11 yr/old drag kid worshiped within LGBTQ community (Mod warning op)

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

BattleCorp wrote: »

I take it from the highlighted sentence above you wouldn't be happy with the object of this thread, Desmond Napoles, participating in a gay pride parade?

I guess the nightclub stuff he did would be wrong too, yes?

I would be very much against it, yes, and have said so very early on in the thread.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It's not the drag element of it that bothers me - or the fact that he might be promoted by said community - it's the fact that he's in an adult nightclub (if that is indeed the case - only seen a glimpse of the video) that would bother me.

But I'm surprised that authorities have not stepped in if that WAS the case, which makes me suspicious about some of the claims about that this kid is (and is not) exposed to.

Have we any evidence of the imitation-shorting element claimed by the OP? And the context it was in?

klaaaz

DanDan6592 wrote: »

Desmond was brought back up to counter your argument that bringing the children to pride events isn't sexualising them, when there is a video of a child twerking in Little clothing at a pride event.

BattleCorp wrote: »

I guess the nightclub stuff he did would be wrong too, yes?

Taking the moral high ground is a dodgy quality of the objectors of Pride. Pride involves many hundreds of thousands of people in different countries celebrating diversity in society and yet we have one example of child exploitation in a far away country thousands of miles away being used by those anti-drag posters to do their utmost to damage what Pride represents at home here in Ireland where there are no examples of child exploitations and if it did happen LGBT people would be the first in line to phone the authorities!

There should be laws against writing sentences that long.

Zorya

klaaaz wrote: »

Taking the moral high ground is a dodgy quality of the objectors of Pride. Pride involves many hundreds of thousands of people in different countries celebrating diversity in society and yet we have one example of child exploitation in a far away country thousands of miles away being used by those anti-drag posters to do their utmost to damage what Pride represents at home here in Ireland where there are no examples of child exploitations and if it did happen LGBT people would be the first in line to phone the authorities!

The overall argument could be summarised as there cannot be ''anything goes'' when it comes to Pride/LGBTQ. It is thus in the heterosexual world. Same standards for everyone.
Adult sexuality and sexualised gender matters are not the concern of children.

Yet when people object to ''anything goes'' they are labelled homophobes, transphobes, ''objectors of Pride''. This lack of mature nuance is going to harm the LGB movement more than anyone else, so tread carefully.

There are limits to everyone's behaviour.

Thus a small child dancing provocatively in a gay night club is not acceptable in any world.
Nor should he be lauded on national television in the US or anywhere else.
Nor should other small boys like Lactatia from Canada be lauded publicly, which he is in the name of gender diversity.
Nor should children be subjected in the name of diversity to unscientific ideology that tells them they could have been born in the wrong body.
Nor should cross sex hormones be administered to 8 year old children (Johanna Olson Kennedy, LA) or any children at all up to the age of brain maturity.
Nor should a small boy twerk half naked at a Pride parade.
Nor should half clad sexualised drag men such as I linked earlier in the London 2018 photo walk through public spaces in front of children.
Nor should drag acts whose normal sphere of activity is in the fetish/kink world be engaged for children's reading hour in a Dublin library.

In these instances - and many like them - cries of 'homophobe' or 'transphobe' etc amount to a boy calling Wolf.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Zorya wrote: »

The overall argument could be summarised as there cannot be ''anything goes'' when it comes to Pride/LGBTQ. It is thus in the heterosexual world. Same standards for everyone.
Adult sexuality and sexualised gender matters are not the concern of children.

Yet when people object to ''anything goes'' they are labelled homophobes, transphobes, ''objectors of Pride''. This lack of mature nuance is going to harm the LGB movement more than anyone else, so tread carefully.

There are limits to everyone's behaviour.

Thus a small child dancing provocatively in a gay night club is not acceptable in any world.
Nor should he be lauded on national television in the US or anywhere else.
Nor should other small boys like Lactatia from Canada be lauded publicly, which he is in the name of gender diversity.
Nor should children be subjected in the name of diversity to unscientific ideology that tells them they could have been born in the wrong body.
Nor should cross sex hormones be administered to 8 year old children (Johanna Olson Kennedy, LA) or any children at all up to the age of brain maturity.
Nor should a small boy twerk half naked at a Pride parade.
Nor should half clad sexualised drag men such as I linked earlier in the London 2018 photo walk through public spaces in front of children.
Nor should drag acts whose normal sphere of activity is in the fetish/kink world be engaged for children's reading hour in a Dublin library.

