191 reg cars...

Old diesel

appledrop wrote: »

191 -D959- Ford Transit Van. The boom must be back if business are able to buy new vans again. I was driving behind it for ages before I copped it. That's transit vans for you style of it hasn't changed in donkeys years.

A new model Transit came out in 2014 or thereabouts so recent enough. You could argue that part of the Transits success is precisely because it evolves over a long period.

The current model replaced the 2006 facelift of the 2001 Transit.

ELM327

Nixonbot wrote: »

True, the whole grille being redundant is a thing, but Tesla managed it with their other cars, and the new Leaf is pretty decent looking, doesn't explain these abominations.

The new leaf is ugly as sin, as is the I3.
Model X is a bit bulbous but I think it's good looking.
The model 3 and both pre and post facelift model S are good looking machines for sure

AMKC

Nixonbot wrote: »

Why must almost every electric car be ugly as sin? Ioniq, Kona (looks bad as a normal car but then block out the grille and it's even worse), Model X, i3 are all awful yokes to look at.

I think the Ioniq and Kona are good looking cars. If you want an ugly car the Nissan Juke is ugly but a least it is different and stands out.

Lots of new 191s out today.

Seen a white 191 Nissan Micra looked good had nice alloys but was missing fog lights, a 191 VW Passat in silver, a VW T-Roc in Orange 191-OY-306 also an Orange Dacia Duster 191-OY-96 top spec chrome mirrors and all the rest. Orange could be a popular colour this year.

JoeA3

novarock wrote: »

I think its because they don't want the masses buying them yet. Make them less attractive and people will be less inclined to buy them. The Teslas are the first electric cars that look good, because they are trying to compete with the luxury brands. I would imagine the profit margin on an electric car is smaller for companies, and that they are getting kickbacks from the oil industries to continue R/D into making people keep buying oil products.

Tbh I think the Tesla’s are ugly too. Striking yes, in a “that looks different” kind of way, but in no way good looking imo. And the interiors are horrific.

maddness

JoeA3 wrote: »

Tbh I think the Tesla’s are ugly too. Striking yes, in a “that looks different” kind of way, but in no way good looking imo. And the interiors are horrific.

The big one looks like a bigger old model Mazda 6 (with much bigger Panel Gaps)

AMKC

JoeA3 wrote: »

Tbh I think the Tesla’s are ugly too. Striking yes, in a “that looks different” kind of way, but in no way good looking imo. And the interiors are horrific.

I agree the interiors and the touchscreen are horrific. I think any touch screen be it in a car or as a phone, tablet PC etc are horrible. I will never get why people like them. I hate them.

Guy:Incognito

I had a good mooch around the model x when I was in London. I really liked it. Lovely place to spend time driving. Each to their own.

ofcork

Lexus ES today very similar from the front to all other lexus models cant see it taking big numbers from the 3 germans.

galwaytt

maddness wrote: »

The big one looks like a bigger old model Mazda 6 (with much bigger Panel Gaps)

Snap - every time I see one I think of a 6 as well.
The interior of the Tesla is decades behind the established car marques quality wise. A 10yr old one is going to remind you the way an Accent from the noughties feels now....

AMKC

Seen a black 191 Skoda Kodiak today and it had 150 after its county on it. The person driving it seemed very happy.

McGrath5

Ordered a new Focus today, so will be jining this thread soon.

Bonzo Delaney

appledrop wrote: »

191 -D959- Ford Transit Van. The boom must be back if business are able to buy new vans again. I was driving behind it for ages before I copped it. That's transit vans for you style of it hasn't changed in donkeys years.

That new model came out in 142 there's not much you can change with the style of the back of a van in fairness

Mad_maxx

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I had a good mooch around the model x when I was in London. I really liked it. Lovely place to spend time driving. Each to their own.

I think they are awesome looking in every way, completely other worldly but they absolutely pull it iff

NIMAN

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I think they are awesome looking in every way, completely other worldly but they absolutely pull it iff

Did I not read the build quality of Tesla's are ropey?

galwaytt

NIMAN wrote: »

Did I not read the build quality of Tesla's are ropey?

They are. Audi didn't master panel fit, door seals and the best interiors over a decade. 5 decades more like....

GusGus

Anyone got new sales figures for first few weeks ?

