Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018/2019 **warning in OP 24/2/19**

yourdeadwright

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Anyone else here think ole is the perfect fit

That's the big question now ,

Is it that Ole is the perfect fit for United or is it that Jose was just that bad ,

Be very interesting to see if the players see Ole as the long term manger or at they just enjoying the fact that Jose is gone and they have more freedom to play .
Remember a lot of those players had something to prove as soon as Jose left , He blamed them so they had to go out and prove him wrong to basically show the fans look it was him not us ,

Ole obviously deserve huge credit since he has been in charge but I think the big test is when the lose a game and when they hit a sticky patch, I think that's when everyone will learn how good Ole is,

yourdeadwright

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I can't make that call yet.

I don't know what he is like at setting a team up in big matches to counter big threats.
I don't know what he is like dealing with problems at the club.
I don't know what he is like identifying players who should be sold.
I don't know what he is like identifying players who should be replaced in the first 11.
I don't know what he is like identifying players who should be bought.
I don't know what he is like adjusting to changes in a match (Spurs changed approach and hammered at us for 30 mins).

I don't see how people could say he is a perfect fit based on just these 7 games. There are so many unanswered questions.

RDM won the CL with Chelsea, getting a great bounce off a dejected but talented squad isn't proof of being a perfect fit.

I think your spot on, lets be fair Jose was so bad people forgot how many good players Uited have especially attacking wise,

At the start of the season you'd mark down 6 of them games as United wins, Spurs being the one you wouldn't be surprised if they lost or drew ,

Ole done amazing so far as good as anyone could , Infact you can't knock him for anything at all, He really has been flawless

The tests for Ol are yet to come but he could pass them with ease who's to know,only time will tell ,

DARK-KNIGHT

I mean the whole package he brings

The feel good factor
Attacking football
We seem to be fearless now
His love of the club
Love for the fans
The run of games we have had

I think if he is doing the job well it would be a massive risk hiring someone else

He has dragged the club back from the depths

Adamocovic

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I can't make that call yet.

I don't know what he is like at setting a team up in big matches to counter big threats.
I don't know what he is like dealing with problems at the club.
I don't know what he is like identifying players who should be sold.
I don't know what he is like identifying players who should be replaced in the first 11.
I don't know what he is like identifying players who should be bought.
I don't know what he is like adjusting to changes in a match (Spurs changed approach and hammered at us for 30 mins).

I don't see how people could say he is a perfect fit based on just these 7 games. There are so many unanswered questions.

RDM won the CL with Chelsea, getting a great bounce off a dejected but talented squad isn't proof of being a perfect fit.

I agree that it is way to early to deem him a "perfect fit" for us.

Maybe could say for our situation and needs right now perhaps he is the perfect fit, but going forward who knows.

Signs are promising though and we'll see how it goes. I know I've mentioned it before but David Beckham called it back in 2011, so United probably have been keeping an eye on his career after he left the club. I'd love it to work out.

yourdeadwright

How do you lads think he will approach the City and Liverpool games,

Will he have United attack like they have been doing or go for a more defensive approach

Playing attacking football and having runner may fall right into City and Liverpool's hands .

I know you beat Spurs but in the second half tactic's didn't really work , It was De Gea and poor finishing that got you over the line ,

damowill

Is Ole good enough for the job longterm? Time will tell however, the dogs on the street know we need serious investment. Be it Ole or whoever the next manager is, they need to be given the funds to seriously improve our team

We have a bunch of good players and a bunch of bang average players, as well has having a few that simply arent good enough.

I think Ole & Jose both realised our weaknesses, Jose tried to mask those deficiencies by being defensive. Ole is trying to hide those weakness by playing to our strengths, playing attacking football where the attackers are now free to express themselves. It will be interesting to see if we can maintain this level of performance for the remainder of the season.

GSPfan

I skipped the last few days pages so sorry if this was already mentioned but I’ve only just realised that Spurs are currently without Kane, Alli, Son, Moura due to injury and international duty. That’s devastating for them.

