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Virtanen

That's it? Because you know this is the final day, if you have any cards or opinions you're holding close to your chest, now's the time to come out with them

What's your opinion on QB?

Her timing on the first night lynch wasn’t a good look.

Do I stick with my gut or have a Yakult?

What you think, Virt?

OT

Good luck with the interview, QB!

quickbeam

Thanks. In reception now and need to pee . Not a good omen.

Virtanen

You'll be grand, just don't threaten to lynch them and you'll get on fine

Virtanen

To answer your question, Strawbs:

Kolido wrote: »

Your interaction with KK would suggest you're not a wolf but it could be a double bluff.

I'll place you in my good column for the time being.

In response to Strawbs

Kolido wrote: »

I had 2 on my ffa but I guess it wasnt picked up as I had the format wrong.

#FFA

Strawbs
Trit
Duffers (tentitive 3rd. Hasnt posted much so slotting him in here)

Places Strawbs on his FFA - presumably in number one spot, given he specified that Duffman was 3rd - but goes on to vote for Tritium

Kolido wrote: »

This is actually a great point. I'm really undecided at this time.

In response to QB's assessment of Strawb's early lynch vote

Kolido wrote: »

You voted for Trit lastly, hoping duffers didn't get online, you could have taken it to a tie break.

Bit of a wolfy move, not risking the tie breaker/rand

Criticizes QB's vote for Duffman instead of going for the tie-break

Kolido wrote: »

Just seeing this now.

Well it was two fold, a) I found his play being cagey, he was helpful but not posting too much to look like derailing the vil which is how a wolf would play imo. b) he was least on the vil side imo, call it a process of elimination

Responding to me, asking him to explain his own Tritium vote

Kolido wrote: »

Who says that? Wolves are more likely to join the crowd imo

His response to QB pointing out how he had focused on Strawbs before shifting to Tritium

Kolido wrote: »

So why did you vote Trit last night and not aim for a randed lynch, you basically had a killer vote (Duffers wasn't around and looked unlikely he wold be)

Unless you were sure about Trit, a randed vote had more chance of hitting a wolf. I think you didn't want to take that risk wolfbeam

Again, criticizing QB's vote for Tritium

Kolido wrote: »

At least we are on QB, not sure about Molly, I'd be more on strawbs

His response to Duffman saying he was 50/50 on QB or Molly being a wolf

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As far as I can find, these are the only notable interactions that Kolido had with the three of before it became obvious he was a wolf

He flip-flops on Strawbs quite a lot:
- Puts her in his good books
- But then names her in his FFA
- But then praises her for her early lynch vote, and ends up not voting for her
- But then goes on to say he thinks she's a wolf instead of Molly

On to QB:
- Praises QB for a good point regarding Strawbs
- Criticizes QB for not allowing the vote to go to chance - twice
- Points to QB as his main suspect

And myself:
- Blunt answer to my question, our one and only interaction before he seemed to out himself

In summary:
- There was a lot of talk about voting for Strawbs, but always seemed to find a reason to shift off of her
- Looked like he was trying to lead QB up to be lynched
- I know I'm a villager, you can draw your own conclusions on me

My conclusion:
- Strawbs, I think you're the last wolf standing

quickbeam

I’m wondering which of you would be more likely to munch Molly. Strawbs could probably be sure that Molly wouldn’t vote for her in a lynch so munching her would be getting rid of an ally. Unless that’s what she wants us to think.

Virtanen

Let's not forget Strawbs was also the one who was actively seeking information about the Seer shortly before they were munched

And is now giving very wishy-washy explanations for her reads of people when there are only two people in the game, and we need those reads the most

You two should be investigating each other more closely as I’m not the wolf.

I held my hands up for dragging kitten into a conversation and was happy to be sacrificed if it meant we could all move forward.

I’m doing a re read of you both and your interactions with Kolido. Have a couple of tabs open on phone and flitting between the two. But I am here.

quickbeam

They’re late!

