Common idiotic actions you see roads every day

Carlingford Locked

Patww79 wrote: »

Like you said, there's many. That includes cyclists though.

I've been cycling as part of a commute for 20 years, I've never once seen a cyclist hurt anyone, except themselves. Cars kill and maim people every day. Anyway I've seen your posts regarding public transport and bicycles and anything remotely progressive, you are a dinosaur, so no point talking to you.

Dakota Dan

Don’t know if it were mentioned as I could t be arsed reading the whole thread but does anyone notice the new breed of arseholes that drive out at junctions without looking or stopping?

OldMrBrennan83

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

I've been cycling as part of a commute for 20 years, I've never once seen a cyclist hurt anyone, except themselves. Cars kill and maim people every day. Anyway I've seen your posts regarding public transport and bicycles and anything remotely progressive, you are a dinosaur, so no point talking to you.

You don't see them. They cause whatever and are long gone, so skip the stats.

You PT and cycling Nazis are far from progressive either. It's all force this and force that.

Dakota Dan

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

I've been cycling as part of a commute for 20 years, I've never once seen a cyclist hurt anyone, except themselves. Cars kill and maim people every day. Anyway I've seen your posts regarding public transport and bicycles and anything remotely progressive, you are a dinosaur, so no point talking to you.

Agreed, I still can’t understand the bashing of cyclists on boards.

Carlingford Locked

Patww79 wrote: »

You don't see them. They cause whatever and are long gone, so skip the stats.

me fail English, that's unpossible!

OldMrBrennan83

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

me fail English, that's unpossible!

Top notch, well done.

paleoperson

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Agreed, I still can’t understand the bashing of cyclists on boards.

Imagine if children went around roads in those plastic childrens' cars disrupting and scaring everyone and defenders of the practice said "they never hurt anyone!!! they're the ones always getting hurt by asshole drivers!!!".

Yourmama

People beeping at me when they are clearly in the wrong. Especially when they don't understand the concept of right of way at the same level roads junctions.

heldel00

TCM wrote: »

heldel00 wrote:

Stopping on a main road to let a car out from a side road.

If there is a line of slow moving traffic on a main road then it is common courtesy to let traffic out from a side road.

Nope, I'm obviously not talking about situations like that. That is not an idiotic action.
I am talking about when there is a line of traffic travelling at speed behind you and you are on a busy road.
And also the twits that stop on a main road to let someone cross over from middle lane. They are idiots.

Wailin

McCrack wrote: »

Were you crawling passed the car you were overtaking?

No he was doing the speed limit like he said. I know it's hard for some numpties to grasp eh?

Fighting Tao

Watching Netflix. It seems to be more common in the past year or so.

Phil.x

Three cyclists this evening one who worked for 4start pizza in phibsborough who was on a hybrid type of bike/moped all without lights, one of the guys was black and dressed in black clothing....madness.

paleoperson

heldel00 wrote: »

Nope, I'm obviously not talking about situations like that. That is not an idiotic action.
I am talking about when there is a line of traffic travelling at speed behind you and you are on a busy road.
And also the twits that stop on a main road to let someone cross over from middle lane. They are idiots.

Are they really idiots? Maybe they're misjudging the situation, it's not like they're aggressively acting dangerously. Give a hoot if you're so pissed off by it, but make sure you're actually in the right. It's a fairly rare occurrence for me to see.

heldel00

paleoperson wrote: »

heldel00 wrote: »

Nope, I'm obviously not talking about situations like that. That is not an idiotic action.
I am talking about when there is a line of traffic travelling at speed behind you and you are on a busy road.
And also the twits that stop on a main road to let someone cross over from middle lane. They are idiots.

Are they really idiots? Maybe they're misjudging the situation, it's not like they're aggressively acting dangerously. Give a hoot if you're so pissed off by it, but make sure you're actually in the right. It's a fairly rare occurrence for me to see.

Yes they are idiots.

heldel00

paleoperson wrote: »

heldel00 wrote: »

Nope, I'm obviously not talking about situations like that. That is not an idiotic action.
I am talking about when there is a line of traffic travelling at speed behind you and you are on a busy road.
And also the twits that stop on a main road to let someone cross over from middle lane. They are idiots.

