"Irish" tourists dump rubbish on NZ beach, threaten locals

El_Bee

The NZ people need to learn to be more like the Irish and look at their feet and pretend to not notice this kind of behaviour, then have a grumble about it afterwards.

Beechwoodspark

Deport them to some rock off the coast of Antarctica.

DEFTLEFTHAND

El_Bee wrote: »

The NZ people need to learn to be more like the Irish and look at their feet and pretend to not notice this kind of behaviour, then have a grumble about it afterwards.

Kiwis in general just aren't like that though, if they have a problem with you they will address it in a direct manner.

It's a different culture entirely to here.

Mad_maxx

onrail wrote: »

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190605


Auckland Mayor: "They're worse than Pigs and I'd like to see them out of our country"

Well said - Fair play to the man

Just imagine if an elected official said the same here?

ChikiChiki

1874 wrote: »

probably moved on from Aus after their business model was discovered, new victims surely couldn't believe people would behave this way, they probably don't know how to deal with it at all, Id suggest they boot then out of the country, but I'd probably be slated for being racist against them somehow and their culture.

Same group??

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/crime-and-justice/irish-group-wanted-over-more-alleged-scams/news-story/505ce5d5dd6fccb6a431e087953ee075

NasserShammaz

Please please please please please send them to the Philippines and they can meet President duarte

Kivaro

NasserShammaz wrote: »

Please please please please please send them to the Philippines and they can meet President duarte

Funny, imagine them trying to explain their 'rights' to Duarte.

Why is anyone surprised that this is the behaviour of Travellers when they are abroad? They are allowed to get away with it in Ireland, so when they 'travel' outside the country they believe that their tradition of thievery, mayhem, and general scumbaggery will be accepted by their hosts.
Question: Why are they allowed to get away with it in Ireland?

Wheres Me Jumper?

Gravelly wrote: »

Won the title with Chelsea if memory serves.

definitely knackers so...

MonkieSocks

CosmicJay wrote: »

Paa Connors stole my mint 6 speed Raleigh back in 2008.

I want my bike back Paa. Paa give me back my bike.

topper75 wrote: »

True Detective: Season 4, starring Brendan Gleeson and Colm Meaney.

And Margaret €ash as the Bike

archer22

NasserShammaz wrote: »

Please please please please please send them to the Philippines and they can meet President duarte

https://www.philippineslifestyle.com/rude-foreigners-deported-2018/

NasserShammaz

archer22 wrote: »

https://www.philippineslifestyle.com/rude-foreigners-deported-2018/

Jaysus they wouldn't make it out of the airport

archer22

NasserShammaz wrote: »

Jaysus they wouldn't make it out of the airport

And if they did they wouldn't fare too well in the shops or McDonalds either..every one of them has a guard toting a Revolver or Shotgun there.

NasserShammaz

Lets go fund them a holiday in the Philippines tell them theres a **** load of roofin needs doing after the typhoon 😂🀣😂🀣😂🀣😂🀣😉

Paddy Cow

NasserShammaz wrote: »

Jaysus they wouldn't make it out of the airport

They wouldn't make it off the plane!

tomoliver

have the travelers got worse since they got their new rights recently?



certainly seems to be the case

theres some pubs and town nearly closed off in spain too recently in the news

Mrs OBumble

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Same group??

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/crime-and-justice/irish-group-wanted-over-more-alleged-scams/news-story/505ce5d5dd6fccb6a431e087953ee075

Pics look different, those women are skinnier and dark haired.

But I'd say that all Irish people can expect a harder time from Immigration in both Oz and NZ from now on, being asked to prove you've got adequate funds for the stay etc.

Ye all sound the same to them.

selous

BrokenArrows wrote: »

Since they have their own ethnicity now i wouldnt be surprised if countries start rejecting travel visas because of this.

Don't you mean "traveller" visas...:D:D:D

Amalgam

Oddly, air quotes are being used around the word Irish and/or Tourist in media outlets, don't bash the OP for that.