They have to play Chelsea soon to get through to a final they could possibly win but this could ruin them.

Also, this has to be slightly annoying to Poch to be at a club that are going to be cash strapped for another few years due to the new stadium.

We cannot rule out catching Spurs, Chelsea, and Arsenal now. That’s mental compared to it being unthinkable last month.

damowill

yourdeadwright wrote: »

How do you lads think he will approach the City and Liverpool games,

Will he have United attack like they have been doing or go for a more defensive approach

Playing attacking football and having runner may fall right into City and Liverpool's hands .

I know you beat Spurs but in the second half tactic's didn't really work , It was De Gea and poor finishing that got you over the line ,

Last year we nullified Liverpools threat easily enough. however under Ole we do play a much more attacking game. we tend to start really well and peg teams back & put them under a lot of pressure. our finishes to games hasnt been the best. not sure if its the teams fitness or tactics, but if we cant maintain the same level throughout against liverpool we could be in trouble.

yourdeadwright

damowill wrote: »

Last year we nullified Liverpools threat easily enough. however under Ole we do play a much more attacking game. we tend to start really well and peg teams back & put them under a lot of pressure. our finishes to games hasnt been the best. not sure if its the teams fitness or tactics, but if we cant maintain the same level throughout against liverpool we could be in trouble.

I guess the upcoming game v PSG will give an insight into how Ole sets up against City and Liverpool

DM_7

fatherted1969 wrote: »

Was a credit to Fergie in the way he managed Giggs in his early years at the club. Limited him with the media and didn't overuse him from what I remember. Wonder how much of an influence Fergie was in the amount of international caps he won too. Could be a factor in Giggs longetivity at the top level. Fergie ahead of his time in many ways

I think Giggs played a huge number of games and only missed time when injured. His longevity does not appear to be due to decisions made about him as a young player.

Beasty

DM_7 wrote: »

I think Giggs played a huge number of games and only missed time when injured. His longevity does not appear to be due to decisions made about him as a young player.

He was quite injury prone early one, with loads of hamstring problems, which I think was put down to his pace

He was also very carefully looked after, and indeed comparisons were made with Gerrard who was played all the time as a youngster and suffered a lot of injuries when he was "maturing" as a player. Giggs was the other way round - he avoided injuries during his twenties, arguably because he had been so well looked after as a youngster. I have little doubt that if he had continued picking up the injuries he was getting as a teenager later in his career he would never have become the player he was (and bear in mind, he came into the team with Norman Whiteside leaving around that time - the general consensus was Whiteside's career was significantly curtailed because he was played so much as a youngster

FourFourRED

Arsenal tried to get Bailly on loan until the end of the season.

Hard to believe they genuinely thought that might happen.

yourdeadwright

Beasty wrote: »

He was quite injury prone early one, with loads of hamstring problems, which I think was put down to his pace

He was also very carefully looked after, and indeed comparisons were made with Gerrard who was played all the time as a youngster and suffered a lot of injuries when he was "maturing" as a player. Giggs was the other way round - he avoided injuries during his twenties, arguably because he had been so well looked after as a youngster. I have little doubt that if he had continued picking up the injuries he was getting as a teenager later in his career he would never have become the player he was (and bear in mind, he came into the team with Norman Whiteside leaving around that time - the general consensus was Whiteside's career was significantly curtailed because he was played so much as a youngster

Giggs 2nd , 3rd and 4th seasons with United where the ones he appeared in most league games,

He played 51 , 46 ,58 games in total In them 3 season's, that's a lot of games but how many of those where sub appearances ? I don't know ?