Virtanen

That's a great example, they're setting

N0
Virt & Kolido no interactions
QB & Kolido 1

D1
Virt & Kolido 1 (indirect)
QB & Kolido 3, 2 half’s and a thank


QB talks about what others reads are on duffers. Kolido asks others too.
Virt on a read says Kolido hasn’t posted much and needs to hear more. Could be low lying wolf. Kolido has more posts than Virt at this stage.
Angsty about how long it’s taking me to type my reads (I haven’t posted Kolido yet).
SKeith most suspicious of Kolido & Virt as they are letting village rip itself apart as they sit back.
QB says Kolido (sling with others incl Virt) seem more villagery.
QB trips up saying Trit can’t know that she is not a wolf.
SKeith theory - players putting 3 names on 2 wolf game more likely to be a wolf (me, Kolido & Virt)
QB has question mark nothing else besidekolido and Virt (same line) on a read list.
Both Kolido and Virt defensive of my no female wolf team but don’t discuss it with each other.
23/1 @ 20:39 QB lists possible teams. Has Kolido and Virt team. 20:41 acknowledge that Kolido on list most often but doesn’t think Kolido a wolf.
QB votes Trit taking him out of game.

N1/D2 to follow

Virtanen

I know you're still working on the next part of that post, but just to clarify one of those points:

Angsty about how long it’s taking me to type my reads (I haven’t posted Kolido yet).

This reads like you're accusing me of doing it, but it wasn't, that was Skeith:

sKeith wrote: »

I get you, and the fact they are scattered across 8 or so posts across a page or 2 , its all over the place.


Maybe she will gather them all together and give a summary at the end.


How many leaning wolves she got so far?

Virtanen

Or QB actually, looking at the post that Skeith was replying to

Sorry, Virt it was QB who was angsty.

Reading and typing in another tab and thoughts so far, N1 is not a good look for QB.

quickbeam

And out. Will be here shortly.

N1


After munch QB wants to re evaluate her thoughts on Kolido as still on lots of team variations.
Kolido calls QBs vote on Trit a wolfy move
QB questions her thoughts on Kolido again re: variations and wonders should he be semi cleared.
QB replies to Kolido re Trit vote saying that she was never going to vote him (Kolido) as she didn’t think he was a wolf.
Virt wants to know why Kolido voted for Trit with very little reasoning.
Duffman says Kolido & Qb on Trit most stand out thing in dead heat lynch.
Keith has Kolido & Virt leaning good. Keith tut tut. QB leaning bad and me too. Another post mentions high and low posters. Kolido in low section, QB high, Virt low.
QB asks why she is wolf to Keith then pulls up two of his posts with Kolido in them. 180 turns. Then asks why am I wolf too.
Kolido quotes Qb wanting to know about Keith’s change too.
Molly does interactions and most suspicious of Kolido and Virt. Kolido replies saying wolf strategy usually not to talk to each other but perhaps not in this game. Feck you Kolido and your bluffs/double bluffs.
QB agrees with Molly that it’s glaring and thinks she will iso Kolido after munch

Keith munchef

It’s all about QB really on N1. She’s constantly throwing Kolido in there then defending him again.
Virt, you never interacted with him at all, again.

An hour to go and I dunno if I’ll have time to write everything up as I am on page 10 of 18! I’ll read, take notes and post where my heads at.

Virtanen

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Virt, you never interacted with him at all, again.

Up to the Skeith munch you're correct

I did have some further interaction with him yesterday, where I reiterated my question to him why he voted for Trit, which he answered. I also called him out after his slip where he said the village could afford another mislynch

Virtanen

For full clarity:

Virtanen wrote: »

And I don't think it was answered properly (if it was someone might direct me to it) but Kolido, could you give us an explanation of why you voted for Trit? And not just one line, but an actual explanation

Kolido wrote: »

Just seeing this now.

Well it was two fold, a) I found his play being cagey, he was helpful but not posting too much to look like derailing the vil which is how a wolf would play imo. b) he was least on the vil side imo, call it a process of elimination

And:

Kolido wrote: »

Sorry I had a meeting earlier that I wasnt expecting so didnt get a chance to post.
Fwiw I would have gone qb and strawbs

Yes Ive been wrong on a lot so far but I think everyone has. This game has been an uphill struggle since the seer went out first. I dont have any evidence to defend myself but I did push for the no lynch, which I believe was crucial in giving us this chance to win.
At the end of the day we can have a mislynch, so vote me if ye want, there will be another chance.

Virtanen wrote: »

By 'we' you must mean you and your wolf buddy, because the village can't

If that's the best you have to offer then I'd might as well put my vote in now

D2 so far is still looking bad for QB.

Virt, why me not QB? Where I’m at reading right now you were all over the possibility of them being a team.

Virtanen

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

D2 so far is still looking bad for QB.

Virt, why me not QB? Where I’m at reading right now you were all over the possibility of them being a team.

I was, but after reading through Kolido's posts last night (admittedly that was pointing me to Molly at the time) and again this morning, it seemed to me like he was setting QB up to be lynched, while he was chopping and changing on you with no real substance

You think that Kolido was instead bussing QB?