This, sadly, is getting a lot of traction locally, in NZ.

Sonic Youth

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Pics look different, those women are skinnier and dark haired.

But I'd say that all Irish people can expect a harder time from Immigration in both Oz and NZ from now on, being asked to prove you've got adequate funds for the stay etc.

Ye all sound the same to them.

Good. The travellers and other low class Irish types should be kept out.

TCM

Working class heroes wrote:

And there was me thinking you were going to make your points respectfully. But no. A vile racist you are. Sleep well.

Ah now, in fairness he has a point.

4Ad

supermouse wrote: »

4Ad wrote: »

As if the flight wasn't long enough without having to put up with that crap..

And.. I had food poisoning. I don't know which was worse....

God Bless you, some journey from hell !

wyndhurst

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190622

NIMAN

So is the mayor of Auckland a racist?

IMHO, he got it spot on.
Pity people back here can't say it like it is.

supermouse

Working class heroes wrote: »

Fair enough so. I just find it hard to believe a “big fight” broke out on a flight and it wasn’t diverted to the nearest airport to have them checked off.

I assure you, I am not lying.

By fight I meant verbal, not physical. Although at one point he did snatch the child from her hands quite roughly.

Instead of calling me a liar perhaps ask me to clarify should you have any doubt?

ArrBee

One of them is a cash...
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/109952990/member-of-rude-travelling-family-to-appear-in-court-on-theft-charges

Kevin Finnerty

wyndhurst wrote: »

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190622

Looks like their MO travels worldwide too, start slinging harrassment accusations when confronted.

Irish Guitarist

Markcheese wrote: »

Honestly, if you don't want to be viewed as a racist, replace the word traveler with scumbag.. I dont think you be called out for scumbagist,
And scumbags come from all races and creeds..

Well they were travellers. And I was being facetious. In reality I couldn't give a shite if someone thinks telling the truth about a group of people who are the same race as me is racist.

Markcheese

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Well they were travellers. And I was being facetious. In reality I couldn't give a shite if someone thinks telling the truth about a group of people who are the same race as me is racist.

Fair enough, turns out most of them are claiming to be English (thankfully), and it's alright to hate them.. Everyone hates the pommes....

blackbox

Boom_Bap wrote: »

You got to respect the set of stones on that youngfella.

Respect?

If my son was as rude, disrespectful and aggressive towards anyone, never mind a complete stranger, I'd feel that I had failed him as a parent.

What possible future can a child have when he is allowed (or taught) to behave like this?

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

One little traveller child hacked up a load of spit into his mouth and attempted to spit it at me as I walked past him sitting in a trolley in dunnes. He couldn’t have been more than 4. I stood and stared right at him and he started to deflate his cheeks and smile at me.

They have understanding of consequences. If the child had spat that evening wtf could I have done about it anyway? Approach his parents? They couldn’t give less of a fuk that their kids were running riot.

They’re used to doing what they like, taking what they like, without there being any repercussions. I would say they can’t believe the uproar from NZ, when that behaviour is just pardoned over here.

Mad_maxx

Kate Wide Packer wrote: »

One little traveller child hacked up a load of spit into his mouth and attempted to spit it at me as I walked past him sitting in a trolley in dunnes. He couldn’t have been more than 4. I stood and stared right at him and he started to deflate his cheeks and smile at me.

They have understanding of consequences. If the child had spat that evening wtf could I have done about it anyway? Approach his parents? They couldn’t give less of a fuk that their kids were running riot.

They’re used to doing what they like, taking what they like, without there being any repercussions. I would say they can’t believe the uproar from NZ, when that behaviour is just pardoned over here.