By the start of the 1992–93 season he was defo first choice ahead of Sharp

DM_7

Beasty wrote: »

He was quite injury prone early one, with loads of hamstring problems, which I think was put down to his pace

He was also very carefully looked after, and indeed comparisons were made with Gerrard who was played all the time as a youngster and suffered a lot of injuries when he was "maturing" as a player. Giggs was the other way round - he avoided injuries during his twenties, arguably because he had been so well looked after as a youngster. I have little doubt that if he had continued picking up the injuries he was getting as a teenager later in his career he would never have become the player he was (and bear in mind, he came into the team with Norman Whiteside leaving around that time - the general consensus was Whiteside's career was significantly curtailed because he was played so much as a youngster

I am sure they were thinking of him in late 20s when looking after his injuries but not decisions made with a goal to help him play to late 30s.

jayo26

yourdeadwright wrote: »

How do you lads think he will approach the City and Liverpool games,

Will he have United attack like they have been doing or go for a more defensive approach

Playing attacking football and having runner may fall right into City and Liverpool's hands .

I know you beat Spurs but in the second half tactic's didn't really work , It was De Gea and poor finishing that got you over the line ,

United have to attack Liverpool. Liverpool defence albeit missing players struggled with zaha the weekend imagine what it would do with martial, Rashford and Jesse running at it! Teams have been too preoccupied playing into Liverpool's hands!! run at them and hit them fast and close down the midfield if we don't attack they get time on the ball to run at our defence and that's shocking as long as we put them under pressure and don't breath on salah too hard we be fine.

KH25

jayo26 wrote: »

United have to attack Liverpool. Liverpool defence albeit missing players struggled with zaha the weekend imagine what it would do with martial, Rashford and Jesse running at it! Teams have been too preoccupied playing into Liverpool's hands!! run at them and hit them fast and close down the midfield if we don't attack they get time on the ball to run at our defence and that's shocking as long as we put them under pressure and don't breath on salah too hard we be fine.

This. Sitting back allows them too much time and space. Get up in their faces and pressure them and that’s where mistakes happen and opportunities arise. Obviously there needs to be enough cover to stop any counterattacks though.

Cantona's Collars

FourFourFM wrote: »

Arsenal tried to get Bailly on loan until the end of the season.

Hard to believe they genuinely thought that might happen.

Will he be added to their list of players "they could have gotten"?

yourdeadwright

jayo26 wrote: »

United have to attack Liverpool. Liverpool defence albeit missing players struggled with zaha the weekend imagine what it would do with martial, Rashford and Jesse running at it! Teams have been too preoccupied playing into Liverpool's hands!! run at them and hit them fast and close down the midfield if we don't attack they get time on the ball to run at our defence and that's shocking as long as we put them under pressure and don't breath on salah too hard we be fine.

To be fair Zaha was up against Milner and inside Milner was Matip who was rushed back from injury to start his first game since early December,

Also in front of them was Keita who started his first game in the Prem since Early December to ,

Against United you'd expect Gomes, Trent and Gini to all play instead,

Zaha is also one of the best dribblers in the premier league

DM_7

United have 5 games before Liverpool so I could not care less about that game right now.

It is far more important to see how United deal with Arsenal, a side who worked hard on Fitness while United are coming off two poor second half fall offs.

AidoEirE

jayo26 wrote: »

Dele alli ruled out until March now too, unfortunate to see any player injured of course but hopefully spurs will drop a few points in next few weeks.

With Kane and Ali out till mid March, they will definately drop points. They have Chelsea and Arsenal to play end of feb, start of march.
They'll try and get 1 of the 2 for the Arsenal game but i dont see why we wouldnt be ahead of them by the time thesee games come around

xtal191

Articel by Lingard on The Players Tribune for anyone who might be interested

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/jesse-lingard-i-promise-you-never-read-a-story-like-this-mate

We got chewed out. I’m talking a proper hairdryer.

Listen, I know everyone talks about Sir Alex’s hair-dryer treatments. I’ve heard all the stories from back in the day. They were legendary. But you’ve never seen a beasting until you’ve seen my grandad doing his thing.

This was a different level, mate.

This was in my academy days at Manchester United. I think we were like 11 years old or something. We were playing at Stoke. You know, rain coming down and all that, and it was just one of them days. We weren’t playing well, and tempers were flaring a bit. And the funny thing was, the Stoke parents and the United parents were sitting right next to each other.

