191 reg cars...

Kevin Finnerty

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I always wonder do the owners commonly confuse their silver or at a push gunmetal grey sportage or 5008 with the hoards of other ones in the supermarket car park or outside swimming lessons. The only way to distinguish it must be the reg plate.

Scarlet for susan in her 171 sportage, her PCP deal doesnt end till next year, she cant have the latest in tesco carpark chic just yet, but her 201 faux by four must be on her mind already. Im sure her conversation with all the others in the new build 3 bed semi detached house in some soulless suburb land have already begun. They'll decide on a concensus , itll be silver and bog spec again, but will it be kia, hyundai or possibly Peugeot or Renault this time round.

It's what the manufacturers want. The more of a fashion statement their product Is, the more it'll sell. They want it that way, PCP is the golden ticket.

Saw my first 2 days ago, an i40. 2 191 D reg RR belonging to a local stud id assume the best so far.

Mooooo

Dia1988 wrote: »

Guess what 191KY1 is attached to?


A CLAAS tractor!

For something that'll spend most of it's time in a field that 1k wasn't well spent imo!

If it's a contractors machine prob spend a lot of time on the road. Depending on model the plate would hardly dent the price of it

rainbowtrout

Mooooo wrote: »

If it's a contractors machine prob spend a lot of time on the road. Depending on model the plate would hardly dent the price of it

Might not have been reserved by anyone either.

Duke O Smiley

List of first regs:

Carlow - Audi Q8

Cavan - Ford Ranger

Clare - n/a

Cork - Ford Mondeo

Donegal - Toyota Yaris

Dublin - Volvo S90

Galway - Mercedes Sprinter

Kerry - Claas Arion

Kildare - Hyundai Tucson

Kilkenny - n/a

Laois - Hyundai Santa Fe

Leitrim - Peugeot 3008

Limerick - n/a

Longford - Hyundai i30

Louth - Peugeot 5008

Mayo - Peugeot 2008

Meath - Peugeot 5008

Monaghan - Mercedes Sprinter

Offlay - Skoda Octavia

Roscommon - Hyundai Kona

Sligo - Toyota CH-R

Tipperary - Honda CRV

Waterford - n/a

Westmeath - Nissan Leaf

Wexford - Hyundai Tucson

Wicklow - n/a

Dia1988

That Sprinter will be a minibus probably for Mattthews

Peugeot is really having a come back!

Duke O Smiley

Sprinter, 5008 and Tucson are the most common vehicle on the list, two each.

Peugeot and Hyundai the most common marque, four each.
Scratch that, forgot Kildare, a Tucson.

Carlow is the only exciting result. With a nod to Kerry for something different!

Doesn't JJ Kavanagh usually have no. 1 on a bus every year? Kilkenny I think. Seemingly nothing this year

Dia1988

The JJ Kavanaghs bus probably hasn't arrived yet for registration.

rainbowtrout

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Doesn't JJ Kavanagh usually have no. 1 on a bus every year? Kilkenny I think. Seemingly nothing this year

I think I remember reading on here before that they used to reserve them when reservations were €300, but not after it changed to €1000 and the numbers <200 were no longer reservation only.

Dia1988

rainbowtrout wrote: »

I think I remember reading on here before that they used to reserve them when reservations were €300, but not after it changed to €1000 and the numbers <200 were no longer reservation only.

They had kk1 in 2018 and 2017

rainbowtrout

Dia1988 wrote: »

They had kk1 in 2018 and 2017

But it could simply mean that whoever did the registration got in early with it for them seeing as they seem to buy buses every year so are no more than yer man with his 30 Fords in Laois, a loyal customer.

Kavanagh's haven't got the KK-1 reg every year from recent memory.

EDIT: 131-KK-1 is a Toyota Avensis.
161-KK-1 is a Nissan NV400
No vehicle registered for 151
09-12 are all buses.

Dia1988

rainbowtrout wrote: »

But it could simply mean that whoever did the registration got in early with it for them seeing as they seem to buy buses every year so are no more than yer man with his 30 Fords in Laois, a loyal customer.

Kavanagh's haven't got the KK-1 reg every year from recent memory.

EDIT: 131-KK-1 is a Toyota Avensis.
161-KK-1 is a Nissan NV400
No vehicle registered for 151
09-12 are all buses.

WRONG

Here's the 171kk1 bus

rainbowtrout

Dia1988 wrote: »

WRONG

Here's the 171kk1 bus

I never said they didn't have the 171-kk-1. I said they didn't have all the KK-1 regs from recent memory.....

vectra

Saw these two parked side by side in my Local Aldi yesterday

traco

How are sales numbers looking this year, up or down? I haven't noticed as many as I think I've seen other years.

ELM327

Work carpark is full of 191s this year, I've been based at this site on and off since 2010 and I have not seen this many any other year.

Eric Cartman

ELM327 wrote: »

Work carpark is full of 191s this year, I've been based at this site on and off since 2010 and I have not seen this many any other year.

