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Tokyo 2020 Qualifying. Athletes to watch

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    #152
    Dodge
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    Boston can’t be used for qualification times as it’s deemed a downhill marathon


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    #153
    browne_rob5
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    Dodge wrote: »
    Boston can’t be used for qualification times as it’s deemed a downhill marathon

    Top 10 in a major qualifies and it's on the list of approved courses so presumably sub 2.11.30 would work also.

    https://www.worldathletics.org/responsive/download/downloadresultinfo?filename=26bd97e3-e78e-4b99-8a5c-d640270d8c08.pdf&urlslug=Certified%20marathon%20and%20half%20marathon%20courses%20(4%20Sep%202019)


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    #154
    28064212
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    browne_rob5 wrote: »
    Top 10 in a major qualifies and it's on the list of approved courses so presumably sub 2.11.30 would work also.

    https://www.worldathletics.org/responsive/download/downloadresultinfo?filename=26bd97e3-e78e-4b99-8a5c-d640270d8c08.pdf&urlslug=Certified%20marathon%20and%20half%20marathon%20courses%20(4%20Sep%202019)
    Top 10 qualify all right, but times don't count: https://www.worldathletics.org/records/certified-roadevents
    Elevation drop – Performances achieved on courses with a drop in elevation between the start and the finish which exceeds 1:1000, i.e. 1m per km, are:
    not valid for:
    - Legal top lists
    - Entry standards
    - World records

    valid for:
    - World rankings (where a correction is made to the result score from which points are deducted depending on the drop)
    Boston's net downhill is approximately 3.2m/km

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    #155
    browne_rob5
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    28064212 wrote: »
    Top 10 qualify all right, but times don't count: https://www.worldathletics.org/records/certified-roadeventsBoston's net downhill is approximately 3.2m/km

    It is strange that he went for Boston as a backup then.


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    #156
    28064212
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    browne_rob5 wrote: »
    It is strange that he went for Boston as a backup then.
    Possibly he thought he had a realistic shot at top 10. Moot point now anyway

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    #157
    IvoryTower
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    Scullion is doing boston again!


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    #158
    jfh
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    IvoryTower wrote: »
    Scullion is doing Houston again!

    Is he not doing the new York half & Boston marathon?


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    #159
    IvoryTower
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    Sorry meant to say boston, edited there. Yeah he said he wasnt going to do it but it's back on. Says he'll improve better by racing a marathon before Olympics than doing shorter stuff.


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    #160
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    Kevin Seaward 2:10:10 in Zurich this morning.


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    #161
    Itziger
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    Exactly wrote: »
    Kevin Seaward 2:10:10 in Zurich this morning.

    Sevilla. It's called the Zurich Maraton de Sevilla (Sponsor)


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    #162
    IvoryTower
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    Is it looking like we could have too many qualifiers for marathon at this rate


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    #163
    Dodge
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    IvoryTower wrote: »
    Is it looking like we could have too many qualifiers for marathon at this rate

    Again.

    We have 3 now. Any more and there’ll have to be a selection. Hopefully lessons leavened from Rio


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    #164
    browne_rob5
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    IvoryTower wrote: »
    Is it looking like we could have too many qualifiers for marathon at this rate

    Who else can you see running the standard?


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    #165
    KSU
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    browne_rob5 wrote: »
    Who else can you see running the standard?

    Probably won’t get another opportunity but Hugh Armstrong just ran today in 2.12 and only fell off the last 2k. Has a very promising career ahead of him with it only being his 2nd marathon


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    #166
    KSU
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    Probably flew under the radar a little bit Michelle Finn ran a new PB 9.38 in Australia yesterday in steeple.

    She took the win in a C ranked Sydney classic which will go a long way in the rankings and puts her in a very good place for qualifying for Tokyo


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    #167
    IvoryTower
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    Isn't to tobin going for it? Mick Clohisey?


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    #168
    browne_rob5
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    IvoryTower wrote: »
    Isn't to tobin going for it? Mick Clohisey?

    Mick a dnf with Achilles injury today and would be amazed if Tobin did it on his debut so won't be either of them I think.


