Is Ireland committing genocide?

realitykeeper

The Tetrarch wrote: »

You are not correct.

I disagree.

The Tetrarch

In 1653 Cromwell gave the northwest free people.
He would have given you canals, railways, motorways but they weren't invented then.

realitykeeper

The Tetrarch wrote: »

In 1653 Cromwell gave the northwest free people.
He would have given you canals, railways, motorways but they weren't invented then.

What do you mean? Are there old bridges in Donegal built by Cromwell, if so which ones? The free people bit also needs some explaining.

loveall

Was wondering where Anna Kavanagh had gone.

ohnonotgmail

realitykeeper wrote: »

Am I not correct?

Have you EVER been correct?

donegal_man

realitykeeper wrote: »

That may actually be the motive. They might be trying to turn the place into a national park.

Garth Ennis, an unhailed prophet

stoneill

realitykeeper wrote: »

Genocide and population growth can co-exist so no I am not wrong, you are.

No Ireland is not committing genocide.
Lack of investment, destruction of rural infrastructure is happening, but not genocide.
No genocide and a decrease in population can co-exist.

retalivity

Letterkenny has pramerica, optum, zeus and sita to name but a few multinational companies situated there. Pramerica alone has 1500 employees, majoriry of which live all over donegal and commute or wfh daily.
More can be done, definitely, to de-centralize jobs and opportunities from dublin and leinster, but dont pain tit to be some barren economic wasteland when thats far from the truth

Sonics2k

realitykeeper wrote: »

There is a terrible truth about Ireland 2040. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkl1xGTt9Sw

I didn't even have to click on the link and I knew it would be Stefan. Some amount of ****e coming out of him lately.

rossie1977

There are train stations in Boyle, Castlerea, Roscommon town and Carrick on Shannon (Roscommon side). Train station a mile of so from river Shannon in Athlone and one a mile or 2 from Roscommon border in Ballinasloe.

M6 runs through Roscommon from Ballinasloe to Athlone.

From yesterday's paper:

Quote:
Councillors' sadness at large number of young people leaving Donegal
RETURNING EMIGRANTS FACE HUGE DIFFICULTIES ACCORDING TO COUNCILLORS

Councillors from the Glenties Municipal District have expressed their concern at the number of young people who have left their communities during the first two weeks in January.

The issue came to the fore during a discussion on ‘Returning Emigrants’ which was placed on the Municipal District Agenda by Sinn Féin Councillor Marie Therese Gallagher.

Cllr Gallagher said: “It is unbelievable the number of people who have left west Donegal in the past month. It’s frightening,” she said.

Link

Quote:
A Donegal TD is warning that small businesses will close and rural areas will be empty if the government doesn’t step in.

Deputy Thomas Pringle was speaking in the Dail where he challenged the Taoiseach to outline his plan to curb depopulation and increase local trade.

A recent survey conducted by Deputy Pringle revealed local businesses in Donegal are concerned about depopulation and the threatened closures of garda stations and post offices.

Deputy Pringle says unless the government deals with the issue, things will get worse
Link

On the subject of immigration, especially into rural Ireland, 20 years ago I had a drink with 3 guys in a pub in the NW. 2 were from Algeria and the other guy was an Iraqi. The Algerians were fleeing the civil war, which by then had claimed 90,000 lives. They thought Irelandf was quiet and the people were nice to them, but there was nothing to do.

I saw a video made recently on youtube where a group of migrants were interviewed in a hotel lobby in Balahidreen. They all said the same thing, there was nothing to do.

Hermy

realitykeeper wrote: »

Once upon a time, Ireland was densely populated. Then we had the famine and the population in rural Ireland has been declining ever sinse...

The real issue is the incorrect spelling of the word since in the first line of opening post.
Until this has been dealt with the spurious claim of genocide cannot be addressed in any meaningful way.

Dakota Dan

Dial Hard wrote: »

I'm not sure you understand what genocide is.

First thought that went through my mind.

indioblack

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Evidence for deliberate depopulation in Ireland? (Not that you would ever provide any)

What you describe is not genocide, The Nazis killing 6 million jews, that was genocide.

Presumably the word was inserted into the OP to catch people's attention. If so, it's an unfortunate choice - and has detracted from the topic the op wants to discuss. Just finished an account of Mathausen by a survivor. Hard reading.

Odhinn

realitykeeper wrote: »

Once upon a time, (............)to report this genocide to.

All that blather just to get that stefan molyneaux video in.



Tell me, do you have feelings for him?

James Brown

The hidden Culchie genocide is it? Alas one sniff of city living and they're away to run the government or become a landlord, pub or housing
I worked with a lad who owned a farm. It should be noted, I've never worked on a farm. He had a lad he paid to manage it while he worked in another field in Dublin. He'd often get text alerts from others regarding the Garda dipping fuel from cars and that.