So this one Stoke Dad is shouting to the referee about something or other, and I can hear my grandad starting on him like, “Oi, sit down. Sit down, son.”

You’ve gotta understand, my grandad is proper old school. He wasn’t even a football man, really. In his younger days, he was a rugby player and a powerlifter for Team Great Britain. He didn’t go full-on into football ’til after I was born and I started kicking about with my little ladybug floater football. We got pictures of me at 14 months with the red-and-black floater. Was still in my nappies. Could barely walk. But I was banging ’em top bins in the brown suede sofa in his living room.

Courtesy of Jesse Lingard

It was always me and my grandad. Every day. Him and my nan helped raise me. I actually used to sleep on a mattress on the floor of their room.

My grandad didn’t know a whole lot about football, but he could see I loved it, so he just started grafting. Literally, when I was four years old, he bought these footy training tapes on VHS, and for whatever reason they were from Japan. And you know, just the sight of this. Imagine. This big, hard English bloke sitting in front of the telly every morning with his tea, watching the Japanese football lesson, taking notes. Then after nursery, he’d take me down the park and teach me how to do a new skill. But I was so small that the ball was literally up to my knee. So I’d be like jumping over the ball to do step overs — hopping left and right.

I think we were out there nearly every day.

He was so passionate. He wanted to help me. But we were in rugby country up in Warrington, so he couldn’t really know for sure how good I was. The way he tells it, he took me over to the United academy for a trial when I was seven, and one of the coaches pulled him aside and said, “Where you been keeping him?”

From that day, when I joined the academy, it kind of became our dream, you know? You don’t get there alone, I don’t care who you are. You need people to back you. And he backed me every single day.

So anyway, back to my story. We’re up in Stoke, struggling in the rain, and he’s yelling at the Stoke Dad, proper straightening him out. Tensions are high, and we’re out there on the pitch losing our heads. I think we ended up losing by a few goals, and when you’re at United, that’s a big deal. Even when you’re 11. So the whistle goes, and we’re walking off the pitch, expecting to get an earful from the coaches on the ride back home.

But we don’t even get as far as the dressing room.

My grandad walks straight out onto the field. He’s like, “You lot! Oi! Come here.”

We’re all looking at him like ?!?!?!

And he’s jabbing his finger, and he’s shouting, “Disgrace! Proper disgrace out here today. Unbelievable. Go and look yourselves in the mirror, lads. You let your families down. You let yourselves down. You let the badge down. You’re not fit to wear the shirt! YOU’RE NOT FIT TO WEAR THE SHIRT!”

Hahahahahaha.

Yo!

We didn’t know whether to laugh or cry.

I think he ended up getting a four-match ban for having a go at the Stoke parents, and after that he was a legend. It was coming from a loving place, you know what I mean? He’s just a character.

Without him, there’s no way I’d be where I am. You gotta think of the odds.

Julie Glassberg/The Players' Tribune

When I first got to the academy, I ran into Sir Alex in the corridor one day, and I got a photo with him. Proper photo. Kodak. I’m beamin’. We kept the picture in the house and my grandad would pull it out and say, “There he is. The main man. You’ll be playing for him someday.”

The main man. That’s what he always calls him.

You gotta hear it in his accent. The meyne mun.

The problem was that I was so, so small. I couldn’t put on weight. I was banging down the Maccies, and I was still so skinny. My grandad would always say, “When you coming out to the garden with me? You need to put some muscle on.”

He had paved the whole garden over with cement, and he’d built this wooden shed that was like his little gym. The vibe was raw. This was not fit for the ’Gram, man. No music, no radio. Just old-school iron plates bangin’ around. Deadlifts. Bench press. Raw.

Well, actually, there’s a ceramic plate above the shed door. It’s got a cheeky little pink flamingo on it, and it says, WELCOME.

That was my nan’s touch. But other than that, it’s raw.

I remember when I was like nine years old, I went into Tony Whelan’s office and I said, “Um, sir, can I start doing some weights? My grandad wants to know.”

And Tony was like, “No, son. You can’t.”

