AEW - All Elite Wrestling (Spoilers for Latest Show)

hynesie08 · 02-09-2023 11:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061849#Comment_121061849

A dozen wrestlers are in a better position than they would be if collision didn't happen, now they've gotta hope the Elite remember them once a month so Excalibur can announce their match with no build.

I'm sure Ricky Starks, bullet club gold, willow nightingale, statlander, andrade, Miro and Hobbs are delighted that the guy who got them prominent TV time is gone.

Punks a dick, but be careful what you wish for.

JP Liz V1 · 02-09-2023 11:29pm

Ironic that today Punk is "all out" of AEW

I assume the ppv in Chicago will have Punk chants

Lord TSC · 02-09-2023 11:29pm

https://twitter.com/AndrewZarian/status/1698089552290689334

Roster split ending, lol.

Furious-Red · 02-09-2023 11:34pm

Did find this funny

https://twitter.com/AllEliteChief/status/1698082983624749306

riffmongous · 02-09-2023 11:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061878#Comment_121061878

Aww man, what happens to Miro now in the next few months will be quite telling

hynesie08 · 02-09-2023 11:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061908#Comment_121061908

He'll just stop showing up and bang Lana, not the worst outcome.

Headshot · 02-09-2023 11:39pm

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You cannot expect someone who constantly causes havoc in your promotion to continue having a job, the negatives well out weight he positives with Punk.

What would you expect TK to do in this case? Have Punk suspended and down the line come back into the fold? It's playing with fire....The only think TK did wrong was not firing Punk after the Elite confrontation.

Furious-Red · 02-09-2023 11:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061908#Comment_121061908

Yea this is Khans time to nearly reset, get everything in order and start building up the talent he has before its too late. They have 5 hours of TV time a week and more than enough talent to cover the shows. Might take time and things will dip but in the long run will pay off, as mentioned they done decent work on the likes of Miro, Starks, BCG etc but give people a reason to care plus proper storylines(both mens and womens divisions) and not just random matches thrown together for no reason with AEW have been guilty for awhile now

Agent Coulson · 02-09-2023 11:43pm

Time for Cardblade to man up and become the main man!

JP Liz V1 · 02-09-2023 11:46pm

Punk leaves acknowledging Roman

hynesie08 · 02-09-2023 11:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061929#Comment_121061929

I would expect TK to run a professional locker room, but history has shown he doesn't do that, punk is human gasoline, letting the elite and Anna jays boyfriend pull their meta shooty bollox was never gonna end well, letting punk go off at the all out scrum was never gonna go well, If the story about the Elites mate being the one who didn't organise punks travel is true, not firing him on the spot was never gonna go well.

Tony has failed to control his lads at every single point, because he is a mark with money, there's a reason why he's not on the sidelines for the jags or Fulham, he wants to pretend he's everybodies mate and this is the first time in 4 years he's had to actually grow a set.

Normally lads only find out they're not employed there anymore when the phone stops ringing.

JP Liz V1 · 02-09-2023 11:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061840#Comment_121061840

Punk's feud with MJF was great and had potential for a title unification match

Headshot · 03-09-2023 12:05am

What I find very interesting why fire Punk before Collision and All Out in Chicago, the crowd could really be nasty

Pentecost · 03-09-2023 12:38am

I think he may..may..have gotten away with a suspension (because Perry was being a dick) if he didn't go for Tony K. You can't do that to the boss and not get fired.

ThePott · 03-09-2023 12:38am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061988#Comment_121061988

There's a few possible reasons I could think but still very few that make much sense.

Stop the crowd from expecting Punk to show up. (won't matter cause they may revolt as a result, or maybe not)
Create some hype for Collision/All Out while also taking some shine away from Payback.
So that Tony doesn't have to put up with scrum questions about Punk's status (if it was a normal press conference he'd get asked about the decision to fire but most of these seem to be packed to the rafters with kiss-ass 'journalists')
If they aren't confident in the quality of the All Out card and the crowd boo they have a scapegoat as to why.

Or maybe it might just be that they did their 'investigation' and it was clear that Punk had to go asap.

