AEW - All Elite Wrestling (*Spoilers for Latest Show*)

sky88

JR officially signed up now which is no surprise really for commentary and as a senior advisor

Its good for name value but hes well past his best and was especially terrible at his last mae young classic i honestly get put off if i have to listen to him if/when they get the tv every week

https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1113477159534747648

J. Marston

"The most lucrative deal in pro wrestling commentary history"

This is why this nonsense will last 18 months at most.

Agent Coulson

Is that tweet an actual fact?

Are we allowed to discuss this now?

sirmanga

What an embarrassment. JR hasn't been good on commentary in over 15 years, and as for his advisory role; what does he know about modern wrestling? When has he last worked backstage in an office role?

"Bah Gawd, we gotta sign this young stud, he's a collegiate champion in amateur tiddlywinks"... or something like that.

Go away JR.

Monokne

Seems as though he may only be used in big match situations as opposed to being the play by play guy. Like most, I have not been blown away by his work much over the past few years, although I have read positive reviews of his NJPW stuff with Josh Barnett, overdubbing taped matches.

I would imagine his greater strengths will lie behind the scenes. 45 years of experience has to be good for something.

sky88

Monokne wrote: »

Seems as though he may only be used in big match situations as opposed to being the play by play guy. Like most, I have not been blown away by his work much over the past few years, although I have read positive reviews of his NJPW stuff with Josh Barnett, overdubbing taped matches.

I would imagine his greater strengths will lie behind the scenes. 45 years of experience has to be good for something.

You say that his experience but most on here talk about how out of touch Vince is and he has more experience and listening to his podcast jr seems just as out of touch with this era of wrestling

sirmanga

JR has experience, but that isn't always a good thing.

He peaked about 18 years ago. Everything he has done since has been rubbish, embarrassing or boring. Or all three.

AEW are just trying to appeal to a fan base that was watching in the late 90s/early 00s. Probably when Khan was a big fan.

It's 2019. What next? Are they going to hire Limp Bizkit to do all their entrance themes?

Itssoeasy

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Brandi hinting there title belt will be the old mid south belt

So bill watts gave them the belt then to use ?

Edit: which belt is it ? The North American one or the Louisiana title ?

Itssoeasy

Actually now that I think about it that the AEW title will be either based on or a exact replica of the mid south title isn’t a surprise. I mean Cody loved his dad and his dad held the North American title in mid south wrestling and Cody seems a huge wrestling history buff. Also now with JR on board that’s another mid south connection.

Agent Coulson

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So bill watts gave them the belt then to use ?

Edit: which belt is it ? The North American one or the Louisiana title ?

https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1108830891177140224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1108830891177140224&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fightful.com%2Fwrestling%2Fall-elite-wrestling-title-belt-be-big-mid-south-s-north-american-title

Sirsok

sirmanga wrote: »

What an embarrassment. JR hasn't been good on commentary in over 15 years, and as for his advisory role; what does he know about modern wrestling? When has he last worked backstage in an office role?

"Bah Gawd, we gotta sign this young stud, he's a collegiate champion in amateur tiddlywinks"... or something like that.

Go away JR.

To be fair to the man he has signed some of the greats in professional wrestling in his tenure as head of talent relations, something wwe had failed to replicate with Johnny L before WWE brought in everyone with a name outside WWE.

ERG89

Think AEW is badly in need of a few experienced heads in terms of someone who knows how to put a show together for broadcast, a showrunner essentially.
It's kinda why I expecting a broadcast not to happen for a while.
Stuff like lighting, to the camera work, people who may need to teach others how to work to their best value in front of a camera, someone in recruitment who has their finger on the pulse not just someone who can get tickets to PEG either & you need people who know wrestling to do that so it makes that experience very hard to find. Those who are available who have name value is a miserable list that I would not touch, JR would be on that list.

Jerichoholic

JR is senior adviser. The lads need someone like that to get advice from, there's nobody better. He's not a yes man like Bruce Pritchard, he'll be a great asset.