Apparantly 1/3rd of drivers are planning to change this year, it was similar for 1999, id say hext year with the decade change if hrexit hasnt sank us you'll see a load of new cars

GavMan

PCP really picked up in 2016 so I'd say 2019 will see a lot of renewals of those deals. Should be an improvement on last year I think

ShadowHearth

GavMan wrote: »

PCP really picked up in 2016 so I'd say 2019 will see a lot of renewals of those deals. Should be an improvement on last year I think

A lot of stuff coming out only later this year. If what, I can see sales be lower for 191, but a bit higher for 192 compared to last year.

greendragon3

sligo county council compound in carraroe took delivery of four brand new Nissan navara pick ups yesterday , all 191 KE reg , seemingly engineers jeeps for the N4 castlebaldwin road job , no pics yet but ive been told one is a really high spec with loads of extras !!! foremans jeep maybe ???!!!

Wildly Boaring

greendragon3 wrote: »

sligo county council compound in carraroe took delivery of four brand new Nissan navara pick ups yesterday , all 191 KE reg , seemingly engineers jeeps for the N4 castlebaldwin road job , no pics yet but ive been told one is a really high spec with loads of extras !!! foremans jeep maybe ???!!!

They'll be for the client side engineers.
Generally part of tender to provide a few and generally new to stop contractor providing buckets of ****e

bazz26

191 BMW 8 Series in front of me this morning. The boom is truly back baby.... :pac:

hooch-85

There's a similar thread to this on backroads. Some of the spots have been rightly boomy, Bently's, M4's etc. We must not be too far away from the next recession

Vicxas

Seen a 191 Kia Picanto GT Line in Navan yesterday, what a weird fun little car it looked.

m17

Castlebar

Dia1988

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Last of the affordable non-hybrid Corollas

Just noticed you can only get a non-hybrid Yaris in the bog Terra spec, wheel covers, no fogs, black plastic door handles and mirrors. And it's still 17.5k lol! The hybrid luna is 2k more!

Do you really need a hybrid in a city car, a 1.0 petrol will be just as frugal and will cost less to buy!

Think Toyota might have been too brave too soon with their hybrids!

Will all their diesel Avensis, Rav 4, Corolla, Auris drivers transfer to hybrids?

Eric Cartman

Saw 191-D-63 today, lovely looking Volvo XC90, pity about the 2 litre 4 banger under the bonnet.

ELM327

Dia1988 wrote: »

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Last of the affordable non-hybrid Corollas

Just noticed you can only get a non-hybrid Yaris in the bog Terra spec, wheel covers, no fogs, black plastic door handles and mirrors. And it's still 17.5k lol! The hybrid luna is 2k more!

Do you really need a hybrid in a city car, a 1.0 petrol will be just as frugal and will cost less to buy!

Think Toyota might have been too brave too soon with their hybrids!

Will all their diesel Avensis, Rav 4, Corolla, Auris drivers transfer to hybrids?

They needed to push hybrids as they don't have a diesel engine capable of meeting the new emissions requirements

ELM327

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Saw 191-D-63 today, lovely looking Volvo XC90, pity about the 2 litre 4 banger under the bonnet.

I hate it when "special" numbers go to normal cars.
You'd think someone would put that plate on an AMG63. Like at work today there was a 191 MH 54 Hyundai, and all I could think of was what a waste of a plate that could have been on an S4.


Yes I'm a nerd like that.

Old diesel

Dia1988 wrote: »

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Last of the affordable non-hybrid Corollas

Just noticed you can only get a non-hybrid Yaris in the bog Terra spec, wheel covers, no fogs, black plastic door handles and mirrors. And it's still 17.5k lol! The hybrid luna is 2k more!

Do you really need a hybrid in a city car, a 1.0 petrol will be just as frugal and will cost less to buy!

Think Toyota might have been too brave too soon with their hybrids!

Will all their diesel Avensis, Rav 4, Corolla, Auris drivers transfer to hybrids?

1) a big company like Toyota isn't going to make a solution for say 2 to 3 k Avensis/Auris diesel drivers in Ireland a year. The investment isn't worth it. It's a lot cheaper to lose the business.

2) diesels future looks challenging - Toyota feel hybrid is the answer. It's not too brave to deliver proven hybrid technology with 22 years of reliability as your future solution. If anything Toyota are been too conservative by not making a substantial move with EVs

3) 10 k normal petrol and hybrid Toyotas were sold last year in Ireland. So people are still buying them in numbers.

4) Toyota won a lot of their business over the past 45 years based on superior reliability. Hybrid delivers this far better then diesel - especially for shorter journeys which diesels hate.

5) Toyota do need to look at delivering solutions in hybrid form for those who want to tow. However many people who tow for farming and the like actually need a Hilux or Landcruiser solution and indeed use exactly that type of vehicle.

The days of putting two cows in a trailor behind the Carina are gone.

Eric Cartman

ELM327 wrote: »

I hate it when "special" numbers go to normal cars.
You'd think someone would put that plate on an AMG63. Like at work today there was a 191 MH 54 Hyundai, and all I could think of was what a waste of a plate that could have been on an S4.


Yes I'm a nerd like that.

Id agree, If only dealers could pre book, Mercedes Ireland could have 191-C-63 , BMW Taking 191-D-535 etc... would work so well.