Atoms for Peace

The problem with this country is not enough genocide.

Snickers Man

realitykeeper wrote: »

Once upon a time, Ireland was densely populated. Then we had the famine and the population in rural Ireland has been declining ever sinse.

Not to hard to find population statistics if you go looking.

Here is the population of the territory now comprising the Irish Republic from censuses taken over the last 175 years.

Year Population (in millions rounded to one decimal place)
1841 6.5
1851 5.1
1861 4.4
1871 4.1
1881 3.9
1891 3.5
1901 3.2
1911 3.1
1926 3.0
1936 3.0
1946 3.0
1951 3.0
1956 2.9
1961 2.8
1966 2.9
1971 3.0
1981 3.4
1986 3.5
1991 3.5
1996 3.6
2002 3.9
2006 4.2
2011 4.6
2016 4.8
(Source www.cso.ie Central Statistics Office)

So although still nowhere near where it was in 1841, the population of the country as a whole has grown by nearly 70% in 55 years between 1961 and 2016.

Genocide, you say?

wingsof daun

The sheeple dont know or care to look at, the definition of genocide as laid out by the United Nations. It does not include only deliberate killing of the group. See parts a to e. Due to white guilt brainwash many dont consider a genocide of white people a crime at all. If there is a report of a genocide, real or propaganda, on the other side of the world, their is a false moral outcry backed up by the mainstream media, no doubt

Twenty Grand

wingsof daun wrote: »

The sheeple dont know or care to look at, the definition of genocide as laid out by the United Nations. It does not include only deliberate killing of the group. See parts a to e. Due to white guilt brainwash many dont consider a genocide of white people a crime at all. If there is a report of a genocide, real or propaganda, on the other side of the world, their is a false moral outcry backed up by the mainstream media, no doubt

What a load of sh*te.

PopePalpatine

wingsof daun wrote: »

The sheeple dont know or care to look at, the definition of genocide as laid out by the United Nations. It does not include only deliberate killing of the group. See parts a to e. Due to white guilt brainwash many dont consider a genocide of white people a crime at all. If there is a report of a genocide, real or propaganda, on the other side of the world, their is a false moral outcry backed up by the mainstream media, no doubt

Aw, did Mammy get you a Gillette shaving kit for Xmas?

uck51js9zml2yt

What would companies want to go to the north west for? There's nothing there for them.

As someone just home from 18 months investigating war crimes in a country that was victim to another countrys attempted genocide, I find this thread disgusting.

Ipso

wingsof daun wrote: »

The sheeple dont know or care to look at, the definition of genocide as laid out by the United Nations. It does not include only deliberate killing of the group. See parts a to e. Due to white guilt brainwash many dont consider a genocide of white people a crime at all. If there is a report of a genocide, real or propaganda, on the other side of the world, their is a false moral outcry backed up by the mainstream media, no doubt

Listening to the big boys on infowars again.

wingsof daun

Twenty Grand wrote: »

What a load of sh*te.

D. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group - abortion was fully endorsed by mainstream media in European countries and USA, the countries where white ppl live.
C. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about it's destruction in whole OR IN PART - by higher birth rates of other races (Muslims obviously) and lack of abortions and constant immigration, whites must become a minority group and they do not even live in majority Muslim areas.Whites even move out from black areas in USA. See "white flight", do you not believe this happened?! Look into it. There will be large areas where white people will move out from and already have in USA, Britian and Germany, for example. There is also the fact that interracial couples cannot have children who are whites and a percentage of the population will cross racial boundaries, who are mixed and may be some shade of brown or look asian etc. It eventually DESTROYS all the races after many generations. Humanity becomes a mixed brown colour. That is not fiction and that is also a crime. Every race is important

_Brian

realitykeeper wrote: »

Once upon a time, Ireland was densely populated. Then we had the famine and the population in rural Ireland has been declining ever sinse. The reason for this decline is lack of investment. There are no rail services, motorways, broadband or gas pipelines providing subsidized gas to industry in Roscommon or Donegal. The electricty grid is inadequate for large scale industrialization, so is the institutional support necessary to cater for new industry. Because there is no investment in infrastructure in the north west, there is no infrasturcture in the north west. There is no adequate national planning and zoning for rural areas. This inadequacy seems to be a deliberate policy to provide corrupt officials with opportunities in exploitation.

Consequently there is nothing in the north west to recommend it to IDA backed companies for example. So the north west does not get promoted and it does not get big companies setting up, bringing thousands of jobs in direct employment and thousands more providing spin off support services to multinationals and their workforces. These worforces could be made up of thousands upon thousands of Donegal and Roscommon returning emigrants and their new familes.

