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Shanotheslayer

Is Lovren due back against Bournemouth?

yourdeadwright

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Is Lovren due back against Bournemouth?

Don't think so,
There has been no talk of him which leaves me to believe he won't be back for a while ,

Buddy97mm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Is Lovren due back against Bournemouth?

Seems unlikely, but does seem to be a decent enough chance that at least some of Trent/Hendo/Gini will be fit.

Chesty08

facehugger99 wrote: »

Because presumably this doesn't have a massive bearing on who wins the title :rolleyes:


This isn't Football Manager sunshine.

Exactly, so why do you think we should be competing with Arsenal and Spurs for 4th? Why not 2nd or 3rd?

Why Arsenal? Why not Man Utd or Chelsea?

Agent Coulson

I'm finding it harder and harder to distinguish between parody accounts wind up accounts and real accounts these days.



Conte lol



We all know it's the return of The Rodgers that's needed.

RollieFingers

Don't beat Bournemouth it's game over, but we will, nice solid 3-0 win hopefully.

The Good Ole Boys

the strenth of pace is key in this match hope mane can unleash. is vital

noodler

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Saturday is Huge anything but a win and I'd seriously worry about us ,

Every game for the last six months.

Riesen_Meal

The Good Ole Boys wrote: »

the strenth of pace is key in this match hope mane can unleash. is vital

Mane was great the other night goal aside I thought....

RFOLEY1990

Fieldog wrote: »

Mane was great the other night goal aside I thought....

been the only one stepping up in last two games imo

The Good Ole Boys

Fieldog wrote: »

Mane was great the other night goal aside I thought....

i agree. we need him to keep going and crush bournemouth

RFOLEY1990

Bournemouth will suit int he sense that they will come out and try and play a bit of ball,

crowd needs to be bouncing it's been flat and nervous over last couple of home games,

a lot of the fans have no real clue how to handle a title race

D'Agger

RFOLEY1990 wrote: »

a lot of the fans have no real clue how to handle a title race

Play the headspace app over the tannoy system at half time perhaps

murpho999

RollieFingers wrote: »

Don't beat Bournemouth it's game over, but we will, nice solid 3-0 win hopefully.

I think we'll win too but why would it be game over if we don't?

City to play Chelsea the next day and worst case scenario we'd be 3 points behind with a game in hand.

HandsomeBob

murpho999 wrote: »

I think we'll win too but why would it be game over if we don't?

City to play Chelsea the next day and worst case scenario we'd be 3 points behind with a game in hand.

I've been level headed about the last two results but I would deem Bournemouth as a critical must win if we want to keep pushing for the title. Gets to a point when 3 points will be the only thing that will serve us.

Agent Coulson

Are we the 3pm on Sky on Saturday?

ricero

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Are we the 3pm on Sky on Saturday?

No don't think so

Nerdlingr

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Are we the 3pm on Sky on Saturday?

more than likely get it on NBCSN

Tipsy McSwagger

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Are we the 3pm on Sky on Saturday?

No they are showing HUD v Ars

Tipsy McSwagger

I can see Chelsea getting at least a point on Sunday

Knex*

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

I can see Chelsea getting at least a point on Sunday

Wouldn't do it to yourself tbh.

facehugger99

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

I can see Chelsea getting at least a point on Sunday

Chelsea owe us a title from 2015.

i'm not accepting anything less than another 3 points from them.

BorneTobyWilde

We've lost 6 games in two seasons and people are saying Klopp needs replacing, it's crazy.
German fans sing constantly at 0-0 in tight important games, English fans sit in silence, in terror of what could happen. Hope crowd can play it's part Saturday.

HandsomeBob

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

I can see Chelsea getting at least a point on Sunday

Depends on if Hazard shows up and fancies it.

TitianGerm

https://www.football365.com/news/the-2018-19-premier-league-title-race-expose-the-fraud

A few in here could do with reading this.

Wheety

Saw a headline of Hargreaves saying Liverpool need to play with a smile again and I agree with him. Has looked so laboured in the last few games and the players aren't enjoying themselves.

I thought we would still play the same way as the last couple of seasons but with a better keeper and defender. I know it probably wasn't really sustainable to play like that but the desire to 'manage' a game this year seems to have really stifled the creative output. The amount of times a player receives the ball, doesn't attempt to turn on it, and instead just gives it back to the same player. This seems to be happening around the middle of the pitch, not near the opposition's box.

