Fox hunting

skooterblue2

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

I don't need to. Dullards and cowards.

I would have expected better from fox hunters on this thread. Some form of coherent argument. There really is a coherent argument though.


I can't wait for the day fox hunting is banned and its taken away from you.

It is going to be banned. You will have to get your jollies from somewhere else.
I'll come and smile at you if you want on that day.

Good luck with that. I saw some young one from one of the FG university cummans at the Ard Deis a few years back propose a blood sport ban on coursing. She got put down hard and fast by an older County councillor. I hever heard a peep about her again. Political suicide.

Discodog

The Tetrarch wrote: »

Why would you like to see horseracing phased out?
Would you kill the approx 250,000 thoroughbred horses worldwide?

I have two mares and one yearling.
One mare, now aged seven years, never ran, so never took part in horseracing.
She lived in the stud farm of a multi-millionaire before I bought her at auction.

The other mare ran ten times, or about 25 minutes in total in her five year life to date.

The yearling has not run, but might run as a two year old and older.

Those three horses have about 25 minutes racing time between them, in 13 years living.
They are well looked after, outside 24 hours a day in summer, in a warm stable at night in winter with time outside weather permitting.
They wear rugs to keep dry and warm.
The veterinary clinic is 6 kms away, about a 5 minute drive. I pay an annual agreed veterinary charge for each horse, and extra veterinary costs when needed.

Why do you want to see horseracing phased out?
If you think it through will mean the elimination of those three horses and the rest of the thoroughbred population.
The thoroughbred breed that has been in development over the last 300 years, does not exist in the wild and never did, and would not survive in the wild.
There is no habitat for them, and animal rights activist certainly will not house and feed them.

Animal right activists appear to look at one aspect only, a solution based on emotion, based on one aspect that does not appeal to them, ignoring the rest.
Your solution would also eliminate the greyhound breed.

I have already said that I support a gradual faze out. I am sure that most horses are well looked after but there are serious bad issues with racing mainly caused by betting.

I have no problem with equestrian sports like show jumping.

Your comment about Greyhounds is ridiculous. They existed long before racing. In the 1930s they were considered a fashion accessory by wealthy women.

mulbot

gozunda wrote: »

Because bs hyperbole repeated by others.

But your argument doesn't make sense. You can't compare an animal being killed on the road by accident or an event in nature, to the deliberate targeting of a wild animal by a houndpack directed by a group of people on horseback.

WinnyThePoo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

I don't need to. Dullards and cowards.

I would have expected better from fox hunters on this thread. Some form of coherent argument. There really is a coherent argument though.


I can't wait for the day fox hunting is banned and its taken away from you.

It is going to be banned. You will have to get your jollies from somewhere else.
I'll come and smile at you if you want on that day.

Good luck with that. I saw some young one from one of the FG university cummans at the Ard Deis a few years back propose a blood sport ban on coursing. She got put down hard and fast by an older County councillor. I hever heard a peep about her again. Political suicide.

I don't care about your inferiority complex to people who go to college. No one cares.

It isnt a valid reason for your bloodlust.

AudreyHepburn

gozunda wrote: »

You know what a drag hunt is? Or do I have to explain no foxes are hunted. Pets and domestic animals get smashed on roads all the time but I see no complaints from the like of youse. Typical hypocritical bs from English inspired anti rubbish. The drag hunt apologised. More than most motorists would bother doing ffs.

Clearly this wasn’t just a drag hunt. The hounds learned that behavior from somewhere and some other poor animals must have been seriously injured if not killed for them to learn it.

If it were my dogs that had been killed a court date would be the very least I’d be demanding.

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Yeah yeah, I know the auld spiel "there were only ever two REAL Republicans, you and Gerry Adams and sometimes you weren't sure about Adams". Heard it all before. Did ye ever hear about the one with the fox and the sour grapes?

Aint prosperity a bitch!?!? I dont be using one of them flashy iPhones when I have a Nokia. If you spent half the time fight the brits and the system and your neighbours you could have a farm you could be proud of.