Instead, Donegal and Roscommon get nothing but the sadness of seeing the last of their loved ones leave and the last village shop close its doors. This is genocide and replacing Donegal and Roscommon people with economic migrants from places other than Donegal and Roscommon in former hotels does not alter this fact.

Am I not correct?

I wonder if there is a Brics version of amnesty international to report this genocide to.

Drive through rural France or Germany and you’ll see it’s the standard development of western countries.
I’m from amd live in rural Ireland, for years I thought as you that more and more
Money should be poured in, but truth is it should just be let develop. Agriculture requires less labour, industry needs workers and they will be found in urban areas so it makes sense to base industrial areas there.

Donegal and Roscommon need to develop more tourist centric infrastructure.

dxhound2005

wingsof daun wrote: »

D. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group - abortion was fully endorsed by mainstream media in European countries and USA, the countries where white ppl live.
C. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about it's destruction in whole OR IN PART - by higher birth rates and lack of abortions and constant immigration, whites must become a minority group and they do not even live in majority Muslim areas. There will be large areas where white people will move out from and already have in Germany, for example. There is also the fact that interracial couples cannot have children who are whites and a percentage of the population will cross racial boundaries, who are mixed and may be some shade of brown or look asian etc.

Look at the crowd in Croke Park whenever Donegal or Roscommon are playing. You won't find much evidence for any of that.

wingsof daun

bubblypop wrote: »

As someone just home from 18 months investigating war crimes in a country that was victim to another countrys attempted genocide, I find this thread disgusting.

Palestine? There is a genocide ongoing for decades there. As for Africa, they are always at war with one another not helped by constant western aid creating a surge in birthrates, and, hence, population. Tensions happen due to the rising poverty and over crowding that our aid has actually contributed to!

Odhinn

wingsof daun wrote: »

D. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group - abortion was fully endorsed by mainstream media in European countries and USA, the countries where white ppl live.
C. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about it's destruction in whole OR IN PART - by higher birth rates and lack of abortions and constant immigration, whites must become a minority group and they do not even live in majority Muslim areas. There will be large areas where white people will move out from and already have in Germany, for example. There is also the fact that interracial couples cannot have children who are whites and a percentage of the population will cross racial boundaries, who are mixed and may be some shade of brown or look asian etc.

The horror, the horror.

Collie D

wingsof daun wrote: »

D. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group - abortion was fully endorsed by mainstream media in European countries and USA, the countries where white ppl live.
C. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about it's destruction in whole OR IN PART - by higher birth rates and lack of abortions and constant immigration, whites must become a minority group and they do not even live in majority Muslim areas. There will be large areas where white people will move out from and already have in Germany, for example. There is also the fact that interracial couples cannot have children who are whites and a percentage of the population will cross racial boundaries, who are mixed and may be some shade of brown or look asian etc.

There should be some kind of award for posting the most incredibly insane post in After Hours because over the years there has been stiff competition but two genuine contenders today in one thread.

Others may mock you both but I say bravo.

retalivity

Asa Salmon Letter wrote: »

What would companies want to go to the north west for? There's nothing there for them.

Cheaper costs?
A skilled workforce?
Better quality of life?
And contoversially...Grants?

Im from the nw, but living and working in dublin. I'd move back tomorrow (and id have an IT job to go back to) if i could persuade the wife.

Oink

You keep using that word something something princess bride I don’t know look up the quote yourself.

Zaph

What has the OP got against Sligo and Leitrim? Have they already been fully genocided and there's no hope for them any more or something? Seems odd to mention Roscommon and Donegal and ignore the two counties in between. Or one if you accept that Leitrim isn't a real place.

uck51js9zml2yt

retalivity wrote: »

Cheaper costs?
A skilled workforce?
Better quality of life?
And contoversially...Grants?

Im from the nw, but living and working in dublin. I'd move back tomorrow (and id have an IT job to go back to) if i could persuade the wife.

What skilled workforce? Even you've left!

uck51js9zml2yt

Zaph wrote: »

What has the OP got against Sligo and Leitrim? Have they already been fully genocided and there's no hope for them any more or something? Seems odd to mention Roscommon and Donegal and ignore the two counties in between. Or one if you accept that Leitrim isn't a real place.

I was beginning to wonder if Leitrim was real until your last line. Now I know it's not and the the river drowse stops just outside bundoran and picks up across the border and that the 4 masters is just a story.

I'm glad we understand each other:)

NIMAN

Good old realitykeeper is back.

The ultimate conspiracy nut. Read back through some of their other nonsense on Boards.