I know it's a fine balance but we seem to be more concerned about not conceding chances than we are of creating them ourselves. Allison hasn't been tested too much and we have the best defensive record in the league because of it. But look at Utd's form now. They're conceding plenty of chances and if it wasn't for De Gea they wouldn't be on this run, but they're creating plenty of chances too. I thought we bought Allison so when the defence are caught out, we might have a chance of not conceding. I think he's one of the keepers with the fewest shots faced in the league.

I think we need a bit more freedom as a team. The midfield doesn't help when Klopp's preferred choice seems to be Milner, Henderson and Wijnaldum. I think at least one of Keita (I know he hasn't been great) and Shaqiri should be starting every game. I also think we should go back to Salah on the right and Firmino up front. That's how the 3 played last year. With Keita or Shaqiri in an attacking midfield role.

Just want to point out that I do know we're doing better this year. But I'd love the team to be more exciting and confident again.

Nerdlingr

Think Klopp has to revert back to Salah on the wing and Bobby in the middle again.
As soon as Salah switched to the wing v west ham there was a marked improvement. He is soooo much better picking up the ball and running at the opposition. Immediately the fear factor goes up (and the excitement from the crowd too!!) Too often than not this year he's been shut down in games because of playing centrally.

Tomw86

facehugger99 wrote: »

Steven Gerrard owes us a title from 2015.

i'm not accepting anything less than another 3 points from them.

Fixed that for you

MD1990

MD1990 wrote: »

............ A few more smart signings in the summer & we will challenge again next year.

.... our year :pac:

RFOLEY1990 wrote: »

been the only one stepping up in last two games imo

Indeed, like the CL final once Salah went off.

Pepp1989

Nerdlingr wrote:

Think Klopp has to revert back to Salah on the wing and Bobby in the middle again. As soon as Salah switched to the wing v west ham there was a marked improvement. He is soooo much better picking up the ball and running at the opposition. Immediately the fear factor goes up (and the excitement from the crowd too!!) Too often than not this year he's been shut down in games because of playing centrally.

We need trent and salah down the right and Firmino pushed forward. If only to banish the memory of Bobby's performance from Monday night. Fab one of gini/hendo and keita in the middle.

Nerdlingr

Also we need someone who can take a set piece. Our delivery has been woeful of late.

8-10

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

We've lost 6 games in two seasons and people are saying Klopp needs replacing, it's crazy.

Conte had lost 3 games at this point of the season he won the title, and 15 games over the past 2 seasons in comparison....

Fromvert

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Also we need someone who can take a set piece. Our delivery has been woeful of late.

Without Trent or Shaq on we have Salah kicking corners in the knees and chest of the first man, it's frustrating to watch him do it multiple times a game and not being told to get away from the ball.

Harry Palmr

It's curious how teams forget how to play football, during a season - passing off, dead balls off, knowing when to step up off, pressing off and none of that really has anything to do with who is on the pitch.

Thud

Fromvert wrote: »

Without Trent or Shaq on we have Salah kicking corners in the knees and chest of the first man, it's frustrating to watch him do it multiple times a game and not being told to get away from the ball.

You'd also have to think he'd be the man to get a few goals from messed up corners if he was around the edge of the box

Fromvert

facehugger99 wrote: »

We should be scrapping with Spurs and Arsenal for 4th instead of duking it out with City for the title.

Not to mention in the latter stages of the CL.

What a season this has been. Maybe we end of losing, but it doesn't change the extradorinaiy job the manager and players have done thus far.

A result against Bournemouth and we're top with a dozen games left. I would never have believed I'd be posting that sentence back in August.

I'm going to try and enjoy this.

I'm enjoying nearly every minute of this year, annoyed when we drop points but that goes quickly when I take into account our overall position. Very few years we've had where we were actually considered contenders so if you can't enjoy this season you'll likely never enjoy it.

When the weekend roles around I'm looking forward to the game, many seasons at this stage we'd be nearly out of running for even a top 4 finish.
I'm watching a lot of City's games talking myself into them dropping points and enjoying that too and I'll be adding Spurs to that as they are in the race.

I'm confident we get the win on Saturday too.

ERG89

Fromvert wrote:

Without Trent or Shaq on we have Salah kicking corners in the knees and chest of the first man, it's frustrating to watch him do it multiple times a game and not being told to get away from the ball.

What's wrong with Milner taking them. Salah scored a goal from one for Egypt which is good for them but the first 2 he took the other night I'd have managed better.
I know he was getting abuse from fans but I'd be shocked if that wasn't a regular thing that just happened to be recorded & put on social media on Monday.