In these instances - and many like them - cries of 'homophobe' or 'transphobe' etc amount to a boy calling Wolf.

I think the labeling here is a bit unfair - as in calling people "phobic". Personally, I ahven't seen any homophobia in this thread. Possibly some very mild transphobia at a stretch, but emphasis on the "possibly".

Regarding the list you posted, with the exception of the London street-art photo, I'd agree with you there too. Calling the London one sexual is akin SJWs
calling Friends racist.

Zorya

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I think the labeling here is a bit unfair - as in calling people "phobic". Personally, I ahven't seen any homophobia in this thread. Possibly some very mild transphobia at a stretch, but emphasis on the "possibly".

Regarding the list you posted, with the exception of the London street-art photo, I'd agree with you there too. Calling the London one sexual is akin SJWs
calling Friends racist.

Thanks

I do think the London one is sexual because of the outfit but I appreciate the rest of your post.

klaaaz

Zorya wrote: »

There are limits to everyone's behaviour.

Thus a small child dancing provocatively in a gay night club is not acceptable in any world.
Nor should he be lauded on national television in the US or anywhere else.
Nor should other small boys like Lactatia from Canada be lauded publicly, which he is in the name of gender diversity.
Nor should children be subjected in the name of diversity to unscientific ideology that tells them they could have been born in the wrong body.
Nor should cross sex hormones be administered to 8 year old children (Johanna Olson Kennedy, LA) or any children at all up to the age of brain maturity.
Nor should a small boy twerk half naked at a Pride parade.
Nor should half clad sexualised drag men such as I linked earlier in the London 2018 photo walk through public spaces in front of children.
Nor should drag acts whose normal sphere of activity is in the fetish/kink world be engaged for children's reading hour in a Dublin library.

In these instances - and many like them - cries of 'homophobe' or 'transphobe' etc amount to a boy calling Wolf.

You are really doing your utmost best to mix drag and trans as the same thing, when they are not and that's blatantly dishonest of you. Yes, children should not be exposed to many on that list, don't think any of that has happened in Ireland(bar the recent drag reading controversy) nor has it any connection to Ireland. Have you been in touch with the American authorities yet to report your concerns?

Zorya

klaaaz wrote: »

You are really doing your utmost best to mix drag and trans as the same thing, when they are not and that's blatantly dishonest of you. Yes, children should not be exposed to many on that list, don't think any of that has happened in Ireland(bar the recent drag reading controversy) nor has it any connection to Ireland. Have you been in touch with the American authorities yet to report your concerns?

Johanna Olson Kennedy who last year gained funds to administer Testosterone to girls from the age of 8 was this month a guest speaker at Bristol University which is 200 miles as the crow flies from Dublin. Tavistock gender clinic in London treated 100 Irish children in the past 2 years. Do you want things happening in your back garden before they become relevant?

Anyway why are you on a thread that is about a child in the US? Hope you don't comment in threads about Donald Trump or EU matters or New Zealand etc. etc.

klaaaz

Zorya wrote: »

Johanna Olson Kennedy who last year gained funds to administer Testosterone to girls from the age of 8 was this month a guest speaker at Bristol University which is 200 miles as the crow flies from Dublin. Tavistock gender clinic in London treated 100 Irish children in the past 2 years. Do you want things happening in your back garden before they become relevant?

Anyway why are you on a thread that is about a child in the US? Hope you don't comment in threads about Donald Trump or EU matters or New Zealand etc. etc.

Why you posting trans stuff on a drag thread? I'm not an American like you so I have little interest in their deep internal affairs in what goes on from Philadelphia to LA to some small US town, as i'm Irish living in Ireland.

Zorya

klaaaz wrote: »

Why you posting trans stuff on a drag thread? I'm not an American like you so I have little interest in their deep internal affairs in what goes on from Philadelphia to LA to some small US town, as i'm Irish living in Ireland.

I'm going to bow out soon because it feels like boxing marshmallows :pac:

Thread - Drag kid performs in LGB community space - same kid Lauded on national television as poster child for gender non conformity - links thus to transgenderism - esp re ideological normalising among young via education and media thereof. Etc. Snoring now.....

klaaaz

klaaaz wrote:

Why you posting trans stuff on a drag thread? I'm not an American like you so I have little interest in their deep internal affairs in what goes on from Philadelphia to LA to some small US town, as i'm Irish living in Ireland.

Yeah .. why are you directly addressing points that Klaaaz made directly to you?

