Darndale Dirtbag Dirtbikes

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Pherekydes wrote: »

Naw, they're too busy catching speeders on the N4 and the M50.

When have you ever seen a speed check on the M50? I drive it daily and have never seen one, but sure, those damn guards, eh?

Pherekydes

fullstop wrote: »

When have you ever seen a speed check on the M50? I drive it daily and have never seen one, but sure, those damn guards, eh?

Every Christmas day.

Bonzo Delaney

begbysback wrote: »

Apt username - sounds like something a kid on a scrambler would shout when passing

Wtf are you talking about "apt user name" ???

anewme

The actual meaning of "working class" has changed.

It used to be people who worked, or at least wanted to work, as many lost their jobs through the recession of the 80's.

We were working class, had Irish dancing lessons / drama lessons (the ostentatious paid it off by the week) and often no food or bread and sugar on a Wednesday till payday Thursday. People often had to go to the begging clinic or Vinnie the Pooh, when things got really bad or the lights got turned off. People wanted to work and the lesson to me was to do well at school so you don't have to have an unskilled job. The Other message was to pay off your house so "they" cant throw you out.

Now the "working class" don't work at all. They do t want to do anything but want everything for nothing. They want the working class who are probably now the middle class to pay it off fir them.

I saw about 15 of those scramblers driving dangerously through Clondalkin up from Neilstien today. Apparently the people there are really plagued with them. They turned a corner and nearly drove into an oldish woman. They were not Travellers but what would be described as "skangers".

begbysback

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

Wtf are you talking about "apt user name" ???

The monkey

Still waters

begbysback wrote: »

Daddy’s a developer and mammys a party organizer, and I believe horse riding is an important life lesson?

that's funny, my father was a plasterer with different builders throughout his lifetime, my mother worked in a guesthouse in the summer, still does occasionally when the busy time comes around, I myself work in the buildings now and enjoy to this day the skills I learnt in exchange for cleaning out stables, washing and feeding horses, horse riding isn't a very important life lesson but learning that working towards something can get you what you want in this life within reason is what I'm getting at, apologies if this doesn't tally with what you expected of me, their seems to be no clown emoji available on boards for me to fully convey what I really think of you

Pkiernan

I wonder when Sinn Fein will call for a petrol and 2 stroke oil allowance to be added to the Xmas double dole.

BeerWolf

Pherekydes wrote: »

Every Christmas day.

Didn't see any driving back from Wicklow to Dublin.

pablo128

BeerWolf wrote: »

Didn't see any driving back from Wicklow to Dublin.

Didn't see any between Tallaght and Liffey Valley either.

Yous are all missing what happened. Christmas Eve an unmarked Garda car seized a scrambler. While they were doing that, a gang of lads on bikes surrounded them trying to intimidate them. One of the bucko's smashed in a couple of windows of the Garda car.

Well they got a nice surprise the next day, didn't they. 5 arrested and 11 bikes took. Payback.

ZX7R

There is a very easy way to put a stop to this,A racing licence and proof of racing compitions entered or proof of ownership of farm ect. Or permit issued like a gun licence proof of permission of land needed before bike shops can sell them.
Don't know how to control private sales though?

pablo128

ZX7R wrote: »

There is a very easy way to put a stop to this,A racing licence and proof of racing compitions entered or proof of ownership of farm ect. Or permit issued like a gun licence proof of permission of land needed before bike shops can sell them.
Don't know how to control private sales though?

Or don't buy your kid a dirt bike unless you have a van or car and trailer to bring them somewhere suitable. The mountains are less than 40 minutes from any part of Dublin.

Vic_08

pablo128 wrote: »

Didn't see any between Tallaght and Liffey Valley either.

Yous are all missing what happened. Christmas Eve an unmarked Garda car seized a scrambler. While they were doing that, a gang of lads on bikes surrounded them trying to intimidate them. One of the bucko's smashed in a couple of windows of the Garda car.

