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Amazon deliveries being dumped in garden

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    #122
    7znbd9xmoiupye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭7znbd9xmoiupye


    massy086 wrote: »
    If you haven't signed for it you haven't received it....hmmmm just saying.
    i have seen one where the person w as not asked to sign but on looking up the site found their signature had been faked. they also claimed to the seller that they had attempted deliovery the previous day when they had not


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    #123
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'm more and more using local stores (unless massive price difference)
    Well said!


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    #124
    my3cents
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    marieholmfan wrote: »
    Well said!

    Said by a guy that shops in B&M? When did they have a presence here?


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    #125
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    my3cents wrote: »
    Said by a guy that shops in B&M? When did they have a presence here?

    Bricks & Mortar? ?


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    #126
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Kylie Unsightly Clip wrote: »
    Bricks & Mortar? ?

    Indeed


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    #127
    my3cents
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Indeed

    Why would the service levels have improved in B&M stores if you weren't referring to B&M stores.

    https://www.bmstores.co.uk/stores?


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    #128
    KOR101
    Registered Users Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    my3cents wrote: »
    Why would the service levels have improved in B&M stores if you weren't referring to B&M stores.

    https://www.bmstores.co.uk/stores?
    He's in exile.......indeed!


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    #129
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    my3cents wrote: »
    Why would the service levels have improved in B&M stores if you weren't referring to B&M stores.

    https://www.bmstores.co.uk/stores?






    Bricks And Mortar


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    #130
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 15,108 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    For sure B&M stores in the UK are places of good value.

    However we are conflating two unrelated issues here.
    It should not matter to the courier company what you bought or where their job is to deliver the parcel safely to the addressee.
    If they can't do that their business model needs to be re-evaluated.


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    #131
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,497 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Amazon Prime is not a service which should be for sale in Ireland. It is completely GB focused.

    Errr no its not.
    Prime delivery to Ireland is standard and priority at no extra cost, prime video content is available in Ireland, prime kindle content is available, exclusive prime items are available to Irish customers and prime cloud storage works too.

    To claim its completely GB focused means you don't know what you are talking about.


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    #132
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Cabaal wrote: »
    To claim its completely GB focused means you don't know what you are talking about.
    Emmm it is completely GB focused the seaníní and west britons of this Irish nation may take the leavings of John Bull but they only get the leavings.


    Anyway if you don't shop local you deserve anything you get.


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    #133
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 15,108 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    marieholmfan wrote: »
    Emmm it is completely GB focused the seaníní and west britons of this Irish nation may take the leavings of John Bull but they only get the leavings.


    Anyway if you don't shop local you deserve anything you get.

    While I agree with you that shop local is good for the local economy online shopping should not be punished by loss of goods paid for.


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    #134
    L1011
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    This discussion is completely irrelevant to the topic


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    #135
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    elperello wrote: »
    While I agree with you that shop local is good for the local economy online shopping should not be punished by loss of goods paid for.
    It has to be punished in some way.
    Amazon should be paying the true economic cost of the goods they sell; including the opportunity cost of jobs lost in Ireland and he cost of delivery to An Post (which is subsidised by the Irish state).
    Postmen should simply appropriate all online shopping.


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    #136
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    L1011 wrote: »
    This discussion is completely irrelevant to the topic
    On the contrary it is important to remind Bezos Bozos that they should keep their problems to themselves!


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    #137
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users Posts: 5,777 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    marieholmfan wrote: »
    It has to be punished in some way.
    Amazon should be paying the true economic cost of the goods they sell; including the opportunity cost of jobs lost in Ireland and he cost of delivery to An Post (which is subsidised by the Irish state).
    Postmen should simply appropriate all online shopping.

    As soon as you start paying the true economic cost of the tea and coffee you consume.


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    #138
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 69,013 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    marieholmfan wrote: »
    On the contrary it is important to remind Bezos Bozos that they should keep their problems to themselves!

    No, it's completely irrelevant. Do not post on this thread again


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    #139
    PhilOssophy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    marieholmfan wrote: »
    Emmm it is completely GB focused the seaníní and west britons of this Irish nation may take the leavings of John Bull but they only get the leavings.


    Anyway if you don't shop local you deserve anything you get.


    If I bought off a local online retailer would it be OK for it to be dumped in my garden?


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    #140
    PhilOssophy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    Another one dumped in the garden today, this time from the fine people at smartbuyglasses.ie via DPD.


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    #141
    Vic_08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,054 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    You can moan all you like about this but it is not going to change.

    Parcel deliveries are all about cheap, the drivers are under huge pressure to do quick first-time drops or face not making any money for their day's work.


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    #142
    KOR101
    Registered Users Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    You can moan all you like about this but it is not going to change.

    Parcel deliveries are all about cheap, the drivers are under huge pressure to do quick first-time drops or face not making any money for their day's work.
    Yes, it will change but the most likely change is that people will eventually have to buy a post box which is big enough for parcels. An Post already sell them.