That's the difference between a country where a minimum standard of behaviour is expected and this place where due to the Tyrany of political correctness, your behaviour and actions are assessed based on whether you are officially vulnerable or not

It's stories like this which lay bare just what happened a few months ago with casey collecting near a quarter of votes, the official Ireland and media narative surrounding travellers is an insidious rotten lie and its doing great harm

pah

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/sindy-joyce-is-first-traveller-to-graduate-with-a-phd-in-ireland-1.3759198

What an achievement for this woman, I hope more travellers reach these heights of higher education.


However, one would hope that attaining such an educational milestone would allow some objectivity and understanding on how and why the world views travellers in such a way.

She also found there is a “institutionalised stereotype” of Travellers embedded in the settled community, which is mostly negative-based.

I don't think anyone needs a Phd to understand why negative traveller stereotypes exist.

saintsaltynuts

ArrBee wrote: »

One of them is a cash...
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/109952990/member-of-rude-travelling-family-to-appear-in-court-on-theft-charges

Surprise,Surprise.

gozunda

saintsaltynuts wrote: »

Surprise,Surprise.

From that link

She must pay up $55.20 for the Red Bull, sunglasses and rope she stole from the Caltex at Albany - on December 31 and January 4 - by 4pm. Cash arrived in the country on November 29 on a six-month travelling visa...

Cash returned to the same Caltex Store on January 3 with her children. She walked around the store and concealed a four pack of Red Bull cans, wire rope and a pair of Zephyr sunglasses before leaving the store without paying.

A number of things - the 6 month travelling visa and the multiple thefts of rope/ wire rope (oops I nearly wrote 'purchases') . What exactly were they planning to get up to during their time there? The 'family' are also claiming to be British passport holders. I'm sure the British will be delighted ...

Gravelly

gozunda wrote: »

From that link




A number of things - the 6 month travelling visa and the multiple thefts of rope/ wire rope (oops I nearly wrote 'purchases') . What exactly were they planning to get up to during their time there? The 'family' are also claiming to be British passport holders. I'm sure the British will be delighted ...

Did she steal Red Bull, sunglasses and wire rope twice or is that the same incident?

If she robbed those exact things twice, it's just weird - wire rope?!

gozunda

Gravelly wrote: »

Did she steal Red Bull, sunglasses and wire rope twice or is that the same incident?

If she robbed those exact things twice, it's just weird - wire rope?!

Edit:

Not sure if two seperate incidents. The mind boggles tbh ...

Gravelly

gozunda wrote: »

No I think two seperate incidents. The mind boggles tbh ...

I'm trying to think of some McGyver-like use for those three items but I'm drawing a blank.

McMurphy

Listened to this on NT earlier, apparently they're from Liverpool.

Multiple accusations of theft , including refusing to pay several restaurant bills and shoplifting.

I think the N.Z speokesperson said a high ranking official publicly described them as "arseholes".

Seems the littering was the straw that broke the camel's back, and they could be facing deportation.

Gotta admire the Kiwi's.

No messing over there.

Whatever about the thieving allegations, the fact that they seem to deem it acceptable to mess with the environment shows they have a lack of common respect and decency, and are quite rightly being reprimanded for it.

Gravelly

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Listened to this on NT earlier, apparently they're from Liverpool.

Multiple accusations of theft , including refusing to pay several restaurant bills and shoplifting.

I think the N.Z speokesperson said a high ranking official publicly described them as "arseholes".

Seems the littering was the straw that broke the camel's back, and they could be facing deportation.

Gotta admire the Kiwi's.

No messing over there.

Whatever about the thieving allegations, the fact that they seem to deem it acceptable to mess with the environment shows they have a lack of common respect and decency, and are quite rightly being reprimanded for it.

It's remarkable that they would do all of those things over here, on a daily basis, without any repercussions. In fact any attempt to pull them up on that behaviour here would be denounced as racism.

gozunda

Gravelly wrote: »

I'm trying to think of some McGyver-like use for those three items but I'm drawing a blank.

Reread the article and I'm not sure tbh. Also the bit about that lady in question who "appeared in front of (the court) and was stood down for an application for urgent legal aid to be lodged."