Jerichoholic

ERG89 wrote: »

Think AEW is badly in need of a few experienced heads in terms of someone who knows how to put a show together for broadcast, a showrunner essentially.
It's kinda why I expecting a broadcast not to happen for a while.
Stuff like lighting, to the camera work, people who may need to teach others how to work to their best value in front of a camera, someone in recruitment who has their finger on the pulse not just someone who can get tickets to PEG either & you need people who know wrestling to do that so it makes that experience very hard to find. Those who are available who have name value is a miserable list that I would not touch, JR would be on that list.

They already hired the ex WCW/TNA television director dude. Can't recall his name.

grames_bond

sirmanga wrote: »

It's 2019. What next? Are they going to hire Limp Bizkit to do all their entrance themes?

I'd be perfectly happy with that!! ðŸ˜ðŸ€˜

gerrybbadd

That Mid South title is horrible

Itssoeasy

gerrybbadd wrote: »

That Mid South title is horrible

Well this is a guess Gerry but I don't think whether a title looked good or not was the biggest concern of bill watts from having watched a good bit of mid south. It wasn't meant to be flashy. It seems like a very straight laced promotion.

Agent Coulson

Justin Roberts has been hired as ring announcer.


Alicia Atout has been hired at the backstage interviewer.


Alex Marvez and Excalibur hired as the broadcast team.

Pentecost

What’s the latest on their TV deal?

Monokne

The most recent update I read was May/June targeted for an announcement, Sept/Oct to start airing.

Agent Coulson

Jim Ross is saying AEW will have a 2 hour live show on a Major Cable Network from October.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Hope it’s on a decent channel here too

Loughc

MrMac84 wrote: »

Hope it’s on a decent channel here too

I hope it’s not on a Monday night.

Monokne

Loughc wrote: »

I hope it’s not on a Monday night.

They have trademarked the name "Tuesday Night Dynamite" and the show is scheduled to debut at the same time as Smackdown is moving to Fridays. Which probably tells us what night of the week their on.:cool:

Loughc

Monokne wrote: »

They have trademarked the name "Tuesday Night Dynamite" and the show is scheduled to debut at the same time as Smackdown is moving to Fridays. Which probably tells us what night of the week their on.:cool:

Tuesday Night Dynamite... reeks of Monday Night Nitro about it...

Monokne

As names go, it does feel fairly derivative.

sky88

Feels a very 80s or early 90s vibe off it

Monokne

Lots of reports that Turner will announce AEW at the upfronts on May 15th. TNT or TBS apparently, debuting the same week Smackdown moves to Friday. Basically, everything that's been rumoured appears to be true.

gerrybbadd

Monokne wrote: »

Lots of reports that Turner will announce AEW at the upfronts on May 15th. TNT or TBS apparently, debuting the same week Smackdown moves to Friday. Basically, everything that's been rumoured appears to be true.

"Vince, I'm back in the Wrastlin' Business"

Agent Coulson

So an AT&T Network that also owns HBO and John Oliver's show was having a dig a WWE.

John Oliver to AEW

sky88

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So an AT&T Network that also owns HBO and John Oliver's show was having a dig a WWE.

John Oliver to AEW

Its an conspiracy against Vince i knew it


:pac::pac::pac::pac:

Deeper Blue

Their TV deal can't come soon enough judging by the state of Raw/Smackdown this week. I'll definitely be checking them out even though I've never really had the time to follow the indies so I'm not that familiar with a lot of the talent.

DEFTLEFTHAND

They can't be serious about that name. 'Tuesday Night Dynamite'.

It's not 1988 anymore.

Monokne

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

They can't be serious about that name. 'Tuesday Night Dynamite'.

It's not 1988 anymore.

I'm not big on the name, but by the same token, it's a name. It's just not particularly important.

Monokne

https://www.thewrap.com/members/2019/04/11/turner-aew-weekly-pro-wrestling-show/

sky88

Well this is intriguing completely different than being reported since it’s launch

https://twitter.com/411wrestling/status/1119009035485945856?s=21

NITRO95

sky88 wrote: »

Well this is intriguing completely different than being reported since it’s launch

https://twitter.com/411wrestling/status/1119009035485945856?s=21

It's not going to be a time buy. Sounds like someone with an agenda got in the guys ear and he just started talking like it was a fact

Monokne

Meltzer and Front Row Brian are still insisting there will be a lucrative TV deal.

