AEW - All Elite Wrestling (*Spoilers for Latest Show*)

Necro

J. Marston wrote:

Either Meltzer is bullshítting (shocking...) or they're playing the Khans like a fiddle. Leaning towards the former.

Definitely. The first comment under that tweet says it all, surely he'd be scooping these names if he knew them, his profession is journalism after all.

sky88

Necro wrote: »

Definitely. The first comment under that tweet says it all, surely he'd be scooping these names if he knew them, his profession is journalism after all.

Well I honestly think he’s on the payroll to so keeping things close to his chest only releasing the news they want

ERG89

If his co-host hasn't heard of them I assume 99.9% of wrestling fans haven't of them either. Maybe its the OWE guys trained by CIMA, etc.
I took a browse on Wikipedia & not one have a wiki page or real name. I heard of the trainers but none of the Chinese talent.
It's hard to find/sign anyone unknown as Mexican, Japanese and European wrestling is very accessible now.

Monokne

Necro wrote: »

Definitely. The first comment under that tweet says it all, surely he'd be scooping these names if he knew them, his profession is journalism after all.

It's not at all uncommon for journalists to be told things off the record, and sit on them.

campo

Agent Coulson wrote: »

As long as Billy Corgan doesn't get involved I think they might be ok.

Personally would like to see the NWA belt defended in AEW PPVs

Necro

Monokne wrote:

It's not at all uncommon for journalists to be told things off the record, and sit on them.

True, but it's Meltzer. Guy can't keep his yap shut about anything WWE related and what their plans are.

ricero

Tony Khan was on talk is Jericho this week. Good listen he seems very knowledgable.

ERG89

https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1095731800666763264?s=19

Double or Nothing sold out very fast.
They'd be dumb not to run a bigger arena later in the year. I do wonder post Jericho vs Omega what they have lined up for the latter as he seems to be a far bigger solo star than anyone else signed. Even with working arrangements there doesn't seem to be anyone there who he hasn't worked with unless fans really want him vs PAC.
Ibushi seems obvious but I think New Japan will try block that if its possible on their side.

sky88

with the small roster i think the lack of new matches will only hurt them once they start doing tv and shows more often.

id love to know is there much separation from the fans who go to all the big wwe events and the ones who are attending this

DEFTLEFTHAND

J. Marston wrote: »

Either Meltzer is bullshing (shocking...) or they're playing the Khans like a fiddle. Leaning towards the former.

Anyone else getting the vibe that Tony Khan is a bit of a mark who the wrestlers are going to take advantage of.

It kind of feels like his Dad bought him a wrestling company.

Agent Coulson

If AEW could get Taker Mean Mark for one match to put someone over who should it be?

johnnyryan89

Agent Coulson wrote: »

If AEW could get Taker Mean Mark for one match to put someone over who should it be?

Joey Ryan just to see the outrage from certain people on the internet.

Agent Coulson

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Joey Ryan just to see the outrage from certain people on the internet.

The Druids vs the Dildos/

nazmoalex

Dildos vs Druids..... take my money! Only if Kevin Sullivan gets to bring back the dungeon of doom and somehow the Sinister Minister is involved!

What if Cody went full 80's and booked all these no name guys as jobbers for tv?

Obviously had a beer... or two.
Joking aside really looking forward to how the whole project works out, good bad or indifferent it has definitely got people talking. It's already getting people better deals and terms by all accounts. So good luck to them.

Monokne

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Anyone else getting the vibe that Tony Khan is a bit of a mark who the wrestlers are going to take advantage of.

It kind of feels like his Dad bought him a wrestling company.

There's clearly an element of that.

However, he's noted he had planned this for a long time and is only launching now. Doing so at a time when TV rights for wrestling have never been larger and there are genuine stars on the outside to launch with is terrific timing. Clearly there is some savvy thinking here.

By the same token, I think we can all look at it and see that having 4 top wrestlers as EVP's with a hand in creative, while Khan will be spending half his time in London on a completely different time zone is going to lead to challenges both in terms of the ability to make decisions efficiently and without conflict.