They can afford to go on holiday for six months but were applying for legal aid?

Gravelly

gozunda wrote: »

They can afford to go on holiday for six months but were applying for legal aid?

And they're not exactly back-packing - they appear to have rented at least two vehicles from the reports I've read, and have travelled extensively. Plus there's the grandfather who is "the 10th richest man in England" - surely he can chip in.

Buford T Justice

gozunda wrote: »

Reread the article and I'm not sure tbh. Also the bit about that lady in question who "appeared in front of (the court) and was stood down for an application for urgent legal aid to be lodged."

They can afford to go on holiday for six months but were applying for legal aid?

His father is "one of the richest men in England", the could afford to travel to NZ, and they need to shoplift and free legal aid?

Not sure what to say about that really, dare I say it I'll offend someone

topper75

All this raises the big obvious question - why the excessive tolerance here in Ireland? Do we owe these people something? Are they special?

We TALK about being a republic, but ... then again some African ****holes like to title themselves 'Democratic' and it is usually a strong indicator that they are not.

TheQuietFella

I knew a little Austrian....:rolleyes:

Gravelly

topper75 wrote: »

All this raises the big obvious question - why the excessive tolerance here in Ireland? Do we owe these people something? Are they special?

We TALK about being a republic, but ... then again some African ****holes like to title themselves 'Democratic' and it is usually a strong indicator that they are not.

A combination of long-term labour/leftist control of academia and media, combined with the Irish reluctance to challenge the status quo (we've effectively had the same government almost since the foundation of the state).

Mad_maxx

topper75 wrote: »

All this raises the big obvious question - why the excessive tolerance here in Ireland? Do we owe these people something? Are they special?

We TALK about being a republic, but ... then again some African ****holes like to title themselves 'Democratic' and it is usually a strong indicator that they are not.

Hopefully people realise soon that Ireland is a left wing country in the extreme

whisky_galore

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Hopefully people realise soon that Ireland is a left wing country in the extreme

Until people complain about the housing crisis then it's a 'right wing capitalist' one...:rolleyes:

1874

I hope that this thread is noticed in NZ,
Its pretty despicable what those people did there, but goes to show how bad it is here, that these things are tolerated and even defended.
Time for the traveller community to be held to account for their actions, along with rights comes responsibility. That applies to everyone, but you'd think travellers would have more reason to want to help break down alleged stereotypes, instead they create and reinforce them.

Gravelly

1874 wrote: »

I hope that this thread is noticed in NZ,
Its pretty despicable what those people did there, but goes to show how bad it is here, that these things are tolerated and even defended.
Time for the traveller community to be held to account for their actions, along with rights comes responsibility. That applies to everyone, but you'd think travellers would have more reason to want to help break down alleged stereotypes, instead they create and reinforce them.

They don't give an absolute shïte. Listen to John Connors - travellers have absolutely no shame about how they behave, and actually think civilised society is some kind of wimpy cop-out, and that they are the "real men".
There was a poster on the Margaret Cash thread, presumably a traveller, who said as much as well.
The see us as a soft touch to be leeched upon, and they are facilitated in this by their taxpayer-funded quangos, the media, and government.

BrokenArrows

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Listened to this on NT earlier, apparently they're from Liverpool.

Multiple accusations of theft , including refusing to pay several restaurant bills and shoplifting.

I think the N.Z speokesperson said a high ranking official publicly described them as "arseholes".

Seems the littering was the straw that broke the camel's back, and they could be facing deportation.

Gotta admire the Kiwi's.

No messing over there.

Whatever about the thieving allegations, the fact that they seem to deem it acceptable to mess with the environment shows they have a lack of common respect and decency, and are quite rightly being reprimanded for it.

There should be a zero tolerance policy on tourists in any country. Any law breaking and kick them out of the country.

Shoplifting should be an immediate deportation.