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TheDoc

yoshiktk wrote: »

Sorry to hear that. I though that they did already fix the driver issues?
I'm still torn between rx5700 or xt or maybe 2070s.

I don’t know. Latest update for drivers was the 18th.

I didn’t get a chance to test things after doing the DDU thing so will see how it goes tonight. Fingers crossed

BloodBath

TheDoc wrote: »

Really enjoying how my PC is crashing. So the "cold boot" seems to have just randomly fixed itself, but now in Total Warhammer II I'm at this battle, where the game loads then PC crashes.

Just comes up saying "No display found".

Might look at sending this graphics card back and getting another one, really ****ing annoying

Not having those issues myself but that does happen sometimes when I turn the monitor off and back on again while the PC is still running. Then it sometimes won't detect the signal and I have to turn the monitor off and on again a few times. Not sure if it's the card or the monitor though.

The card sometimes makes weird fan noises. It's fine most of the time but it seems at certain rpm's it vibrates or something. Have thought about sending it back myself to get this one. Of course this wasn't available 3 weeks ago when I ordered the other 1.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Radeon-RX-5700-Gaming/dp/B07WSGZH6S/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=gigabyte+5700&qid=1577298922&sr=8-1

TheDoc

That was the card I was originally going to get. Although CCL didn’t seem to have it.

Fact it’s around the same price as the XFX feeling like I made a poor choice.

Doubt I can get a refund from ccl so hopefully can just get the problems ironed out

Edit: actually just mailed them there to see what my options are on a refund. Or if they can source me a Gigabyte OC model.

Could be just a faulty card that if replaced would be better but for 400 quid I’m just not into this messing around with ****

yoshiktk

TheDoc wrote: »

That was the card I was originally going to get. Although CCL didn’t seem to have it.

Fact it’s around the same price as the XFX feeling like I made a poor choice.

Doubt I can get a refund from ccl so hopefully can just get the problems ironed out

Edit: actually just mailed them there to see what my options are on a refund. Or if they can source me a Gigabyte OC model.

Could be just a faulty card that if replaced would be better but for 400 quid I’m just not into this messing around with ****

I presume that You have checked alle the usual things? Psu,logs, card in other pc, etc?
Ccl I think have like 30 days for replacement/exchange and after this time its warranty repair.

TheDoc

yoshiktk wrote: »

I presume that You have checked alle the usual things? Psu,logs, card in other pc, etc?
Ccl I think have like 30 days for replacement/exchange and after this time its warranty repair.

Cool bought it on 13th so have time left. Will wait for them to get back to me anyway.

Don’t have a way to check it in another PC. Pretty happy all cabling and the likes are in correctly etc.

When you say logs. There logs I can check to see what happens when it crashes ?

yoshiktk

TheDoc wrote: »

When you say logs. There logs I can check to see what happens when it crashes ?

Press windows key+r, enter eventvwr. There You can check logs, if it's the driver crashing it should be shown there. But it could be a driver issue or some 3rd party compatibility problem as well. Hard to say. My friend had a similar issue, two PC's with the same parts, one card wouldn't work properly at all, but with some magic when was installed in the second machine all problems went away.
I really start to believe that hardware have "souls" and "feelings" but that's a long story.

TheDoc

yoshiktk wrote: »

Press windows key+r, enter eventvwr. There You can check logs, if it's the driver crashing it should be shown there. But it could be a driver issue or some 3rd party compatibility problem as well. Hard to say. My friend had a similar issue, two PC's with the same parts, one card wouldn't work properly at all, but with some magic when was installed in the second machine all problems went away.
I really start to believe that hardware have "souls" and "feelings" but that's a long story.

Haha. Thanks will check this out.

Also found a good thread on reddit that has about 9 things to do for RX 5700 problems. Some I discovered myself and had sorted some others though I hadn’t tried.

However does go to show the problems that AMD can have. One fix is disabling free sync. Another is disabling all Radeon software haha.

yoshiktk

TheDoc wrote: »

Haha. Thanks will check this out.

Also found a good thread on reddit that has about 9 things to do for RX 5700 problems. Some I discovered myself and had sorted some others though I hadn’t tried.

However does go to show the problems that AMD can have. One fix is disabling free sync. Another is disabling all Radeon software haha.