Well they got a nice surprise the next day, didn't they. 5 arrested and 11 bikes took. Payback.

That should be the response to attacks on the public, not just a special effort when one of their own is humiliated by the scum.

Look at the poor Lithuanian guy linked above, if that wasn't a reason to go nuclear on this problem...

ZX7R

pablo128 wrote: »

Or don't buy your kid a dirt bike unless you have a van or car and trailer to bring them somewhere suitable. The mountains are less than 40 minutes from any part of Dublin.

Most of them should not be parents in the first place, so just thinking of removing access from them it would be easier

Sweet.Science

I really can’t get my head around these people

Have they no self awareness and can’t see how disgusting they are ?

Parenting or just born that way ? Who knows

begbysback

Still waters wrote: »

that's funny, my father was a plasterer with different builders throughout his lifetime, my mother worked in a guesthouse in the summer, still does occasionally when the busy time comes around, I myself work in the buildings now and enjoy to this day the skills I learnt in exchange for cleaning out stables, washing and feeding horses, horse riding isn't a very important life lesson but learning that working towards something can get you what you want in this life within reason is what I'm getting at, apologies if this doesn't tally with what you expected of me, their seems to be no clown emoji available on boards for me to fully convey what I really think of you

:rolleyes:

Captain Obvious

Still waters wrote: »

yes of course we should, I'm from a working class family, my father is in the buildings my mother in hospitality, I wanted to learn how to ride horses when I was 11 or 12, so my father got me a job cleaning out stables with a local horse breeder, my payment was riding lessons, no money only hard work exchanged to learn an important life lesson, the more we give these scum for nothing the more they expect for nothing, Dublin is booming, let them learn the value of hard work and stop treating them with kid gloves, it's like we reward these people for acts of criminality

They had an issue with horses in Ballyfermot. They built and equipped a large equestrian centre for the youths to bring their horses and learn how to care for them. Now they have a bike problem. This isn't about having somewhere to practice a hobby. They don't want to do legal things.

orourkeda1977 wrote: »

I'm from Cabra and still live in the area.

Irelands favourite and most upstanding ethnic minority again.

The bike issue doesn't really have anything to do with travellers.

antodeco wrote: »

Drive 5kmh over the speed limit and forget your licence, when on a learners permit, you're banned.

Drive the wrong way down the road over paths with no safety equipment, and you're fine.

About 3 weeks ago, the above happened in front of me. Weaving around oncoming traffic. One of them a Garda car. They just kept driving. Catching these scrotes on the bikes is too much hassle for the Gardai so they don't bother. And the scrotes know that.

It's been made clear in the media lately. Gardaí have been told not to pursue them and been told that they face financial liability if they do and one is injured. It's also been made clear that the legislation needs to be changed to properly address the issue because the current definition of where road traffic laws apply excludes parks and fields.

Melodeon

pablo128 wrote: »

Or don't buy your kid a dirt bike unless you have a van or car and trailer to bring them somewhere suitable. The mountains are less than 40 minutes from any part of Dublin.

The owners of 'the mountains', both private and public, absolutely DO NOT want any sort of unauthorised freestyle dirtbiking activity on the lands under their care.

Esel

If the bikes are the cheap Chinese yokes most of the engines will have seized up in a few weeks - hopefully.

pablo128

Melodeon wrote: »

The owners of 'the mountains', both private and public, absolutely DO NOT want any sort of unauthorised freestyle dirtbiking activity on the lands under their care.

Well it fcuking beats tearing past shop and schools on the footpaths, doesn't it?

I'm up the mountains often enough as I live right next to them. The vast majority of the time there is no one around.

Actually do you have a workable solution?

anewme

Captain Obvious wrote: »

They had an issue with horses in Ballyfermot. They built and equipped a large equestrian centre for the youths to bring their horses and learn how to care for them. Now they have a bike problem. This isn't about having somewhere to practice a hobby. They don't want to do legal things.