Are they really idiots? Maybe they're misjudging the situation, it's not like they're aggressively acting dangerously. Give a hoot if you're so pissed off by it, but make sure you're actually in the right. It's a fairly rare occurrence for me to see.

Yes they are idiots.

Akrasia

McCrack wrote: »

Of course you will

It's beyond you to press your accelerator or flick your cruise up a notch to complete your overtaking maneuver efficiently so as not to impede other drivers

Why should another driver break the speed limit to allow you to break the speed limit in a less stressful way?

If someone is overtaking, they're overtaking. If they're hogging the overtaking lane with no intention of merging left then that's a different situation.

Carlingford Locked

Phil.x wrote: »

Three cyclists this evening one who worked for 4start pizza in phibsborough who was on a hybrid type of bike/moped all without lights, one of the guys was black and dressed in black clothing....madness.

I don't see how you'd manage not to see a cyclist in a lit up city street regardless of what they're wearing? Do people have difficulty seeing pedestrians too or just bikes?

Akrasia

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Daylight Running Lights - designed for use in daylight, front lights on and no back lights.

There must be some switch for nighttime use that the driver does not know about.

Crazy that people are supposedly responsible for being in control of the vehicle but haven't bothered to work out the basics of the controls.

Its crazy that car manufacturers are allowed to put DRL systems into their cars that allow numptys to drive thinking they have their lights on but actually they're invisible from the rear.

When you're driving a car you have no idea if your rear lights are working unless you get out of the car and check them. There should be a light sensor and an audible warning if it's dark and the rear lights are off.

I can't think of any reason why DRLs wouldn't have the rear lights on by default

I have a Saab and it has a DRL system that has the front and rear lights on by default and they auto turn off when the ignition is turned off.

Akrasia

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

I don't see how you'd manage not to see a cyclist in a lit up city street regardless of what they're wearing? Do people have difficulty seeing pedestrians too or just bikes?

Yes. On a dark wet night winters night anyone who isn't lit up well is putting themselves at risk

Pedestrians should use appropriate crossings or else make damn sure there isn't any traffic coming their way before stepping onto the road

Cyclists in winter are taking their lives in their hands if they cycle without proper reflective gear and lights.

AndrewJRenko

Patww79 wrote: »

You don't see them. They cause whatever and are long gone, so skip the stats.

But it's amazing how they never show up in Garda records, or insurance records or any records at all really. If you don't see them, then how could they actually have caused anything?

Patww79 wrote: »

You PT and cycling Nazis are far from progressive either. It's all force this and force that.

Have you considered exposure therapy to help you to get over this deep fear of being forced to take the Luas? Maybe over the Xmas holidays, when it's not too crowded, you could try a short journey for a stop or two, and you'll find that it's not actually the worst thing in the world.

AndrewJRenko

Phil.x wrote: »

Three cyclists this evening one who worked for 4start pizza in phibsborough who was on a hybrid type of bike/moped all without lights, one of the guys was black and dressed in black clothing....madness.

You should give the business a call - really unacceptable for any business to be doing this.

Akrasia wrote: »

Yes. On a dark wet night winters night anyone who isn't lit up well is putting themselves at risk

Pedestrians should use appropriate crossings or else make damn sure there isn't any traffic coming their way before stepping onto the road

Cyclists in winter are taking their lives in their hands if they cycle without proper reflective gear and lights.

Strangely enough, it's the cyclists with lights, helmet and hi-vis that are actually taking their life into their hands:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/dublin-bus-driver-guilty-of-careless-driving-causing-death-of-cyclist-1.3674182

Akrasia wrote: »

Its crazy that car manufacturers are allowed to put DRL systems into their cars that allow numptys to drive thinking they have their lights on but actually they're invisible from the rear.

When you're driving a car you have no idea if your rear lights are working unless you get out of the car and check them. There should be a light sensor and an audible warning if it's dark and the rear lights are off.

