Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2019

murpho999

yourdeadwright wrote: »

He was awful first half ,

But good in the second half.

awec

murpho999 wrote: »

What form? It's only 2 draws.

Before that form was Won 19 Drew 3 Lost 1.

Our form is fine.

2 wins in our last 5 games.

ShamoBuc

NukaCola wrote: »

3 points clear. No room for error now, maybe thats what we need. If it is pressure, which I dont think it is, its a really bad sign with a 1/3 of the season to go. Plenty of football to go. Need Trent back ASAP, that balace is crucial....even Lovren would improve us at CB....lack of goals from anyone outside the front three too. Plenty of problems but I back Klopp to sort them.

Disappointing to see so many write off a team thats been amazing this season but thats fickle football fans for ya.

Very true.

citytillidie

ozzy78 wrote: »

We miss a creative midfielder to make a killer pass against packed defences or score from distance...Coutinho would be ideal at the moment but then again we mightn't have had the money to get VVD if Phil wasn't sold to Barca.

When Coutinho was with Liverpool he was not very good at doing that in tight games like tonight

murpho999

awec wrote: »

2 wins in our last 5 games.

1 defeat was away to City.

Really this is not a crisis.....yet.

Chesty08

murpho999 wrote: »

What form? It's only 2 draws.

Before that form was Won 19 Drew 3 Lost 1.

Our form is fine.

Dropped 7 points in our last 5 games. Continue at that rate and won’t finish 2nd.

That form!

ozzy78

cmac2009 wrote: »

A game of two halves - terrible in the 1st,much improved second

Totally agree. His 2nd half performance was his best so far. Hopefully this will boost his confidence and we'll see more of this in the future.

Gbear

Ardent wrote: »

City have an easier run-in than we do. If I was putting money down now I certainly wouldn't be putting it on Liverpool.

We've 7 home games, of which 3 are against Wolves, Chelsea and Spurs

We've 6 away games, of which 2 are against Utd and Everton.

6 of those games are against the current bottom 6.


City have 7 away games, of which 2 area gainst Utd and Everton

They have 6 home games, of which 2 area against Spurs and Chelsea.

3 of those are against the current bottom 6.


I don't really see any way you can paint them as having the easier fixtures.
They also have at a minimum, 2 extra cup fixtures in that run, including the League Cup final against Chelsea at the end of the month.

awec

murpho999 wrote: »

1 defeat was away to City.

Really this is not a crisis.....yet.

And?

We've won 2 of our last 5 games. Tonight we only got a point thanks to a dodgy offside. Against Leicester we were hopeless. We conceded three at home to Palace.

There is no point in us acting the ostrich, our form is poor. We've hit a spell where we are really struggling, if it doesn't get fixed right away we can forget about a title. Not really sure how it's negative to point that out.

murpho999

Chesty08 wrote: »

Dropped 7 points in our last 5 games. Continue at that rate and won’t finish 2nd.

That form!

Why does form only start from when we first lost a game?

Do people really think that pattern will just continue.

francie81

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

We're 3 pts clear at top of the league with a lot of tough games now out of the way, and we're talking like we are 10 adrift and out of the title race.
Weird!

Might have something to do with us being so disjointed atm unless that changes in the meantime by getting important players back otherwise how could you have confidence in lifting the title, come on be realistic rather than seeing 3pts clear in early February?

Blondie919

Seriously, the amount of posters on here who've given in already is staggering. Yes, Liverpool have been playing crap lately but there's still only one team that have beaten them. We're missing a lot of players through injury. We're drawing when we "should" be winning. But, we are still 3 clear at the top. Still have the best defence in the league.


Our nearest rivals are dropping points while only having a small handful of players missing. City are not the same scary City from last season. Liverpool sure as hell are not scared of them. Why the hell should the fans? Screw this! I'm not giving in when there's still 13 games to go.

Utopia Parkway

Firmino was like an extra man for West Ham tonight. Might have been his worst game for Liverpool. Broke up countless attacks.

theoneeyedman

D'Agger wrote: »

One swallow does not a summer make, but Naby Keita looked very good tonight, if he played like Fabinho no doubt people would be raving about how it was another poor performance

This.

Was quiet enough in the first half (not terrible IMHO as some would suggest) was the one shining light, along with Mane, in the second half. Really tried to drive us in and increase the pace of the passing. It didn't always work, and at times it looked like he was nearly trying too hard, but I thought he was excellent, and nearly pulled a rabbit out of the hat at the end, only for Origi to fluff his lines. Hopefully, he takes confidence from this and drives on from here.

Overall, we weren't great, moved the ball too slowly again and were very narrow. I wonder if we were better with Fab at RB with even Milner in midfield?

yourdeadwright

awec wrote: »

murpho999 wrote: »

1 defeat was away to City.

Really this is not a crisis.....yet.

And?

We've won 2 of our last 5 games. Tonight we only got a point thanks to a dodgy offside. Against Leicester we were hopeless. We conceded three at home to Palace.

There is no point in us acting the ostrich, our form is poor. We've hit a spell where we are really struggling, if it doesn't get fixed right away we can forget about a title. Not really sure how it's negative to point that out.

