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Almost every position the left has, is actually just an attack on Christian beliefs?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Ask the black NFL players how they feel about free speech when they tried kneeling in support of police violence against their community and the US president and right wing media called them unpatriotic..


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    DS86DS wrote: »
    These people are doing a lot of research into the agenda of people like Zuckerberg and Soros against the general population, for the benefit of ordinary people including you.

    But you would rather side with people who would shut down your free speech and other rights you had for their agenda of control and manipulation.

    If only leftists had a brain and used it.


    Nah. Im smarter than these people. Anyone who’s mentally ill enough can scour the internet and make 3 hour videos about... (Soros, pedophiles, liberals, kalergi plan etc etc,)

    It doesnt make them smart. It makes them schizophrenic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    Nah. Im smarter than these people. Anyone who’s mentally ill enough can scour the internet and make 3 hour videos about... (Soros, pedophiles, liberals, kalergi plan etc etc,)

    It doesnt make them smart. It makes them schizophrenic.

    You like to think you're smarter when in reality all you are doing is gulliblly accepting everything the Leftist establishment tells you is fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,710 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    DS86DS wrote: »
    You like to think you're smarter when in reality all you are doing is gulliblly accepting everything the Leftist establishment tells you is fact.

    You like to think you're smarter when in reality all you are doing is gullibly accepting everything the rightist establishment tells you is fact

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    DS86DS wrote: »
    You like to think you're smarter when in reality all you are doing is gulliblly accepting everything the Leftist establishment tells you is fact.

    Ah yes. The ‘establishment’ controlled by lizard people or was it soros?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    The Western tradition of freedom is under assault from the far right who want to turn us into a theocracy like Saudi Arabia...and hence Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale.

    See how easy that is

    'Left', 'right' and 'Christian beliefs' have all become distorted by 'pick and choose' opportunist types who have an opinion and want to back it up by scripture. The Handmaid's Tale is a fable about that basically: Gilead were not interested in the ENTIRE bible (Jesus never gets mentioned other than he is assumed to be the lord who opens in their phrase) but only in the parts that 'justified' their crazy dictatorship.

    'Rightwing' has been defined as warmongering, Christian types who hold racist, sectarian or misogynist beliefs by the left. 'Leftwing' has been described as violent spreaders of communist revolution, atheist types who hold anti-business and anti-prosperity views and want all but themselves to live poor by the right. In reality, this is not true.

    Warmongering rightwingers? Yes, we can easily find them. From Hitler to John Bolton to ISIS, they are there. But what about Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot? Leftwing warmongers are also extremely common. And what about Milosevic the communist nationalist? Is he the right or the left or both? Imperialism is a rightwing thing where one race or nation looks down on the other? Yes. We have had the British, Spanish, etc. empires and the American invasions of places like Iraq. But what about the Soviet Union's empire?

    Misogyny is a rightwing thing? Sure. Real world Gileads exist like Saudi Arabia and ISIS. But what about Ceausescu and Pol Pot? Leftwing misogyny exists too.

    Christianity is a rightwing religion? Well, what about Jesus' socialist like message? Populism is defined as rightwing yet it is a very socialist even communist thing.

    Communists can never be capitalists? Well, what about China, the world's leading communist state but also one of the leading capitalist economies.

    Left and right is meaningless in other words. Evil and good has been done in both names and the reality is all systems are a mix of different traits. Extremists whether their basing their ideology on the Bible, the Koran or the writings of Karl Marx all tend to end up the same: pick and choose what they see justifies their agenda and ignore the rest. The Handmaid's Tale and other Margaret Atwood dystopian novels are driving that point home. She even went as far as to say this in talks about all the regimes throughout the world that inspired Handmaid's and concluded all fanatic regimes are the same. It is obvious whether one faced a leftwing Khmer Rouge terrorist or a rightwing ISIS terrorist, one's life would be 100% in danger. Make no mistake about it though, there are and will always be fanatics out there who will want to take away people's freedom to set up their own regimes and use some ideology from right, left, religion or atheistic theory to do so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    Ah yes. The ‘establishment’ controlled by lizard people or was it soros?

    David Icke is not left wing or right wing. His politics are informed above all by the belief that the human race is led by alien lizards with a shape shifting ability who are on earth to mine mono-atomic gold and are indifferent to our interests.

    If Icke is indeed as he claims the son of the Godhead than he has a clear responsibility to inform us of this.

    We may laugh at this idea (what the lizards would want I suggest ...) but let me just say ...

    Maybe V is not mere entertainment but a warning to us all

    In a world where leftist trash like the inbetweeners , cash in the attic, nationwide and the ploughing championship goes on and on and on and on

    why was V cancelled

    No one knows


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Why was the remake of V cancelled?

    Because it was crap.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    More V, more Morena Baccarin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,171 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Did....... Did someone link to David Icke as a credible/valid viewpoint?


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    David Icke is not left wing or right wing. His politics are informed above all by the belief that the human race is led by alien lizards with a shape shifting ability who are on earth to mine mono-atomic gold and are indifferent to our interests.

    If Icke is indeed as he claims the son of the Godhead than he has a clear responsibility to inform us of this.

    We may laugh at this idea (what the lizards would want I suggest ...) but let me just say ...

    Maybe V is not mere entertainment but a warning to us all

    In a world where leftist trash like the inbetweeners , cash in the attic, nationwide and the ploughing championship goes on and on and on and on

    why was V cancelled

    No one knows

    Is this parody?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Leftist, Liberals, Late Late Show, Leitrim.

