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Body of a newborn found on Balbriggan beach

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    The Hill Billy
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    Tragic. My heart goes out to those involved. :(


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    catrionanic
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    I don't live a million miles away, and have a newborn baby. I've been particularly affected by this story as a result.

    I will never understand why the women leave the babies in places like this. Why can't they leave them somewhere where they may get discovered and be kept alive? You could leave that baby on the doorstep of almost any household in the country and it would be cared for. Oh how I wish she had left the baby on my doorstep instead.

    So so tragic.


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    eviltwin
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    It's awful to think of a woman delivering a baby in such circumstances that she feels her only option is to abandon it. We don't know the background and if it even was the mother who left it or if the child was even alive. I'm sure she is terrified


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    T-Maxx
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    Whatever about her circumstances - I hope she's found and prosecuted.


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    godtabh
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    T-Maxx wrote: »
    Whatever about her circumstances - I hope she's found and prosecuted.

    Have some hearth. This couldn’t have been easy for her


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    NSAman
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    Have the Gaurds questioned Johanna Hayes yet?

    Seriously, sad state of affairs if the people involved think this is the only option available to them. RIP little one.


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    Bubblegummers
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    RIP baby, but I think people need to consider someone’s mental health. Nobody willingly leaves their child while in their right frame of mind, I hope she is found safely.


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    John_Rambo
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    T-Maxx wrote: »
    Whatever about her circumstances - I hope she's found and prosecuted.


    Whatever her circumstances - I hope she's found alive and gets the help she needs. Hopefully lessons can be learnt to stop this type of thing happening again.

    Try to maintain a bit of dignity and empathy next time T-maxx.


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    Bubblegummers
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    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Whatever her circumstances - I hope she's found alive and gets the help she needs. Hopefully lessons can be learnt to stop this type of thing happening again.

    Try to maintain a bit of dignity and empathy next time T-maxx.

    A lot of people on this board must come from families with everything intact and no issues to be able to call for the mother’s head.

    I suffer from severe depression where I’ve spent time inside units that no person ever wants to see, and spoke to more doctors then sits in the mater hospital. Mental Ill health is frightening and I can say with all certainty this mother is suffering just that.


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    Sleeper12
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    koutoubia wrote:
    Really thought these days were consigned to the dark past but painfully not.


    Almost word for word from my wife a few hours ago on this.


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    Wesser
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    For those of you who are being harsh on the mother. Just to.point it it's very possible she has a mental illness which is not her fault.


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    Dizzyblonde
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    Such a tragedy, hopefully they'll find the mother and give her the help she needs. We have no idea just how hard life is for some people.
    RIP little baby.


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    ted1
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    T-Maxx wrote: »
    Whatever about her circumstances - I hope she's found and prosecuted.

    Disgusting comment. Some where out there, there is a girl or lady in distress.

    The baby may have been still born you have no idea what went on


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    The Hill Billy
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    Mod note: Out of respect for those involved in this tragedy, we would ask members to refrain from posting speculation.

    tHB


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    [Deleted User]
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    Wesser wrote: »
    For those of you who are being harsh on the mother. Just to.point it it's very possible she has a mental illness which is not her fault.

    To be fair you could say any one who commits against another person must have mental issues. Why only women?


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    Wesser
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    Of course there are some who murder others who are deemed guilty but insane. Happens from time to time. There is a higher Incidence of psychiatric disease around the time of pregnancy.

    Even if not she must have been fairly distressed to have done what she did. So I do not support the previous posters call to.prosecute her


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    Dizzyblonde
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    To be fair you could say any one who commits against another person must have mental issues. Why only women?

    This thread is specifically about a woman who more than likely gave birth alone and possibly on a beach, in winter. It's not the sort of thing you would do if you felt you had any other option.

    Nobody is saying "only women".


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    Sleeper12
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    To be fair you could say any one who commits against another person must have mental issues. Why only women?


    As far as I can see onl;ine no one knows what happened yet. It could have been a stillbirth or died of natural causes after birth. The mother could be greif struck. The mother could be as young as 13.



    There are many possibilities & it's a little early to be starting this conversation imo


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    T-Maxx
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    ted1 wrote:
    Disgusting comment. Some where out there, there is a girl or lady in distress.

    The baby may have been still born you have no idea what went on

    I don't know the facts and neither do you. What I do know is that if she went to a hospital the baby might still be alive.


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    eviltwin
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    T-Maxx wrote: »
    I don't know the facts and neither do you. What I do know is that if she went to a hospital the baby might still be alive.

    And maybe there is a good reason why she didn't, or couldn't, have the baby in a hospital.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Dizzyblonde wrote: »
    This thread is specifically about a woman who more than likely gave birth alone and possibly on a beach, in winter. It's not the sort of thing you would do if you felt you had any other option.

    Nobody is saying "only women".

    Sure. But you don't know. But the defaulting position when women commit atrocity is mental illness.


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    splinter65
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    catrionanic wrote: »
    I don't live a million miles away, and have a newborn baby. I've been particularly affected by this story as a result.

    I will never understand why the women leave the babies in places like this. Why can't they leave them somewhere where they may get discovered and be kept alive? You could leave that baby on the doorstep of almost any household in the country and it would be cared for. Oh how I wish she had left the baby on my doorstep instead.

    So so tragic.

    We have no idea who left the baby there or why.


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    splinter65
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    godtabh wrote: »
    Have some hearth. This couldn’t have been easy for her

    I can never understand why people jump to conclusions and assumptions about these news stories. Sure we have no idea what happened yet.


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    splinter65
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    T-Maxx wrote: »
    Whatever about her circumstances - I hope she's found and prosecuted.

    She might be 10. She might be dead. She might be lying somewhere gravely ill. But let’s get a lynch mob ready just in case.


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    Ultimate Seduction
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    To be fair you could say any one who commits against another person must have mental issues. Why only women?

    Was about to post same. Anyone who commits murder is insane. This woman is a murderer


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    splinter65
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    T-Maxx wrote: »
    I don't know the facts and neither do you. What I do know is that if she went to a hospital the baby might still be alive.

    You have no idea if she was in a hospital or not. She may have left the hospital with a live baby. You know nothing but you are judging pointing and condemning away like crazy.


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    Becks610
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Was about to post same. Anyone who commits murder is insane. This woman is a murderer

    Baby could have been still born. That is not a woman’s fault- surely you know that.


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    splinter65
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Was about to post same. Anyone who commits murder is insane. This woman is a murderer

    You’ve decided that a woman has committed murder.
    What grounds have you to come to this conclusion?


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    AtomicHorror
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    T-Maxx wrote: »
    I don't know the facts and neither do you. What I do know is that if she went to a hospital the baby might still be alive.

    If we take that at face value, how does this knowledge of what might have been back up your claim that someone should be prosecuted? You can't prosecute someone merely for not going to a hospital, regardless of the outcome of that decision.

    I think you had a strong reaction to this story, which is understandable, but you let that become unhelpful and misdirected anger very quickly. You can and should step back from that.
    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Was about to post same. Anyone who commits murder is insane. This woman is a murderer

    This is very depressing.


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    Bubblegummers
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Was about to post same. Anyone who commits murder is insane. This woman is a murderer

    You need your head looked at.


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