Pffft some people....

klaaaz

Zorya wrote: »

I'm going to bow out soon because it feels like boxing marshmallows :pac:

Thread - Drag kid performs in LGB community space - same kid Lauded on national television as poster child for gender non conformity - links thus to transgenderism - esp re ideological normalising among young via education and media thereof. Etc. Snoring now.....

Drag kid has nothing to do with the transgender issue and it was not on national television (RTE/TV3).

Why have you not posted your drag concerns in the LGBT forum? (Hint: the conservative Heritage Foundation you like would not be popular there for you)

An idea, have you tried putting your posts on an American forum instead? (seen as you have not reported the American issues to the American authorities)

BattleCorp

klaaaz wrote: »

Taking the moral high ground is a dodgy quality of the objectors of Pride. Pride involves many hundreds of thousands of people in different countries celebrating diversity in society and yet we have one example of child exploitation in a far away country thousands of miles away being used by those anti-drag posters to do their utmost to damage what Pride represents at home here in Ireland where there are no examples of child exploitations and if it did happen LGBT people would be the first in line to phone the authorities!

If you look at any of my posts in this thread, I haven't been critical of gay people, nor have I been critical of pride parades or adult drag artists etc.

What I have been critical of is the carry-on of Desmond and his entourage, and critical of similar underage drag performers such as Lactatia and his entourage.

Just because that carry-on happens in far away countries doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't pass comment or learn from them here.

Another area I have been critical is where sexually explicit adult groups are performing for or near children. I wouldn't consider myself a prude but I don't think groups like Glitterhole, who market themselves very sexually, should be performing shows where children are present. Their material is unsuitable for children.

Anyway, back to that Desmond is Amazing kid. His life is seriously fcuked up. Not his fault by the way. The finger is pointed straight in the direction of his parents on that one.

Roger Hassenforder

klaaaz wrote: »

Drag kid has nothing to do with the transgender issue and it was not on national television (RTE/TV3).

Why have you not posted your drag concerns in the LGBT forum? (Hint: the conservative Heritage Foundation you like would not be popular there for you)

An idea, have you tried putting your posts on an American forum instead? (seen as you have not reported the American issues to the American authorities)

Yea Zorya, how dare you express on opinion on an internet site.

Patty Hearst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUto5LJ2AmY

many will find this to be totally depraved

Anyone who cares for children/humanity will find it depraved.

The world has gone to ****

Tommy Robinson threads have been closed. This is ok

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Patty Hearst wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUto5LJ2AmY

many will find this to be totally depraved

Not totally, but there are a few scenes in that thta would make me think - ok... that's a bit too far...

I mean, wearing make-up, a dress and having dance lessons? Yeah, fair enough. As long as the kid enjoys it - and there's a point where he says he loves it.

Walking down main street in a tight dress and make you wouldn't feel comfortable even letting a girl of the same age wear at night in public? That's wrong.

Zorya

Patty Hearst wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUto5LJ2AmY

many will find this to be totally depraved

Oh for fnuk sake!
In before people say it's 'dress up' or equivalent of 'kids beauty pageant'. It's 100% not! There are wholly sexualised elements that are intrinsic and fundamental to this display. The large emphasised lips, the long fake eyelashes, the uber high heels which have long been used as sexualising clothing, the body movements which are based around sexual poses, hips gyrating, groin movements, legs akimbo, it is totally sexualised. Those narcissistic moronic brainless exploitative mothers! Grrrrrrrrr :mad:

conorhal

Zorya wrote: »

Oh for fnuk sake!
In before people say it's 'dress up' or equivalent of 'kids beauty pageant'. It's 100% not! There are wholly sexualised elements that are intrinsic and fundamental to this display. The large emphasised lips, the long fake eyelashes, the uber high heels which have long been used as sexualising clothing, the body movements which are based around sexual poses, hips gyrating, groin movements, legs akimbo, it is totally sexualised. Those narcissistic moronic brainless exploitative mothers! Grrrrrrrrr :mad:

This Onion article will never stop being accurate....


https://www.theonion.com/gay-pride-parade-sets-mainstream-acceptance-of-gays-bac-1819566014

Il Fascista

Has anyone here heard of this case?https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/legal-dispute-between-trans-child-and-father-takes-new-turn-over-freedom-of-expression

B.C. Supreme Court Justice Gregory Bowden subsequently granted the request, concluding that there should not be any further delays to treatment, citing the boy’s risk of suicide. Bowden also went on to declare that any attempts to persuade the boy to abandon treatment, addressing the boy by his birth name or referring to the boy as a girl or with female pronouns “shall be considered to be family violence.