The bike issue doesn't really have anything to do with travellers.





It's been made clear in the media lately. Gardaí have been told not to pursue them and been told that they face financial liability if they do and one is injured. It's also been made clear that the legislation needs to be changed to properly address the issue because the current definition of where road traffic laws apply excludes parks and fields.

There's still a huge horse problem in Ballyfermot. The horse initiative was a good one, however it really only captured the people with a genuine interest in animals.

The other scum still ill treat the horses, take a look at the work "my lovely horse" rescue do in West Dublin. I'm in awe of these people for the situations they face.

I also dontt see the bike issue as Travellers. Travellers are those racing gig things that should
Be banned. The ones where the horses drop dead like the one on the Cold Cut Road, where they fckrd off left the horse dying in the road after collapsing having been run into the ground and leaving schoolchildren to see it.

They tear up the main roads in Clondalkin on their scramblers over both railway bridges. It can only be a matter of time before there is a tragedy. I only hope the tragedy is one of them and not an innocent person.

begbysback

Bongoloid wrote: »

In a perfect world you could let them race around until they just kill themselves.

Or, maybe try to understand why they do it, and provide a solution?

El_Bee

pablo128 wrote: »

Didn't see any between Tallaght and Liffey Valley either.

Yous are all missing what happened. Christmas Eve an unmarked Garda car seized a scrambler. While they were doing that, a gang of lads on bikes surrounded them trying to intimidate them. One of the bucko's smashed in a couple of windows of the Garda car.

Well they got a nice surprise the next day, didn't they. 5 arrested and 11 bikes took. Payback.

So it was just a case of vengeance for one of their own, rather than any kind of effort to deliver peace to the areas plagued by these scumbags? And then the Gardai wonder why we have no faith in them.

pablo128

El_Bee wrote: »

So it was just a case of vengeance for one of their own, rather than any kind of effort to deliver peace to the areas plagued by these scumbags? And then the Gardai wonder why we have no faith in them.

It certainly looks that way. Why aren't they doing this sort of thing weekly?

frag420

begbysback wrote: »

Or, maybe try to understand why they do it, and provide a solution?

They do it because they are uneducated, scumbag cünts who don’t care for anyone other than themselves and anything that does not belong to them!!

Solution? Forced sterilisation would be a good start! The fact we need a licence to own a dog in this country but these fooking wasters can sh!t out little scumbags at will is beyond me!

anewme

begbysback wrote: »

Or, maybe try to understand why they do it, and provide a solution?

Ah would you cop on.

They are only scum.

The Herald today has an article about the innocent chap who is permanently disabled because of these scroungers.

The reason they do it is because people like you constantly make excuses and allowances for them instead of condemning their scumbag behaviour.

zapitastas

pablo128 wrote: »

Well it fcuking beats tearing past shop and schools on the footpaths, doesn't it?

I'm up the mountains often enough as I live right next to them. The vast majority of the time there is no one around.

Actually do you have a workable solution?

If they are really interested then they can participate in motocross, get off public areas.

begbysback

anewme wrote: »

Ah would you cop on.

They are only scum.

The Herald today has an article about the innocent chap who is permanently disabled because of these scroungers.

The reason they do it is because people like you constantly make excuses and allowances for them instead of condemning their scumbag behaviour.

Feel free to add here 1 excuse I have made for any antisocial behavior

condemn it or condone it on boards, makes zero difference, nobody’s counting - point to an incident and stand in outrage, makes zero difference. The usual solutions are copy n pasted here - cull, castrate and condemn, rather than join in I would prefer an alternative approach and ask what is it we would need to understand in order to provide a solution?

I know it’s a minority approach, but hey I’m more logical than emotional, i understand I may be getting in the way of good thereputic hate session, but don’t make up stuff and accuse me of making excuses for such behavior.

pablo128

zapitastas wrote: »

If they are really interested then they can participate in motocross, get off public areas.

Are there any tracks in or around Dublin?

hmmm

pablo128 wrote: »

Actually do you have a workable solution?