I said, “Oh, how come?”

He said, “Because you’re nine.”

I always knew my size was going to be a challenge. Even as I got older, I was still swimming in my kit. There’s this photo of me from the Nike Cup, and my brother always laughs about it.

We’re playing A.S. Roma.

I’m 15, looking like I’m 10.

And these Italian lads are 15, looking like they’re 25.

I remember walking out and seeing these boys had proper stubble, and I was thinking, Sheesh. You gotta find this photo. I look like a mascot who just run out onto the pitch for laughs.

Courtesy of Jesse LingardFunny thing is, we won that match. We won a lot of matches back then, and I was playing well ― but I still wasn’t growing. When I turned 16, I seen a lot my teammates get pro contracts, but I wasn’t offered one. I was gutted.

Honestly, I don’t think I’d be here if it weren’t for Sir Alex. If it weren’t for the main man. One day, he had a meeting with me and my family. He sat us down in his office and he said, “It’s going to take a while for you, Jesse. We believe in you. But you’re going to have to be patient. You’re not going to be ready for the first team until you’re 22 or 23.”

I can’t even tell you how massive that was for me and my family. You’d think I’d be disappointed, but when an absolute legend like Sir Alex says they believe in you, that means everything. He didn’t have to meet with us, and he didn’t have to say that to me.

But that’s why he’s Sir Alex, and that’s why Man United is Man United.

I’ll never forget this one day, I was still at the academy, and I was walking the corridors at Carrington. I think maybe I was having a bad day, to be honest. I was in my head. So I’m just walking the halls, and all of a sudden I feel a boot clip the back of me head.

Thwack.

Proper thwack.

I turn around, like, “Bloody … Who done that?”

And it’s Sir Alex, and he’s got a little smirk.

He says, “How you beehavin’, bwoy?”

He knew what it meant to do something like that. That’s how you knew he liked you, when he’d have a bit of banter with you.

I was buzzing for days after that. The main man. Gonna play for him some day.

I’ll never forget the day Sir Alex called me and Pogba up to the bench, away at Newcastle. We were 18, 19. I just remember looking around the dressing room and seeing all the legends preparing, pulling their socks on. Scholes. Rooney. Rio. Giggsy.

Me and Pogs take our spot on the bench, and you know, we were used to playing in reserve games in front of 200 people. This is 50,000. I remember looking up at that massive glass stand at the one end, and it was shaking. And I looked over at Pogs like, Oh my gosh, if the gaffer actually puts me in, I might wet meself.

Lucky for me, we stayed on the bench that day. But that was such a big moment for me. Just to be thrown into the fire like that, and to get to wear the shirt for Sir Alex, it was massive for my belief.
Oh my gosh, if the gaffer actually puts me in, I might wet meself.

The truth is, I probably wasn’t ready. I can see that now. Sir Alex was bang-on about what he told me in that meeting years ago. I don’t know how he could see it, but he was right. I had to spend the next three years grafting, taking my lumps. I went on loan at Leicester, Birmingham, Brighton. I think those experiences were necessary. When you make it to the top, people see the glitz and the glamour, but they don’t see everything that went into it. They don’t see you living out of a Marriott in Leicester, eating room service for dinner every night, missing your family, doubting yourself, wondering if it’s ever gonna happen for you.

It’s funny, certain people will criticize me now because I’m always smiling out there on the pitch. But I’ll never stop being myself. I’ll never stop enjoying my football. I’ll never take the smile off my face when I step over the line, because I know what it means to wear this shirt. I know how lucky I am to do what I do for a living, and to represent this badge, and I’m never gonna stop enjoying it for a minute.

Because it all could’ve gone another way. Easily. When I finally got my debut in a United shirt against Swansea back in 2014, that was supposed to be the payoff for all the grafting, all the pain, all the years away from home. My whole family was in the stands at Old Trafford. I was 22 years old, just like Sir Alex predicted.

This was it. We’d made it.

Then I did my knee after 20 minutes.