Virtanen

Again for clarity, here's a summation of my feelings that QB was a wolf earlier in the game:

Virtanen wrote: »

sKeith - Was helpful to the village last night helping to figure out when the Seer should come out. Not sure a Wolf would contribute that much to the village cause in such a small game

Kolido - Hasn't posted much, need to hear more from. Could be a low-lying wolf

Tritium - Decent enough contributions today, was the first to post an FFA. Is more reactionary than actively seeking

Quickbeam - Has been helpful to the village on both days. My only doubt is that Kitten may have implied that she had peeked him bad. Plus has been bussing Molly heavily, who I have as a stronger contender

Strawberry Milkshake - Questions when the Seer would have gotten a peak - which I was thinking as well, tbh. The problem is that these questions were premunch, our Seer responded and now she's dead. Not a good look here

Mollyb60 - Has been acting the most wolfy both days. From her double-negative last night, to her over-defensiveness today. She also referred to the village as "you guys", and asked to be lynched, which isn't a pro-village play

Duffman - Hasn't posted much, need to hear more from. Could be a low-lying wolf

So my #FFA1 is

Molly
Strawberry
Quickbeam

Virtanen wrote: »

If we're all voting for a no-lynch then I'm happy with a speed day

Onto the next lynch so. QB, you've appeared really helpful the last few days, but you did throw up several red flags prior to the lynch last night for me

You posted this, in response to Strawbs' early vote:



Which looks like classic pocketing to me. Then, not long after, you post your list of all the potential teams that are in the game. If you'd done it earlier then we might have been able to make a meaningful lynch out of it, but it seems to me like you were doing it to sew confusion for the lynch. Hell, you said that Strawbs was looking like she was about to be lynched, maybe she's your co-wolf and you were trying to protect her

Finally there's the whole flip-flopping act you pulled off before you're vote. Again, sewing confusion

Care to comment?

Virtanen wrote: »

Could be either one, personally I'm leaning towards pocketing. I had Strawbs on my FFA for her questions about the Seer prior to the munch, but since then she hasn't really done much to set off any alarm bells

You, on the other hand, were also on my FFA, albeit further down, but have since set off quite a few alarm bells. You insisted that my theory about Kitten's peek was wrong, because you knew you weren't a wolf. The problem is that we have no way of knowing that

As for why a wolf would flip-flop so much? To cover for why you were taking so long. We didn't get any vote from Duffman, maybe you were biding time and hoping to vote last, that way you could vote for whoever you wanted and effectively create a free munch

Maybe you wanted to see if you're teammate ended up with two votes, that way you could either lynch your co-wolf to gain credit with the village, or make sure the vote ended in a tie and go to a 2nd round

Virtanen wrote: »

I definitely think there's a low-lying wolf among the group, either Kolido or Duffman. The problem is that I think you might be the other one

You might be pointing out Kolido's actions to gain merit with the village and to bus your fellow wolf

Virtanen wrote: »

Just because it's a ballsy move doesn't mean it couldn't happen. In fact, pointing out how ballsy it is doesn't change that. I agree, it would be a stupid move. So stupid that, if someone were to actually try it, they might get away with it



Realistically, what more information do you think we could gather from the game as it is now? Do you really think that we'd get any more out of playing an extra 20 hours with no actions than just getting on with the game here and now?

Virtanen wrote: »

My top two suspects right now are:

Quickbeam
Duffman

I'm going to be honest, when I did my analysis of Kolido's posts last night, I thought it was going to point to QB as the other wolf. Instead it had the opposite effect and made her lean village for me

Looking back, they could have been bussing each other, but I'm sorry Strawbs, I feel like the evidence is pointing to you more than it is to QB. The evidence I have against her is circumstantial, whereas we know that Kolido was bad, therefore his interactions with people have more substance behind them

quickbeam

Okay, back peed and caught up.

Interviewer: Tell me how you work in a team?
Me: Well, I killed one of my team earlier this week.

(not a true story )



I think it was Yulewolf I said that the wolves may win it, but it was no thanks to their play that it was the village that would have lost it.

In this game, I seriously can't separate you two, and if we win it, it'll down to pure luck in who we vote for, and not in the least because of any bad play from the wolves. Whichever one of it it is between you two, win or lose, you can pat yourself on the back for a game very well played.

quickbeam

We going to come to a consensus before 1pm, and vote at 12.59pm?

Or we just going to vote who we want at 12.59pm?

