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Brexit Discussion Thread VI

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  • #2912
    Peter Flynt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    I'm not seeing much condemnation on Twitter regarding the thugs around Anna Soubry & Owen Jones from those who led the brexit campaign.


  • #2913
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,315 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Enzokk wrote: »
    Do you mean this charming fellow?

    https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/1082304571580534786

    The war is on but only on a Saturday.


  • #2914
    Infini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    correct horse battery staple wrote: »
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/07/investing/brexit-banks-moving-assets/index.html



    They should put that on a side of a bus and drive it up and down the length of the country.

    To be fair they have a bus going round with Brexit is Bollocks on it though adding that to it would probabmy make it hit harder.

    Still the way things are going Im expecting at this point either A50 cancelled in the face of disaster and a never speaking of this again moment or a total disintegration of the UK in about 5 years.


  • #2915
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,433 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    To get back to ordinary people... this is a really interesting (and introspectice) article by a gay couple (one English, one Northern Irish Presbyterian) who cycled the border, and framed their journey in the context of Brexit. Doesn't really paint a pretty picture mind.

    Cycling the Border, 2018: ‘At least yous are Prods, you f**kers’

    That article went from bizarre to disturbing. Not sure if it’s exaggerated for effect but hard to believe we share the same island with some of these “characters”.


  • #2916
    brickster69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭brickster69


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Given the value of all UK assets is about £10tn, $1tn is not to be sneezed at

    It is not UK assets. They are owned by overseas banks.

    Just try to think that an American held assets in Ireland and he moved them to another country. Does that mean Ireland lost them assets ?

    FFS, you could not make it up. Next thing you know, planes wont be able to fly.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • #2917
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,128 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    brickster69 wrote: »
    It is not UK assets. They are owned by overseas banks.

    Just try to think that an American held assets in Ireland and he moved them to another country. Does that mean Ireland lost them assets ?
    How easy will it be for the UK office of those companies to remain viable when a huge chunk of their business was taken from them?


  • #2918
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    brickster69 wrote: »
    It is not UK assets. They are owned by overseas banks.

    Just try to think that an American held assets in Ireland and he moved them to another country. Does that mean Ireland lost them assets ?

    FFS, you could not make it up. Next thing you know, planes wont be able to fly.
    Ya, it'll be great craic when there's a brexit related credit crunch and there are more bank collapses on top of the collapse of the UK export industry


  • #2919
    Imreoir2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Imreoir2


    brickster69 wrote: »
    It is not UK assets. They are owned by overseas banks.

    Just try to think that an American held assets in Ireland and he moved them to another country. Does that mean Ireland lost them assets ?

    FFS, you could not make it up. Next thing you know, planes wont be able to fly.

    Sure, capital flight is just another brexit dividend. $1tn leaving the UK in response to brexit will have no negative consequences for the British economey at all.


  • #2920
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    The Lib-Dems are a no brexit party. And coincidentally are the only party to make gains in the last polls.
    Yeah they got 50% more seats in 2017 than in 2016.

    Sounds good until you remember they dropped from 57 seats to just 8 in 2016.

    Like FF here they'll be wandering around in the wilderness for a while. And their last stint in power didn't win them any friends.


  • #2921
    Anthracite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Anthracite


    Tell me how wrote: »
    They're probably viewing it more as 'freedom of speech' in the main.

    If they start arresting and citing hate speech, it could lead to claims of 'police state' from these groups and their voices in the media. K Hopkins, JHB etc.

    Messy messy environment. I wonder does the likes of Anna Soubry have some form of security? Even just a driver or someone to ensure they aren't attacked.
    She's surely more of a target and hate figure than Jo Cox ever was.


