Sleeping through safety demo

Under His Eye

Is it illegal for passengers to sleep during the safety demo?

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Under His Eye wrote: »

Is it illegal for passengers to sleep during the safety demo?

Can't see why it would be but it's probably not a good idea not knowing where the exits are

Under His Eye

There is a command given to remove headphones which seems to be enforced.

vicwatson

Such an antisocial thing and rude behaviour tbf. The very ones that would cause obstructions etc in the event of an emergency

Under His Eye

But is it against any laws?

Westernyelp

Under His Eye wrote:

But is it against any laws?

Of course not

VG31

The last Aer Lingus flight I was on they didn't even do a safety demo!

Sleeper12

You must remove over ear headphones (not in ear). This annoys me. I've been on enough flights that I could do the safety thing myself. My headphones are noise cancelling because I'm autistic & they keep my stress levels down.

I can't imagine that it's ever illegal to be asleep except when in control of a vehicle. I admire anyone that can fall asleep before take off. I mean it's usually minutes between getting settled & the safety demo

Sleeper12

VG31 wrote:

The last Aer Lingus flight I was on they didn't even do a safety demo!

Now that is illegal as far as I know.

goingnowhere

If they played the video then no demo is required

NH2013

Well, it's illegal/against the law not to follow crew instructions related to safety, so if you are instructed to "Pay attention as we go through the safety features of this aircraft" and instead you sleep through it that would technically be breaking the law and an offence on board an aircraft.

California Dreamer

VG31 wrote: »

The last Aer Lingus flight I was on they didn't even do a safety demo!

I find that very hard to believe!

VG31

goingnowhere wrote: »

If they played the video then no demo is required

It was an A320 so there were no screens. All they said was to look at the safety card if you hadn't flown the aircraft type in a while.

john boye

Sometimes I look at CC half-heartedly demonstrating how to put on the life jacket and realise I wouldn't have a bull's notion how to put it on if something happened.

elperello

Even if you are a frequent flyer it is a courtesy to the cabin crew to at least appear to be taking notice.

Laphroaig52

VG31 wrote: »

It was an A320 so there were no screens. All they said was to look at the safety card if you hadn't flown the aircraft type in a while.

Hmmmm.....I'd say you might have dozed off......

TheChizler

California Dreamer wrote: »

I find that very hard to believe!

They were probably asleep...

WoollyRedHat

Under His Eye wrote: »

Is it illegal for passengers to sleep during the safety demo?

Yes they withhold the masks for those who don't pay attention in the event of a crash AFAIK.

Victor

You should also be awake for take-off and landing - the times when incidents are most likely.

Stovepipe

VG31 wrote: »

It was an A320 so there were no screens. All they said was to look at the safety card if you hadn't flown the aircraft type in a while.

is this for real? CCs not doing the safety demo is a sackable offense and the Captain would get a bollocking of the highest order for tolerating it. the IAA would certainly take issue with it.

markpb

elperello wrote: »

Even if you are a frequent flyer it is a courtesy to the cabin crew to at least appear to be taking notice.

Do the cabin crew really care? Thousands of passengers a day, different faces each time, say the same thing, know that in the event of an emergency, most people will rely on instructions then, not instructions they were only half listening to prior to take off. I find it hard to believe they’d take it personally if someone was asleep. Talking, distracting others maybe but sleeping, I doubt it.

HTCOne

It's a legal requirement yes, as is enforcing the seatbelt sign on the ground etc. Random inspections ARE carried out by regulators, non compliance results in absolutely eye watering fines and possible firing for the crews. As anyone who deals with the regulator knows, once you cross them on one issue they suddenly become very inquisitive and interfering on a plethora of other issues.

elperello

markpb wrote: »

Do the cabin crew really care? Thousands of passengers a day, different faces each time, say the same thing, know that in the event of an emergency, most people will rely on instructions then, not instructions they were only half listening to prior to take off. I find it hard to believe they’d take it personally if someone was asleep. Talking, distracting others maybe but sleeping, I doubt it.

Possibly not but like I say it's just a courtesy.
It's not that hard to sit up and look interested for a couple of minutes.

VG31

Stovepipe wrote: »

is this for real? CCs not doing the safety demo is a sackable offense and the Captain would get a bollocking of the highest order for tolerating it. the IAA would certainly take issue with it.

Unless they were doing it silently past the exit rows, there's no way I would have missed it. I was sitting near the front where there were very little people but I would have at lease heard it if they did it.

stormanimal

VG31 wrote: »

Unless they were doing it silently past the exit rows, there's no way I would have missed it. I was sitting near the front where there were very little people but I would have at lease heard it if they did it.

I find this quite unbelievable to be honest. It wouldn't happen and there are set procedures in place so the cabin crew wouldn't have forgotten not to do it. Not to do it would be a major breach in safety and standard operating procedures.

I'd say you wasn't paying attention or must have fallen asleep.

VG31

stormanimal wrote: »

I find this quite unbelievable to be honest. It wouldn't happen and there are set procedures in place so the cabin crew wouldn't have forgotten not to do it. Not to do it would be a major breach in safety and standard operating procedures.

I'd say you wasn't paying attention or must have fallen asleep.

I find it hard to believe it myself but I can't sleep on planes and always make a point of listening to the safety demonstrations.

There were definitely no cabin crew in front of me doing the demo, it's possible there were some behind me.

Maybe I did somehow completely zone out for 5 minutes but I find that very unlikely (albeit looking back it's also unlikely that they didn't do it).

Locker10a

VG31 wrote: »

I find it hard to believe it myself but I can't sleep on planes and always make a point of listening to the safety demonstrations.

There were definitely no cabin crew in front of me doing the demo, it's possible there were some behind me.

Maybe I did somehow completely zone out for 5 minutes but I find that very unlikely (albeit looking back it's also unlikely that they didn't do it).

An EI a320 typically carries 4 cabin crew, I’m going to go there and say I think it’s impossible that 4 cabin crew who’s raison d'être is onboard safety all forgot about doing the safety demo.
I find on EI the demo is done promptly after door closure so it likely you somehow missed it, perhaps with earphones in finishing texts or emails?

bigar

I fly as good as every week and always pay attention to the safety demonstration. The reason is that when an emergency occurs, people will panic and may actually forget what they have been told a long time ago. When it is fresh in their mind, this is less likely.

Case in point: https://www.heart.co.uk/lifestyle/flight-safety-demo-selfie/

Jack1985

VG31 wrote: »

The last Aer Lingus flight I was on they didn't even do a safety demo!

Complete bull sorry. Most flight deck in EI listen in on the cabin for situational awareness in relation to knowing when they will be ready and the situation in the cabin (all this in addition to a secure call), not doing a demo wouldn't fly so to speak and It is unheard of frankly that Cabin Crew wouldn't carry out a demo the point of it being their sole purpose on board.

Doctors room ghost

I do give the pilot a round of applause when they land.im old school. The missus pretends not to know me though when I do it.

gctest50

Victor wrote: »

You should also be awake for take-off and landing - the times when incidents are most likely.

It won't end well if it loses power on takeoff

end up like this yoke, mini mushroom cloud :