Two wins since City game,
One we let in 3 at home to Palace ,and the other we won with a peno ,
Form been pretty poor ,

awec

murpho999 wrote: »

Why does form only start from when we first lost a game?

Do people really think that pattern will just continue.

Well when people talk about current form it is fair to say they never, ever, ever mean the result of every single game in the entire season.

Results in September, October, November have absolutely zero relevance when talking about "current form".

ozzy78

citytillidie wrote: »

When Coutinho was with Liverpool he was not very good at doing that in tight games like tonight

He scored lots of long range goals though.

Potential Underachiever

What was the story with all the posts about Henderson during the match? Serious vendetta going on there, he wasn't even in the squad and yet is getting slated, I can assure you he could not have been worse than what was out there tonight.

Regards the match tonight, horrific display, we could do with the heimlich manouevre right now becasue we are choking big time, just showing no bottle when we looked to have the league almost in our grasp. I don't know what's happening at the back but defending set pieces is gone to shyte.

Keita did improve in the 2nd half, Mane was decent but the rest were pretty poor with a special mention to Firmino, he was playing as if he was drunk tonight, games like that I wish we had a decent back up to him. Squad is just too thin. If we don't beat Bornemouth next up we may as well forget about it.

citytillidie

Still very much in Liverpools hands they need a kick up the backside and hopefully Trent is back soon as no body is really out the right and really need Milners experience back in the middle to get back to 4-3-3 again

HandsomeBob

SlickRic wrote: »

It's also shown that, in reality, we've fúck all on the bench.

Origi did well as did Lallana. They're two good options to have now.

It's sad that injuries are costing us so dearly at a crucial time. Like Keita can't really perform the disciplined role he's been asked to but you can see flashes of his class when the shackles are off.

It's madness that we've only lost once in 25 games in spite of all that yet our own fans are fuelling the bottle job narrative.

I'm ready to enjoy the scrap anyway.

NukaCola

Blondie919 wrote: »

Seriously, the amount of posters on here who've given in already is staggering

At least no-one mentioned Buvac yet.....

emo72

Every team has injuries. It's about having the cover. We don't. Maybe went one season too far with milner. Our form is shocking, there's always hope. But if we can't raise ourselves for this match I give up.

NabyLadistheman

Firmino and his pissy tippy tappy one-touch football giving the ball away time & time again. This is nothing new. Mane V Palace same thing, ball away goal. Robertson v Leicester & now Firmino Mane again lazy in possession and a goal.

Plenty twists & turns to come yet

martyos121

Should be beating Bournemouth at Anfield this weekend, then we have 10 days rest before Bayern and we’ll definitely have at least a couple back from injury at that point. With VVD suspended for that match, he’ll have 15 days rest before facing United away, so he should be in much better shape than he’s looked in the last couple of games. That’ll be our biggest game of the season, and how we get on there will tell us a lot more about our title chances than a scrappy draw away to West Ham missing half our defence and two of our three best midfielders.

Still absolutely loving this season, the doom merchants won’t bring me down to their level.

BorneTobyWilde

Game would be 0-0 wit VAR
Both goals were wrong
Origi was the chance, had more time than he thought, a cool Salah in there and we'd have won.

rob316

awec wrote: »

And?

We've won 2 of our last 5 games. Tonight we only got a point thanks to a dodgy offside. Against Leicester we were hopeless. We conceded three at home to Palace.

There is no point in us acting the ostrich, our form is poor. We've hit a spell where we are really struggling, if it doesn't get fixed right away we can forget about a title. Not really sure how it's negative to point that out.

We were always going to hit a tough patch, we were ridiculously consistent up till the Leicester game. Injuries have upset the balance of the side, keita and shaqiri can't do what hendo and gini do.

We need a couple of bodies back, give a good performance and win against Bournemouth and stop the slide. Can't be thinking about United away, we have to get 3 points Saturday.

murpho999

awec wrote: »

And?

We've won 2 of our last 5 games. Tonight we only got a point thanks to a dodgy offside. Against Leicester we were hopeless. We conceded three at home to Palace.

There is no point in us acting the ostrich, our form is poor. We've hit a spell where we are really struggling, if it doesn't get fixed right away we can forget about a title. Not really sure how it's negative to point that out.

You can argue stuff like dodgy off-sides all day. West Ham hadn't scored then so it would have been a different game.

A week ago we were looking at going 7 clear but we have had 2 disappointing draws.
We could also have lost the games as well but we didn't so that is positive.

I'm not accepting after a brilliant first 20 games of winning 17 and drawing 3 that we're in a crisis.
We could not expect that form to keep going all season.

Win the next game and everything will be different.

kingshankly

People criticising posters for being negative but crist lads that team is currently awful players form has fell of cliff
Vvd looking human
Robertson suddenly looks like Moreno
Salah and firmino look clueless
Shaq looks even worse

fyfe79

martyos121 wrote: »

Still absolutely loving this season, the doom merchants won’t bring me down to their level.

True, it's a little early yet to be congratulating Utd fans on City winning the league. Get a few players back and hopefully Salah & Firmino find form again soon.

