Why doesnt Dublin have a proper christmas market?

RasTa

The ones over here are horrible, packed yokes selling the biggest load of overpriced tat ever. This manc sums them up well but he is a bit moany. Although they have being packed for the past 2 weeks now so must be cleaning up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dp0PuSqJ5s

r93kaey5p2izun

If there's any risk it would turn out like the soulless, depressing borefest down near CHQ a few years ago, then we're better off without. I think Dublin really fails at Christmas tbh and I feel sorry for anyone coming here with expectations of a great Christmas experience.

lawred2

RasTa wrote: »

The ones over here are horrible, packed yokes selling the biggest load of overpriced tat ever. This manc sums them up well but he is a bit moany. Although they have being packed for the past 2 weeks now so must be cleaning up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dp0PuSqJ5s

miserable knob

wakka12

RasTa wrote: »

The ones over here are horrible, packed yokes selling the biggest load of overpriced tat ever. This manc sums them up well but he is a bit moany. Although they have being packed for the past 2 weeks now so must be cleaning up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dp0PuSqJ5s

I know hes just trying to be helpful but nobody goes to christmas markets for good value gluewein and bratwursts, everyone knows theres places in the same cities with better quality wine and hot dogs or whatever for better value but the point is its in a fun little cute christmassy atmospheric market village that you can spend the evening at

L1011

I usually end up on holiday somewhere with Christmas markets in early December every year, even without trying. The standard thing is that you wander around for ages, have some awful mulled wine - usually laced with the local cheap liqueur too, maybe buy some marzipan and generally "feel Christmassy". I've never bought anything dearer than the laced mulled wine, which is normally awful

But it gets tourists in at a time of year that's otherwise death for tourism. Its not why I go to those cities but there are people (my mother) who do.

Peter Flynt

lawred2 wrote: »

miserable knob

He's an absolute knob end with his "somewhere in the EU" brexiteer bollocks.

He does raise an issue though which is worth considering and that is the relative price of Xmas market food (as opposed to local produce) and the quality of food served.

Christmas markets are not a British/Irish thing. They're predominantly German which have now spread across the continent. . . Indeed the same could be said for Xmas itself.

If Xmas markets are going to succeed then prices have to match those in Germany where €2.50 for a mulled wine and €3-4 for a bratwurst are normal prices.

prinzeugen

They are hipster crap though. The food is awful. Nothing "craft" about it. Mass produced crap for the stupid. The same suppliers are at the Bray air show. Muck.

And "Artisan" ! Dont get me started on that. They should Google the definition of artisan.

Working in a Subway on a J1 in the US does not make you an artisan sandwich maker!

Chinasea

Because Dublin City Council have granted permits to the dodgiest stalls all along Henry Street, selling nothing but fake, landfill rubbish.

The whole thing stinks. Corruption/intimidation is obviously rife.

lawred2

Chinasea wrote: »

Because Dublin City Council have granted permits to the dodgiest stalls all along Henry Street, selling nothing but fake, landfill rubbish.

The whole thing stinks. Corruption/intimidation is obviously rife.

I always wonder about that.. it's just stall after stall of clearly counterfeit goods... We've a strange attitude to law and order in Ireland.

road_high

lawred2 wrote: »

I always wonder about that.. it's just stall after stall of clearly counterfeit goods... We've a strange attitude to law and order in Ireland.

Me too...you hear of customs or whoever doing seizures of fake goods- that are openly on sale on the country’s main shopping street! Beside shops selling the same non fake stuff

antodeco

There was one a few years ago in the kilmainham gardens. As has been mentioned previously, it's the cost of everything at it that puts people off. Hot chocolate: €6. Do you want marshmallows? Another €2 (for small paper cups so not these giant fancy looking things).
Photo with santa? €25

abcabc123123

L1011 wrote: »

Because we don't have a suitable central open space for one. If College Green ever gets done we will

Smithfield...?

Peter Flynt

abcabc123123 wrote: »

Smithfield...?

Smithfield is perfect for an all year around enclosed market which would not only help local businesses but boost tourism and Dublin as a whole. . . There are many similar markets in Florence and other major Italian/European cities.

But getting the dumb asses which pass for government in Ireland to act on that . . . That's a near impossibility.

Pkiernan

They're terrorist magnets nowadays.

wakka12

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Smithfield is perfect for an all year around enclosed market which would not only help local businesses but boost tourism and Dublin as a whole. . . There are many similar markets in Florence and other major Italian/European cities.

But getting the dumb asses which pass for government in Ireland to act on that . . . That's a near impossibility.

Newmarket was also another obvious place that had one and now its been evicted, when it should have been given a nice purpose built facility

For some reason Dublin just doesnt do markets, they are such a nice thing that thrive in most western cities but we just cant seem to do it

Arthur Daley

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Smithfield is perfect for an all year around enclosed market which would not only help local businesses but boost tourism and Dublin as a whole. . . There are many similar markets in Florence and other major Italian/European cities.

But getting the dumb asses which pass for government in Ireland to act on that . . . That's a near impossibility.

Yes indoor markets like the one in Florence or Madrid would be perfect in Smithfield. Or the CHQ building. With a space for music/buskers to play. But the vinters and others would probably lobby to object and prevent it ever happening.

jos28

+1 for the Flea Market at the Point. I'd love to see it become a more permanent fixture. Some great stalls with crafts/artists/food/gifts. Very well organised and a great vibe around the place.

lawred2

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Yes indoor markets like the one in Florence or Madrid would be perfect in Smithfield. Or the CHQ building. With a space for music/buskers to play. But the vinters and others would probably lobby to object and prevent it ever happening.

Can even come closer to home for examples i.e. Cork's English market

Peter Flynt

lawred2 wrote: »

Can even come closer to home for examples i.e. Cork's English market

Cork's English market is small relative to others.

markpb

Pkiernan wrote: »

They're terrorist magnets nowadays.

Hyperbolé much?

markpb

Pkiernan wrote: »

They're terrorist magnets nowadays.

Hyperbolé much?

L1011

abcabc123123 wrote: »

Smithfield...?

Not central. Neither is Newmarket

lawred2

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Cork's English market is small relative to others.

Not sure what your point is

Does that make it any less a successful indoor market?

Stephen15

Christmas markets are crap. Full of tat that can probably be picked in a pound shop for a fraction of the price and the usual Bratwurst, mulled wine, chocolate fountain nonsense.

Peter Flynt

Stephen15 wrote: »

Christmas markets are crap. Full of tat that can probably be picked in a pound shop for a fraction of the price and the usual Bratwurst, mulled wine, chocolate fountain nonsense.

Yea. . . too right.

Who needs mulled wine & bratwurst when you've got wrapping paper and toblerones?