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    #169
    KSU
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    IvoryTower wrote: »
    Isn't to tobin going for it??

    Someone mentioned he was to debut but from what I have seen has been racing over shorter distances in Aus so cant see him racing marathon any time soon.


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    #170
    average_runner
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    Dodge wrote: »
    Again.

    We have 3 now. Any more and there’ll have to be a selection. Hopefully lessons leavened from Rio

    Scullion is an automatic selection due to heuston 5th place?


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    #171
    28064212
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    average_runner wrote: »
    Scullion is an automatic selection due to heuston 5th place?
    Automatically eligible, not a guaranteed pick. If more than 3 are eligible, it's up to the country's athletics authority to select the three.

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    #172
    28064212
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    Athletics Ireland's selection policy for Tokyo:
    4.5 The Nomination Panel has “sole discretion” to nominate to the Olympic Federation of Ireland the team members that meet with the eligibility and entry rules of the 2020 Olympic Games and as stipulated in this Nomination Policy. This includes nominations for relay teams, individuals and for instances when there are more than 3 athletes who have met the performance standard.
    4.5.1 The Nomination Panel may use their sole and overriding discretion to consider any factor or combination of factors that, in their opinion, are relevant to the nomination of an athlete, including, but not necessarily limited to the following general principles:
    A. Consistency and Repeatability of performances (in all or any events) during the qualification period, achieving the performance standard and showing current form and fitness
    B. Statistical data (ranking/performance list, performance-time curves, course ratings, altitude/wind adjustments)
    C. Championship performance history, in particular the history of the athlete’s on-demand performances at major championships
    D. The competitive head to head record of each athlete
    E. Injury and illness history
    4.6 Where there are more athletes that have achieved the nomination criteria in this policy beyond the maximum entry limit in any one event, the Nomination Panel will have sole discretion to decide which of the athlete(s) is to be nominated.
    They've given themselves a pretty free hand if there is a choice to be made. Which is a good thing

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    #173
    Ceepo
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    28064212 wrote: »
    Automatically eligible, not a guaranteed pick. If more than 3 are eligible, it's up to the country's athletics authority to select the three.

    And if someone else runs a QT it might put him down the pecking order simply because he wouldn't have a top 3 time..

    Not sure about the selection policy it that happens.

    Tobin is heading to Hamburg.


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    #174
    average_runner
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    Ceepo wrote: »
    And if someone else runs a QT it might put him down the pecking order simply because he wouldn't have a top 3 time..

    Not sure about the selection policy it that happens.

    Tobin is heading to Hamburg.

    I think scullion will go as he is the national champ also.

    If anyone else beats pollocks time it will be interesting.

    There is also the euro's this summer?


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    #175
    Down South
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    Is it also possible that World Athletics could give priority to time qualifications over place qualifications since it looks like more than 80 are going to meet qual time?


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    #176
    Chivito550
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    Delighted for the 3 lads regarding Olympic qualification, but as far as the actual times are concerned, I can't buy into the excitement. The Vaporflys have destroyed marathon running in my opinion.


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    #177
    IvoryTower
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    Would a top 10 in Boston be worth more for Scullion than getting the time? Seems even more odd choice now that a few people might hit the time and not him, even though you would be pretty sure he's more than capable, why not just go get the time...


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    #178
    average_runner
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    Down South wrote: »
    Is it also possible that World Athletics could give priority to time qualifications over place qualifications since it looks like more than 80 are going to meet qual time?

    I think the opposite actually.


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    #179
    28064212
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    IvoryTower wrote: »
    Would a top 10 in Boston be worth more for Scullion than getting the time? Seems even more odd choice now that a few people might hit the time and not him, even though you would be pretty sure he's more than capable, why not just go get the time...
    He's not doing Boston though, is he?

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    #180
    IvoryTower
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    28064212 wrote: »
    He's not doing Boston though, is he?

    Yep I believe so, I listen to the podcast dont think I missed any changes to plan


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    #181
    average_runner
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    IvoryTower wrote: »
    Yep I believe so, I listen to the podcast dont think I missed any changes to plan

    Yeah he is doing it. A half marathon next weekend also?


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