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11 yr/old drag kid worshiped within LGBTQ community (Mod warning op)
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Except that, you see, he's in the US.
Where they have massive shows parading 4/5/6/7/8 year olds in skimpy swimwear and other heavily sexualised contexts.
So I'm not really surprised in a country where they hold child beauty pageants for paedophiles to drool over, they also see no major problem with an 11 year old's burlesque act.
The "drag" isn't the issue here. Like you say, it's the settings, the context.
Drag acts aren't necessarily "racy" or even suggestive. Eddie Izzard's drag was always pantomime. Julian Clary's was flamboyant - though the actual comedy was always racy, the clothing never was.
While I too have my reservations about child beauty pageants seamus, they aren’t held with the intent of having paedophiles drool over children. Paedophiles will do that anyway regardless of context, whether it’s a parent walking through a shopping centre with their children, to the children playing in the public playground, and the weird thing is - the more children look like adults, the less a paedophile is likely to be interested in them - precisely because they don’t look like children.
As for drag itself, yeah, you have a point, but comedy and satire were never the only point of drag either. This new interest in drag has become mainstream because of shows which have become mainstream like RuPaul’s drag race - where nothing is too extravagant or too flamboyant or exaggerated. To be perfectly honest you’d have to really be trying, to see anything sexual about the way they’re dressed. Most of them wear dresses and wigs and makeup that’s a complete departure from who they actually are underneath. It’s still just as much pantomime and pretend. It’s literally dress up for adults, and that’s what’s inspiring children to dress up in the same sort of context. Eddie Izzard, Julian Clary and Ru Paul were often considered over-sexualised, OTT and inappropriate in their hey day too. Remember Kenny Everett’s Cupid Stunt?
What this kids parents are doing is something else entirely, you won't find anyone outside a small niche of paedophiles supporting it.
Well that’s obviously not true, because the only reason it’s being discussed here is because it’s being entertained, applauded and encouraged by mainstream media in the US (not forgetting Conchita Wursts performance in the Eurovision on this side of the pond!), and while the thread title was a blatant exaggeration, Pride every year has become more and more of a family event and less of a political statement. I’m reminded of Lisa Simpson’s reaction to the Pride mantra “We’re here, we’re queer, get used to it!”. She responded with a rather glib “We already are” :pac:
It’s like you said yourself earlier in the thread about raising children now. I’m paraphrasing so correct me if I missed your point but it was something along the lines of parents preparing their children for the world as it is now, as opposed to preparing children for what will be of their futures. Que sera sera, non?0 -
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No, the parent who get involved have something else wrong with them, but they're not trying to pimp their kids out. However the pageants do attract paedophiles and normalise the sexualisation of children. The amount of child sexual abuse that takes place is enormous, but most the parents won't talk about it because they're afraid of being blacklisted by organisers. The state needs to step in and ban them.
I shouldn’t have to point out the obvious, as it is a rather obvious point to make, but anywhere there are children, there are paedophiles who will look for any opportunity to take advantage of them, whether it be child beauty pageants, scouts, sports and of course the most obvious place - Church! What do you suggest, that we ban them all? We would also have to ban the Internet at that rate because it gives paedophiles easy and unfettered access to children.I'm not entirely sure what your point is here.
Are you trying to say that an 11-year-old performing a burlesque act for adults is just a natural consequence of normalising homosexuality? Or even of normalising drag?
No seamus, my point was that the original intent of Pride was a rallying against mainstream society and culture, whereas now the elements that made up Pride, have become mainstream society and culture. It was originally intended as a two fingers to mainstream society so to speak, but now it’s become an event for the whole family, it’s become mainstream, it’s become so mainstream that corporations who once shyed away from it are now embracing it wholeheartedly. It’s no longer the case that Pride is a fringe movement rebelling against social and cultural norms. Now you’re rebelling against social and cultural norms if you’re in any way at all conservative! 0 -
Alrigghtythen wrote: »While your 7 year old brains were trying the figure out which hand to use
this 7 year old was dancing on a bar in a cocktail dress
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https://youtu.be/zeaVCB9qlto
Fcuk, that kid doesn't look healthy. :eek:0 -
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I’m not sure I can handle any more of your posts.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
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