Agent Coulson · 03-09-2023 12:59am

😂😂😂

https://twitter.com/KENTAG2S/status/1698119614733959195?s=20

CastorTroy · 03-09-2023 1:19am

As much as I hate someone losing their job and also he was good to watch on-screen, the trouble he was seemingly causing backstage just wasn't good.

But I hope Tony starts to implement rules now. One being to stop airing backstage stuff in the ring. It's one thing making reference to something in a sly way like a wee dig at Xavier Woods after the videos but saying something that may cause problems in the back like we've had often in AEW should be stopped.

But yeah, I expect loads on Punk chants like when he left WWE.

JP Liz V1 · 03-09-2023 1:20am

https://twitter.com/AEWonTV/status/1698125129572651516

Tony Talks

Agent Coulson · 03-09-2023 1:41am

No better man to replace Punk tomorrow than the American Dragon!

Strap match against Starks.

Agent Coulson · 03-09-2023 1:53am

Damn Christian is Awesome.

Agent Coulson · 03-09-2023 1:55am

Shibita using google translate is such good gimmick.

Furious-Red · 03-09-2023 4:14am

Wasnt expecting Danielson back but should be a great match, overall the Chicago crowd were fine just a few CM Punk chants at the start, Did notice Cash doing the Punk Pose when he walked out. Decent collision overall and helped build up tomorrows PPV

The White Wolf · 03-09-2023 8:48am

I've been floored for most of the weekend, so just woke up to the news.......

Firstly, that non wrestler witness account was pretty damning. It was time to go.

I'll always remain a Punk fan, but look at him when he debuted compared to how he looks now, and you can tell being there has taken an immense toll. I'm actually delighted in a way for him that he's out of there.

Lastly, knowing what know about Phil, I can only imagine what he's thinking right now. All over Jungle Boy, lol.

savemejebus · 03-09-2023 10:03am

I'd say Dave will be occupying a huge amout of brain real estate for him too.Rule of thumb for me with Meltzer is if it's related to AEW he's pushing a narrative but if there is even a chance his non-wrestler account is true then Punk needs lots of help.

ebbsy · 03-09-2023 10:04am

Punk/Omega and Punk/Dragon would have been great.........

It is all very dissapointing.

Agent Coulson · 03-09-2023 11:19am

A read of twitter this morning the Punk stans haven't taken it well.

briany · 03-09-2023 11:23am

I think WWE will take Punk back for a limited run of dates. I would say that Triple H is fairly changed from when Punk left in 2014, and that they could reconcile at least enough to have a working relationship.

More importantly, it will be a money spinner if done correctly and would be a thumbing of the nose to AEW to say this is how CM Punk should be used (and handled).

Itssoeasy · 03-09-2023 11:37am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062739#Comment_121062739

Even if it’s done right punk for all his talent doesn’t seem able to ignore people being snarky to him, so I don’t see how him going to back to wwe will work even in a limited run of dates. Until he figures out how to not screw things up it’s not worth it.

rizzla · 03-09-2023 11:42am

To be honest if he goes to WWE he will mention his time in AEW on the mic, he just can’t help it and WWE don’t like to acknowledge other companies. They will have to know he will do that.

All the other backstage drama seems tiny compared to the nuke Punk brings. He just escalates everything to 11.

Just seen Cash throw up the X during Dax’s entrance.

Davy05 · 03-09-2023 11:52am

I don't buy this narrative of Tony Khan being some babysitter who couldn't mind the kids correctly. These are all adults - grown men - so personal responsibility for your own actions is the only way i interpret all this.

In no work environment can you attack your colleagues over perceived slights in front of your manager, then lunge at the boss when he tries to break it up.

I'm a big fan of Punk the character, but appeasement clearly doesn't work with him. He had to walk, and no one to blame but himself.

briany · 03-09-2023 11:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062782#Comment_121062782

We don't know how he'd be in WWE because he hasn't been back since he left. You're working off the assumption that anyone in WWE would take the jabs that Jungle Boy et al did, which may not happen.

Agent Coulson · 03-09-2023 12:32pm

The American Dragon is who that locker room needs as it's leader not a Punk type.

Danielson probably coming back a few weeks ahead of schedule just help the company and to keep Starks push going and not throwing a teenage hissy fit like Punk does and did.

Last week it was reported that Tony told his father if anything happened him he should turn to Danielson to run the company.