Get a job and buy some land if you want to wreck it on your scrambler, or enter competitions. The way people who work for a living and aren't anti-social muppets have to do it.

zetecescort

pablo128 wrote: »

Are there any tracks in or around Dublin?

Like the lads racing sulkies on roads they should piss off and buy land themselves and do something constructive for once

ZX7R

zapitastas wrote: »

If they are really interested then they can participate in motocross, get off public areas.

Because Motocross is a sport that takes dedication skill and money and support,all of which they do not have and the more they breed never will .

pablo128

hmmm wrote: »

Get a job and buy some land if you want to wreck it on your scrambler, or enter competitions. The way people who work for a living and aren't anti-social muppets have to do it.

I'd bet most of the parents who bought those bikes are working. They aren't cheap.

How much land would you need? And how much would it cost if you don't mind me asking?

Regardless, an earlier point of mine still stands. The parents would need a van or car and trailer to transport the machine.

gctest50

pablo128 wrote: »

Are there any tracks in or around Dublin?

.

begbysback

frag420 wrote: »

They do it because they are uneducated, scumbag cünts who don’t care for anyone other than themselves and anything that does not belong to them!!

Solution? Forced sterilisation would be a good start! The fact we need a licence to own a dog in this country but these fooking wasters can sh!t out little scumbags at will is beyond me!

I agree, the problem is that they are uneducated, (one of the requirements for some definitions of “working class”) and they don’t care - the additional theatrical language is probably not necessary and I would suggest maybe try to take the emotion out of it, this clouds your judgement, as can be seen in your solution.

Have you ever asked yourself why they are uneducated and why they don’t care?

pablo128

Looks like there's another one in Mulhuddart too. No excuse so. Load the bikes and gear into a van and off for the day.

I genuinely didn't know there were 2 tracks in Dublin. I've never seen them advertised at all.

Captain Obvious

anewme wrote: »

There's still a huge horse problem in Ballyfermot. The horse initiative was a good one, however it really only captured the people with a genuine interest in animals.

The other scum still ill treat the horses, take a look at the work "my lovely horse" rescue do in West Dublin. I'm in awe of these people for the situations they face.

I also dontt see the bike issue as Travellers. Travellers are those racing gig things that should
Be banned. The ones where the horses drop dead like the one on the Cold Cut Road, where they fckrd off left the horse dying in the road after collapsing having been run into the ground and leaving schoolchildren to see it.

They tear up the main roads in Clondalkin on their scramblers over both railway bridges. It can only be a matter of time before there is a tragedy. I only hope the tragedy is one of them and not an innocent person.

Unfortunately the My Lovely Horse crowd don't work great with the Gardaí around there.


There was tragedy the Christmas before last. Teenager killed on his new bike. There was another fella brain damaged last year.

gctest50

pablo128 wrote: »

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I genuinely didn't know there were 2 tracks in Dublin. I've never seen them advertised at all.

since 2010-ish,

.......volunteers giving their time even during the week

mynamejeff

begbysback wrote: »

Or, maybe try to understand why they do it, and provide a solution?

they do it because they can get way with it ,

the solution is to regulate and licence them until they behave in a unscumbag manner and harshly punish those who dont follow the regulations, seize and destroy bikes fine heavily and for continued behavior jail to prevent harm to non scumbags

Jeff2

The link in the op I'd say most of the lads are over 18yo and with 5 stolen bikes it wasn't the parents buying bikes for kids for Christmas.

anewme

begbysback wrote: »

Feel free to add here 1 excuse I have made for any antisocial behavior

condemn it or condone it on boards, makes zero difference, nobody’s counting - point to an incident and stand in outrage, makes zero difference. The usual solutions are copy n pasted here - cull, castrate and condemn, rather than join in I would prefer an alternative approach and ask what is it we would need to understand in order to provide a solution?