There's certainly a ton of rumour on dark twitter that it's a time buy or a revenue split.

I will hold judgement. Brian & Dave get a lot more right than wrong, but it is difficult to understand what would motivate a network to guarantee 8 figures to this company. They've little leverage and no track record. What would make most sense would be a trial period - 6 or 12 months - at a reasonably small number with the promise to renegotiate if AEW does big numbers. Still, it would surprise me if Ross & Jericho signed without seeing something that made them confident they were getting a decent TV deal.

Sidebar, I often ponder the insanity of TNA blowing their Spike deal ***just*** before rights became as lucrative as they are now. If they had maintained even 70% of their audience from the peak, they would be earning 3 or 4 times what they got from Spike at their peak, would be hugely profitable.

Pentecost

Is “dark Twitter” actually a thing? It sounds terribly geeky, no offence!

J. Marston

It's the first time I've ever even heard about it.

Agent Coulson

lol

Is dark Twitter for the Twitter smarks.

NITRO95

Dark twitter is a term people like to use to say they are getting the scoopz that aren't going to be talked about in public. Its the wrestling equivalent of being ITK in football.

What's funny is that those who talk about dark twitter normally haven't a clue of what's going on.

Monokne

I would put more stock in Brian & Dave then twitter rumours for sure.

tvercetti

Goldust Cody Confirmed!

hufpc8w3adnk65

tvercetti wrote: »

Goldust Cody Confirmed!

I thought Dustin / goldust resigned with the WWE when the rumours of this came out previously?

That was a very good promo tho to be fair!

Agent Coulson

Blue Pants has signed with AEW.

Monokne

As have New York tag team 'Private Party' and Pete Avalon.

The roster is pretty uninspiring. Meltzer reported that the Bucks & Cody wanted to go with mostly new talent, not previously exposed in the US, and limit the ex WWE talent involved. I understand that it's important to differentiate themselves, but that roster is seriously lacking in star power. If the like of Banks and Harper get out of their deals, AEW should snap them up. Make a play for Ambrose too. Blue Pants baffles me. She was so limited in her NXT run. Perhaps she has a range I haven't seen.

Anyway, the current roster:

J. Marston

Sasha is going nowhere. Ambrose sounded like he was totally done going by that Shield special but Harper would be a sensible move. You need to have big men and Harper's a good one.

NITRO95

Not sure what is uninspiring about having arguably 3 of the best tag teams in the world (Bucks, Lucha Bros, Best Friends), arguably the best wrestler in the world (Omega), one of the most influential wrestlers of all time (CIMA), solid veterans (Rhodes, Daniels, Kaz). You are also discounting talent like the Super Smash Brothers, Darby Allin, MJF who all have massive potential. Oh yea and there is also PAC Chris fn Jericho and all of the OWE talent.

Their womens division is full of names that even I am not overly familiar with but I feel confident in saying they will blow away anything you will see under the WWE banner. Kylie Rae is a better version of Bayley from everything I have seen, Aja Kong needs no introduction. Allie, Bea and Penelope are solid if unspectacular. Sadie Gibbs could be something special and Hikaru Shida already is according to those who regularly watch Joshi.

I am in no way a huge fan of The Elite, my reaction to them when they were in OTT is a running joke but to dismiss what they have built already as uninspiring is misinformed at best and spoilt at worst. They have built the strongest American roster outside of WWE in over 20 years. Dismissing them before it all even begins is baffling. And all of this is before adding in the potential New Japan talent when they come to a working agreement, which they will.

ERG89

AEW would want to look towards impact in towards of recruiting names. They've quietly build a steady roster with LAX, Blanchard, Su Yung, Taya Valkyrie, Johnny I won't call him Impact, Brian Cage, Sami Callihan, Jordynne Grace, Eddie Edwards, Ethan Page, Josh Alexander, the Rascalz and of course most importantly Scarlett Bordeaux.
I left out Lucha Bros as they work everywhere.