Super easy & quick vanilla cake - a Werewolf recipe

quickbeam

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Yeah but it was a good spot by Strawbs. So either she got a peek and peeked me or she didn't. You obviously believe the former coz it suits your narrative of me as a wolf. I know she didn't peek me and see a mollywolf coz I'm not a wolf. So therefore I believe she didn't get a peek.

No, I don't "believe" she peeked you. I'm speculating. How would I know if she peeked you or not??

And even if she didn't peek you, that is zero proof that she didn't peek someone.

You're very defensive here this morning Molf.

quickbeam

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Yeah but it was a good spot by Strawbs. So either she got a peek and peeked me or she didn't. You obviously believe the former coz it suits your narrative of me as a wolf. I know she didn't peek me and see a mollywolf coz I'm not a wolf. So therefore I believe she didn't get a peek.

On another read, this just reads all sort of wrong to me.

You're saying that the ONLY options were:
She had a peek and peeked you.
Or she hadn't a peek.

What a pile of poo!

Virtanen

Mollyb60 wrote: »

I really need to hear more from Virt

My bad, was busy yesterday and just skimmed through the thread as it was happening. Here for the rest of the day now though

QB and SK are leaning villager for me, based on how much of the game they unfurled on Day 0. Possible one might be a wolf but I doubt the two wolves would be brazen enough to lead the village like that

Mollyb60

quickbeam wrote: »

No, I don't "believe" she peeked you. I'm speculating. How would I know if she peeked you or not??

And even if she didn't peek you, that is zero proof that she didn't peek someone.

You're very defensive here this morning Molf.

Of course I'm defensive. You're picking at me because I picked at you. It's the worst sort of OMGUS wolf play and it annoys me.

Virtanen

I though this interaction was odd from this morning:

Mollyb60 wrote: »

I do have a long running theory about there always being a wolf in the first 5 posts of a game. I'm not so committed to the theory though to actually go look back through the previous games to check out the theory though.
Therefore, one of me, QB, Virtanen, Keith or Trit is the wolf. My money's on QB.

kitten_k wrote: »

Morning everyone, freezing out there today!

Be interesting to see at the end of the game of your theory is right Molly. Then again with so few players in this game compared to a normal game it’s probably more likely.

Given we know Kitten was the Seer, that seems like strangely specific phrasing to me. Could have hinting that she did get a peek in, and that she peeked Trit as a wolf?

quickbeam

Virtanen wrote: »

I though this interaction was odd from this morning:





Given we know Kitten was the Seer, that seems like strangely specific phrasing to me. Could have hinting that she did get a peek in, and that she peeked Trit as a wolf?

Why Trit?

Virtanen

The end, it was the last name in Molly's list

quickbeam

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Of course I'm defensive. You're picking at me because I picked at you. It's the worst sort of OMGUS wolf play and it annoys me.

You picked on me for literally nothing and in three different posts, so determinedly. As I know I’m village that just screams of ‘find a scapegoat to get lynched’ and be halfway to winning.

Kitten’s post is the least of it. Your replies are far more telling.

Mollyb60

quickbeam wrote: »

You picked on me for literally nothing and in three different posts, so determinedly. As I know I’m village that just screams of ‘find a scapegoat to get lynched’ and be halfway to winning.

Kitten’s post is the least of it. Your replies are far more telling.

Sorrynotsorry. That's just how I'm playing. You never heard of tree shaking? How do you propose to find the wolves seeing as how I'm not one?

quickbeam

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Sorrynotsorry. That's just how I'm playing. You never heard of tree shaking? How do you propose to find the wolves seeing as how I'm not one?

I’ve heard of it. What fell out there for you?

I love a good scrap of a Wednesday

Right, pen to paper time. Gonna make up my list of reads so far on everybody.

tritium

Virtanen wrote: »

I though this interaction was odd from this morning:





Given we know Kitten was the Seer, that seems like strangely specific phrasing to me. Could have hinting that she did get a peek in, and that she peeked Trit as a wolf?

Virt that’s a really interesting connection you’ve made. One might actually say it’s stretching (largely because it’s welll...stretching. Care to explain how you got to me in those quotes? Cause if I wanted to call it specific phrasing it would be a different player I’d say was peeked. Right now it’s not a good look for you with me since you seem to be trying to lead us on to something that frankly just isn’t there

quickbeam

tritium wrote: »

Virt that’s a really interesting connection you’ve made. One might actually say it’s stretching (largely because it’s welll...stretching. Care to explain how you got to me in those quotes? Cause if I wanted to call it specific phrasing it would be a different player I’d say was peeked. Right now it’s not a good look for you with me since you seem to be trying to lead us on to something that frankly just isn’t there

Me right? In fairness if there was anything to Virt’s theory then it’d have been me she was speaking of. I might have been peeked but I sure wasn’t peeked evil so I’d say the theory is wrong.

quickbeam

But it is telling that he got Trit out of the list. Just not sure what exactly it is telling.