Lithium93_

Bea Priestley

is the newest addition to All Elite Wrestling's roster.

Agent Coulson

I saw yesterday AEW were turned down on all of names they tried to patent and trademark including AEW.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I saw yesterday AEW were turned down on all of names they tried to patent and trademark including AEW.

Jesus!! Watch Vince make a stable called AEW now

martyos121

MrMac84 wrote: »

Jesus!! Watch Vince make a stable called AEW now

Filled to the absolute brim with jobbers.

CastorTroy

It'll be the new bWo. Or the Mean Street Posse.

Or Miz's new Aew-some faction

hufpc8w3adnk65

martyos121 wrote: »

Filled to the absolute brim with jobbers.

Heath Slater as the leader!

sky88

Why in the hell did they not secure the trademarks before announcing them

J. Marston

Cowboys, Ted. They're a bunch of cowboys.

CastorTroy

Isn't that the fault of their Chief Brandi Officer?

sky88

id be more entailed to put the blame on Billionaire Tony

im sure they wont lose the names as Tony would throw money at it surely but god how much of a disater would that be to lose the name

ricero

What a farce that is. Amateur hour stuff.

I am starting to get a stink of carnie about this.

Monokne

The initial applications were rejected for what are mostly minor, technical reasons. WWE has trademarks rejected all the time - NXT was rejected at first. I wouldn't stress about it, it will be resolved.

gerrybbadd

sky88 wrote: »

id be more entailed to put the blame on Billionaire Tony

im sure they wont lose the names as Tony would throw money at it surely but god how much of a disater would that be to lose the name

I don't think it wold be a major deal to lose the name at this early stage of the company. I'd say many would have said that World Wrestling Federation losing their F, and changing to E would have spelt disaster too.

sky88

gerrybbadd wrote: »

I don't think it wold be a major deal to lose the name at this early stage of the company. I'd say many would have said that World Wrestling Federation losing their F, and changing to E would have spelt disaster too.

but they were a company that was a established were aew is a new company trying to get tv deals and it would just project a bad image of the company straight off the bat

sky88

Wrighty vs tony khan at double or nothing

https://twitter.com/5livesport/status/1102677021824495616?s=21

Agent Coulson

So stories of JR signing a multi year million dollar a year contract.


That alone really does give the whole wrestlers talking a Billionaire for a ride idea some credence.


JR is about 15 years past a million dollar a year contract talent.


They are dead in the water before they start if he is going to be an on air talent.

sirmanga

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So stories of JR signing a multi year million dollar a year contract.


That alone really does give the whole wrestlers talking a Billionaire for a ride idea some credence.


JR is about 15 years past a million dollar a year contract talent.


They are dead in the water before they start if he is going to be an on air talent.

Hear hear.

This is now clearly a money mark operation.

JR can't even cut it on pre recorded New Japan commentary that airs in the middle of the night. Having him blurt out his tired old catchphrases on this new company's show will set it back before it even gets started.

Lithium93_

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So stories of JR signing a multi year million dollar a year contract.


That alone really does give the whole wrestlers talking a Billionaire for a ride idea some credence.


JR is about 15 years past a million dollar a year contract talent.


They are dead in the water before they start if he is going to be an on air talent.

sirmanga wrote: »

Hear hear.

This is now clearly a money mark operation.

JR can't even cut it on pre recorded New Japan commentary that airs in the middle of the night. Having him blurt out his tired old catchphrases on this new company's show will set it back before it even gets going.

I'd agree JR is well past his use by as on air talent, as sirmanga has noted regarding New Japan, he sounds a combination of tired & can't be fecking arsed. He'd be better off used in some kind of backstage role.

They'd be better off hiring others for commentary.

CastorTroy

He never seems to learn anything about the wrestlers. The number of mistakes he makes is crazy

Monokne

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So stories of JR signing a multi year million dollar a year contract.


That alone really does give the whole wrestlers talking a Billionaire for a ride idea some credence.


JR is about 15 years past a million dollar a year contract talent.