To be honest, I stopped checking reddit, whenever I was looking for advice whether it's worth buying something or not, most of the time I would find threads about problems.
Nvidia is an option but with a recent purchase of VR set my wife won't be happy if I spend another 600€+ on gpu, the 5700 it's a quite good middle-ground option.

K.O.Kiki

Chuck Peddle (father of the 6502) died on the 25th there.

https://hackaday.com/2019/12/25/honoring-chuck-peddle-father-of-the-6502-and-the-chips-that-went-with-it/

Kimbot

yoshiktk wrote: »

Sorry to hear that. I though that they did already fix the driver issues?
I'm still torn between rx5700 or xt or maybe 2070s.

I have to say I'm impressed with my powercolor red devil 5700xt, so much so that I just bought another one for my young lads new pc. Amd's "raise the game" offer is available until the 31st December on a few sites like scan etc so the free xbox pass and game is a nice bonus

yoshiktk

Kimbot wrote: »

I have to say I'm impressed with my powercolor red devil 5700xt, so much so that I just bought another one for my young lads new pc. Amd's "raise the game" offer is available until the 31st December on a few sites like scan etc so the free xbox pass and game is a nice bonus

I already ordered one, the HardwareUnboxed 5700vs2070 made me go towards Red Devil in the end. As I went with budget option for monitor last year, 1440p@75Hz, the 2070s would be an overkill until I would get a new one. Plus the few percent improwement for additional 150€ more is not worth it.
Did You had to play with it?Voltage, fan curve or was it good from the start?
Have now rx580, really great card but took me some time to get it to the state that it doesnt sound like starting jumbojet with temps going up to 85°C.

wotzgoingon

yoshiktk wrote: »

I already ordered one, the HardwareUnboxed 5700vs2070 made me go towards Red Devil in the end. As I went with budget option for monitor last year, 1440p@75Hz, the 2070s would be an overkill until I would get a new one. Plus the few percent improwement for additional 150€ more is not worth it.
Did You had to play with it?Voltage, fan curve or was it good from the start?
Have now rx580, really great card but took me some time to get it to the state that it doesnt sound like starting jumbojet with temps going up to 85°C.

I doubt it as I have a reference 5700 XT and find it doesn't get loud while gaming.

Kimbot

yoshiktk wrote: »

I already ordered one, the HardwareUnboxed 5700vs2070 made me go towards Red Devil in the end. As I went with budget option for monitor last year, 1440p@75Hz, the 2070s would be an overkill until I would get a new one. Plus the few percent improwement for additional 150€ more is not worth it.
Did You had to play with it?Voltage, fan curve or was it good from the start?
Have now rx580, really great card but took me some time to get it to the state that it doesnt sound like starting jumbojet with temps going up to 85°C.

All default and running great with no issues

yoshiktk

Kimbot wrote: »

All default and running great with no issues

Great, now I only have to wait. Hate December, worst time to order something.

Kimbot

yoshiktk wrote: »

Great, now I only have to wait. Hate December, worst time to order something.

I ordered another one off scan on Friday and should've here on Tuesday which isn't bad

TheDoc

WE DID IT TEAM

Finally figured out what was causing the display to not work on first boot. Having scoured the internet found a random little video on youtube of a guy with some weird accent explaining the problem I was having along with all the troubleshooting I had done.

Then he pops into Control panel -> Hardware -> what do power buttons do, and unticks an option called fast boot

Turned this off, and now PC firing up on first boot. Delighted, this was the last little niggle and problem I have had.

Still not enamored with all the messing and fiddling I've had to do with this AMD platform change, but atleast now if I can get a good run with no hiccups I can really start to appreciate the upgrade

wotzgoingon

TheDoc wrote: »

WE DID IT TEAM

Finally figured out what was causing the display to not work on first boot. Having scoured the internet found a random little video on youtube of a guy with some weird accent explaining the problem I was having along with all the troubleshooting I had done.

Then he pops into Control panel -> Hardware -> what do power buttons do, and unticks an option called fast boot

Turned this off, and now PC firing up on first boot. Delighted, this was the last little niggle and problem I have had.

Still not enamored with all the messing and fiddling I've had to do with this AMD platform change, but atleast now if I can get a good run with no hiccups I can really start to appreciate the upgrade

Mad. At least you have it sorted. I still don't believe it is AMD's fault which you must be sick of hearing.

TheDoc

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Mad. At least you have it sorted. I still don't believe it is AMD's fault which you must be sick of hearing.

