AEW - All Elite Wrestling (*Spoilers for Latest Show*)

El Gato De Negocios

Luchasaurous is gonna kill Darby.

Agent Coulson

Fightful reporting the punk/perry thing was caught on camera as AEW had cameras everywhere at Wembley.

Headshot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121052844#Comment_121052844

At least it should be a lot quicker resolution this time

ThePott

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121052063#Comment_121052063

Probably the worst card they've had for a PPV if we're honest but having two PPVs so close to each other was bound to cause issues like this (doesn't really pardon the All In build either). I don't understand why they're gonna do the exact same thing with a week apart next year.

Furious-Red

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121052974#Comment_121052974

Agreed, and if they are clever next year they should offer a deal for people wanting to watch both All In and All Out some sort of combo deal instead of charging separately.

Lord TSC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121053707#Comment_121053707

Tony was asked about that today at the media scrum for All Out, and said the networks just couldn’t agree on how to do it. AEW wants to, he wants to, but they’re the issue :/

SteM

A total of 6 women featured over 2 matches across 2 ppvs. Not great really.

ThePott

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121053772#Comment_121053772

Not putting Statlander on at least Zero Hour last week was a mistake, she was the only champion not on the card. The excuses for the women's division not being up to snuff are running out.

I really don't know why Mercedes Moné should be interested in going. Maybe in special appearances but she'd probably get the same initial hype and then swift lack of exposure that a lot of the women seem to get in AEW.

savemejebus

I really don't know why Mercedes Moné should be interested in going.

Creative freedom aka more money for less dates. Same as why WCW was popular despite being an asylum run by the inmates.

Cherry_Cola

I think people forget AEW is attractive for a few reasons. They can pay comparably to WWE, all travel expenses and hotels covered (even Punks tube ticket could prob be expensed - WWE folks largely pay their own), plus the added freedom of being able to do stuff on the side as well as indie dates/conventions if you need to. Danhausen for example raking it in on the side, has coffee, his own brand of toys, guitar pedals - you name it. Plus Tony seems good with time off for talent if they need it. Less dates too. Lots of the wrestlers I work with all mentioning how it's a destination for them over WWE for some of the above reasons and likely easier to get in the door too.

That said, have Paul London booked on my next show and he had a poor experience with AEW so will have to ask him about it :D Booked him against GCW's Jordan Oliver.

riffmongous

In fairness iirc Saraya was prominently featured for a good while after she debuted, she just turned out to be awful. MM would probably have a better time of it

The division needs a complete overhaul in general though, there's 3 shows now so they really should be able to work 2 feuds per title

ThePott

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121054534#Comment_121054534

Yeah true, assuming she has a contract that allows her lots of freedom. Not sure she'd be as happy if she was told she'd have a Dynamite match once a month and otherwise be confined to Rampage. She seems to care a lot about how she's perceived and her place on the card but who knows.

Money and creative freedom is a big factor obviously.

CastorTroy

Speaking of not being used, seeing Emi Sakura on RoH this week reminded me she was on Dynamite this week. Looked her up and it's her first Dynamite since 2019. Was constantly on the YouTube shows.

Furious-Red

Not sure why?

ThePott

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121057906#Comment_121057906

United Centre is home of the Chicago Bulls and he's going to be at Starcast anyway. Probably play up his NWO connection and let him slap some heel.

J. Marston

They love kissing Chicago's hole.

CastorTroy

Apart from Punk, why do they make a big deal about Chicago?

Furious-Red

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121057969#Comment_121057969

I'll take a guess and say he will be involved in the Starks/steamboat angle?

ThePott

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121058365#Comment_121058365

Tony Khan is also from Illinois so he probably has a lot of memories or fondness for Chicago as a wrestling location.

Even though I agree that they tend to go there a bit too often.

CastorTroy

Impact's Bound For Glory is in Chicago as well.

Agent Coulson

Sammy & Jericho vs. Aussie Open being set up there

Is Sammy going betray Jericho to join the United Empire?

Roddy is killing it that quick sit down interview with Reene was great, By all accounts he was spotted at the airport flying back after All In wearing the neck brace as well.