I can't think of any reason why DRLs wouldn't have the rear lights on by default

I have a Saab and it has a DRL system that has the front and rear lights on by default and they auto turn off when the ignition is turned off.

Certainly a bit of a design fail by the manufacturers - but regardless, if you can't operate the basic controls, you shouldn't be behind the wheel.

Carlingford Locked

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

But it's amazing how they never show up in Garda records, or insurance records or any records at all really. If you don't see them, then how could they actually have caused anything?



Have you considered exposure therapy to help you to get over this deep fear of being forced to take the Luas? Maybe over the Xmas holidays, when it's not too crowded, you could try a short journey for a stop or two, and you'll find that it's not actually the worst thing in the world.

That guy wouldn't be happy unless everyone in Ireland drove to work from their one off bungalow and the only food available were breakfast rolls and carvery.

1800_Ladladlad

There are people with common sense who drive with the consideration of others. There are drivers and pedestrians who are just absolute gobshoites and Im mesmerised that they've been given a license or know how to dress themselves or are even allowed out of the house without a carer. I have way too many examples for both drivers and pedestrians being inconsiderate bellends.

AndrewJRenko

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

That guy wouldn't be happy unless everyone in Ireland drove to work from their one off bungalow and the only food available were breakfast rolls and carvery.

It's just kinda funny that he hasn't yet managed to work out that the more people he/we can encourage to switch to cycling or public transport, the more space there will be left on the road for him to play the vroom vroom games.

AndrewJRenko

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

There are people with common sense who drive with the consideration of others. There are drivers and pedestrians who are just absolute gobshoites and Im mesmerised that they've been given a license or know how to dress themselves or are even allowed out of the house without a carer. I have way too many examples for both drivers and pedestrians being inconsiderate bellends.

Yes, there are inconsiderate bellends in all modes of transport. But there's only type of inconsiderate bellends that kill 3 or 4 people each week.

paleoperson

Akrasia wrote: »

Why should another driver break the speed limit to allow you to break the speed limit in a less stressful way?

If someone is overtaking, they're overtaking. If they're hogging the overtaking lane with no intention of merging left then that's a different situation.

I think this "McCrack" guy is just some sort of edgelord, thinks he looks cool by saying anyone who accelerates the most is always the champion and in the right. Probably best to just ignore this potentially dangerous troll.

OldMrBrennan83

Carlingford Locked wrote: »

That guy wouldn't be happy unless everyone in Ireland drove to work from their one off bungalow and the only food available were breakfast rolls and carvery.

Stick to the fifteen year old memes instead of the staking.



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gammygils

Drivers who drive behind me with full lights on!! This is an every night thing now WTF?
People who drive in a street lit area with full lights on. I walk the dog at night now around the town and the amount of cnuts that nearly blind me is unreal. Just because there's no cars approaching they don't dim & it's not like they can't see me in my hi-vis. FS
Drivers that flash me because I overtake them! WTAF? If you don't like being overtaken then don't be doing 45 in a 100k zone

And lastly Toyota Yaris! The most overtaken car! Yaris drivers - do us all a favour & pull into the hard shoulder every now and then and let off the 20 or more cars behind you You are not driving safely when you're crawling up the road at 60k/h. No you're not! What you're doing is actaually dangerous and inconsiderate towards other drivers :mad:

py2006

M50 roundabout at Ballymun. Drivers on left lane (headed to ballymun/town) coming from airport suddenly turning right, without indicating, to head south bound. They even beep at cars who have the right of way. How there isn't more accidents there I don't know as the people in right lane can also go straight for ballymun/town

Happens daily

AndrewJRenko

Patww79 wrote: »

Rapeyness level ten.

From the bloke complaining about "PT and cycling Nazis", that's more than a little ironic.

Jesus where do I start.. Vietnamese roads are notoriously bad.

On your motorbike while playing with your phone is becoming increasingly common.
Driving across lanes instead of merging.
Cutting corners and driving on the wrong side of the road when turning in a junction.
Random swerving.
Driving out to look back before a U-turn so your motorbike is suddenly in front of traffic behind you.
Car drivers not knowing their vehicle's width so you have traffic jams caused by fools not moving with over a foot of space on their far side.
Lorries and buses steamrolling through junctions.
Etc.

