Strokestown **Mod Note in Post #4461**

gandalf

cameramonkey wrote: »

I dont get embarrassed by anonymous posters on the internet but thank you for your concern.

You're as bad as poor sod who thinks The Field was a ode to land ownership and farming.

gandalf

cameramonkey wrote: »

Given that the Garda are finding it hard to find any dog corpses, i dont think that would happen.

Really where did you hear that?

cameramonkey

facehugger99 wrote: »

The only obvious assault is you getting your arse handed to you.

Do you considered these internet exchanges an assault? You have a very aggressive mind set if so. Very strange.

cameramonkey

martingriff wrote: »

Yes they have and there is a whole lot more and longer then what was shown on facebook

When did they hand them to the Garda? Was it the full unedited footage. Can you provide a link? How do you know this?

gandalf

cameramonkey wrote: »

Do you considered these internet exchanges an assault? You have a very aggressive mins set if so. Very strange.

Well it's more of an assault than what happened to Kevin Taylor LOL

Maybe you should set up a gofundmepage for his medical costs

€1 for a plaster
€2 for a pack of wipes
€100 to repair the pothole he created on the road outside the farm caused by his tantrum dive.

gandalf

cameramonkey wrote: »

When did they hand them to the Garda? Was it the full unedited footage. Can you provide a link? How do you know this?

It's been reported by a number of papers.

cameramonkey

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I haven't made any claims that anyone was assaulted

Meanwhile you have claimed henhad a busted nose (minor nose bleed) and missing teeth.

Still waiting to see this busted nose and missing teeth that YOU have claimed.

I said it was 2 alleged assaults and I said it was reported he lost teeth. I dont know what happend, is it so bad to seek answers to what happened? you seem to have made your mind up that no assaults took place.

cameramonkey

gandalf wrote: »

It's been reported by a number of papers.

Do you have a link?

gandalf

cameramonkey wrote: »

Do you have a link?

Google is your friend.

mynamejeff

gandalf wrote: »

Those two lads in Castlerea were journalists?

Again if this lad was a real journalist he would not have ponied up his laptop and phone. We have had cases of journalists here in Ireland going to jail to protect their sources.

i dont think so but unsurprisingly the older man in castlerea again had close links to the land league and integrity Ireland nutters

so coming from the pub and is asked by a passing cop if they saw anything
interrelation to a breakin up the road

the end result is three in hospital and a protest march . wonder what really happened there

martingriff

cameramonkey wrote: »

When did they hand them to the Garda? Was it the full unedited footage. Can you provide a link? How do you know this?

Gardai have said it

weldoninhio

simongurnick wrote: »

so how do you know what they were preventing him from doing? more horse****e

Because he is still kicking out in the video when the third guy holds his legs. And once he calms down they let him get to his feet and escort him off the property.

JCJCJC

cameramonkey wrote: »

Do you considered these internet exchanges an assault? You have a very aggressive mind set if so. Very strange.

assault is defined in the 1997 Act as:


2.—(1) A person shall be guilty of the offence of assault who, without lawful excuse, intentionally or recklessly—

(a) directly or indirectly applies force to or causes an impact on the body of another, or... etc.

The Court Messenger and Bailiffs had lawful excuse. No assault took place. Nobody’s head was bust open. The supporter who filmed the ejectment on his phone made the case for the Bailiffs.

cameramonkey

gandalf wrote: »

Well it more of an assault than what happened to Kevin Taylor LOL

Maybe you should set up a gofundmepage for his medical costs

€1 for a plaster
€2 for a pack of wipes
€100 to repair the pothole he created on the road outside the farm caused by his tantrum dive.

Who is Kevin Taylor?



I see that you are not really serious about trying to understand what actually happened , you seem by happy to sneer and play the corner boy.

cameramonkey

JCJCJC wrote: »

assault is defined in the 1997 Act as:


2.—(1) A person shall be guilty of the offence of assault who, without lawful excuse, intentionally or recklessly—

(a) directly or indirectly applies force to or causes an impact on the body of another, or... etc.

The Court Messenger and Bailiffs had lawful excuse. No assault took place. Nobody’s head was bust open. The supporter who filmed the ejectment on his phone made the case for the Bailiffs.

Just because it wasn't filmed does not mean there were no assaults. The alleged assaults on the security teams were not filmed, does that mean they did not take place? You should be consistent with your points.

gandalf

cameramonkey wrote: »

Who is Kevin Taylor?