They are dead in the water before they start if he is going to be an on air talent.

Come on now.

The announcers in WWE earn fractions of this. Why would Khan approach Ross, who has little leverage, and offer him an obscenely above market salary?

Unless, of course, he is a major VP in the company, like head of talent relations or something. Then I can see a high 6 figure or early 7 figure deal.

Monokne

sirmanga wrote: »

Hear hear.

This is now clearly a money mark operation.

JR can't even cut it on pre recorded New Japan commentary that airs in the middle of the night. Having him blurt out his tired old catchphrases on this new company's show will set it back before it even gets started.

There's a completely unsubstantiated rumour floating in the ether and ***this*** makes up your mind?

Lads, seriously. No one has any idea what level of TV deal they are negotiating, nor for the most part what salaries they are paying out. Maybe Khan is a money mark, maybe he's a savvy businessman, or maybe it is somewhere in the middle. Perhaps best wait for some ACTUAL evidence before leaping to conclusions?

Agent Coulson

Right so no one discuss anything on a message board until actual facts are out there.

Close the thread then.

sirmanga

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Right so no one discuss anything on a message board until actual facts are out there.

Close the thread then.

Yep. Didn't realise this was an academic dissertation and everything needed to by cited for fear of a bad grade.

sky88

Having to listen to jr makes this less watchable for me I’ve grown to really dislike him over the years and there’s just much better commentators out there they could try to get

hufpc8w3adnk65

I don’t watch much if anything outside Raw. Who would you rank top 5 announcers?

ERG89

sky88 wrote: »

Having to listen to jr makes this less watchable for me I’ve grown to really dislike him over the years and there’s just much better commentators out there they could try to get

One thing noticeable is that he knows very little about anyone outside of WWE which is unacceptable in 2019 considering the content of worldwide wrestling isn't exactly hidden now.
I can understand why AEW want people who could be channel hopping to immediately notice something if they stop and watch the show but if you have a guy on commentary who doesn't know the talent on show that is a bigger issue than how interested he sounds.
As far as commentators go...I used to like Mauro Ranallo but after a while he becomes like early 2000's JR spouting his catchphrases.
Cole, Graves and Renee are absolutely sh!t imo; Smackdown's ones aren't much better. I like Kevin Kelly and Ian Riccaboni but often their partners let them down. Don Callis puts himself over too often even as a heel commentator, Lanny Poffo was an assault on ones ears and Chris Charlton does not have a voice for commentary, when he talks above his normal levels I genuinely have no clue what he's saying as he can't seem to get the words out quick enough.

Necro

Katalina Lemon Page wrote:

I don’t watch much if anything outside Raw. Who would you rank top 5 announcers?

That's really hard to come to any sort of agreement on I'd imagine. Most dislike the WWE main announce teams but before they got behind the main desk in most cases a good few were popular on NXT and the likes.

I've heard people speak glowingly of Cole when he's not attached to a RAW or a Smackdown, same with Graves and most recently McGuinness.

It's a difficult situation with as is well documented Vince screaming down the headsets to them to promote this and highlight that and not just letting them focus on the product.

Monokne

Alex Marvez has been reported as the lead announcer. He's been host at both the press conferences too. Perhaps that has changed.

Monokne

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Right so no one discuss anything on a message board until actual facts are out there.

Close the thread then.

You're being completely disingenuous to avoid acknowledging the point I'm making.

No one suggested to not discuss anything. I pointed out that jumping to broad conclusions based on completely unsubstantiated rumours is pointless, which I stand by.

Agent Coulson

Brandi hinting there title belt will be the old mid south belt

Agent Coulson

Bucks & Omega Panel & Q & A at Chicago C2E2

cena

Is aew on tv yet?

Loughc

cena wrote: »

Is aew on tv yet?

Nope no tv deal yet.

sky88

You’d imagine announcing it at double or nothing if they have signed one

Monokne

cena wrote: »

Is aew on tv yet?

The reports are there's no plan to launch a TV show until September/October.

It may behoove them to hold off on making a deal until after Double Or Nothing, when there's more buzz.