The fact is there are people in the driving test center that you pay to do the test. During rush hour, police never ever actually enforce traffic laws. It is perfectly common to see the drivers for school buses getting smashed in the afternoon. No one seems to care.

Pkiernan

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Jesus where do I start.. Vietnamese roads are notoriously bad.

On your motorbike while playing with your phone is becoming increasingly common.
Driving across lanes instead of merging.
Cutting corners and driving on the wrong side of the road when turning in a junction.
Random swerving.
Driving out to look back before a U-turn so your motorbike is suddenly in front of traffic behind you.
Car drivers not knowing their vehicle's width so you have traffic jams caused by fools not moving with over a foot of space on their far side.
Lorries and buses steamrolling through junctions.
Etc.

The fact is there are people in the driving test center that you pay to do the test. During rush hour, police never ever actually enforce traffic laws. It is perfectly common to see the drivers for school buses getting smashed in the afternoon. No one seems to care.

Do you live in Blanchardstown or Vietnam?

bal1000

Can't stand meeting drivers on a rural road at night, who dip their main beems only for them to go back on full lights when they are 10m from your windscreen.

El Horseboxo

Agricola wrote: »

So many people havent a clue what they're supposed to do at roundabouts. The amount of times I've been going straight through only to be cut across by someone on the outside lane who should be going right but just overtakes you!

I think you fall into that category too. On a lot of roundabouts if I'm in the outside lane (right most) on a 2 lane road, I don't have to turn right. No more than you have to turn left if you are in the inside lane (left most). I can go straight too. Road markings dictate it.

El Horseboxo

py2006 wrote: »

M50 roundabout at Ballymun. Drivers on left lane (headed to ballymun/town) coming from airport suddenly turning right, without indicating, to head south bound. They even beep at cars who have the right of way. How there isn't more accidents there I don't know as the people in right lane can also go straight for ballymun/town

Happens daily

Just in Ireland this morning and only had this happen to me while in a taxi. Car in right most lane who is entitled to turn right onto M50 or go straight. I'm in taxi beside him to the left. See indicator on taxi for a right turn. I think that it must be a mistake. But nope, this to turn right and had to hit the brakes and beep the guy to the right who was going straight. Taxi driver began cursing him as we turned onto M50. I told him he was the one that was wrong but was having none of it. And this dude is paid to supposedly drive people safely around the city.

I remember this happening to me a lot at that spot previously when i lived here.

Sheep breeder

One of the most dangerous things see drivers on rural roads doing is when they meet another car at night they put the foot on the breaks and move out in the road towards the on coming car every time,
Other big thing and not against cyclists is elderly men out cycling in working hours on the roads moving in and out on the road on bits of hills with big traffic behind them.

arybvtcw0eolkf

All of the above.

But as a cyclist and motorcyclist my one big bug bear is mobile phone use. I know car drivers are not so aware of it, you can't see into other peoples cars (mostly) but as a two wheeled road user I've to be hyper aware of my surroundings.

As soon as I see a car wandering about the lanes, erratic speeds, slow to move off or bumping into the car in front (I see this one the M50 regularly) and I filter up beside the driver almost 100% of the time the prick is browsing social media.

My bike is white and when it sneaks into view beside the car its hilarious to see the driver fvck the phone across the car in fright thinking I'm a cop lol.