Ah yeah look it seems to be clearer and clearer the more I came across various threads and things bout people having problems like me it's an issue with the 3rd party manufacturers in certain areas, but AMD don't look innocent either when it seems their own software is a cause for a lot of 5700 and 5700XT issues experienced

But look as you say got there in the end, but became very clear to me there is a pretty wide range of issues, that requires a lot of mad **** to be fiddled with to get things working right, or you can be lucky and everything fires up fine. And like I said before, that's always been a reputation for AMd with a lot of people. You are getting performance for cheaper, but generally with some more headaches and fiddling around

Also this setting seemingly is enabled with the AMD Ryzen Balanced powerplan, which comes as part of their chipset update?

yoshiktk

And Now for Something Completely Different, did anyone tried using an old notebook screen as second monitor? I know that I would need a proper controller plus case. Did anyone try that? Need a second monitor at as low cost as possible.

wotzgoingon

yoshiktk wrote: »

And Now for Something Completely Different, did anyone tried using an old notebook screen as second monitor? I know that I would need a proper controller plus case. Did anyone try that? Need a second monitor at as low cost as possible.

Sorry I can't help you but I done it the other way round many years ago. I broke my laptop screen so used my Tv as a screen until I got a replacement.

yoshiktk

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Sorry I can't help you but I done it the other way round many years ago. I broke my laptop screen so used my Tv as a screen until I got a replacement.

I got so used to using two monitors that now with only one it's weird. When I was looking thru adverts, it reminded me that I have two panels from old notebooks, nothing great but i thought that still could work great as second one.
Today I got my box with Rx5700, time to have fun. At last I've the opportunity to clean the box.

iLikeWaffles

yoshiktk wrote: »

And Now for Something Completely Different, did anyone tried using an old notebook screen as second monitor? I know that I would need a proper controller plus case. Did anyone try that? Need a second monitor at as low cost as possible.

If you have the skills/tools/time to do it go for it. Otherwise it is probably cheaper to buy a new monitor. There is plenty of monitors sub €150

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g87NiTsbWUg

yoshiktk

iLikeWaffles wrote: »

If you have the skills/tools/time to do it go for it. Otherwise it is probably cheaper to buy a new monitor. There is plenty of monitors sub €150

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g87NiTsbWUg

I have to get it as low cost as possible, I still have to tell my wifu that I got Oculus
The only thing which I kinda need is 3d printed frame/cover. Controllers can be bought for around 25€, so in total it could be around 50€. I don't know how much the frame could cost me. As an extra project, I will do it sooner or later do it.

K.O.Kiki

Dilemma:
Do I sell the Noctua NH-U14S & make some money back
OR
do I send the Wraith Max to my little cousin, buy a 140mm RGB fan and cool my CPU to 50C?

savemejebus

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Dilemma:
Do I sell the Noctua NH-U14S & make some money back
OR
do I send the Wraith Max to my little cousin, buy a 140mm RGB fan and cool my CPU to 50C?

what happened the liquid freezer that you thought was defective but wasn't in the end?

K.O.Kiki

savemejebus wrote: »

what happened the liquid freezer that you thought was defective but wasn't in the end?

Already on its way back to Amazon by the time I realised the fan buzz was coming from the GPU.
Ended up using that refund to fund the 3600X :pac:

Lesson learnt: test thoroughly.

yoshiktk

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Dilemma:
Do I sell the Noctua NH-U14S & make some money back
OR
do I send the Wraith Max to my little cousin, buy a 140mm RGB fan and cool my CPU to 50C?

Go with another fan? Just for fun did hit my r5 with prime95. Went up to 50°c, but what surprised me tge most cooled down to 32°c in couple of seconds. I was amazed.

Lu Tze

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Dilemma:
Do I sell the Noctua NH-U14S & make some money back
OR
do I send the Wraith Max to my little cousin, buy a 140mm RGB fan and cool my CPU to 50C?

What's wrong with the existing fan on the noctua?

wotzgoingon

Lu Tze wrote: »

What's wrong with the existing fan on the noctua?

I didn't fully understand why he was mentioning the 140mm fan. Oh, right so the Noctua fan is broke.

K.O.Kiki

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I didn't fully understand why he was mentioning the 140mm fan. Oh, right so the Noctua fan is broke.

No no, I just want RGB :pac: