500 euro rx 570 build

Spaz

1. What is your budget? [€500]

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? Gaming and possibly programming in the future

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? No

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? No

5. Do you need a monitor? No

5a. If yes, what size do you need n/a

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? Will buy a 1080p monitor

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? No

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? No

8. How can you pay? Debit card

9. When are you purchasing? Next couple of weeks

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? No, Youtube is a valuable tool

Notes:
All parts bar graphcs card have to be from amazon uk with prime
Price doesn't need to include shipping
Preferably 4 ram slot motherboard
Rx 570 https://www.ebuyer.com/787053-sapphire-amd-radeon-rx-570-4gb-nitro-graphics-card-11266-14-20g
500w PSU (for future possible upgrades)
I plan to go with a 240gb SSD for now and later add a 1tb harddrive so only the ssd for now is fine.

Any advice appreciated, Thank you

K.O.Kiki

Buying from UK:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£70.50 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£62.95 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£32.02 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 4 GB NITRO+ Video Card (£160.14 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Xigmatek - Frontliner (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£35.42 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£42.64 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £451.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-24 11:29 GMT+0000

Caveats: PSU is 450W (still good enough tbh) and motherboard isn't great.

If you're future-proofing, I'd try to upp the budget another €50 to get an MSI B450 board & better PSU

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£70.50 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard (£94.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£32.02 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 4 GB NITRO+ Video Card (£160.14 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Xigmatek - Frontliner (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£35.42 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: be quiet! - System Power 8 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£49.66 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £490.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-24 11:38 GMT+0000

Edit: just noticed you're buying from Caseking. Will have another look later.

TerrorFirmer

I would not get a Ryzen 1200, outdated straight out of the box due to being quad core/quad thread and will struggle with some of the latest games. I would get a Ryzen 1600, that way you've nothing to worry about for years.

Get an A320M motherboard + Ryzen 1600 over B450M + Ryzen 1200 if you have to.

K.O.Kiki

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I would not get a Ryzen 1200, outdated straight out of the box due to being quad core/quad thread and will struggle with some of the latest games. I would get a Ryzen 1600, that way you've nothing to worry about for years.

Get an A320M motherboard + Ryzen 1600 over B450M + Ryzen 1200 if you have to.

Most A320 boards don't have good enough VRMs for a 6-core CPU.

Spaz

If somebody could look at the prices at caseking.de and then list the parts that will fit in budget that would be great.
Edit: The reason I want to go with caseking is they have the AMD Raise the Game offer which amazon uk doesn't unfortunately. Other british websits also seem a bit pricey unless anyone has advice?


Edit 2: Ebuyer has a cheaper price for the card with free shipping, anyone have info of i they are a good seller?

K.O.Kiki

Spaz wrote: »

If somebody could look at the prices at caseking.de and then list the parts that will fit in budget that would be great.
Edit: The reason I want to go with caseking is they have the AMD Raise the Game offer which amazon uk doesn't unfortunately. Other british websits also seem a bit pricey unless anyone has advice?


Edit 2: Ebuyer has a cheaper price for the card with free shipping, anyone have info of i they are a good seller?

Double-check the shipping from eBuyer but they should be ok.

Do not buy the cheaper models (£130-ish); those models only have 1 year warranty & are implied to be ex-mining hardware.

Spaz

I'm pretty stuck.

I want to buy most of the parts on the same website to save shipping and while amazon uk has decent prices the rx 570 doesn't have the free game offer.

Also how much would the currency exchange fee be?

Should I buy from UK or Germany and if UK, should I buy most the parts from amazon and the graphics card from ebuyer (using parcel motel)?

TerrorFirmer

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Most A320 boards don't have good enough VRMs for a 6-core CPU.

Good enough in what sense?

The VRM temps are going to be higher than you'd like, but functionally a 1600 + A320M is going to be fine at stock speeds.

Obviously you're not going to be overclocking but a stock 1600 wallops an overclocked 1200 in the latest games.

B450M + 1200 lags way behind A320M + 1600 in games and cost will be very similar.

K.O.Kiki

Spaz wrote: »

I'm pretty stuck.

I want to buy most of the parts on the same website to save shipping and while amazon uk has decent prices the rx 570 doesn't have the free game offer.