Dakotabigone

GusGus wrote: »

Anyone got new sales figures for first few weeks ?

Must be well down I’d say. Local school run this morning and only saw two. Last year had a lot more.

Donkeygonads

GusGus wrote: »

Anyone got new sales figures for first few weeks ?

Market is down 15%.

GusGus

Donkeygonads wrote: »

Market is down 15%.

Any breakdown of sales ?

RedorDead

First 20 day registrations here thanks to SIMIs Motorstat. Market down about 13%. Big drops for Toyota and Mercedes in particular.



In terms of best selling models - the usual suspects at the top. Kona new into the top 10 - only surprise is seeing the Golf falling out of the top 10 but the medium sized hatchback segment is being decimated by SUVs.



If you want any more brands/models let me know and ill dig them out.

joe316

Pretty sure I saw a navy blue BMW X7 around the green this morning or am I losing it and it wasnt a demo?

Kevin Finnerty

That Dacia Duster stat makes me cry a bit on the inside.

Tauriel

I wonder if any new 508 have been sold yet.

Gael23

Surprised to see the Golf so far down. Maybe people are just holding out for the new one next year.

maximoose

Finally saw my first this morning - 191 Grey Skoda Kodiaq, was quite nice looking bar the taxi livery

ELM327

Wonder how many of the Konas were Kona EVs? Have seen a rake load of them recently on 191 plates

Comhrá

How's Audi doing? I think I've only seen two 191s so far.

I believe the emissions have played havoc with them with a lead time of 16+ weeks for some models. All anecdotal though. Anyone have any definite info?

bazz26

The Golf Mk7 is in the last stages of it's life cycle. The WLPT testing bares a factor too and has hampered availability and prices of a model that will be replaced with a brand new model better prepared for WLPT from the off soon. You also have to factor in that a lot of German stuff are factory orders so January can be a slow month when factory orders usually experience delays.

Interesting to see that Toyota have been impacted by the withdrawal of the parish favorites - the Corolla and Avensis diesel. I see the nuns have updated their fleet of Yaris though.

sk8board

For Forks Sake wrote: »

€111,270 for something that looks like it's been in the middle of a three car crash.

Not sure about the €111k for the model x - according to their Irish site its €135k with just one option ticked - advanced autopilot (which you need to tick if you want to ever sell it 2nd hand, or tell the boys in the club house about how its future proofed to drive itself.)
https://www.tesla.com/en_IE/modelx/design

Edit: saw a 191 fully electric Kona plugged into a charger on the prom in Skerries earlier, with a few lads standing around it

ShadowHearth

bazz26 wrote: »

The Golf Mk7 is in the last stages of it's life cycle. The WLPT testing bares a factor too and has hampered availability and prices of a model that will be replaced with a brand new model better prepared for WLPT from the off soon. You also have to factor in that a lot of German stuff are factory orders so January can be a slow month when factory orders usually experience delays.

Interesting to see that Toyota have been impacted by the withdrawal of the parish favorites - the Corolla and Avensis diesel. I see the nuns have updated their fleet of Yaris though.

Problem with Toyota is that all new line up only coming out now or later this year. So what they selling now is all old stock.

As I said before. A lot of new models coming out this summer and 192 numbers will be interesting to see.

GusGus

Hi - thanks for stats !

Have you list of brands and how they are doing ?

Gael23

VW T ROC looking popular.
Wouldn't have one myself. Might account for some of the fall off in Golf sales though

Old diesel

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Problem with Toyota is that all new line up only coming out now or later this year. So what they selling now is all old stock.

As I said before. A lot of new models coming out this summer and 192 numbers will be interesting to see.

Yes exactly - practically every Corolla in 2019 so far is the old model which is been phased out.

I haven't even heard of any new model Corolla been made available for test drives never mind sold to a customer.

If anything the old school diesel drivers should have been falling over one another to get the last diesel Toyota to be sold

For Forks Sake

joe316 wrote: »

Pretty sure I saw a navy blue BMW X7 around the green this morning or am I losing it and it wasnt a demo?

I saw a 191 Audi Q8 this morning, that thing is enormous.

GeneHunt

mustang shelly wrote: »

I wonder if any new 508 have been sold yet.

The 508 isn't due to be launched until late February or early March

Kevin Finnerty

Up to 3100s in Cork highest I've seen.. Vignale Mondeo in Midleton earlier today.