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    #143
    Shelflife
    Registered Users Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    You can moan all you like about this but it is not going to change.

    Parcel deliveries are all about cheap, the drivers are under huge pressure to do quick first-time drops or face not making any money for their day's work.

    If you bid for a contract , you cant then decide that you wont fulfil the terms of that contract because you didnt cost it right.

    The contract is to deliver to the end user, not thow it over the garden wall and hope that it doesnt get damaged.

    If you dont complain then it will never be sorted.


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    #144
    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,993 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Shelflife wrote: »
    If you bid for a contract , you cant then decide that you wont fulfil the terms of that contract because you didnt cost it right.

    The contract is to deliver to the end user, not thow it over the garden wall and hope that it doesnt get damaged.

    If you dont complain then it will never be sorted.

    Then pay the true price for delivery. If you are paying less than €20 for a package to be courier delivered then the last person to handle it is getting less than minimum wage for the job, so pay peanuts and you get the monkey service.

    The thing is that people will complain about the bad deliveries but won't pay to give the drivers a decent wage, so the companies continue to work on their profits.


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    #145
    Vic_08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,054 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Shelflife wrote: »
    If you bid for a contract , you cant then decide that you wont fulfil the terms of that contract because you didnt cost it right.

    The contract is to deliver to the end user, not thow it over the garden wall and hope that it doesnt get damaged.

    If you dont complain then it will never be sorted.

    Companies bid for contracts and the lowest bidder wins. They then put the drivers, usually "self employed" under unfeasible timetables and horrible penalties such as no pay for returned parcels.

    The drivers are then in a position where they will be not only poorly paid but are in serious risk of not even covering their costs if they do not "deliver" everything at the first attempt.

    There is plenty of blame for this situation, the likes of Amazon are the biggest culprits, they are driving this race to the bottom both with contractors and their even worse policies in countries where they organise deliveries directly. Also to blame are customers expecting free delivery who give no consideration to them actually being at the delivery address when the parcel is due to be delivered. People look for the absolute cheapest price for goods and delivery but then expect a gold standard customer service with deliveries tailored to their whims.

    The guy delivering your parcel is likely to be getting less than a euro for the delivery of your parcel with no extra payment for returning to your gaff 3 times because you weren't in the first 2 times, how much extra effort would you give for a quid?


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    #146
    killanena
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭killanena


    An Post delivery drivers who deliver the majority of my packages from amazon are not under such contracts. To be fair its very rare my package is miss handled and when it has been it's always been sorted with a quick phone call to the local depo. I usually include my phone number with the address so delivery drivers can give me a buzz if need be and they have once or twice before.


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    #147
    my3cents
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    killanena wrote: »
    An Post delivery drivers who deliver the majority of my packages from amazon are not under such contracts. To be fair its very rare my package is miss handled and when it has been it's always been sorted with a quick phone call to the local depo. I usually include my phone number with the address so delivery drivers can give me a buzz if need be and they have once or twice before.

    Its actually the whole reason I pay for Prime most deliveries are with An Post and occasionally DPD. No more deliveries from the parcel loosers iParcel and their henchmen the parcel dumpers Fastway:D. Plus you don't have to wait for days to pick your item ready for dispatch.


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    #148
    irishgeo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,508 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Cant understand why someone hasn't invented a metal box with a code lock. Drill it to the wall. A one time pin code unlocks it for the delivery or you unlock it remotely with your phone when the driver arrives. Then you reopen it when you get home. A scanner could be used as proof of delivery for signature items.


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    #149
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,497 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    irishgeo wrote: »
    Cant understand why someone hasn't invented a metal box with a code lock. Drill it to the wall. A one time pin code unlocks it for the delivery or you unlock it remotely with your phone when the driver arrives. Then you reopen it when you get home. A scanner could be used as proof of delivery for signature items.

    That would require every carrier and sites like ebay, amazon etc to have the ability to provide a code and instructions to them.

    Not every carrier has this and even if they did the box would have to be massive to fit the most common sized parcels.


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    #150
    irishgeo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,508 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Cabaal wrote: »
    irishgeo wrote: »
    Cant understand why someone hasn't invented a metal box with a code lock. Drill it to the wall. A one time pin code unlocks it for the delivery or you unlock it remotely with your phone when the driver arrives. Then you reopen it when you get home. A scanner could be used as proof of delivery for signature items.

    That would require every carrier and sites like ebay, amazon etc to have the ability to provide a code and instructions to them.

    Not every carrier has this and even if they did the box would have to be massive to fit the most common sized parcels.
    You just give the driver the code over the phone. A large parcel motel size box should fit most things.


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    #151
    jester77
    Registered Users Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    When I order with their mobile app I have the option for when not at home, to pickup at couriers, to leave with neighbour, or to leave outside somewhere with a section to tell then where. I then get a notification with a picture of where they left it.


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