Heard it pop, and I knew right away. I remember seeing my brother after the match, and he had tears in his eyes. Because he knew what it meant. It wasn’t just the injury. It was the timing. It was everything.

I was on the shelf for about 6 months. Couldn’t train. Couldn’t walk. Couldn’t do anything. Just laying on the sofa seeing United on Match of the Day, gutted. It was probably the lowest point of my life. I was genuinely depressed. That was rock bottom, really. I was literally picking my hair out I was so frustrated. But that’s also when I had time to think about my life, and I realized that all of this can go away so quickly, you know what I mean? Even if you work hard, and you have the talent, nothing is guaranteed.

It took me hitting rock bottom to really appreciate the opportunity we all have every time we pull on that United shirt. It can all go away in an instant.

It was a full 14 months before I had the chance to put on the United shirt again.

I haven’t stopped smiling since.

If you don’t like it, sorry. I’m not gonna change.

Robbie Jay Barratt/AMA/Getty Images

We all got different paths in this game. There’s so many things you don’t see. You know what’s so crazy to me? I was sat in that Marriot back in 2012, eating my room service chips, and I was barely getting a run out for Leicester. And in that same dressing room you had Jamie Vardy and Harry Kane, and they were going through the same struggles. We were all just trying to get a game in the Championship.

Six years later, we’re all walking out for the World Cup semifinal, representing England.

How do you explain that?

You know, last summer in Russia was probably the most fun I’ve ever had in my entire life. And might sound strange to say because of all the pressure involved in a World Cup, but honestly, I laughed every single day. With Gareth Southgate and his staff and his waistcoat, it was positive vibes only. We were extremely well prepared. Just look at our set pieces and penalties. We were drilled. But we also could express ourselves and be free. We were like a family, and the banter was just a 10 out of 10 with those lads. I’m talking funny, funny guys.

Kieran Trippier … TRIPPS …. BANTER.

Danny Welbeck … WELBZ … BANTER.

Marcus Rashford … BEANS … NO BANTER.

(That’s banter.)

With Welbz … I can’t even explain it. He doesn’t even have to say a word. He’ll just be standing around pulling his daft faces, making you laugh.

I’ll always remember every single match from the World Cup, but I think the one memory I’ll take to my grave is the Russian Roller Coaster. I nearly piss myself every time I think about it.

We were kind of isolated in our camp, so the staff would arrange these days out to keep us loose. One day, we went to this theme park ― the whole squad. It was like them days you have as a kid with your friends, just pure banter. So we’re standing in line for this roller coaster, and it looks proper scary. And there’s this big horn that blows right before the thing takes off, right?

Like one of them big factory horns. Just to warn you, like, We’re off.

So we get to the front of the line and we climb into the seats, and they’ve got these big metal harnesses that come down automatically and strap you in.

But for whatever reason, Welbz’s harness wasn’t clicking in.

He was sitting right behind me, and at first it was a joke like, “Haha, yo, my thing isn’t clicking. Tell the guy. Where’s the guy?”

But then a few more seconds go by, and everybody else is strapped in, and he starts panicking a little bit like, “Yo! Get the guy! Oi!”

All of a sudden, out of nowhere, the HORN goes off.

BBBLLLLRRRRRRNNNNNT!!

And Welbz is SCREAMING, like, “Yooooooooooooooooooo! YOOOOOOOOOOOO! YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

He literally got up and jumped off the ride.

I guess the horn was for something else, because nothing happened. The ride was just sitting there, chilling, and Welbz was running round, panicking, screaming. The park workers were just looking at us like, Yo, pathetic.

Ahhhhh, we were pissing ourselves.

His face, mate. He thought he was a goner. It was unbelievable. I’ll remember that forever.
The ride was just sitting there, chilling, and Welbz was running round, panicking, screaming.

I don’t think I’ve had that much fun playing football since I was a kid. And the best part for us was seeing the videos of how much joy we were spreading back home. It was funny to see the whole It’s Coming Home thing. Because, obviously, we knew it started as a joke. And then it was like kind of still a joke, but maybe not? And then it was like ― yo! ― it’s really coming home.