Not sure if this was posted but Salah ain't getting a call up for Egypt next month as they are already qualified for this summer's ACON.

Fromvert

Thud wrote: »

You'd also have to think he'd be the man to get a few goals from messed up corners if he was around the edge of the box

Exactly a quick, nimble, alert finisher, reacting first and getting a toe on the ball. He'd surely pick up a couple more goals.

Nerdlingr

Fromvert wrote: »

Without Trent or Shaq on we have Salah kicking corners in the knees and chest of the first man, it's frustrating to watch him do it multiple times a game and not being told to get away from the ball.

Shaq took the first few v Leicester and kept hitting the first man too. Milner took some recently and kept hitting the first man. And then as you Salah has a go and does the same. I'm always astounded how professional footballers on over 100k a week cannot kick a ball into the centre of the box/penalty spot. :mad::mad:

HandsomeBob

Pepp1989 wrote: »

We need trent and salah down the right and Firmino pushed forward. If only to banish the memory of Bobby's performance from Monday night. Fab one of gini/hendo and keita in the middle.

TBH for all my criticism of Keita I hope he does start again on Saturday because either way, people won't be able to avoid the subject any longer. Home against Bournemouth I'm expecting, even demand, that he bosses the game.

TitianGerm

HandsomeBob wrote: »

TBH for all my criticism of Keita I hope he does start again on Saturday because either way, people won't be able to avoid the subject any longer. Home against Bournemouth I'm expecting, even demand, that he bosses the game.

What makes you think you've any right to "demand" anything from a player

Fitz*

My opinion on the corners thing, we either hit the first man every time or else Salah does a really long kick to the back post.

This trend suggests to me that we are aiming to the near post on purpose, but just failing to beat the first man.

The Good Ole Boys

storrm is coming, red vortex of keita comes for the bournemouth

HandsomeBob

TitianGerm wrote: »

What makes you think you've any right to "demand" anything from a player

The same way any fan demands a certain level of performance from those in the starting XI.

yourdeadwright

FitzShane wrote: »

My opinion on the corners thing, we either hit the first man every time or else Salah does a really long kick to the back post.

This trend suggests to me that we are aiming to the near post on purpose, but just failing to beat the first man.

I wouldn't worry to much about it,
Every single teams fans give out about corners because you simply do not score from them very often at all no matter who you are, Look on any fans forum and people give out ,Basically everyone is bad at them because that just how it is its very difficult to score form a corner,

Also we have scored the most goals from set pieces this season in the whole Prem

Fromvert

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I wouldn't worry to much about it,
Every single teams fans give out about corners because you simply do not score from them very often at all no matter who you are, Look on any fans forum and people give out ,Basically everyone is bad at them because that just how it is its very difficult to score form a corner,

Also we have scored the most goals from set pieces this season in the whole Prem

We've won the second most corners so being around that position isn't a shock. What I'd like to see is on average how many corners it takes us to score a goal vs everyone else. That would give a better idea of who is good/bad at offensive corners. I've tried finding the stats but can't see it anywhere.

yourdeadwright

Fromvert wrote: »

We've won the second most corners so being around that position isn't a shock. What I'd like to see is on average how many corners it takes us to score a goal vs everyone else. That would give a better idea of who is good/bad at offensive corners. I've tried finding the stats but can't see it anywhere.

Don't forget we are a pretty small side to

noodler

My problem, or I guess the reason, I am not overly concerned about Keita (bar age of course) is that I can kinda see the ability.

And I think it's a rare enough ability to be able to drive forward from midfield like that.

Not every poster beginning with 'Y' will agree..

Crash Bang Wall

FitzShane wrote: »

My opinion on the corners thing, we either hit the first man every time or else Salah does a really long kick to the back post.

This trend suggests to me that we are aiming to the near post on purpose, but just failing to beat the first man.

I suspect its mainly front post, and arrive late like Mane did against West Ham.....although Fabianski saved in........looks like the best way for a smaller guy against a zone defence......ball has to be perfect though

mosstin

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

We've lost 6 games in two seasons and people are saying Klopp needs replacing, it's crazy.
German fans sing constantly at 0-0 in tight important games, English fans sit in silence, in terror of what could happen. Hope crowd can play it's part Saturday.

If the atmosphere is bad on Saturday, we can actually apportion plenty of the blame on this thread. Heading over in our droves we are. Sing your heart out for the lads. Plenty of time between now and then to learn 'Poor Scouser Tommy'.