Also how much would the currency exchange fee be?

Should I buy from UK or Germany and if UK, should I buy most the parts from amazon and the graphics card from ebuyer (using parcel motel)?

Buy from wherever's cheapest tbh.
Could try contacting Amazon to see if they can honour the game offer.

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Good enough in what sense?

The VRM temps are going to be higher than you'd like, but functionally a 1600 + A320M is going to be fine at stock speeds.

Obviously you're not going to be overclocking but a stock 1600 wallops an overclocked 1200 in the latest games.

B450M + 1200 lags way behind A320M + 1600 in games and cost will be very similar.

Even with the cheapest A320 motherboard you're looking at €150 CPU + €60 mobo.

Spaz

I have decided to buy the graphics card from ebuyer (and use addresspal).
I will buy rest of parts from amazon.co.uk using the free amazon prime trial.
Could somebody come up with a parts list for 500 euro (with same specifications in first post) but on amazon.co.uk instead (must have prime). The graphics card will be from here:https://www.ebuyer.com/787053-sapphire-amd-radeon-rx-570-4gb-nitro-graphics-card-11266-14-20g

Thanks in advance

K.O.Kiki

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£92.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - A320M PRO-VH PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£48.91 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£31.96 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 4 GB NITRO+ Video Card (£149.99)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT WH ATX Mid Tower Case (£34.29 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£42.64 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £447.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-24 21:18 GMT+0000

I re-read your 1st post & you said you're not overclocking, so I guess going A320 motherboard & Ryzen 5-1400 should be ok.

Spaz

Thanks, does anyone have any other suggestions or is ko's build the best one?

Spaz

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£92.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£53.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£31.58 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 4 GB NITRO+ Video Card (£149.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£42.64 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £418.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-25 17:38 GMT+0000

I have come up with this build with some help. I decided to go for a B350 motherboard for the ability to overclock in the future.

I have found this case on ebuyer (conveniant since I'm buying my graphics card there) https://www.ebuyer.com/862451-kolink-aviator-m-rgb-micro-atx-gaming-case-black-ca-02y-kk
It comes with two fans and is RGB which is a nice bonus. Will this case suite or are there better ones around 30 pound on either Amazon or Ebuyer preferably black or black/blue and a side view (even if it is only plastic). Oddly the case is not on partpicker despite being on ebuyer.

Does anyone have any recommendations for different parts or case? Thanks

TerrorFirmer

Looks grand, you may be able to get faster ram for a similar price which does make a small difference, also you can get a 240GB SSD for not much more also. But fundamentally looks grand.

You can also get A320M boards for a similar price that have 4 ram banks, so future upgrades would require another set of 2x4, rather than having to buy a new set of 2x8. That B350M board you've chosen is not really going to be any good for overclocking anyway. You would need a better B350M for that with proper heatsinks.

Those Kolink cases are not great. Not good quality and the fans have terrible airflow.

Spaz

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Looks grand, you may be able to get faster ram for a similar price which does make a small difference, also you can get a 240GB SSD for not much more also. But fundamentally looks grand.

You can also get A320M boards for a similar price that have 4 ram banks, so future upgrades would require another set of 2x4, rather than having to buy a new set of 2x8. That B350M board you've chosen is not really going to be any good for overclocking anyway. You would need a better B350M for that with proper heatsinks.

Those Kolink cases are not great. Not good quality and the fans have terrible airflow.

What about this build?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£92.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£57.59 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£56.29 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital - Green 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£31.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 4 GB NITRO+ Video Card (£149.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Aerocool - Cylon ATX Mid Tower Case (£42.52 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£42.64 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £473.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-26 15:13 GMT+0000

The build is about £20 over budget but I did manage to get really cheap 2x4gb DDR4 3000 ram which I think is worth the extra £10 pounds or so.

Also what do you think of the case? I essentially want to have a case and 2 fans for a £40 budget. (2 fans would be about £6 so if the case doesnt come with fans it needs to be about £34. I want a side panel and the case to be black or black/blue or black with rgb. I can buy from the 3 merchants on the parts list. Should I stick with the case I have or change? And are all the other parts grand.