We believed it 100%. And honestly, to this day, I feel like we could’ve done more. I still feel disappointed in the Croatia match. We weren’t just happy to be there, you know? We were devastated. But, at the end of the day, I think what we accomplished last summer was bigger than just the results.

Football is about winning trophies. Always will be. But I hope we changed the attitude around the country a little bit. I hope we showed that you can play with passion and play with positivity and play with a smile on your face, and still get results.

You look at that squad, and we had a lot of young lads. A lot of players who had been doubted. A lot of players who took the long way to get here.

I think we proved to everyone that we’re fit to wear the shirt.

Unfortunately, my grandad couldn’t make the trip to Russia. But he was following every minute from home, and he had my nan saving all the newspapers. After I scored against Panama one of them had a big spread of me celebrating, and the story mentioned how my grandad had helped raise me.

He’s still got the paper saved in the living room. I was over there for tea the other day, and he pulled it out. He was leafing through it, remembering little moments from the World Cup, and then he says, “Would you look at that … it says here, Jesse’s grandfather, Ken, a former Team Great Britain strongman….”

So he starts laughing, and then he points out toward the garden shed.

“Former strongman, eh? Former …. Nonsense.”

Adamocovic

xtal191 wrote: »

Articel by Lingard on The Players Tribune for anyone who might be interested

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/jesse-lingard-i-promise-you-never-read-a-story-like-this-mate

He wasn't messing about the photo!

bangkok

Adamocovic wrote: »

He wasn't messing about the photo!

His techical ability was probably miles better than all the bigger lads

yourdeadwright

bangkok wrote: »

His techical ability was probably miles better than all the bigger lads

Good player , who also seemed to try his best when Jose was there unlike some others you never seen him sulk , Also he seems like a decent lad.

but the videos that do the round of him in social media and the likes he comes across as a very immature teen you'd never think he was 26


He's very good at footballer and that's all that really matters

bangkok

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Good player , who also seemed to try his best when Jose was there unlike some others you never seen him sulk , Also he seems like a decent lad.

but the videos that do the round of him in social media and the likes he comes across as a very immature teen you'd never think he was 26


He's very good at footballer and that's all that really matters

Just the way he is... if i was a multi million pound footballer playing for my local team who happen to be one of the biggest clubs in the world i would be the very same. No harm being a bit of a messer wants he puts in the hard work

Trigger

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Good player , who also seemed to try his best when Jose was there unlike some others you never seen him sulk , Also he seems like a decent lad.

but the videos that do the round of him in social media and the likes he comes across as a very immature teen you'd never think he was 26


He's very good at footballer and that's all that really matters

I have personally seen hundreds if not thousands (and that's not being hyperbolic) of 20 somethings act way worse than Lingard does. It's the way society is these days, it was a lot different even 10-15 years ago.. but society moves on and this is the new culture. That might be immature to you or I.. but these days its absolutely normal

Mitch Connor

Part of me understands why United aren't active this window.

The other part looks at top 4 being possible. Our defense. And cries that we aren't going to solve the effing cb problem.

Trigger

Oh ffs

https://twitter.com/footballitalia/status/1087846383699267590?s=19

Mr.Nice Guy

Neymar gone off injured tonight in PSG's French Cup game with Strasbourg. He was in tears as he left the pitch so he's concerned about it. Might be an injury doubt for the United game.

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1088190406226046977

bassy

that,s great news indeed for us united fans

Lukekul

I'd be very surprised if that kept him out for more than a match or two

pjohnson

astradave wrote: »

Oh ffs

https://twitter.com/footballitalia/status/1087846383699267590?s=19

Hardly surprising. They were doing the same shìte all summer with him.


Kinda obvious when the deal went quiet we were messing it up.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Damian should be worth 25m pounds easily in current market rates. Don't know where they are going with 4m pounds. Wouldn't get a bad championship player for that. Juve can **** off.