Seriously people, if you think by putting the phone on your right leg that you can't be seen well I've news for you ~ you can be seen, and your driving manners are putting my life and those of my loved one's in danger.. Go kill yourself, I couldn't care less but you're a completely selfish bastard driving and using your phone and I don't care if its only yourself you kill.

padjocollins

driving back to ballyheigue beach in Kerry from Cork city this summer , me , two young daughters , pick up two backpackers. Traffic is moving along at a good speed. straight stretch of road , i could see the vehichles passing a slower one so i pull halfway into yellow shoulder and keep driving at my speed (i would say 120km) , there was no break in the yellow line or a sign/indication that anything could come out from my left. I had about 2.5 seconds to get back in lane or be smashed. A car/suv came out of what seemed like nowhere onto the hardshoulder without checking if it was free. In fairness it should be. i had judged the bissest danger to be oncoming traffic , my speed and their overtaking speed. More consideration from everyone . That person prob pulled out from there many times, you'd think they'd be a bit more aware. that said , i definately was going too fast , 20 - 30k slower would have made a lot of difference. i suppose you don't want to be holding up traffic and hands up , it wasn't my best driving . It's a dangerous enough road and it's high volume , high speed and mostly single lane on both sides.

TheUnderfaker

py2006 wrote: »

M50 roundabout at Ballymun. Drivers on left lane (headed to ballymun/town) coming from airport suddenly turning right, without indicating, to head south bound. They even beep at cars who have the right of way. How there isn't more accidents there I don't know as the people in right lane can also go straight for ballymun/town

Happens daily

I know the one and it's an absolute disaster. It happens more than daily too, I'd say I see upwards of 60℅ of the time I'm using the roundabout. People just don't pay any attention to the road markings.

Tazzimus

El Horseboxo wrote: »

I think you fall into that category too. On a lot of roundabouts if I'm in the outside lane (right most) on a 2 lane road, I don't have to turn right. No more than you have to turn left if you are in the inside lane (left most). I can go straight too. Road markings dictate it.

Actually I think I know the roundabouts they mean.
Single lane road, come to a roundabout and it splits into two "lanes", then back to one as you come back off it.
Tullamore bypass has roundabouts like that, full of people who are unaware of how it works, or how roundabouts in general work.
I was behind someone who indicated left at the first roundabout, right at the second, and not at all for the third. All while being in the right "lane" and going straight each time.

Simeon Careful Vinegar wrote: »

All of the above.

But as a cyclist and motorcyclist my one big bug bear is mobile phone use. I know car drivers are not so aware of it, you can't see into other peoples cars (mostly) but as a two wheeled road user I've to be hyper aware of my surroundings.

As soon as I see a car wandering about the lanes, erratic speeds, slow to move off or bumping into the car in front (I see this one the M50 regularly) and I filter up beside the driver almost 100% of the time the prick is browsing social media.

My bike is white and when it sneaks into view beside the car its hilarious to see the driver fvck the phone across the car in fright thinking I'm a cop lol.

Seriously people, if you think by putting the phone on your right leg that you can't be seen well I've news for you ~ you can be seen, and your driving manners are putting my life and those of my loved one's in danger.. Go kill yourself, I couldn't care less but you're a completely selfish bastard driving and using your phone and I don't care if its only yourself you kill.

I usually find you recognise car drivers who either have/had a bike, or know people that do as they'll move over a bit when they see a bike to give them a bit of space.
Then you have the opposite end of that where people will change lanes while a bike is going past, completely oblivious to the, usually bright and noisy, thing beside them.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Tazzimus wrote: »

I usually find you recognise car drivers who either have/had a bike, or know people that do as they'll move over a bit when they see a bike to give them a bit of space.
Then you have the opposite end of that where people will change lanes while a bike is going past, completely oblivious to the, usually bright and noisy, thing beside them.

I ride fairly defensively these days, I'm biking 33 years now and go by the adage 'There are old bikers and there are bold bikers, but there are no old bold bikers'.

I know now that there's a new generation who didn't grow up without mobile phones ans social media and being connected almost 24/7 is a normal part of their lives but ffs purposely putting yourself and other's in danger so you can look at cats on Instagram ~ I actually rode the length of the N32 beside a lady driver who was scrolling through photos of cats on instagram all the while completely oblivious to me riding beside her and only occasionally looking up to see if the traffic had stopped ahead of her.

This is just one example of what I witness daily.

I know there are people reading this who use their phones driving, its highly improbable that there's not.. Well if one is reading this just know that you're a dangerous & selfish wanker.

