Off-Topic Thread V3.0

M00lers

Just after mangling a load of pins on my 3700x....fu£#!

z0oT

z0oT wrote: »

Does that mean that for an M.2 connector that supports NVMe drives and SATA drives that it still consumes 4 PCIe lanes in the case of a SATA drive even thought it wouldn't be required? I guess it probably does, as it comes down to how the motherboard is wired really.

Actually... now that I think about it more, it's obvious - The motherboard will be wired such that there are 4 lanes going from the CPU or the chipset to the M.2 connector.

That means even if you stick a SATA M.2 into the connector, you won't be able to use those 4 lanes for anything else even if SATA just really needs a single PCIe lane from a speed perspective.

To switch the lanes to something else you'd probably need to do what those Quad SLI capable Z77 boards used to do where they'd split up the lanes in funky ways.

wotzgoingon

M00lers wrote: »

Just after mangling a load of pins on my 3700x....fu£#!

How did you do that?

You hardly tried to insert it without lining up the triangles? And if so you must have pushed down with a fair bit of force.

M00lers

wotzgoingon wrote: »

How did you do that?

You hardly tried to insert it without lining up the triangles? And if so you must have pushed down with a fair bit of force.

****in amateur hour mistake, I was swapping coolers and was doing it without having warmed up the PC. Removed cooler and CPU was stuck to cooler and I didn't notice, was twisting and pulling and dragging before I noticed.
I may have salvaged it though, a tweezers (thanks the verge ) and a Stanley blade and it's now sitting back in socket. Should've been a surgeon. Hopefully it will post/boot up.

EoinHef

How was it stuck to the cooler? Surely the retention bracket should have stopped the CPU from coming out of the socket

Best of luck with it man,mangaled a Z77 socket a few years ago myself. Was so bummed about it:(

M00lers

EoinHef wrote: »

How was it stuck to the cooler? Surely the retention bracket should have stopped the CPU from coming out of the socket

Best of luck with it man,mangaled a Z77 socket a few years ago myself. Was so bummed about it:(

Paste was like glue and held the CPU on cooler and then it popped out like the retention bracket wasn't even there. Wouldn't mind but I've done it before myself with an old FX jobbie, you'd think once is enough to learn... obviously not!

z0oT

M00lers wrote: »

2TB Adata XPG SX8200 PRO is a good price on CCL. I came to the conclusion that the small increase in cost was worth it for a better drive.

I'm just after coming to that same conclusion. I went for a Corsair MP510 in the end given it wasn't much more expensive than the Intel 660p.

Homelander

The exact same thing happened me before with an fx 6300, that AMD bracket thing is useless compared to the Intel design, really easy for that to happen (pull it out of the socket I mean, luckily I never damaged pins)

jaxxx

Been oohing and awing for a few years now to buy a new rig as my current one is near a decade old and cannot handle the demands of modern day games. It's the best thing I've ever bought, so it's more than earned it's retirement. I don't know a thing about building computers, or even going about deciding which components to use. I know it's cheaper to buy all the parts separately and put it together, but I'd rather pay a small bit more in the knowledge that it's put together by people who know what they're doing. I've been looking at some companies like PC Specialist and CCL Computers. Was just wondering whether anyone here has used them before?

Homelander

I find the best value can be had from AWD or CCL. The premium for it being a pre-built is very reasonable. Best customer service/warranty handling, OCUK I would say. For PC's already built I mean.

Self building is not hard though and putting the savings aside you get a say in absoutely everything, ideal case that suits you, graphics card that suits you (in terms of cooling and noise), etc.

But really a bog standard PC from ccl or awd, once you chose the right options and good ram, is not very expensive compared to building yourself at all, maybe 10% higher or something like that once you buy smart from them, they tend to have good discounts on certain machines at all times.

SweetCaliber

Anyone know if the AMD Wraith Max Cooler will be alright for OC'ing the 3600 or am I better off going third party? AIO?

Homelander

More than enough. Just manually set the fan curve, it can be loud. I have mine set to never exceed 30% and still does the job great, gets some bad press from people who leave the board at stock setting.

celticsfan

Hi Folks

Just wondering has anyone used the Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut pads between their cpu and cooler?? If so how was performance,or would you be better to stick to the paste??