Widdensushi

For Forks Sake wrote: »

I saw a 191 Audi Q8 this morning, that thing is enormous.

Are they though? I thought they looked well but not that big

SaintsYB

Widdensushi wrote: »

Are they though? I thought they looked well but not that big

I saw an English reg one in Waterford maybe late last year. They are fairly big on the road alright.

GeneHunt

For Forks Sake wrote: »

I saw a 191 Audi Q8 this morning, that thing is enormous.

Here's one I saw in Avoca Dunboyne back in November and yes they are enormous. The proportions are good which is why I think it's deceiving to look at, possibly looks like a big Q3, but the front grille is ugly.

Henry Ford III

bazz26 wrote:

...You also have to factor in that a lot of German stuff are factory orders so January can be a slow month when factory orders usually experience delays.

I don't buy that at all. VW have traditionally sold strongly from the beginning of each new year.

Toyotafanboi

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I don't buy that at all. VW have traditionally sold strongly from the beginning of each new year.

As mentioned though, they didn't this year as they couldn't commit to pricing of most of their range from August to November of last year due to WLTP testing. Very difficult to sell a car you can't put a price on and dealers lost a lot of trade as a result. It's had a very big knock on for them this year in terms of reg's.

damo86

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

As mentioned though, they didn't this year as they couldn't commit to pricing of most of their range from August to November of last year due to WLTP testing. Very difficult to sell a car you can't put a price on and dealers lost a lot of trade as a result. It's had a very big knock on for them this year in terms of reg's.

Just backing up your statement:

I actually went to order a 191 Golf 1.5 TSI in december. Reasons I didn't order:

1) Delivery wasn't going to be until May/June (which is caused by the testing as the golf are due to be tested Jan/Feb), which is very close to the arrival of the new 2019 Golf.

2) Choice of colours, wanted Turmeric Yellow in the R-line package and black wheels.

Would've got over the second one but waiting 6months for a Golf is just silly.

Henry Ford III

damo86 wrote:

Would've got over the second one but waiting 6months for a Golf is just silly.

Agreed. The other makes seem to be managing a bit better nonetheless.

kooga

saw a lovely black 191 D Mustang parked in Ford HQ in Cork yesterday - was driving so no pic

Widdensushi

GeneHunt wrote: »

Here's one I saw in Avoca Dunboyne back in November and yes they are enormous. The proportions are good which is why I think it's deceiving to look at, possibly looks like a big Q3, but the front grille is ugly.

Still not convinced they are that big especially when you consider the q7 has to be bigger? Alot of these suv's are no bigger than cars except they are on big wheels and higher off the ground so they have a much larger presence

Crock Rock

I don't know why Ireland is so fixated on the year of the car. My car is a 2000 Audi. She is in perfect condition. Apart from dings from fools in car parks.
Car is smooth as a pornstars fanny.
Nothing wrong, sails smooth through NC always.
Why do dealers accentuate the year of the car as a selling point?

Old diesel

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I don't buy that at all. VW have traditionally sold strongly from the beginning of each new year.

How many VWs ordered are ordered by an end user vs those ordered for stock on spec by VW Ireland or dealers.

Is Joe who just wants a basic Polo ordering from the factory. Or buying something in stock????.

In theory a dealer who knows their customer base well could order a mix of cars he knows will sell in his area.

He orders them early and they get sold in January

Allinall

Crock Rock wrote: »

I don't know why Ireland is so fixated on the year of the car. My car is a 2000 Audi. She is in perfect condition. Apart from dings from fools in car parks.
Car is smooth as a pornstars fanny.
Nothing wrong, sails smooth through NC always.
Why do dealers accentuate the year of the car as a selling point?

There’s people that obsess about the number on their reg plate.

There’s others that assign gender to a mass of metal.

Each to their own, I suppose.

GusGus

Hi- any actual figures of what makes are selling ?

sk8board

Crock Rock wrote: »

I don't know why Ireland is so fixated on the year of the car. My car is a 2000 Audi. She is in perfect condition. Apart from dings from fools in car parks.
Car is smooth as a pornstars fanny.
Nothing wrong, sails smooth through NC always.
Why do dealers accentuate the year of the car as a selling point?

some people like to be the first one to do the ‘smoothening’, and then pass it on to the next person while they move on to the newer model