I see that you are not really serious about trying to understand what actually happened , you seem by happy to sneer and play the corner boy.

FFS that's the Ex Garda's name! You really are clueless aren't you.

No I mocking the fact that you are continuing the delusion that an assault took place because it ruins the narrative you want.

cameramonkey

gandalf wrote: »

Google is your friend.

So you cant post a link, maybe you shouldn't post if you cant back it up.

weldoninhio

cameramonkey wrote: »

Just because it wasn't filmed does not mean there were no assaults. The alleged assaults on the security teams were not filmed, does that mean they did not take place? You should be consistent with your points.

As stated before, they all had body cams on. So it was recorded. It just wasn’t put up on Facebook, much the same way if a Tesco is robbed they don’t upload the footage online straight away. It’s not how professional businesses work and could be inadmissible in court if spread online before any court case.

McMurphy

martingriff wrote: »

Gardai have said it

The gardai also said they breathalysed a million people more than their calibration activity suggested.

A cool million.

gandalf

cameramonkey wrote: »

So you cant post a link, maybe you shouldn't post if you cant back it up.

LOL says the lad who didn't even know the name of the Ex-Garda....

cameramonkey

gandalf wrote: »

FFS that's the Ex Garda's name! You really are clueless aren't you.

No I mocking the fact that you are continuing the delusion that an assault took place because it ruins the narrative you want.

I have no narrative in mind, I would like to understand what happened.You seem to get excited and make claims and then cant back it up with links. Then your language gets aggressive and you try to demean other posters because they dont agree with you.

weldoninhio

cameramonkey wrote: »

So you cant post a link, maybe you shouldn't post if you cant back it up.

Gardaí say they expect to interview up to another 15 men in the coming days, after they complete a trawl through video footage from body cameras worn by the security guards.

dompedro

excessive flaming on this topic.

blanch152

cameramonkey wrote: »

Why are the Garda investigating two alleged assaults carried out during the eviction if nothing untoward happened?

Are they investigating it? A complaint was made, from the evidence we have all seen, there was no assault. I would say the investigation is already done and dusted.

In the other investigation, it seems two arrests have already been made.

Based on that, which incident do you think the Gardai are taking more seriously?

Edgware

cameramonkey wrote: »

I take that as a no then. So why is it Ok to bust the ex copper's head and not yours?

Because he put himself in the way of getting a slap. As an ex cop he should know it's an offence to obstruct court orders

cameramonkey

weldoninhio wrote: »

As stated before, they all had body cams on. So it was recorded. It just wasn’t put up on Facebook, much the same way if a Tesco is robbed they don’t upload the footage online straight away. It’s not how professional businesses work and could be inadmissible in court if spread online before any court case.

Where is this report coming from? Are you saying that they all had body cams and all the footage has been given to the garda? I haven't seen any reports.

cameramonkey

cameramonkey wrote: »

Just because it wasn't filmed does not mean there were no assaults. The alleged assaults on the security teams were not filmed, does that mean they did not take place? You should be consistent with your points.

They were filmed by the security teams bodycams which were handed over to the Gardai.

cameramonkey

gandalf wrote: »

LOL says the lad who didn't even know the name of the Ex-Garda....

No link then. You should not claim things that you cant back up.

cameramonkey

Deleted User wrote: »

They were filmed by the security teams bodycams which were handed over to the Gardai.

Link?

gandalf

cameramonkey wrote: »

I have no narrative in mind, I would like to understand what happened.You seem to get excited and make claims and then cant back it up with links. Then your language gets aggressive and you try to demean other posters because they dont agree with you.

No you are claiming a phantom assault mate when it is absolutely obvious that none has not occurred. Even the footage supplied by the anti-eviction "friends" of Anthony McGann (that's the defaulter btw just so you know) does not show any assault. It shows legal contractors executing a High Court order on behalf of KBC bank to take rightful ownership of a property.

weldoninhio

cameramonkey wrote: »

No link then. You should not claim things that you cant back up.

I copied and pasted the relevant paragraph from the news report about 5/7 posts up. It is backed up ffs.

blanch152

cameramonkey wrote: »

No link then. You should not claim things that you cant back up.

Do you have a link to the Gardai confirming that they are still investigating two alleged assaults? Do you have a link to a picture of the broken teeth?

cameramonkey wrote: »

I said it was 2 alleged assaults and I said it was reported he lost teeth. I dont know what happend, is it so bad to seek answers to what happened? you seem to have made your mind up that no assaults took place.