RobbingBandit

Silly selling tactics again get em off the wage bill fire sale type thinking, Nani and RVP going to Turkey for pennies then Nani getting sold on, Darmian is definitely worth more than £4m crazy to see him so close to exit yet Rojo and Bailly going no where fast.

We do seem to have a problem moving on our players for decent fees for some reason.

I'm not sure if its the fringe players get paid too much so we have to sell low to entice clubs to buy them on their current wages or if woodward is just incapable of negotiating these deals properly.

It seems we have had no decent selling fees in years, the last one was Di Maria and somehow we made a loss on that whole thing even though we were selling him to PSG

VW 1

I'd rather lose Darmian for free than accept 6m for him. Potentially a very competent and flexible backup at any of the back four positions. A squad player to replace him would cost 3-4 times what we would get for him.

Mr.Nice Guy

Darmian is garbage. Genuinely can't remember a single great game from him. I'd rather promote a youth player than have to rely on him.

Nearly fell over at the idea of him being worth 25m. He'd be worth a tenth of that if we're being generous. Guess Juve agree and I'm not surprised they ran a mile at those alleged figures.

Rayne Wooney

You can make a good argument for not spending money on a team on a long winning run but I hope it doesn’t come back to bite us in the backside when the games get tougher in the next few months.

We’ve done really well under Ole to cut the gap to 4th from 11 to 3 but a couple of bad results and we are essentially back to where we started. Chelsea will surely come good after dropping 8 points in their last 6 games.

FourFourRED

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Darmian is definitely worth more than £4m crazy to see him so close to exit yet Rojo and Bailly going no where fast.

€12m (£10.4m) is the figure being mentioned by Di Marzio if a loan move is made permanent.

Regardless, I’d be keeping Bailly ahead of Darmian every day of the week. There is still potential there.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Darmian is garbage. Genuinely can't remember a single great game from him. I'd rather promote a youth player than have to rely on him.

Nearly fell over at the idea of him being worth 25m. He'd be worth a tenth of that if we're being generous. Guess Juve agree and I'm not surprised they ran a mile at those alleged figures.

Most garbage players are worth 20m now so 25m is reasonable if not more actually. Maybe 35m.

Trigger

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Most garbage players are worth 20m now so 25m is reasonable if not more actually. Maybe 35m.

Maybe so when you are selling to another English team, but selling abroad is different.. darmian has made it known he wishes to return to Italy.

bangkok

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Darmian is garbage. Genuinely can't remember a single great game from him. I'd rather promote a youth player than have to rely on him.

Nearly fell over at the idea of him being worth 25m. He'd be worth a tenth of that if we're being generous. Guess Juve agree and I'm not surprised they ran a mile at those alleged figures.

Darmian is far from garbage. You think juventus go out to try and sign garbage players??

bassy

bangkok wrote: »

Darmian is far from garbage. You think juventus go out to try and sign garbage players??

signing him cause there getting him on the cheap

bangkok

pjohnson wrote: »

Hardly surprising. They were doing the same shìte all summer with him.


Kinda obvious when the deal went quiet we were messing it up.

Messing what up? He is a player of value.... juventus want him for next to nothing. Dead right for holding out for a better fee

Mr.Nice Guy

bangkok wrote: »

Darmian is far from garbage. You think juventus go out to try and sign garbage players??

Juve are just looking for a squad player and the fact he's played for the national side and been at United means he'd carry more interest than most. Now they'll likely go and sign someone from a lower half Serie A side for a bit of cover. No big deal for them. United meanwhile are still stuck with a player they should have sold years ago.

Cantona's Collars

Neymar out of the CL game, PSG confirmed he has broken the fifth metatarsal in his right foot.

J. Marston

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Neymar out of the CL game, PSG confirmed he has broken the fifth metatarsal in his right foot.

Ha, delighted!

I mean...Shame that, you always want to see the best players on the biggest stage.

Cantona's Collars

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Neymar out of the CL game, PSG confirmed he has broken the fifth metatarsal in his right foot.

Verratti a doubt as well.

S.M.B.

What kind of witchcraft is Ole using!!!!