Virtanen

quickbeam wrote: »

But it is telling that he got Trit out of the list. Just not sure what exactly it is telling.

It's telling that I'm **** at reading is the honest answer, I was concentrating on the actual list of names and skimmed over the following sentence

Kolido

God forbid anyone to mention an FFA today. are we doing one?

tritium

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Question that I should know the answer to - is the seer peeking during night phase?

Strawbs, this bothers me. You know this game well, but you ask this. It feels very much like you’re looking to get a seer reaction

kitten_k wrote: »

I would assume so as that is when it usually happens

Which you get, and then kitten dies at munch. It feels very much like cause and effect wolfshake


Im going to go further - I think based on kittens interactions with molly she was pointing her as a peeked wolf

kitten_k wrote: »

Morning everyone, freezing out there today!

Be interesting to see at the end of the game of your theory is right Molly. Then again with so few players in this game compared to a normal game it’s probably more likely.

If we are going with the suggestion above that the seer needs to come out after two peeks that means the seer won’t be out until Wednesday (if we are assuming no peek last night). If the seer feels like they are in any danger though they should tell us what they know at that point.

You of course are part of that first five. Then there’s this one....

kitten_k wrote: »

Evening all. I reckon by the end of this game we will all be craving cake!! Thanks Pter!

I see the accusations are started. Molly - I reckon the nickname is going to follow you around now.

That just seems too blatant from a seer to not say wolf.

So if we’re doing ffa today (and we should) I’m calling it as

#ffa1

1. Wolfshake
2. Mollywolf

quickbeam

I’m not so sure about Strawbs, Trit. However I definitely think you could be right about Kitten peeking the Molf. That and her reaction this morning. I’d be definitely including her on my FFA as it stands. I don’t have two others but it’s early yet.

Mollyb60

quickbeam wrote: »

I’ve heard of it. What fell out there for you?

Not a lot actually. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. I've never tried it before and thought I'd take a chance here. Also I thought a strong accusation might make people think I was the seer. That clearly didn't work as I wasn't munched which leads me towards you not being wolfy.

Look guys you can afford a mislynch today so if you need to lynch me then fine. You just gotta have other options for when I come back as nrv. At least at that point you'll be down 2 villagers and will only have 7 to look at. I've not got many reads today and I don't think we're gonna get much but I do think that Trit not acknowledging keith last night with his first post was suss. Seemed a bit obvious. Is obvious wolf that obvious? I dunno. So maybe keith and trit for my FFA#1.

quickbeam

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Reading back, duffman dodge to me.

As a matter of interest, why Duffers. What screams ‘wolf’ from two posts?

quickbeam

If Molly is a wolf I think Duffer is village because it would be hugely stoopid wolf move for both to go accusing the one person (me as it happens).

I saw Duffer’s accusation as more tree shaking as it was a once off. Molly’s three persistent accusations in a row seemed more than tree shaking to me.

quickbeam

Or Molly’s a villager and Duffers is a wolf who thought he saw a potential bandwagon forming when Molly accused me and wanted to get on early and get the good seats.

Mollyb60

Well theres your next target then after me.

Kolido

What's your read on Duffers, Molly?

As I said this morning, you started the game a bit to gung ho to be a wolf

Mollyb60

duffman13 wrote: »

QB paddling her post count, doing tasks as usual!

I'm leaning QB and MollyWolf as my two suspicions!

Unsure as to why I'm barred by Pter! Insecurity maybe?

duffman13 wrote: »

Straight in no kissing

Seer will have to reveal after two peeks IMO regardless. Need to be careful as theirs an easy wolf strategy if we get one mislynch which will pretty much win the game

These are the only 2 posts I can find by duffman in this game. Is that right? There's not much to go on there tbh.
I think naming both me and QB as wolves is a bit silly but I dunno if I'd call it a wolfy move.

@tritium

@tritium

I asked about the timing of 1st peek as it would make a difference as to when the seer should come out. I also hoped that the way I asked might lead the wolves to think that I might be seer and munch me.

I have notes on you all. Gonna condense then into a post next.

tritium

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Feck sake. Lynch me for dragging her into a convo about the seer. I had her pegged for wolf

Wolfshake, can you explain this comment please- why specifically did you think kitten was a wolf

tritium

quickbeam wrote: »

If Molly is a wolf I think Duffer is village because it would be hugely stoopid wolf move for both to go accusing the one person (me as it happens).