Well that post was a load of sh*te about nothing. Bit like yourself! Very proud of my farm. You can visit, you'd probably learn a thing or two.

anewme

Discodog wrote: »

I have already said that I support a gradual faze out. I am sure that most horses are well looked after but there are serious bad issues with racing mainly caused by betting.

I have no problem with equestrian sports like show jumping.

Your comment about Greyhounds is ridiculous. They existed long before racing. In the 1930s they were considered a fashion accessory by wealthy women.

Greyhound racing is a dying "sport"

Someone in the Work Social suggested a night at the dogs. The responses were pretty harsh snd that idea was binned before it got off the ground.

gozunda

anewme wrote: »

So they generally ask.? Is trespass not illegal..?Many people see their pets as family members and are as attached to them as family members. That is their right.For the Hunt to kill a family pet on ts own lsnd and label it an accident is just crap.
I would be devastated if this were to happen to of my dogs. But how dare "the likes of youse" complain. Accidents dont just happen, they are caused. In this instsnce by illegally trespassing.
But they apologised so that meant the dog was raised from the dead.?

I thought this was a generalised attack on 'fox hunting. What has a Drag Hunt accident got to do with this?

Did you actually read the newspaper account or are you just committed to making the most tabloid headlines of what was a Drag Hunt and an unfortunate accident? Accidents 'are caused" really? - are you freekin serious?

This is the definition of accident from the online dictionary.

an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.

This shows the absolute bolloxology used by some antis In their rubbish attacks on others in an attempt of fostering their own rubbish ideology.

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Good luck with that. I saw some young one from one of the FG university cummans at the Ard Deis a few years back propose a blood sport ban on coursing. She got put down hard and fast by an older County councillor. I hever heard a peep about her again. Political suicide.

The FG Ard Deis!!!! Blueshirt alert! Do you wear brown county colours?

Discodog

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Shooting is fine , if you can do one clean shot ( most can’t .) Poison and snares are long slow deaths . Hounds kill a fox like all types of dogs do they bite through the neck . The English antis are thugs whothink they are fighting a “ class war “ or just want an excuse to attack children on ponies and call hounds on to roads and post the results as evidence of “ cruelty.”
If a farmer doesn’t want a hunt on their land , their wishes are respected . If a fox does cross , one person - the huntsman follows them and pulls them out .

Are you another one who thinks that Ireland is full of English extremists? If not then what does have to do with the thread?

Discodog

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Greyhounds are the whole time killing cats.should they do away with them too

Really? Who owns them? My Greyhound has never killed anything

skooterblue2

Marengo wrote: »

Well that post was a load of sh*te about nothing. Bit like yourself! Very proud of my farm. You can visit, you'd probably learn a thing or two.

Love to know what you could teach me about winter milking, seeing as how you dont do it yourself. Them nice fellas from the hunt left me a nice bottle of Connemara whisky this christmas in the hamper. Isnt it great to get on with your neighbours?

anewme

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Good luck with that. I saw some young one from one of the FG university cummans at the Ard Deis a few years back propose a blood sport ban on coursing. She got put down hard and fast by an older County councillor. I hever heard a peep about her again. Political suicide.

The world is changing rapidly and what was accepted a few years back will struggle now.

gozunda

Discodog wrote: »

Are you another one who thinks that Ireland is full of English extremists? If not then what does have to do with the thread?

They are fairly noticible tbh. They are pushing what is a essentialy a class based bs english agenda. Denying it is just a bit nonsensical no?

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Good luck with that. I saw some young one from one of the FG university cummans at the Ard Deis a few years back propose a blood sport ban on coursing. She got put down hard and fast by an older County councillor. I hever heard a peep about her again. Political suicide.

An old fat, useless county councillor no doubt. And your putting this person on a pedestal? County councillors are brain dead and a waste of tax payers money.

Are you in the higher echelons of the IFA too? Another shower who feathered their own best and did sweet FA for ordinary farmers.

For your information never voted SF and never voted FG blueshirt traitors.

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Love to know what you could teach me about winter milking, seeing as how you dont do it yourself. Them nice fellas from the hunt left me a nice bottle of Connemara whisky this christmas in the hamper. Isnt it great to get on with your neighbours?