Ardent

Blondie919 wrote: »

We're missing a lot of players through injury. We're drawing when we "should" be winning.
.

Let's get real - we should have lost these last two games.

awec

For the talk of having no bench, Origi did more in his cameo than Firmino did all game.

BorneTobyWilde

Start Sturridge next game, Firmino needs a reminder like a horse.

Super-Rush

Jaysus some people have been drinking the lemonade already.

Bobby's useless.
Robbo is pants.
VVD isn't worth the price we paid.

Have a fcuking word with yourselves.

ebbsy

The lack of pace, we are moving the ball sideways and backwards. It's all very ponderous.

We aren't creating many chances either, and our frees are poor as well.

HandsomeBob

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Start Sturridge next game, Firmino needs a reminder like a horse.

Wouldn't be against an Origi start but the other one can **** off.

PrettyBoy

Seriously disappointing results for 2 games they should have boxed off easily and given them a cushion before the points that will inevitably be lost against Spurs, United, Chelsea and probably Everton. Don't know how anyone can argue that they're doing OK to come away with a point against struggling teams in the bottom half - they're a shadow of the team that we saw before Christmas. Mane did well these last two games thankfully, Salah didn't make any impact whatsoever and Bobby was dire. Rafa and Newcastle did us a massive favour and gave them a huge opportunity but of course they completely fucked it taking 2 points from a possible 6. Hard to watch.

awec

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Start Sturridge next game, Firmino needs a reminder like a horse.

I'd stick with Firmino and just pray that he finds some form soon. Salah too.

Fromvert

Super-Rush wrote: »

Jaysus some people have been drinking the lemonade already.

Bobby's useless.
Robbo is pants.
VVD isn't worth the price we paid.

Have a fcuking word with yourselves.

Did anyone actually say any of that? Or are you thinking someone saying Firmino was pants tonight (he was) to mean they think he is useless all the time?

Buddy97mm

Bad performance, again, without a doubt. But the doom and gloom is a bit excessive. We've played badly in last 3 games and got 5 out of 9 points, not the form of champions, but not disastrous considering how poorly we've played.

A point tonight is not a good return, but better than being beaten, which we've managed to avoid in 3 poor performances. Personally would be happy for City to go top on Wed, have all the doom merchants say they have the League in the bag. We are in the middle of a slump, was always going to happen over 38 games, but now need to respond and Bournemouth at weekend is perfect opportunity. Have supported Liverpool for 40+ years, no need for panic, this remains as good an opportunity as we have had for some time.

Hopefully see the much maligned Hendo (badly missed tonight) and Gini back. Think Keita did well tonight, after ropey first half, and that will stand to him. Need him further up pitch with 2 of Fab, Hendo and Gini behind him.

Blondie919

awec wrote: »

I'd stick with Firmino and just pray that he finds some form soon. Salah too.

Is this the same Salah that scored against Bournemouth (3 games ago) and twice against Palace (2 games ago)? You think Salah is off form?

hadepsx

The fu¢k was alisson at with West ham's goal, terrible positioning. Also lucky that his dodgy headed clearance only fell to Andy Carroll, otherwise could have conceded.

The Mig

Meltdown in full swing. Long way to go until May. Up the red men!

mikeym

Not ruthless enough.

Nights like tonight will cost Liverpool the league

rob316

Salah isn't off form it's just Klopp is shunting him around the pitch, totally different player in the 2nd half when he moved out wide.
Firmino on the other hand was only missing an own goal to cap a woeful performance. His touch and passing was just lazy and every attack broke down when he got the ball.

magma69

Fromvert wrote: »

Did anyone actually say any of that? Or are you thinking someone saying Firmino was pants tonight (he was) to mean they think he is useless all the time?

A common occurrence in this thread. Some will twist the words of any kind of criticism to make the poster seem unreasonable.

jpboard1

hadepsx wrote: »

The fu¢k was alisson at with West ham's goal, terrible positioning. Also lucky that his dodgy headed clearance only fell to Andy Carroll, otherwise could have conceded.

Alisson's positioning for the goal was good. It was inch perfect in off the post. He had the rest covered.

kingshankly

magma69 wrote: »

A common occurrence in this thread. Some will twist the words of any kind of criticism to make the poster seem unreasonable.

Exactly if ya say someone’s is playing crap they twist it to that you think he is crap if ya criticise Klopp they twist it to you want him sacked😪

Utopia Parkway

jpboard1 wrote: »

Alisson's positioning for the goal was good. It was inch perfect in off the post. He had the rest covered.

Yeah don't think he did much wrong for the goal. It went in off the inside of the post.

He did however have another dodgy kick. Seems like there's at least one every game now.

monkey9

Brutal tonight. I feared that performance and it happened. The only consolation was we got a point more than i feared we would.

More twists and turns to occur, we're in a title race folks. Enjoy it.

Charlie19

The keeper has been dodgy on a few occasions so far into his Liverpool career and I think he's made probably 3 or 4 bad clearances in the last two games but he's still by far a better keeper than those other two.


Thankfully his errors in the last two hasn't resulted in goals and just keep in mind what he does add to the team.