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  • #2922
    Lemming
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,148 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    correct horse battery staple wrote: »
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/07/investing/brexit-banks-moving-assets/index.html

    They should put that on a side of a bus and drive it up and down the length of the country.
    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Given the value of all UK assets is about £10tn, $1tn is not to be sneezed at

    I seem to recall an earlier-posted article today on the same $1tn being what Frankfurt estimates to gain alone through Brexit, so to look at it in perspective, it's $1tn across several EU financial centres thus far. There will be a sizeable chunk more to follow if the current course of the UK government is not altered. That's a lot of money lost by the UK either by way of bragging rights about the status of the city of London in order to attract more investment, and in tax/interest accrued. On top of obvious job losses.


  • #2923
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    Yeah they got 50% more seats in 2017 than in 2016.

    Sounds good until you remember they dropped from 57 seats to just 8 in 2016.

    Like FF here they'll be wandering around in the wilderness for a while. And their last stint in power didn't win them any friends.
    Ah yeah, that jump in the polls was worth a measly seven seats or something. The point is though, that Labour are slipping when they should be absolutely slaughtering the tories in the polls. And the lift that the Lib-Dems got is illustrative of how their brexit policy is killing them.


  • #2924
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,846 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Ah yeah, that jump in the polls was worth a measly seven seats or something. The point is though, that Labour are slipping when they should be absolutely slaughtering the tories in the polls. And the lift that the Lib-Dems got is illustrative of how their brexit policy is killing them.

    Labour's performance is abysmal and largely down to tone set from the top.


  • #2925
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    brickster69 wrote: »
    It is not UK assets. They are owned by overseas banks.

    Just try to think that an American held assets in Ireland and he moved them to another country. Does that mean Ireland lost them assets ?
    Assets generate wealth and wealth generates taxes. That's what the loss of 'them' assets means.


  • #2926
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,425 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    brickster69 wrote: »
    It is not UK assets. They are owned by overseas banks.

    Just try to think that an American held assets in Ireland and he moved them to another country. Does that mean Ireland lost them assets ?

    FFS, you could not make it up. Next thing you know, planes wont be able to fly.

    The business is asset management

    No assets under management = no business

    Fairly basic stuff


  • #2927
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Ah yeah, that jump in the polls was worth a measly seven seats or something. The point is though, that Labour are slipping when they should be absolutely slaughtering the tories in the polls. And the lift that the Lib-Dems got is illustrative of how their brexit policy is killing them.
    Lift ?

    That "lift" means the libdems don't even have a quarter of the seats they had when the referendum was first promised.


    Labour are loosing a popularity battle with May who only has 19% public support for her deal.


  • #2928
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,487 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    road_high wrote: »
    That article went from bizarre to disturbing. Not sure if it’s exaggerated for effect but hard to believe we share the same island with some of these “characters”.

    Funny how everyone said exactly what you would expect the stereotype to say. On both sides.

    Pure fantasy stuff and very exploitative.


  • #2929
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    "You ain't even fu**in British!"
    If that's what it means to be British then it's no wonder thousands want an Irish passport!

    People find a few loons and the media is all over it. They never show the genome of the leftie loons who are at that craic all the time. It's all distasteful but let's be honest the left leaning folk who are that loud could outnumber his kind 10 to 1 in the UK.


  • #2930
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,433 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Funny how everyone said exactly what you would expect the stereotype to say. On both sides.

    Pure fantasy stuff and very exploitative.

    I guess if you go looking for something you will find it. Carefully picked their conversations I sense


  • #2931
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,425 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    People find a few loons and the media is all over it. They never show the genome of the leftie loons who are at that craic all the time. It's all distasteful but let's be honest the left leaning folk who are that loud could outnumber his kind 10 to 1 in the UK.

    Should be easy enough to source a few examples so...


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  • #2932
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,487 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    road_high wrote: »
    I guess if you go looking for something you will find it. Carefully picked their conversations I sense

    Picked? I'd say they are frustrated screenwriters/playwrights with bad imaginations. :)


  • #2933
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Should be easy enough to source a few examples so...

    Go to any event and count the militant antfia


  • #2934
    brickster69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭brickster69


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Assets generate wealth and wealth generates taxes. That's what the loss of 'them' assets means.

