much, I love Ireland but it is damp and the long runs of grey skies can really affect your mood.

I'll affect your mood in a positive way with my next sentence brother Rabbit.

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