You should not claim things that you can't back up.

gandalf

cameramonkey wrote: »

No link then. You should not claim things that you cant back up.

Given you didn't even know the name of the poor victim you were eulogising about I'd say the facts would be wasted on you

Edgware

cameramonkey wrote: »

So you cant post a link, maybe you shouldn't post if you cant back it up.

Does your Mammy know you are at the magic machine?

hurler32

This wouldn’t happen in Fine Gaels heartlands of South Dublin but once people are outside the greater Dublin area Fine Gael couldn’t give a toss!!

Closedown Rural Ireland Vote Fine Gael !!

cameramonkey

Edgware wrote: »

Because he put himself in the way of getting a slap. As an ex cop he should know it's an offence to obstruct court orders

So according to you we was slapped, That I would think constitutes and assault. Have you a link to where that was reported?

cameramonkey

hurler32 wrote: »

This wouldn’t happen in Fine Gaels heartlands of South Dublin but once people are outside the greater Dublin area Fine Gael couldn’t give a toss!!

Closedown Rural Ireland Vote Fine Gael !!

The most important in FG would not bother paying their debts, they can get the banks to write them off.

blanch152

cameramonkey wrote: »

The most important in FG would not bother paying their debts, they can get the banks to write them off.

Have you found any links yet to back up your outlandish claims?

cameramonkey

gandalf wrote: »

Given you didn't even know the name of the poor victim you were eulogising about I'd say the facts would be wasted on you

How was I eulogising him? As you dont seem to be able to back up you statements with a link can i presume that you cant find one?

blanch152

cameramonkey wrote: »

The most important in FG would not bother paying their debts, they can get the banks to write them off.

Link?

cameramonkey

cameramonkey wrote: »

The most important in FG would not bother paying their debts, they can get the banks to write them off.

Link?

cameramonkey

blanch152 wrote: »

Have you found any links yet to back up your outlandish claims?

https://www.rte.ie/news/1999/0217/578-fitzgerald/

cameramonkey

Deleted User wrote: »

Link?

https://www.rte.ie/news/1999/0217/578-fitzgerald/

JCJCJC

cameramonkey wrote: »

Just because it wasn't filmed does not mean there were no assaults. The alleged assaults on the security teams were not filmed, does that mean they did not take place? You should be consistent with your points.

Remember the filming was done by the tax dodger’s sympathizers. It showed no assault. Maybe you don’t know the expression ‘hoisted by their own petard’ but it applies here.
The security men were assaulted - why else would they have been admitted to hospital.

Andycap8

hurler32 wrote: »

This wouldn’t happen in Fine Gaels heartlands of South Dublin but once people are outside the greater Dublin area Fine Gael couldn’t give a toss!!

Closedown Rural Ireland Vote Fine Gael !!

Didn't this happen on two separate occasions in Kiliney?

https://www.thejournal.ie/video-couple-evicted-from-killiney-home-after-anglo-repossession-order-422154-Apr2012/

By the way, they had more than 10 BTLs

Then there was the "battle for gorse hill" :rolleyes::rolleyes:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/vico-road-an-unlikely-setting-for-protest-against-eviction-1.2123687


the common thread here, is people who can't pay their debts losing the collateral securing those debts. Nothing more, nothing less.

cameramonkey

Edgware wrote: »

Does your Mammy know you are at the magic machine?

Is this your idea of a serious comment?

gandalf

hurler32 wrote: »

This wouldn’t happen in Fine Gaels heartlands of South Dublin but once people are outside the greater Dublin area Fine Gael couldn’t give a toss!!

Closedown Rural Ireland Vote Fine Gael !!

Bull**** I know of a number of people who have lost their homes over none payment of mortgages. All of them were genuine cases and did try to sort out the issues with the banks. All based in South Dublin and their gripes with the banks are legitimate.

Mr McGann is a parasite, he doesn't pay his taxes or his debts. He should have been turfed out years ago and people like him will make genuine cases of farmers who have tried to sort out their financial problems far more difficult. This situation will just push banks towards selling all their distressed loans to the vulture funds even quicker.

heroics

cameramonkey wrote: »

Link?

Surely you can use google at this stage. Link to the gardai having footage from bodycams

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1217/1017554-roscommon-gardai-investigation/

“Gardaí will speak to some of those who were injured and examine the footage from body cameras worn by the security guards.”

pablo128

cameramonkey wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/1999/0217/578-fitzgerald/

That's a no, then.

gandalf

Ah we're onto someone else didn't pay their debts so that exonerates Anthony again!