I don't think a consensus is possible. OTOH, a wolf just needs the first person to vote for a villager for them to join in that vote. The wolf actually cares nothing for who gets lynched so long as it's not them. Me and the other villager really want to catch a wolf.

There was definite bussing going on yesterday. They didn’t have any other choice.

She has flip flopped over Kolido all day yesterday too and was fishing for our suspects for lynch before the munch had taken place. That has to be tactical play.

I have no read on you Virt - still! Just my stoopid head. I do it all the time (soz kitten, soz duffman) and it’s usually wrong. Think that time I was seer and got all those great peeks was more a fluke than anything else.

Argh I said an all male wolf team. Now I’m wondering if QB was wearing the trousers and confusing me

Virtanen

I really don't see any point in trying to reach a consensus with so few people left, honestly. Leave it up to fate IMO

quickbeam

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

There was definite bussing going on yesterday. They didn’t have any other choice.

She has flip flopped over Kolido all day yesterday too and was fishing for our suspects for lynch before the munch had taken place. That has to be tactical play.

I have no read on you Virt - still! Just my stoopid head. I do it all the time (soz kitten, soz duffman) and it’s usually wrong. Think that time I was seer and got all those great peeks was more a fluke than anything else.

Argh I said an all male wolf team. Now I’m wondering if QB was wearing the trousers and confusing me

No, I don't think I did (flip-flop over Kolido yesterday). Prior to that, yes, I did. But once I ISO'd him, I was pretty sure it was him. There wasn't even any heat on him then (dare I say, I was the one who brought the heat?) so what would have been the point to start ISOing and pointing out wolfy stuff about him at that stage. As I said before, if we were on a team, it'd make more sense for him to bus me as I was the one who had suspicion on them already.

I'm a villager Strawbs. Honestly.

Virtanen

quickbeam wrote: »

No, I don't think I did (flip-flop over Kolido yesterday). Prior to that, yes, I did. But once I ISO'd him, I was pretty sure it was him. There wasn't even any heat on him then (dare I say, I was the one who brought the heat?) so what would have been the point to start ISOing and pointing out wolfy stuff about him at that stage. As I said before, if we were on a team, it'd make more sense for him to bus me as I was the one who had suspicion on them already.

I'm a villager Strawbs. Honestly.

I said it earlier, but the fact that it wouldn't make sense is exactly why you might have done it, to keep a wolf entrenched in the village long-term...

God, we're 13 minutes away from lynch and I still don't know who to trust

You were!

My notes from Yesterday onwards


Asks others why they think Kolido is a wolf
Asks Kolido why he’s a villager
Asks are we sure he’s a wolf

Argh my head!

Who you voting for QB

Virtanen

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Who you voting for QB

Don't answer that

Don’t vote me I am a villager

A
Vill
A
Ger

quickbeam

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

You were!

My notes from Yesterday onwards


Asks others why they think Kolido is a wolf
Asks Kolido why he’s a villager
Asks are we sure he’s a wolf

Argh my head!

Asked him why he was a villager because it had become a theme. Trit asked me it. I asked Trit it, and you it, and Molly it. I think when people are pretending to be villagers, it's good to ask them why they are. I also thought his answer was poor, and called him up on it.

I also wanted others, you especially as you were the one I trusted most yesterday, to go over my ISO of him to see if there's stuff I missed or misinterpreted. I'd hardly have encouraged you to do that if he was my teammate.

quickbeam

Virtanen wrote: »

Don't answer that

I will.




in 8 minutes.

quickbeam

Guys, this might help: https://www.random.org/coins/

So trust me now.

My heads gotta be right sometimes, hasn’t it?

And if it is you - you deserve to win for all the effort you’ve put in.

I can hear Molly saying I’m gonna be the one slapped if I’m wrong.

quickbeam

I couldn't split between you three last night.

I slept. I woke. I decided it was Molly.


I need to sleep. Come to a decision on who the wolf is. Then vote for the other person - guaranteed win that way! All in 4 minutes!

quickbeam

quickbeam wrote: »

Guys, this might help: https://www.random.org/coins/

Mine said “the hell with it”

Virtanen

I prefer eenie meenie, personally

Gonna vote around 12:59:30

quickbeam

#Vote: Virtanen

#votevirtenan

Virtanen

#VoteQuickbeam

Virtanen

Damn it

Well played village

Phew thank god we’re done

We won??????

quickbeam

Okay, everyone come clean. I was NRV as I've been saying all along. Which one of you was it?

kitten_k

As QB and Strawberry we’re out for a stroll, QB suddenly tripped. She has stumbled on the elusive mixer.

Village win!