Jurors wanted for Coroners Court - 6 Feb 2019

daymobrew

Blanchardstown Gardai are looking for 6 people to sit on a Jury in the Coroners Court on the 6th of February 2019, to arrive at 9:30 am.

If any potential jurors are available, could they contact Sergeant Katrine White at <SNIP> that would be much appreciated.

Edit: If interested then please PM me and I'll pass on Sergeant White's email address to you.

tretorn

Do I get paid.??????

Will my car be safe in Blanchardstown.

emeldc

Is this not an odd way to look for jurors

ianob7

Also , is it a great idea to post the officers work email on here ??

dudara

@daymobrew - I have removed the email address for now. It would be good if you can verify the authenticity of this request.

iamwhoiam

Thats not how jurors are chosen .

daymobrew

I was given the okay by a Garda in Blanchardstown to post this. He contacted Riverwood Residents Association asking that we ask the residents to volunteer. We have been contacted before. One of the committee was a juror.

After confirming that I had permission I also posted it to the Riverwood RA Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/RiverwoodRes/posts/2957013570991344

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Thats not how jurors are chosen .

Coroners Court is different from a criminal trial.

tretorn wrote: »

Do I get paid.??????

Will my car be safe in Blanchardstown.

I believe that it is a volunteer thing. As far as I know the Coroners Court is in Store Street, close to Connolly Station/Busaras.

Gaspode

Well, we learn something new every day, I'd no idea that was how they chose jurors for the coroners court.

Larbre34

That must be a complete pain in the whole for Gardaí to organise. Just another waste of valuable time that needs to be civilianised sharpish.

begbysback

Who is there to judge in a coroners court?

Pat Dunne

begbysback wrote: »

Who is there to judge in a coroners court?

In short nobody. The Coroner or jury may make a general recommendation designed to prevent similar deaths, they do not decide whose fault it was or whether there was a criminal offence.
http://www.coroners.ie/en/cor/pages/inquests

AndrewJRenko

daymobrew wrote: »

As far as I know the Coroners Court is in Store Street, close to Connolly Station/Busaras.

They used to regularly knock into the Dept Social Protection round the corner and 'borrow' a few staff to make up the numbers as required.

I spent one afternoon in the Coroner's Court many years ago. I've no idea if my experience was typical, but it was a fairly awful experience, hearing the dreadful stories (several deaths by suicide on that occasion) and seeing the impact on the families.

So it's not for the feint hearted.

lurker2000

I did this once in Dun Laoire. Garda called into our office looking for volunteers as we were beside court. Lots of inquests that day, Dr Harbison took the stand also. One possible murder, alcohol related deaths, suicides and accidental deaths. It was very memorable and obviously very sad but I'm glad I did it and would do it again if I got the opportunity.

Fluorescence

I've done it twice, pretty standard for the Gardai involved in the case to ask around for volunteers. Usually just a day thing, unpaid, interesting experience but terribly depressing too. A jury is req in cases of death on a public road, or in the care of the state. I'd recommend it to anyone if you've the day free.

iamwhoiam

Fluorescence wrote: »

I've done it twice, pretty standard for the Gardai involved in the case to ask around for volunteers. Usually just a day thing, unpaid, interesting experience but terribly depressing too. A jury is req in cases of death on a public road, or in the care of the state. I'd recommend it to anyone if you've the day free.

Can I ask you what the point of the jury is in these cases ? If there a judgment made or is it just a case of verdict guided by a judge ?

daymobrew

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Can I ask you what the point of the jury is in these cases ? If there a judgment made or is it just a case of verdict guided by a judge ?

I think that Pat Dunne's reply explains it a bit:

Pat Dunne wrote: »

The Coroner or jury may make a general recommendation designed to prevent similar deaths, they do not decide whose fault it was or whether there was a criminal offence.
http://www.coroners.ie/en/cor/pages/inquests

I know that when the residents association committee member did it he made some recommendations to improve workplace safety (He didn't specify the details).

iamwhoiam

daymobrew wrote: »

I think that Pat Dunne's reply explains it a bit:

I know that when the residents association committee member did it he made some recommendations to improve workplace safety (He didn't specify the details).

Thank you

Fluorescence

Aye Pat Dunne's pretty much covered it. We were there to officially determine cause of death, and any circumstances that may have lead to it. The jury does not appartion blame. For one case, we made suggestions as to how to prevent such an incident from occuring again

AndrewJRenko

I don't think it's a great idea to have lay jurors making recommendations like this. I've seen some recommendations for stuff like bike helmets and hi-vis that show no depth of understanding of the complexity of issues involved.

Tzardine

Have done it. As others said it can be pretty grim. I had to listen to one case where a young girl took a ride in the back of a van. The van crashed and she died obviously. Had to listen to family members talk about the impact.

Also had a case where a guy walked in front of a taxi and was killed.

Would not do it again in a hurry.