And another thing, holding the phone with it on hands free is illegal too. Leave the bloody phones down when you're driving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLywnpx7hIc

Deebles McBeebles

Could not agree with you more, Makikomi. Its the most selfish thing I regularly see. Almost every day I see cars flying through pedestrian crossings, drivers faces buried in their phones. WTF is wrong with people.

OldMrBrennan83

Of all the miles I've ever done I've only ever seen two people driving while looking at something on their phone. Plenty talking on them but very little of the 'head buried in them'. Maybe I've just missed them by chance.

ConnyMcDavid

thelad95 wrote: »

5. Yellow box etiquette is just non existent. Green light does not mean you can enter the junction if it’s obvious you can’t exit it.

Well nobody going is to stop to leave space for people entering from a different lane or wave you out. You can't expect people to just sit for an hour until traffic dies down.

Tazzimus

Simeon Careful Vinegar wrote: »

I ride fairly defensively these days, I'm biking 33 years now and go by the adage 'There are old bikers and there are bold bikers, but there are no old bold bikers'.

I know now that there's a new generation who didn't grow up without mobile phones ans social media and being connected almost 24/7 is a normal part of their lives but ffs purposely putting yourself and other's in danger so you can look at cats on Instagram ~ I actually rode the length of the N32 beside a lady driver who was scrolling through photos of cats on instagram all the while completely oblivious to me riding beside her and only occasionally looking up to see if the traffic had stopped ahead of her.

This is just one example of what I witness daily.

I know there are people reading this who use their phones driving, its highly improbable that there's not.. Well if one is reading this just know that you're a dangerous & selfish wanker.

And another thing, holding the phone with it on hands free is illegal too. Leave the bloody phones down when you're driving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLywnpx7hIc

Having got a smack of a car back when I had a bike, I can attest to how blind people are to them.

Then again, some people tend to be blind to other cars as well, never mind something a bit smaller.

AndrewJRenko

ConnyMcDavid wrote: »

Well nobody going is to stop to leave space for people entering from a different lane or wave you out.

Yes, they are.

ConnyMcDavid wrote: »

You can't expect people to just sit for an hour until traffic dies down.

Yes, you can.

road_high

Old Perry wrote: »

Going straight through on roundabout while indicating right. there needs to be a national ad campaign to educate people on how to navigate roundabouts.

I can’t fathom this one. Indicating the opposite fcukin direction to which you are traveling...what is going on in these people’s brain? How does that make any sense?

AndrewJRenko

Patww79 wrote: »

Of all the miles I've ever done I've only ever seen two people driving while looking at something on their phone. Plenty talking on them but very little of the 'head buried in them'. Maybe I've just missed them by chance.

At least weekly, I am overtaken while cycling by a driver actively typing or scrolling on their phone. I've had a few engrossed in Facetiming while driving too.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Patww79 wrote: »

Of all the miles I've ever done I've only ever seen two people driving while looking at something on their phone. Plenty talking on them but very little of the 'head buried in them'. Maybe I've just missed them by chance.

Driving or riding bikes?.

I ride the M50 or cycle through Dublin city daily and tbh I've tried counting the number of people using social media on the M50 and have lost count every time.. And this is daily.

I often drive a bus or truck, and because you're looking down into cars its the same there, every journey without fail I'll see people using social media or texting.

If you've only witness two people looking at something on their phones "of all the miles" you've ever done well then I shudder to think what else you're oblivious to on the roads.. Maybe your next journey should be to SpecSavers lol :P

road_high

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

I drive for an average of nine hours a day, five days a week, and one of the most common idiotic actions I see is people (probably the kind of people who wrongly consider themselves 'good drivers') accelerating towards other people's mistakes and then using their horn as a method of rebuking them. They don't seem to realise that (a) everyone makes mistakes, and (b) part of being a good driver involves anticipating other people's mistakes.

This is very true. A few times at roundabouts I’ve underestimated people’s speed coming into it (they are to the right of me and in the right) but still they keep coming for you. I’ve had to accelerate out of the way. A little bit of common sense and magnanimity would do wonders if they’d slowed ever so slightly and let me off. But no