    Yes, assets generate wealth for the holders of the assets. However tax on those profits are mostly paid back in the home nation. Which is the case for Amazon, Starbucks & Facebook etc. The normal operating margins ( commission ) on opening and closing trades for UK traders are less than 0.00??% of value traded. Tax is obviously due on that after operational expenses.

    If these companies are wanting to trade EU financial services in the UK then they will have to set up UK companies and capitalise those companies independantly.

    They are not leaving, they have to leave !

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #2935
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,062 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    brickster69 wrote: »
    Yes, assets generate wealth for the holders of the assets. However tax on those profits are mostly paid back in the home nation. Which is the case for Amazon, Starbucks & Facebook etc. The normal operating margins ( commission ) on opening and closing trades for UK traders are less than 0.00??% of value traded. Tax is obviously due on that after operational expenses.

    If these companies are wanting to trade EU financial services in the UK then they will have to set up UK companies and capitalise those companies independantly.

    They are not leaving, they have to leave !

    Tax on those profits are mostly paid back in the home nation.

    And you accused someone earlier of knowing diddly squat about financial markets.


    Joy...


  • #2936
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,235 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    People find a few loons and the media is all over it. They never show the genome of the leftie loons who are at that craic all the time. It's all distasteful but let's be honest the left leaning folk who are that loud could outnumber his kind 10 to 1 in the UK.

    Even you know you're talking absolute rubbish now.


  • #2937
    Thargor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,963 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/matt-stadlen/iain-duncan-smith-no-jobs-lost-hard-brexit/
    Iain Duncan Smith has said not a single job would be lost in a hard Brexit, insisting concerns fears of leaving with no deal are "nonsense"

    They've already hemorrhaged thousands of jobs and approaching a trillion in assets and it hasnt even started yet... These people are complete and utter lying con artists.


  • #2938
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Just a reminder .EU names can't be held by bloody foreigners.
    As of the withdrawal date, undertakings and organisations that are established in the United Kingdom but not in the EU, and natural persons who reside in the United Kingdom will no longer be eligible to register .eu domain names or, if they are .eu registrants, to renew .eu domain names registered before the withdrawal date.

    So lots of fun and games

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/07/brit_eu_domain_owners/
    British citizens with a .eu domain should buy a dotcom replacement and lawyer up, the UK government has formally advised.

    In official guidance put out over the Christmas break, the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) warned that "if you currently hold a .eu registration… you should consider transferring your registration to another top level domain… Examples of other top level domains include .com, .co.uk, .net or .org."


  • #2939
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,128 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    People find a few loons and the media is all over it. They never show the genome of the leftie loons who are at that craic all the time. It's all distasteful but let's be honest the left leaning folk who are that loud could outnumber his kind 10 to 1 in the UK.
    "Hey everyone, don't look here, look over there"


  • #2940
    mickoneill31
    Registered Users Posts: 855 ✭✭✭mickoneill31


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    Go to any event and count the militant antfia

    So in the age of everybody having a smartphone and social media to get proof of your claims we have to go to an event to see the militant moron lefties.
    It's just an unlucky coincidence that the videos we see all over the place are the militant moron guys on the right.

    Do you even believe the stuff you're typing yourself?


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  • #2941
    Thomas_IV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭Thomas_IV


    Peter Flynt wrote: »
    I'm not seeing much condemnation on Twitter regarding the thugs around Anna Soubry & Owen Jones from those who led the brexit campaign.

    Wasn't the first time she got harassed and complained about it publicly. But this doesn't bother the Police nor does it bother the 'infamous' PM May and her cabinet which created and nurished the hostile environment set out to make foreign nationals leave the UK but also includes every anti-Brexit person.

    The Brexiteers will certainly and finally achieve the break up of the UK itself and even that's not what they want, it's what they'll get in the end. It is just a matter of time as by their delusions they'll most certainly crash out of the EU with no deal, unless commonsense prevails at the very last minute.


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