ThePott

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121059784#Comment_121059784

He also had a match at PWG, came out in the neck brace, took it off for his match then immediately put it back on 🤣. His whiny ex character is the best thing he's done for me.

savemejebus

Punk fired

STATEMENT FROM ALL ELITE WRESTLING AND TONY KHAN

All Elite Wrestling (AEW) has terminated the wrestler and employment agreements between Phillip Brooks (CM Punk) and AEW with cause, effective immediately. The termination was confirmed today by Tony Khan, CEO, General Manager and Head of Creative of AEW. 

The termination follows a weeklong internal investigation of an incident occurring back stage at AEW – All In London on Sunday, August 27. Following the investigation, the AEW Discipline Committee met and later convened with outside legal counsel before making a unanimous recommendation to Khan that CM Punk be terminated with cause. 

Khan offered the following statement:

“Phil played an important role within AEW and I thank him for his contributions. The termination of his AEW contracts with cause is ultimately my decision, and mine alone. Of course, I wish I didn’t have to share this news, which may come as a disappointment to many of our fans. Nevertheless, I am making the decision in the best interests of the many amazing people who make AEW possible every week – our talent, staff, venue operators and many others whose efforts are unsung but essential to bringing our fans great shows on television and at arenas and stadiums throughout the world.”

ConcertKing

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061577#Comment_121061577

Some joke!

Surely Jungle Boy should be gone too!

Really pissed off he's gone!

Pentecost

Statement basically says nobody could work with him any more. A sad ending, his debut was a great buzz.

Lord TSC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061596#Comment_121061596

For Jungle Boy, it’s his first offence. A suspension is enough.

For Punk, it’s his third, and with different people.

Thats presuming both initiated the fight, which isn’t the story going round. If it’s true Punk threw the first punch, and threw a strop at Khan too, it’s 100% the right and fair move to move him on.

Agent Coulson

Timing is fun just before a WWE PPV.

I'd say the week long investgation was also to do with Warner Bros as they were the ones who wanted Punk front and centre and they are the main money behind the company now.

Punk the character will be missed however I doubt Phil Brooks the man will be missed.

Fired nearly a year to the day after he should have been originally fired.

Hope it's not his wedding anniversary.

J. Marston

Some balls shown by Khan, finally.

What now for Punk? NJPW? Autograph circuit?

kksaints

It was never going to work after his first suspension was it? There was just too much backstage issues after that. Probably months of storylines down the tubes also.

Lord TSC

deleted the other thread since there’s more discussion here, lol.

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1698074387008884841?t=jeIxn7WtJbsaxb01KMRRqg&s=19

what Meltzer is referring to.

"Another version, and this would be a neutral source who was not a wrestler but was there and witnessed it and his version was that right after Perry came to the back, Punk went nose-to-nose with him aggressively and asked him if he had a problem. That person said Perry said he was just looking to get heat as a heel. Punk shoved him hard, Perry got in his face and in that version Punk sucker punched him and went for a choke. People immediately broke it up and Khan was yelling at Punk to let him go.

That person said that once they were separated, Punk lunged in Khan’s direction but a number of people got in his way while Punk was yelling “I Quit.” Monitors were knocked down during all this. Joe was very upset and went to calm Punk down."

Angron

Bye bye Punk.

Insect Overlord

I would say I'm shocked, but, well, you know...

Agent Coulson

So Punk was fired that should mean he is a free agent with no non compete clause.

That gives Vince a few hours to get Punk the 400 miles to Pittsburgh to get him on the PPV to get his Payback on AEW.

ThePott

It's about time Khan showed him the door.

What a weird (final?) chapter for CM Punk. He had some great feuds and matches but there was so much more that could have happened. Collision will be interesting from now on, does it get the same attention or does it become Rampage 2.0.

Doing it before a weekend of Chicago shows is really interesting too. I'll miss the drama tbh.

Doubt we'll see him in WWE, not sure the talent would want him.