This guy/girl watches too many crazy YouTube videos.

realitykeeper

Deleted User wrote: »

On the subject of immigration, especially into rural Ireland, 20 years ago I had a drink with 3 guys in a pub in the NW. 2 were from Algeria and the other guy was an Iraqi. The Algerians were fleeing the civil war, which by then had claimed 90,000 lives. They thought Irelandf was quiet and the people were nice to them, but there was nothing to do.

I saw a video made recently on youtube where a group of migrants were interviewed in a hotel lobby in Balahidreen. They all said the same thing, there was nothing to do.

Not sure what point you are making or it`s relevance.

realitykeeper

Odhinn wrote: »

All that blather just to get that stefan molyneaux video in.

Someone mentioned Ireland 2040. Had they not done so, the Stefan Molyneaux link would not have been referenced.

realitykeeper

Matt Barrett wrote: »

The hidden Culchie genocide is it? Alas one sniff of city living and they're away to run the government or become a landlord, pub or housing
I worked with a lad who owned a farm. It should be noted, I've never worked on a farm. He had a lad he paid to manage it while he worked in another field in Dublin. He'd often get text alerts from others regarding the Garda dipping fuel from cars and that.

No law abiding person would condone illegal activity. We would condemn bad government which spawns both rural and urban crime.

NIMAN

NIMAN wrote: »

Good old realitykeeper is back.

The ultimate conspiracy nut. Read back through some of their other nonsense on Boards.

This guy/girl watches too many crazy YouTube videos.

A troll with staying power. An oxymoron, if you will.

realitykeeper

Snickers Man wrote: »

Genocide, you say?

Indeed. Of course unlike your stats, this thread referenced rural counties as opposed to the whole country. Population distribution is pertinent here.

realitykeeper

realitykeeper wrote: »

Once upon a time, Ireland was densely populated.

Make up your mind now.

Are you telling a fairytale or a joke?

You might want to try reading something intended for adults instead of for 4 year olds.

As for densely populated? Good f***ing grief.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A troll with staying power. An oxymoron, if you will.

Well, you’re half right anyway.

realitykeeper

Asa Salmon Letter wrote: »

What would companies want to go to the north west for? There's nothing there for them.

Precisely. This point was expounded upon at the beginning of the thread.

realitykeeper

bubblypop wrote: »

As someone just home from 18 months investigating war crimes in a country that was victim to another countrys attempted genocide, I find this thread disgusting.

And I find your comment disgusting. I have spent time in other countries where genocide was also committed and I say shame on you.

realitykeeper

realitykeeper wrote: »

And I find your comment disgusting. I have spent time in other countries where genocide was also committed and I say shame on you.

Laying blocks or packing meat in the 80’s in Germany or a drunken weekend in Warsaw on a stag is not the same thing.

I find your comment ridiculous. Nothing new there.

realitykeeper

realitykeeper wrote: »

Not sure what point you are making or it`s relevance.

hi Reality Keeper, my point is that it seems absurd to me that many young people are emigrating from the NW region because they have no opportunities, meanwhile thousands of (and I hate the expression) 'economic migrants' are replacing them only to find that things in the NW are very quiet, and many of them find themselves going from day to day with little or nothing to do.

*you did mention migrants in your OP

This is genocide and replacing Donegal and Roscommon people with economic migrants from places other than Donegal and Roscommon in former hotels does not alter this fact.

realitykeeper

wingsof daun wrote: »

D. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group - abortion was fully endorsed by mainstream media in European countries and USA, the countries where white ppl live.
C. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about it's destruction in whole OR IN PART - by higher birth rates of other races (Muslims obviously) and lack of abortions and constant immigration, whites must become a minority group and they do not even live in majority Muslim areas.Whites even move out from black areas in USA. See "white flight", do you not believe this happened?! Look into it. There will be large areas where white people will move out from and already have in USA, Britian and Germany, for example. There is also the fact that interracial couples cannot have children who are whites and a percentage of the population will cross racial boundaries, who are mixed and may be some shade of brown or look asian etc. It eventually DESTROYS all the races after many generations. Humanity becomes a mixed brown colour. That is not fiction and that is also a crime. Every race is important

Well said sir!

Another point. Genocide (according to British methodology) includes children who were never born because they were never conceived because their parents were killed in the genocide. This is how they came up with the ten million figure for the Belgian genocide in the Congo in the late 19th century. Not sure if the Brits would tabulate their own attrocities using the same methods.

realitykeeper

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Look at the crowd in Croke Park whenever Donegal or Roscommon are playing. You won't find much evidence for any of that.

Donegal born fans (and their children) live in lots of places and not just in Donegal because the investment was not made to create the infrastructure needed to support more industry/jobs in Donegal.

realitykeeper

Collie D wrote: »

There should be some kind of award for posting the most incredibly insane post in After Hours ....

... and for this, the award is yours:)