OldMrBrennan83

If someone wants 1 they're a wanker wasting money but keeping 63 to match a car is grand

Old diesel

Patww79 wrote: »

If someone wants 1 they're a wanker wasting money but keeping 63 to match a car is grand

Having 191 D 535 on a BMW 535 if you are BMW Ireland or even an owner of a 535 is a totally different to someone buying 191 CW 1 and putting it on a Suzuki Celerio imo.

Dia1988

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Id agree, If only dealers could pre book, Mercedes Ireland could have 191-C-63 , BMW Taking 191-D-535 etc... would work so well.

Funnily enought 191c63 did go to a Mercedes, but a diesel E200.

191d535 went to a diesel CX5 Mazda

OldMrBrennan83

Old diesel wrote: »

Having 191 D 535 on a BMW 535 if you are BMW Ireland or even an owner of a 535 is a totally different to someone buying 191 CW 1 and putting it on a Suzuki Celerio imo.

That's just a good wedge of car snobbery scoffing at plate snobbery. But it's really all the same thing.

X6.430macman

C'mon now it's not like there English private plates like tbf

Dia1988

X6.430macman wrote: »

C'mon now it's not like there English private plates like tbf

I'd pay 1k for 191-D-Dia

Scoondal

X6.430macman wrote: »

C'mon now it's not like there English private plates like tbf

From 30 March, there will be less Vauxalls too. That little "avenue of pleasure" will be closed off due to Brexit.

OldMrBrennan83

Scoondal wrote: »

From 30 March, there will be less Vauxalls too. That little "avenue of pleasure" will be closed off due to Brexit.

And dealers here will have a field day.

Dia1988

Scoondal wrote: »

From 30 March, there will be less Vauxalls too. That little "avenue of pleasure" will be closed off due to Brexit.

Stop scare mongering, there will be a 2 year transitioning period after March 30th .Even if UK doesnt sign up to a mutual trade policy, which they have cited to be doing!

Cars in Uk today will have followed EU standards and to EU policies and taxes, the history of these cars can't change after March 30th!

Scoondal

Dia1988 wrote: »

Stop scare mongering, there will be a 2 year transitioning period after March 30th .Even if UK doesnt sign up to a mutual trade policy, which they have cited to be doing!

Cars in Uk today will have followed EU standards and to EU policies and taxes, the history of these cars can't change after March 30th!

But what if UK leaves EU with no agreement ? UK becomes " a third country" according to EU rules and then must accept WTO trading tariffs. It could happen.

Gael23

Any data out yet on petrol Vs diesel sales?

Dia1988

Scoondal wrote: »

But what if UK leaves EU with no agreement ? UK becomes " a third country" according to EU rules and then must accept WTO trading tariffs. It could happen.

As likely as Ireland will flood and will disappear below the sea!

EU/UK cars prior to March 30th will still be EU/UK cars post March 30th and will be be trated as suchas they conform to EU standards.

The lights won't be turned off suddenly on March 30th.

nim1bdeh38l2cw

Dia1988 wrote: »

As likely as Ireland will flood and will disappear below the sea!

EU/UK cars prior to March 30th will still be EU/UK cars post March 30th and will be be trated as suchas they conform to EU standards.

The lights won't be turned off suddenly on March 30th.

Nothing to do with standards - duty and VAT

Kevin Finnerty

Saw my first 4 digit in Cork today, a Ribena Kuga or other some mundane yoke whatever they're called now.

Dia1988

Bonnie Few Mat wrote: »

Nothing to do with standards - duty and VAT

Yes, a UK car in UK prior to March 30th will have technically originated in the EU prior to March 30th.

A duty is to minimise trade from non EU countries. How can it be argued that a UK car in the UK today did not originate from the EU post March 30th?

Guy:Incognito

Dia1988 wrote: »

Yes, a UK car in UK prior to March 30th will have technically originated in the EU prior to March 30th.

A duty is to minimise trade from non EU countries. How can it be argued that a UK car in the UK today did not originate from the EU post March 30th?

If the UK rejoined the eu next year and you were bringing a car in from there a week later and they told you you had to pay vat and duty because the car is more than a week old and it's from before the country was in the eu, would you say" yeah, that's fair"?

ongarite

191 Kildare reg Audi A7 in black in my workplace today.
Absolutely stunning looking car, interior design is really cool IMO.

Dia1988

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If the UK rejoined the eu next year and you were bringing a car in from there a week later and they told you you had to pay vat and duty because the car is more than a week old and it's from before the country was in the eu, would you say" yeah, that's fair"?

Not like with like

Those countries had bi lateral arrangements prior to entering the EU.

UK is leaving the EU and EU arrangements existed and cannot be simply ignored.

Guy:Incognito

Dia1988 wrote: »

Not like with like

Those countries had bi lateral arrangements prior to entering the EU.

UK is leaving the EU and EU arrangements existed and cannot be simply ignored.

Exactly. HAD agreements.

The UK wont be in the EU. Don't expect any of the benefits you get now.

ofcork

Haven't seen a single 191 yet lord mayor in cork always gets the first reg from ford.