RobbingBandit

All Out a little over 24 hours away in you guessed it Chicago Illinois, wonder what the crowd will be like, he's out on his arse now for being a one man wrecking crew backstage but did Tony Khan really have to give Punk the idea that he had any kind of clout to call out other Wrestlers on using materials for their matches, Jungle Boy may have went out of his way to get at Punk at All In not a wise thing to do but he did it

Itssoeasy

Finally but Tony khan should’ve done it months ago but because Tony hasn’t the balls to tell people to cop on. I mean Tony khan let the situation get to where it was before punks press conference melt down so he shares some blame there.

ThePott

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061713#Comment_121061713

Exactly, it's crazy to think how things might have gone if this had been handled properly. Should have had Hangman and Punk has things out after their promo shots, should have made it clear that Punk didn't have Colt removed, shouldn't have given Punk the power he had. Shouldn't have brought him back the first time most likely. Shouldn't have made him the focus of a show that was going to do nothing but create a larger divide in the locker room. The list goes on. Badly handled by all sides. Punk doesn't make things easy on himself but there's plenty of blame to go around.

Even crazier to think that had Punk not cracked his ankle doing a dumbass stage dive that none of this might have happened. It's a real butterfly effect.

Agent Coulson

He wrecked 6 months of storylines that effected so many talent after All Out last year and he has gone and done it again this year during All In.

Ricky Starks, CMFTR, the real heavyweight champion storys that were being built over the last few weeks are all in the toilet now.

Furious-Red

Not totally shocked but definitely the right call to fire him, agree he should have been fired earlier but glad Khan made the decision. Even if he goes to WWE do you really think his attitude or actions will change, he'll still be same old Punk at the end of the day. He did have some great matches/rivalries with the likes of MJF and Kingston while in AEW.

Agent Coulson

He now joins the handful of AEW talent that were fired and they were fired for sexual abuse allegations.

Everyone else that has left AEW had their contracts honored and weren't resigned.

riffmongous

I'm pretty shocked that it actually happened.

Well now that he did, I hope Tony doesn't just leave it there but sorts out a lot of the other crap backstage/Twitter/ dirtsheets, put his foot down and tell everyone to stop behaving like they're in school

JP Liz V1

He was the biggest merc seller for AEW

I'm surprised he was fired, I know he did many wrongs but no denying he was big for AEW, brought attention both bad and good

Would WWE try to lure him back?

hynesie08

So the mentality checked out bucks now get to stink out the show that was actually building talent........ There are no winners in this scenario.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061764#Comment_121061764

I’d be nice if it did happen but there’s nothing to suggest he will.

J. Marston

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061769#Comment_121061769

What was the maybe bullshít/maybe true leaked quote from someone in WWE about Punk last year? "He's their problem now."

I don't think they'd want the drama he'd bring even if they'd get some eyes for the notoriety alone. Rollins has called him a "cancer" and told him stay away, probably half in character but only half.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061806#Comment_121061806

I don't know to me Punk is a huge get for any promotion and him at Survivor Series in Chicago, insane pop and Rollins got over his beef with Riddle for a feud, if a controversial Punk return is "best for business" Vince and Endeavour might try luring him back

What now for Collision, it was done especially for Punk, will AEW need a big name?

WWE got Bret, Sable etc., back

rodders999

Punk brought me to AEW but MJF is what’s going to keep me here. It’s a shame it happened at their biggest ever event, but if it didn’t happen at Wembley it would have happened somewhere down the road. Punk just can’t help himself.

I’ve always been a massive Punk fan and he’s sucked me back into the world for wrestling twice now (first time was the pipe bomb) but this is the correct decision and it’s time for him to go.

Headshot

About **** time.

Absolute delighted this virus is gone from AEW, hopefully things quieten down now

ThePott

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061849#Comment_121061849

Not for nothing but there's been plenty of other drama/fights in AEW outside of Punk.

Britt constantly burying/bullying Thunder Rosa publicly.

Andrade/Sammy

Eddie Kingston/Sammy

Rumoured tension between other acts

These are just the ones I remember, that is to say that they need to do a better job of dealing with conflict in AEW instead of running to the dirtsheets or getting into fist fights.

ConcertKing

Was really enjoying Collision alot more than Dynamite lately.God knows what will happen with now!

Christian better feature prominently on Collision weekly as he has been doing!