    What do the have in common? the letter L

    What begins with the letter L?...Lizard People.

    Wake up sheeple!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    dav3 wrote: »
    Leftist, Liberals, Late Late Show, Leitrim.

    What do the have in common? the letter L

    What begins with the letter L?...Lizard People.

    Wake up sheeple!!!

    That's sinister


  • Site Banned Posts: 160 ✭✭dermo888


    batgoat wrote: »
    At one point, Icke believed himself to be the messiah. He believes the world is run by lizard people. The man most likely had a mental break decades ago and there is nothing credible about what he says, it's pretty sad tbh. But he is not engaging in research.

    The same goes for other assorted crazies, such as Alex Jones, and Stefan Molyneux.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Sooner or later it always comes back to Moonbases, Lizard people, inter-dimensional vampires and David Icke.

    Really makes you think.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Sooner or later it always comes back to Moonbases, Lizard people, inter-dimensional vampires and David Icke.

    Really makes you think.

    It's the Rand Corporation in conjunction with the Saucer People under the supervision of the Reverse Vampires.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭Rawr


    It's the Rand Corporation in conjunction with the Saucer People under the supervision of the Reverse Vampires.

    We're Through the Looking-Glass here people....


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    realtalk, how much LSD would one need to consume to reach David Icke levels of creativity (mental illness) ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Did....... Did someone link to David Icke as a credible/valid viewpoint?

    This is happening more and more these days. You even see it here where people post long videos of youtubers ranting about stuff beyond their areas of expertise.

    Years ago, if someone used Icke or Alex Jones to make a point, they'd be laughed out of it. Now, everyone has the internet and a lot of angry young people and angry old people are having difficulty telling the difference between experts in their field and some crank who uses big words on a well produced youtube channel giving out about the left.

    It's impressive when you think that we have all this knowledge at our fingertips and a sizeable proportion of the population willingly choose to be misinformed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    It's impressive when you think that we have all this knowledge at our fingertips and a sizeable proportion of the population willingly choose to be misinformed.

    That sums it up beautifully.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    I blame the Youtube algorithms that take you slightly down the rabbit hole with each video. You start out with someone vaguely out there and conspiracy theory minded like Joe Rogan and ten videos later you’re listening to David Icke or Alex Jones explain that jews are secretly lizard demons who want to eat your babies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    I blame the Youtube algorithms that take you slightly down the rabbit hole with each video. You start out with someone vaguely out there and conspiracy theory minded like Joe Rogan and ten videos later you’re listening to David Icke or Alex Jones explain that jews are secretly lizard demons who want to eat your babies.

    The last tome I watched a Joe Rogan video was about a year ago where Leah Remini was being interviewed. I still have conspiracy theories and alt-right nonsense in my suggestions and I don't watch anything remotely like that. It's mostly gaming stuff that I watch and of course old music videos when I'm drunk.

    It's a shame too because whatever about Joe Rogan's expertise, some of his interviews are excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,118 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    I blame the Youtube algorithms that take you slightly down the rabbit hole with each video. You start out with someone vaguely out there and conspiracy theory minded like Joe Rogan and ten videos later you’re listening to David Icke or Alex Jones explain that jews are secretly lizard demons who want to eat your babies.

    Yep youtube is encouraging this big time

    https://www.dublininquirer.com/2019/01/30/niamh-irish-right-wing-youtubers-seem-to-be-following-an-alt-right-playbook

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-youtube-pulled-these-men-down-a-vortex-of-far-right-hate

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad



    Irish Right-Wing YouTubers Seem to Be Following an Alt-Right Playbook

    I think this goes for all people who are generally incapable of thinking for themselves. Both left or right of the gimp axis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    The thing about these YouTube channels is that because their voices have been shut out by the Leftist Mainstream Media, they end up being holed out on stream sites, with nobody to challenge their views.

    Right wing YouTube channels have gained massive popularity in recent years. Whereas Left Wing channels are non entities. Why? Because no matter how crazy their views, they seem to always have a voice on TV/Radio/Newspapers, no matter how deranged their views are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    Reason why alternative view points do well on YouTube and other sites is because those that control the world behind the scenes use the mainstream media to brainwash and manipulate the masses. Depending on how open minded the individual is, viewing and researching these alternative media outlets allows that person to go down the rabbit hole and see for themselves how the world is really controlled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,710 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    The thing about these YouTube channels is that because their voices have been shut out by the Leftist Mainstream Media, they end up being holed out on stream sites, with nobody to challenge their views.

    Right wing YouTube channels have gained massive popularity in recent years. Whereas Left Wing channels are non entities. Why? Because no matter how crazy their views, they seem to always have a voice on TV/Radio/Newspapers, no matter how deranged their views are.

    It's beacuse their rationing behind said viewpoints is usually unpublishable. Unless you happen to be the editor of the Daily Mail. Other editors insistv on some form of logic.

    Whereas on YouTube, there's little to no moderation or fact-checking.

    Case in point: you can't actually make your point without a blind 'leftist' accusation. How about some specifics, Richard?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,159 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    The thing about these YouTube channels is that because their voices have been shut out by the Leftist Mainstream Media, they end up being holed out on stream sites, with nobody to challenge their views.

    Right wing YouTube channels have gained massive popularity in recent years. Whereas Left Wing channels are non entities. Why? Because no matter how crazy their views, they seem to always have a voice on TV/Radio/Newspapers, no matter how deranged their views are.


    Thats because the far right lost the second world war.


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