I'd say drinking whiskey is all you're up to. Calve 80 continental sucklers.

You wouldn't handle me physically or mentally.

I get on with my neighbours. They aren't delusional 19th century wannabe aristocrats.

Get out and get fit and harden up. Your soft.

AudreyHepburn

gozunda wrote: »

Wtf is 'humane' - give your definition. Hounds when needed kill exactly same as foxes do quickly and efficiently do. Nothing gets 'chased to' exhaustion. Thats pure anti bolloxology. Do foxes when killed sometimes afterwards get ripped up? Yes they do same as foxes do to hares rabbits when dead etc. and no difference to wildlife smashed up on roads by people. Not my pretty but there you go. Just because you've been disneyfied or swallowed english anti / sab bs - thats your problem. Not the problem of land owners who want the very occasional problematic fox removed. In the UK these are now been wiped out by shooting. You want that? Nice ...

If you want rid of a fox that badly then a bullet is the quickest and most humane way to do it.

There is absolutely no need to have it ripped apart.

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Love to know what you could teach me about winter milking, seeing as how you dont do it yourself. Them nice fellas from the hunt left me a nice bottle of Connemara whisky this christmas in the hamper. Isnt it great to get on with your neighbours?

The oul ancestors in the RIC?

gozunda

Discodog wrote: »

Really? Who owns them? My Greyhound has never killed anything

Rehomed greyhound? Can you be really certain? Greyhounds natural instinct are as a sight hound for small prey ...

Discodog

gozunda wrote: »

They are fairly noticible tbh. They are pushing what is a essentialy a class based bs english agenda. Denying it is just a bit nonsensical no?

According to you there are lots of English extremists in Ireland & they are fairly noticible. But you can't show a shred of evidence to back that up.

Where are the protests? Which hunt was attacked?

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Love to know what you could teach me about winter milking, seeing as how you dont do it yourself. Them nice fellas from the hunt left me a nice bottle of Connemara whisky this christmas in the hamper. Isnt it great to get on with your neighbours?

An bhfuil tú abalta an teanga a usaid? Táim cainte go bhfuil sé caillte agat Sasanach..

Beir bua duit an maidrín rua!

Discodog

gozunda wrote: »

Rehomed greyhound? Can you be really certain? Greyhounds natural instinct are as a sight hound for small prey ...

Have you read the law regarding Greyhounds?

No she isn't a rehomed racer. She was dumped in Galway because she was too small to race.

gozunda

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

If you want rid of a fox that badly then a bullet is the quickest and most humane way to do it. There is absolutely no need to have it ripped apart.

Is it really? So when a landowner wants a specific fox removed - you say they are wrong?
Hounds kill the exact same way as foxes do - quickly and efficiently. You got problem with that? And problem is shooting does not always hit the mark. Like hares and rabbits fox might only get torn up after death. Nice? No. But no different from wildlife smashed up by people. How many times do you need this explained?

Discodog

gozunda wrote: »

Is it really? So when a landowner wants a specific fox removed - you say they are wrong?
Hounds kill the exact same way as foxes do - quickly and efficiently. You got problem with that? And problem is shooting does not always hit the mark. Like hares and rabbits fox might only get torn up after death. Nice? No. But no different from wildlife smashed up by people.

How can it be quick when the fox is chased to the point of exhaustion?

Marengo

There are Irishmen and Irish Women and there are a section of old FG Blueshirts. The later wanted/want to lose all Gaelic Irish traits. Their aspirations are those of the English gentry. Fox hunting for example.

You don't have to be a Shinner to recognise these lily livered traitors, without character, for what they are.

gozunda

Marengo wrote: »

An old fat, useless county councillor no doubt. And your putting this person on a pedestal? County councillors are brain dead and a waste of tax payers money.Are you in the higher echelons of the IFA too? Another shower who feathered their own best and did sweet FA for ordinary farmers.
For your information never voted SF and never voted FG blueshirt traitors.