Itssoeasy · 03-09-2023 12:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062842#Comment_121062842

Oh I think the WWE locker room on the whole is a fairly responsible one that doesn’t have some wrestlers acting like children and pretending everything is perfect so there won’t be any jibes on promos but punk doesn’t need an excuse it seems.

The White Wolf · 03-09-2023 12:57pm

That locker room won't magically fix itself now that he's gone, I know that much at least.

Agent Coulson · 03-09-2023 1:51pm

Ace Steel in a nice limbo now he will never be used in AEW again and he is on a contract and has done nothing new to be fired again so he will get to continue to sit at home for the lenght of his contract doing nothing and getting nicely paid.

He owes Punk big.

Punk might go work in Japan for a few shows a year if the wrestling itch is still there.

Work a future Forbidden Door on the NJPW side down the road a bit.

ebbsy · 03-09-2023 2:51pm

Not much sympathy out there for him ?

The White Wolf · 03-09-2023 2:53pm

https://twitter.com/GraysonWWE/status/1698168243821666388?s=20

Waller with the tweet of the day.

ThePott · 03-09-2023 3:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062832#Comment_121062832

Ì don't think people are suggesting that Punk isn't responsible for his own actions or that he shouldn't have faced repurcussions for them.

I think that at the same point Tony is the boss of the company. I would expect any boss should be able to deal with conflict in the work place with his employees. There's a HR department and Talent Relations in place obviously but the tension between all these parties has been evident long before Brawl Out happened and again before Brawl In. We don't know if anything was done behind the scenes to quell any of this and clearly Punk is more challenging to deal with than your average employee but consistently it seems like little was done backstage to try and stop this from exploding into conflict.

The fight at All Out was the better example of this but had Tony come out and said very clearly that moving Colt Cabana was his decision (he did months after the fact) then things could have been different. Should Page and later Punk have been reprimanded for the shots they took unscripted and unapproved on the mic at each other? Maybe. The fact is there was red flags there that from what we can tell were ignored.

It's not Tony's fault that grown men couldn't get along or sit down and smooth **** out themselves but IMO he does share some blame for not making them sit down for the betterment of his business and to make a more healthy backstage environment. If you're in charge of a company then that stuff should be in your best interests and you doing it is part of the job.

savemejebus · 03-09-2023 4:08pm

If you’re in charge of a company you can’t be friends or fans with your employees (Tony chanting CM Punk CM Punk at gorilla for example) and you shouldn’t put active talent in positions of power. Tony reads to read the death of wcw again.

The White Wolf · 03-09-2023 4:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121063794#Comment_121063794

I said this elsewhere; people keep sharing what Kingston and moxley said about Punk as if it was a legitimate shoot, which it wasn't. It's a work, anything said in those promos was agreed beforehand.

I like Hangman, he seems like a good guy, but he started this problem by going off script, and he did it as a locker room leader. People will say Punk went off script as well in his career, but I challenge anyone to give me an example where he did it pre AEW. For example anyone that believes the pipe bomb was a shoot is embarrassing themselves.

Agent Coulson · 03-09-2023 4:51pm

I kind of hope Punk loses the plot in a deluded press release saying he is going to sue everyone and blames the entire locker room for it and he did nothing wrong.

JP Liz V1 · 03-09-2023 5:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062956#Comment_121062956

Is Bryan face now, not in BCC? I'm guessing he was rushed back in place of Punk

JP Liz V1 · 03-09-2023 5:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121063474#Comment_121063474

Ice Cube Jnr a fan

https://twitter.com/OsheaJacksonJr/status/1698075742201102423

JP Liz V1 · 03-09-2023 6:22pm

AEW confirmed that Athena has been added to the "Zero Hour" pre-show. The ROH Women's Champion will team with Diamante and Mercedes Martinez to take on Skye Blue, Hikaru Shida, and Willow Nightingale. The pre-show will also feature an Overbudget Battle Royale, with the winner being allowed to donate $50,000 to a charity of their choice. Elsewhere, Billy Gunn and The Acclaimed will defend the AEW World Trios Championship against Jeff Jarrett, Jay Lethal, and Satnam Singh — and Dennis Rodman will be in the former team's corner.

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