I know it’s a minority approach, but hey I’m more logical than emotional, i understand I may be getting in the way of good thereputic hate session, but don’t make up stuff and accuse me of making excuses for such behavior.

Well you've already shown you've no idea how the real working classes live by your comments to a previous poster.

Working class oeople who work hard and achieved better would probably be the first to have zero tolerance for these type of people because they see they are freeloaders.

I don't want my 71 year old Mum mown down by these skangers .because they have no respect for anyone.

You come across as if working class people should be poor wlabd crass - "you had riding lessons? "

It's not hatred to want your Mum to be able to buy her.fresh Brennan's pan in the local shop without being mown down by these fools.

Maybe people who grew up in these areas might have a better idea of how it works as they have actually lived there, rather than throwing sugar from afar without dealing with the fallout , "we need to understand why they are doing it?" ...who actually swallows this nonsense?

frag420

begbysback wrote: »

I agree, the problem is that they are uneducated, (one of the requirements for some definitions of “working class”) and they don’t care - the additional theatrical language is probably not necessary and I would suggest maybe try to take the emotion out of it, this clouds your judgement, as can be seen in your solution.

Have you ever asked yourself why they are uneducated and why they don’t care?

They don’t care because they are uneducated scumbags and they are uneducated scumbags because they don’t care as there are folks like yourself ready to make excuses for their shîtty behaviour!!

StereoSound

I have seen dick heads around Nutgrove D14 on dirt bikes ripping up and down the road over recent years. I'm sure the locals are well aware. Saw the Gardai chasing them on one ocassion.

El_Bee

begbysback wrote: »

I agree, the problem is that they are uneducated, (one of the requirements for some definitions of “working class”) and they don’t care - the additional theatrical language is probably not necessary and I would suggest maybe try to take the emotion out of it, this clouds your judgement, as can be seen in your solution.

Have you ever asked yourself why they are uneducated and why they don’t care?

I don't know how to word it properly, but there is a pervasive malice that permeates through these areas, Bad is good, Bad is fun, you can get a laugh out of doing Bad things, especially when it's at another persons expense, this is the primary motivator in anti-social behaviour, and nothing, absolutely nothing is going to change that.

El_Bee

gctest50 wrote: »

since 2010-ish,

.......volunteers giving their time even during the week

These bikes are taxed and road legal, their owners have licenses and receipts for the bikes they bought from legitimate dealers, you won't see the lads currently riding up and down the road outside at these tracks because they have none of these things.

Esel

Buy land! FFS

pablo128

El_Bee wrote: »

These bikes are taxed and road legal, their owners have licenses and receipts for the bikes they bought from legitimate dealers, you won't see the lads currently riding up and down the road outside at these tracks because they have none of these things.

Why would you need tax and insurance and show a receipt for the bike at an off road track? It kind of defies the point.

I think you're talking rubbish by the way. To insure a bike it needs to be road legal. Those bikes didn't have headlights or indicators. Or road tyres

5T3PH3N

El_Bee wrote: »

These bikes are taxed and road legal, their owners have licenses and receipts for the bikes they bought from legitimate dealers, you won't see the lads currently riding up and down the road outside at these tracks because they have none of these things.

The bikes in that clip are not taxed at all and are not near road legal. The riders should have a race license to get out on the track for the day.

batman_oh

El_Bee wrote: »

These bikes are taxed and road legal, their owners have licenses and receipts for the bikes they bought from legitimate dealers, you won't see the lads currently riding up and down the road outside at these tracks because they have none of these things.

This is all nonsense. Most don’t even have licenses. And even if it was fully legal wheelieng up a foot path isn’t

Jeff2

I'm lost as to what working class has to do with this.?
People arguing over what is working class. ?

frag420

Jeff2 wrote: »

I'm lost as to what working class has to do with this.?
People arguing over what is working class. ?

Lazy workshy criminal class is more apt I would think as there are plenty of decent people on those estates that do actually go to work and it’s unfair to lump them in with the scumbags!