So agist and body shaming sjw'er? Wow you are really an example to all the young people of this country ! Well done.

Time

gozunda wrote: »

Are you and english anti or something?.

What does that even mean?

gozunda

Discodog wrote: »

How can it be quick when the fox is chased to the point of exhaustion?

That's the bs anti rhetoric there. It's not. Hounds like foxes kill quickly and efficiently.

skooterblue2

Marengo wrote: »

The oul ancestors in the RIC?

Wow I am impressed not quite but very close, on the fathers side we came over with Cromwells soldiers and were in EIT company there after. That is as far back as I can trace to Cromwells Census of Ireland.

anewme

gozunda wrote: »

Is it really? So when a landowner wants a specific fox removed - you say they are wrong?
Hounds kill the exact same way as foxes do - quickly and efficiently. You got problem with that? And problem is shooting does not always hit the mark. Like hares and rabbits fox might only get torn up after death. Nice? No. But no different from wildlife smashed up by people. How many times do you need this explained?

You speak down to people as if the rest of us are ignorant gombeens.

But you excuse the horrific deaths of beloved family pets as "accidents"

Lack of empathy towards animals and how they feel pain.







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gozunda

Discodog wrote: »

According to you there are lots of English extremists in Ireland & they are fairly noticible. But you can't show a shred of evidence to back that up.Where are the protests? Which hunt was attacked?

And you can't show otherwise dispite the copycat postings or dispute other posters confirming same. I asked you previously and you never answered - funnily enough.

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Love to know what you could teach me about winter milking, seeing as how you dont do it yourself. Them nice fellas from the hunt left me a nice bottle of Connemara whisky this christmas in the hamper. Isnt it great to get on with your neighbours?

Winter milking, winter milking, you haven't a clue about hardship.

Drain 200 acres, and the rushes returning and drain again. Pick stone, ragwort, thistles constantly, fence in wetlands you can't travel by tractor walking 500m to 1000m carrying 10 stakes in your arms. That's only a start.. Jaysus I'd go through you like castor oil through shi*e! Putting a few oul machines on cows' udders.

As I said earlier the horse is getting the exercise with you, and you've a red snout from the 'Connemara' whiskey.

Hoboo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I have never seen a fox roll over for a dog!!!
Sounds like a lot of BS to me.

I've seen it, and I've heard the denials. You lot are so full of sh1t, the ban is coming and you're grasping at straws.

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Wow I am impressed not quite but very close, on the fathers side we came over with Cromwells soldiers and were in EIT company there after. That is as far back as I can trace to Cromwells Census of Ireland.

Planters stock.

Well I actually respect you more now. As fox hunting is your tradition, not being a wannabe.

skooterblue2

Marengo wrote: »

An bhfuil tú abalta an teanga a usaid? Táim cainte go bhfuil sé caillte agat Sasanach..

Beir bua duit an maidrín rua!

yes I can read and speak that language. a waste of good class time teaching monkey language. I actually prefer the word Sionnach. I was a smart boy at school and still remember that smelly Irish teacher who was never introduced to a back of soap.

anewme

Hoboo wrote: »

I've seen it, and I've heard the denials. You lot are so full of sh1t, the ban is coming and you're grasping at straws.

This is just so sad. Very very sad.

Marengo

gozunda wrote: »

So agist and body shaming sjw'er? Wow you are really an example to all the young people of this country ! Well done.

Come off it with the PC.

We all know what use councillors are. Tits on a bull.

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

yes I can read and speak that language. a waste of good class time teaching monkey language. I actually prefer the word Sionnach. I was a smart boy at school and still remember that smelly Irish teacher who was never introduced to a back of soap.

Monkey language.

Go back to your mainland.. racist.

Hoboo

Discodog wrote: »

How can it be quick when the fox is chased to the point of exhaustion?

You won't get anything but denial, sure the dogs tickle the fox to sleep. Post after post is ignoring fact and denial, you're dealing with inbreds.

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

yes I can read and speak that language. a waste of good class time teaching monkey language. I actually prefer the word Sionnach. I was a smart boy at school and still remember that smelly Irish teacher who was never introduced to a back of soap.

