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Best time to trim trees?

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  • 08-01-2019 8:52am
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    Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭


    I need to cut off some small, lower branches on trees because they're getting in the way of the lawnmower. Nothing big at all. I've seen different times of year on the internet so far. What would be the best time to cut them? Thanks in advance!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    I'm the same.nearly lost an eye and a rib last year with a fcukin apple tree.its getting its lower limbs cut this week when I get the time along with ten more of its buddies.
    This time of year is fine as far as I know cos they are dormant but even if not I'll get the bastid this week


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,384 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    I need to cut off some small, lower branches on trees because they're getting in the way of the lawnmower. Nothing big at all. I've seen different times of year on the internet so far. What would be the best time to cut them? Thanks in advance!

    what type of tree is it? i cut our trees sometimes this time of year, leylandii, copper beach and Japanese maple, this could be the worse thing in the world to do, but trees are still there


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,495 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    winter is generally the right time to trim trees, with a few exceptions (cherry, plum, etc - hard stone fruit trees).


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    what type of tree is it? i cut our trees sometimes this time of year, leylandii, copper beach and Japanese maple, this could be the worse thing in the world to do, but trees are still there

    A whole mixture, some of which I don't know. There's sycamore and ash anyway - they all look native.


  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭Accidentally


    A whole mixture, some of which I don't know. There's sycamore and ash anyway - they all look native.

    Perfect time of year for these two. Get it done soon, before the sap starts to rise.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    January is as good as it'll get for pruning branches.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    I have a tree at the front of the house which tends to block light into the front room in the evenings during the summer. It's around 4-5m tall currently and the trunk is ~10cm diameter, would it be okay to just cut this at around 2m? Or would I damage the tree irreparably?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Well you'd not kill it assuming it was done cleanly. Would reducing it to that height decapitate all the lateral branches? Would you be left with a stump?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,826 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    What kind of tree is it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Well you'd not kill it assuming it was done cleanly. Would reducing it to that height decapitate all the lateral branches? Would you be left with a stump?

    No, there are branches all the way to ~ 40cm from the base of the tree


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    New Home wrote: »
    What kind of tree is it?

    I don't know to be honest, I only moved into the house a few months ago


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,826 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Would you be able to post a photo of it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    New Home wrote: »
    Would you be able to post a photo of it?

    Yeah, will try to get one later on. It's deciduous and it's not ash, sycamore or oak. It could be birch or beech but I can't even remember what the leaves look like.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Here are a couple of pics


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,826 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Looks like a beech.

    I'd say such a big tree would suffer if you were to cut it like you say, but I can see it'd have no room in a front garden.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    New Home wrote: »
    Looks like a beech.

    I'd say such a big tree would suffer if you were to cut it like you say, but I can see it'd have no room in a front garden.

    Cheers. I guess I'm as well cutting it now as in 5 years time as it's not going to get any smaller!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I'd remove everything lower than 10 feet, take the laterals in and lop off one third of them - you'll notice they are clustered. This will certainly allow more light esp early/late as the sun sets.

    You really cannot "top" a mature deciduous tree and chopping it back to a few meters will create a mass of growths which will spread with vigorous growth pushing up and outwards.

    This gives you an idea

    Tree-Pruning-diagram.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    I'd remove everything lower than 10 feet, take the laterals in and lop off one third of them - you'll notice they are clustered. This will certainly allow more light esp early/late as the sun sets.

    You really cannot "top" a mature deciduous tree and chopping it back to a few meters will create a mass of growths which will spread with vigorous growth pushing up and outwards.

    This gives you an idea

    Tree-Pruning-diagram.jpg

    Okay, I'll give that a go so. Thanks for the help NH & HP


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,495 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    you *can* chop the tree as you mention (down to 2m), it's called pollarding, but the look quite likely will not appeal to you. it'd be slightly odd in a suburban garden.
    just be aware that a beech will grow to be a large tree, so if it's obtrusive now, it will continue to get more obtrusive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    As much as I hate seeing a tree go it might be best to take it out. Beech also have a habit of dropping branches, and some of those branches could easily grow to larger than the trunk currently is.
    I'm not sure on how the roots will interact with the wall/path either. No expert on beech.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    It's a rental house (owners living abroad) so while we have reasonable leeway in what we do with the garden, I'm not sure they'd be too happy with us chopping it down completely (although longer term that seems like what needs to happen)! I'm going to prune it as per the advice above and see how we fare out over the summer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Just a word on pollarding - apart from being ugly (IMO!) once you've done it the cropped result has to be maintained every year, if the sprouts are allowed to develop they'll weaken, then kill the tree.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,495 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    yep, and especially since the OP is a tenant, not an avenue i'd suggest s/he goes down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,694 ✭✭✭standardg60


    You just need to remove all the lower branches flush with the trunk as high as will let the light in underneath. This is called raising the canopy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    Just a word on pollarding - apart from being ugly (IMO!) once you've done it the cropped result has to be maintained every year, if the sprouts are allowed to develop they'll weaken, then kill the tree.

    When you say the sprouts will weaken and kill the tree, how do you mean? If you let anything grow from the stumps?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    monkeynuz wrote: »
    When you say the sprouts will weaken and kill the tree, how do you mean? If you let anything grow from the stumps?

    Yes, the right hand image in the picture above shows the growth pattern.

    Read this which explains it well

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.arboristnow.com/news/Pruning-Techniques-Pollarding-vs-Topping-a-Tree&ved=2ahUKEwj12oHT_vHfAhVUUBUIHTcnBUYQFjAZegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw1o1dtZGnptSgl9jD89sq8n


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    you *can* chop the tree as you mention (down to 2m), it's called pollarding, but the look quite likely will not appeal to you.


    +1


    Pollarding is the norm for trees in public spaces where I live - I think it looks desperate, like something from the Blair Witch Project :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz



    Unfortunately that’s an American website, so can’t be trusted.

    Pollarding for firewood was generally done every 10+ years, basket willow is generally coppiced.

    If pollarding weakens a tree how did I have a 400+ year old pollarded oak at my previous home?

    Also a lot of the French decorative pollarded willows are 100+ years old.

    Pollarding has its place but not on a beech tree in a front garden.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    From them photos I'm not convinced it's a beech tree.
    It looks as much like an Alder to me.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,495 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    the buds look more like beech than alder.


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