Absolute madness. If this decision isn't overruled the people who were quick to call Jordan Peterson alarmist will look like fools.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Il Fascista wrote: »

Has anyone here heard of this case?https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/legal-dispute-between-trans-child-and-father-takes-new-turn-over-freedom-of-expression


Absolute madness. If this decision isn't overruled the people who were quick to call Jordan Peterson alarmist will look like fools.

You'd have to wonder: what's more important to a parent: your freedom of speech or your 14-year old kid's health?

The tragedy here isn't the ruling, it's the fact that it got this far in the first place.

Potential-Monke

I stopped at 1.25. Everything was fairly ok until then, when the child wearing a dress lies on the ground and spreads his legs like a porn star... Couldn't keep watching. That's just sick.

Roger Hassenforder

I got as far as "Just like the Sistine chapel..."

splashuum

https://twitter.com/huffpostqueer/status/1137011335206588416?s=21

The latest on Desmond. It’s mad that this is accepted by some lunatics.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

splashuum wrote: »

https://twitter.com/huffpostqueer/status/1137011335206588416?s=21

The latest on Desmond. It’s mad that this is accepted by some lunatics.

Absolutely. That wig simply does NOT go with that lipstick.

Dante7

splashuum wrote: »

https://twitter.com/huffpostqueer/status/1137011335206588416?s=21

The latest on Desmond. It’s mad that this is accepted by some lunatics.

It's Queer Theory* gone mad and the woke just blindly accept it. Stay away from kids, you ghouls.

*Queer theory is not to be confused with queer, as in gay. This mistake has been made numerous times in this thread. Queer Theory in its new incarnation has been hijacked by perverts. It advocates for the removal of all sexual barriers and social norms and is the new home for paedophiles, MAPs, zoophiles (bestiality), furries, baby fetishists and other fcuked up bizarros.

ceadaoin.

Dante7 wrote: »

It's Queer Theory* gone mad and the woke just blindly accept it. Stay away from kids, you ghouls.

*Queer theory is not to be confused with queer, as in gay. This mistake has been made numerous times in this thread. Queer Theory in its new incarnation has been hijacked by perverts. It advocates for the removal of all sexual barriers and social norms and is the new home for paedophiles, MAPs, zoophiles (bestiality), furries, baby fetishists and other fcuked up bizarros.

And it seems to be influencing policy in some places. Look at how the NSPCC defines abuse in the program that they teach to children

when a child is being made, asked, or rewarded for doing anything with their body that frightens or worries them – or being made to do this to somebody else’

So it's only abuse if the victim feels like it is. So those children who are groomed and don't think that it's actually wrong aren't being abused at all apparently. Ffs, it sounds an awful lot like paedophile rhetoric

Dante7

ceadaoin. wrote: »

And it seems to be influencing policy in some places. Look at how the NSPCC defines abuse in the program that they teach to children



So it's only abuse if the victim feels like it is. So those children who are groomed and don't think that it's actually wrong aren't being abused at all apparently. Ffs, it sounds an awful lot like paedophile rhetoric

It's a hair's breadth away from children can consent to sex.

Zorya

On Desmond's own YT channel you can watch lots of his performances.


The most noticeable thing is how lame and talentless he is. But what he does have is an effete, druggish, anorexic, limply sexual thing going on just beneath the surface all the time. Little sashays, little pouts, bony hips and bony shoulders jutting. Not sexualised at all, say some :rolleyes:

And when he removes items of clothing on stage, there are big whoops from the sudience, for example,

At 1 minute in on this video he starts to mince and untie his ribbons...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFqhyNxh_Eo

At 30 seconds in on this one he shrugs off his frock...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=majcQ54vlDs

But besides that he is almost limp, he knows just a few moves - the same moves he has been doing to the whoops of adults since way before he was 8, which he is here, shaking that thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfd_16TKlfs

This is normal now. Drag Kids Brunch, where adults can sip coffee and cocktails and perve on the little boys vamping in their gowns and makeup...

https://twitter.com/vicecanada/status/1136676637423149056

You're a square if you don't cheer yourself raw.

sbsquarepants

Zorya wrote: »

This is normal now. Drag Kids Brunch, where adults can sip coffee and cocktails and perve on the little boys vamping in their gowns and makeup...

https://twitter.com/vicecanada/status/1136676637423149056

You're a square if you don't cheer yourself raw.

Square I am so.

That is nothing short of disgusting!