You were a smart boy at school.. where did it all go wrong..

gozunda

Hoboo wrote: »

I've seen it, and I've heard the denials. You lot are so full of sh1t, the ban is coming and you're grasping at straws.

Yeah and ban the freekin extremist nutters telling everyone else what they should think eat and do. Lol

These are same cohort who want to ban animal agriculture meat and dairy whether anyone agrees with them or otherwise. Be careful of your bedfellows lol ...

John_Rambo

There doesn't seem to be any room for them any more. The last thing farmers want (particularly sheep farmers and secondly any livestock farmers) is a pack of hounds running through their land. Plenty of evidence in the Farming and Forestation forum of hunts destroying fences and hedgerows, spooking livestock, defecating on land (a huge health risk to livestock), leaving gates open and ruining tillage. Also, most rural areas now are scattered with housing, it's impossible to stop a large pack straying in to gardens in most rural areas that are now basically large housing estates with large houses and large gardens.

I personally know a sheep farmer that had awful trouble from one hunt on her lands with no permission that cost her a lot of money from panicked ewes. Compensation was offered but never materialised.

The hounds aren't pets. They're highly instinctive, strong, very healthy (no hip dysplasia or other pedigree problems) hunt driven dogs in a pack and will go through fences, ditches, barbed wire and electric fences and will often kill small animals that aren't foxes.

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

yes I can read and speak that language. a waste of good class time teaching monkey language. I actually prefer the word Sionnach. I was a smart boy at school and still remember that smelly Irish teacher who was never introduced to a back of soap.

I was using maidrín rua as in the song.

Must be hard living in a country when your loyalty is to an inbred German who happens to be the Queen of England?

Finish THE MILKING, watch the royal wedding.

skooterblue2

Marengo wrote: »

Winter milking, winter milking, you haven't a clue about hardship.

Drain 200 acres, and the rushes returning and drain again. Pick stone, ragwort, thistles constantly, fence in wetlands you can't travel by tractor walking 500m to 1000m carrying 10 stakes in your arms. That's only a start.. Jaysus I'd go through you like castor oil through shi*e! Putting a few oul machines on cows' udders.

As I said earlier the horse is getting the exercise with you, and you've a red snout from the 'Connemara' whiskey.

Shrek swamp is soundin' attractive right about now. Sure all you need is mosquitos and Dengi fever and you have North Korea. I am guessing the smarter older brother is in the priesthood? figures

gozunda

Discodog wrote: »

Have you read the law regarding Greyhounds?
No she isn't a rehomed racer. She was dumped in Galway because she was too small to race.

Who said she 'raced' ffs

anewme

John_Rambo wrote: »

The hounds aren't pets. They're highly instinctive, strong, very healthy (no hip dysplasia or other pedigree problems) hunt driven dogs in a pack and will go through fences, ditches, barbed wire and electric fences and will often kill small animals that aren't foxes.

Just an "accident"

Sure could happen to a Bishop.

skooterblue2

Marengo wrote: »

You were a smart boy at school.. where did it all go wrong..

Oh it hasnt, I am only looking after the father farm, I am teaching as a day job. 22 hours a week and summers off, t'is the life. I am off to bed. night night

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Shrek swamp is soundin' attractive right about now. Sure all you need is mosquitos and Dengi fever and you have North Korea. I am guessing the smarter older brother is in the priesthood? figures

Having a dig at the priesthood racist? We all know what your sort got up to during the Penal times.

Don't worry about myself or my family, we survived well when big knobs like yourself were in debt

Must be hard living in the Republic of Ireland and a British supremacist.

All young have left is fox hunting. Lol!

Marengo

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Oh it hasnt, I am only looking after the father farm, I am teaching as a day job. 22 hours a week and summers off, t'is the life. I am off to bed. night night

Teaching, is that all? That's mid range intelligence.

I work in actuarial finance and farm.

John_Rambo

Marengo wrote: »

Teaching, is that all? That's mid range intelligence.

I work in actuarial finance and farm.

You must have had excellent mid range intelligence teachers!