I saw Duffer’s accusation as more tree shaking as it was a once off. Molly’s three persistent accusations in a row seemed more than tree shaking to me.

quickbeam wrote: »

Or Molly’s a villager and Duffers is a wolf who thought he saw a potential bandwagon forming when Molly accused me and wanted to get on early and get the good seats.

Interesting thought process. Let’s play it out for a second. If for example you were a wolf and we follow this chain of thought then the likely endgame is you’ve set up two mislynches here to win the game.giventhat, if molly flipped village why wouldn’t the right play be to look at you?

tritium

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

@tritium

I asked about the timing of 1st peek as it would make a difference as to when the seer should come out. I also hoped that the way I asked might lead the wolves to think that I might be seer and munch me.

I have notes on you all. Gonna condense then into a post next.

How exactly would asking how the seer works make anyone think you were the seer? Genuine question

I always think Kittens a wolf she’s my new MrsFD.

I thought her posts were helpful but she was also on the Molly train which felt bandwagony to me.

Turns out her posts were helpful as she stated (twice) that she thought there was no N0 peek. She may have jumped on that bandwagon to blend in. Question is - were the wolves thinking ahead to the lynch of Molly due to one of her accusers being munched?

tritium

tritium wrote: »

How exactly would asking how the seer works make anyone think you were the seer? Genuine question

By bringing up the seer in a don’t know how it works way, they might look at me more. I’m an NRV, I’m happy to be bait.

quickbeam

tritium wrote: »

Interesting thought process. Let’s play it out for a second. If for example you were a wolf and we follow this chain of thought then the likely endgame is you’ve set up two mislynches here to win the game.giventhat, if molly flipped village why wouldn’t the right play be to look at you?

We lynch Molly and she turns out to be villager so you lynch me instead and the village loses. Plain and simple. I’m just looking at all the possilites. I’m only certain of two roles: mine and Kitten’s. After that it could be anyone. Wolves of course know everyone’s role now.

Gonna do my reads post next which is gonna be long. I’ll answer any other questions later.

tritium

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I always think Kittens a wolf she’s my new MrsFD.

I thought her posts were helpful but she was also on the Molly train which felt bandwagony to me.

Turns out her posts were helpful as she stated (twice) that she thought there was no N0 peek. She may have jumped on that bandwagon to blend in. Question is - were the wolves thinking ahead to the lynch of Molly due to one of her accusers being munched?

What bandwagon exactly?

Kitten had one post last night, two this morning before her reply to you. Apart from that her posts are basically a convo with you on the seer. Far as I can see the most helpful element was for the wolves, which keeps bringing me back to you raising the topic.

quickbeam

quickbeam wrote: »

We lynch Molly and she turns out to be villager so you lynch me instead and the village loses. Plain and simple. I’m just looking at all the possilites. I’m only certain of two roles: mine and Kitten’s. After that it could be anyone. Wolves of course know everyone’s role now.

Oh and to add ... I don’t say that Duffers is definitely a wolf if Molly turns villager. That’s supposition at the moment only.

QUICKBEAM - first poster and first three posts in succession. 3rd one asking about seer and also lynch/munch times that are clearly in OP. Pter, in a later post, says OP updated. Were times added in then?
Mentions seer again.
Thinks Keith has “nice spot” over Keith’s double negative.
Still battling with Molly this morning.
Thinks it’s a safe assumption that wolf in 1st 5 posters.
Posted 1st after munch (me second everyone else silent). 2 mins later pulls a kitten post with Molly in it. These 2 can’t be a team, surely?
Still on Molly.
Has good vibes off me.
Replies to Trit about Virts post thinking she, QB, would have been peeked. Why would she think that? I don’t get this. Thinks it’s telling that Virt got Trit out of list.
QB not sure I’m wolf but Molly is.

Conclusion - a null leaning to wolf read

tritium

quickbeam wrote: »

Oh and to add ... I don’t say that Duffers is definitely a wolf if Molly turns villager. That’s supposition at the moment only.

Umm it’s a bit difficult to read the following two posts and agree with you on this. It’s very hard not to read them as an either/ or.

quickbeam wrote: »

If Molly is a wolf I think Duffer is village because it would be hugely stoopid wolf move for both to go accusing the one person (me as it happens).

I saw Duffer’s accusation as more tree shaking as it was a once off. Molly’s three persistent accusations in a row seemed more than tree shaking to me.

quickbeam wrote: »

Or Molly’s a villager and Duffers is a wolf who thought he saw a potential bandwagon forming when Molly accused me and wanted to get on early and get the good seats.

quickbeam

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Replies to Trit about Virts post thinking she, QB, would have been peeked. Why would she think that? I don’t get this. Thinks it’s telling that Virt got Trit out of list.

Didn’t say I thought I was peeked.