Cheers

Xenoronin

celticsfan wrote: »

Hi Folks

Just wondering has anyone used the Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut pads between their cpu and cooler?? If so how was performance,or would you be better to stick to the paste??

Cheers

From what I remember of reviews, paste is still better. These are a niche product that works best for reviewers who don't want to spend loads of money on paste, and need to swap cooler/cpu regularly on testbench systems. I think Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut is still technically best on the market for paste, but the delta between it and any other decent brand (arctic silver, noctua, etc) is minimal if cost is a concern.

Headshot

Any Stadia gamers about.

Be curious to know hows the experience going?

Calvin

Headshot wrote: »

Any Stadia gamers about.

Be curious to know hows the experience going?

One of my pals is using a service similar to Stadia known as Shadow. As expected, with <10 Mbps DL, there’s no hope at all for those of us out there suffering from poor internet (myself included). He told me aside from his internet occasionally dropping to <10 Mbps, it runs very smoothly. Input delay is non-existent. Only downside to Shadow is that it’s only available in the UK atm!

K.O.Kiki

Had a set of those before and they really aren't that great. Much better off saving a bit more and getting a pair of their X2HR's.

wotzgoingon

Just watched Gamers Nexus review of Stadia. Pure garbage for a launch. You have to go through many loops to try and set it up and in the end you also need a Pixel phone to enable the device. They didn't even mention gameplay. Must be trash.

PopePalpatine

That reminds me, I can't wait to catch up with tonight's Castle Super Beast podcast.

Headshot

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Just watched Gamers Nexus review of Stadia. Pure garbage for a launch. You have to go through many loops to try and set it up and in the end you also need a Pixel phone to enable the device. They didn't even mention gameplay. Must be trash.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/68845/stadia-data-hog-consume-119mb-per-minute/index.html

"According to VentureBeat, Google Stadia can consume over 100MB per minute when streaming games in 1080p 60FPS. After 13 minutes of Red Dead Redemption 2 in 1080p 60FPS, the outlet says Stadia had used 1.55GB of data. And honestly in an intensely grindy, slow-burn game like Red Dead Redemption 2, 13 minutes accomplishes absolutely nothing."

You'd want to with a provider with unlimited cap

Cuddlesworth

wotzgoingon wrote: »

They didn't even mention gameplay. Must be trash.

You missed the part where little to none of the pre-order people have codes to activate.

There is a theory that they are waiting to send the emails in order of purchase, to appease their unique username per purchaser. But if somebody misses the delivery, it delays the whole thing by a day. With a couple of hundred people, maybe a lost package or two, suddenly you get a stupid system like this.

Headshot wrote: »

You'd want to with a provider with unlimited cap

It's about 15Mbps solid, it would have to be a pointlessly high bitrate for that. Might just be for the reviewers so their are less graphical glitches for them.

wotzgoingon

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

You missed the part where little to none of the pre-order people have codes to activate.

I skipped over some of it as he was repeating himself a few times.

K.O.Kiki

Casual reminder:
UserBenchmarks is not a good comparison tool.

Cuddlesworth

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Casual reminder:
UserBenchmarks is not a good comparison tool.

I think people are being a bit unrealistic about what exactly userbenchmark is trying to do.

If you said to me, I wanna build a new pc for office work, spreadsheets, word, outlook etc. Should I buy this new theadripper alienware system with the top specs so I have a fast PC or should I buy a cheap dell with a 9100F, is that website wrong?

K.O.Kiki

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

I think people are being a bit unrealistic about what exactly userbenchmark is trying to do.

If you said to me, I wanna build a new pc for office work, spreadsheets, word, outlook etc. Should I buy this new theadripper alienware system with the top specs so I have a fast PC or should I buy a cheap dell with a 9100F, is that website wrong?

They are still the top-3 result for "x CPU vs y CPU" and yet their results are objectively wrong.
It's mildly infuriating.

K.O.Kiki

GTX 1650 Super review (incl. benchmarks vs RX 5500)

TitianGerm

NZXT H510 down to £55 on Amazon. Is there any reason why I shouldn't buy this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07SGWLD2C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_fUg2Db5RHS207

K.O.Kiki

Tempered Glass bad.

TitianGerm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Tempered Glass bad.

I have it on my current case and it's never been an issue. I know it can shatter though.