I said that if Virt’s theory was right, that Kitten’s response to Molly was a hint that Molly was on the right lines, then it would more likely refer to a peek on be being evil than a peek on Trit being evil. I knew I’d not peek evil therefore dismissed Virt’s theory.

quickbeam

tritium wrote: »

Umm it’s a bit difficult to read the following two posts and agree with you on this. It’s very hard not to read them as an either/ or.

I grant that’s how it might have read which is why I clarified it.

tritium

Seems to be a few posters doing all the posting. We need village to post more please.

Ffas with reasons would also be appreciated

MOLLY - 2nd player to post. Notes QB is eager.
Starts scrapping with QB which has continued to time of this post. Can’t see them as teammates.
Calmly calls Trit a wolf after “mollywolf”. Also adds Keith to mix.
Agreed with QB about seer timing.
Likes her Mollywolf title.
Doesn’t know how to answer Keith’s accusation - I like the honesty of that a think a wolf would argue it.
Shrugs off accusations. Still on QB.
Unsure about Keith and Trit.
Long running theory of wolf in 1st 5 posts but not committed due to size of this game but still on QB.
Asks Keith about mislynches and wants to hear more from Virt and Duffers as nothing to go on which has pushes her to have Trit and QB as suspects but says it’s only gut feels. If Molly bad I might be looking at Trit as his position in her list keeps changing.
Still scrapping with QB.
Calls my posts about Kitten and N0 peeks a good spot.

CONCLUSION - Null to slight good feel about her.

Virtanen

sKeith - Was helpful to the village last night helping to figure out when the Seer should come out. Not sure a Wolf would contribute that much to the village cause in such a small game

Kolido - Hasn't posted much, need to hear more from. Could be a low-lying wolf

Tritium - Decent enough contributions today, was the first to post an FFA. Is more reactionary than actively seeking

Quickbeam - Has been helpful to the village on both days. My only doubt is that Kitten may have implied that she had peeked him bad. Plus has been bussing Molly heavily, who I have as a stronger contender

Strawberry Milkshake - Questions when the Seer would have gotten a peak - which I was thinking as well, tbh. The problem is that these questions were premunch, our Seer responded and now she's dead. Not a good look here

Mollyb60 - Has been acting the most wolfy both days. From her double-negative last night, to her over-defensiveness today. She also referred to the village as "you guys", and asked to be lynched, which isn't a pro-village play

Duffman - Hasn't posted much, need to hear more from. Could be a low-lying wolf

So my #FFA1 is

Molly
Strawberry
Quickbeam

quickbeam

Virtanen wrote: »

Quickbeam - Has been helpful to the village on both days. My only doubt is that Kitten may have implied that she had peeked him bad. Plus has been bussing Molly heavily, who I have as a stronger contender

her

sKeith

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

QUICKBEAM - first poster and first three posts in succession. 3rd one asking about seer and also lynch/munch times that are clearly in OP. Pter, in a later post, says OP updated. Were times added in then?
Mentions seer again.
Thinks Keith has “nice spot” over Keith’s double negative.
Still battling with Molly this morning.
Thinks it’s a safe assumption that wolf in 1st 5 posters.
Posted 1st after munch (me second everyone else silent). 2 mins later pulls a kitten post with Molly in it. These 2 can’t be a team, surely?
Still on Molly.
Has good vibes off me.
Replies to Trit about Virts post thinking she, QB, would have been peeked. Why would she think that? I don’t get this. Thinks it’s telling that Virt got Trit out of list.
QB not sure I’m wolf but Molly is.

Conclusion - a null leaning to wolf read

The Flavor story was added to OP then.

tritium

quickbeam wrote: »

As a matter of interest, why Duffers. What screams ‘wolf’ from two posts?

Strawbs did you ever answer this?

VIRTANEN - 3rd player to post with “I like vanilla ice cream”.
Next post today @ 20:25 leaning village on QB and Keith. Then adds that one possible for wolf but not the two together.
Thinks Molly interaction odd.
Questions if kitten peeked a wolf in Trit (feck knows why) - dodgy post.
Says they are **** at reading.

Conclusion - not much really. Don’t think Virt is on a team with QB or Keith anyway. Usually have a few names on a list before throwing a gesture towards your teammate.

quickbeam

Times if lynch and munch were part of Pter’s edit. It was not in it previously. And I thought it was a live game planned, hence my original question.

quickbeam

tritium wrote: »

Strawbs did you ever answer this?

No she didn’t. Hopefully her bio of each of us will explain it when she gets to Duff.

Virtanen

quickbeam wrote: »

her

SKEITH - 4th player to post with witty cake recipe.
Next post onto how many mislynches we can have - helpful
Questions if Molly a wolf for double negative.
Likes Duffmans straight talking style.
Discussing time for seer reveal.

Conclusion - village lean. I think a wolf would let us work out for ourselves how many mislynches we could have.