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When did Gemma O Doherty go batshyt crazy?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    batgoat wrote: »
    Suspect the Dr may disappear for a while and pretend this never happened now.

    Would it really have mattered what he said. Ye would have ganged up on him anyway . I wouldn't be arsed if I was him. This tread is so anti gemma. What's the point?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Billcarson wrote: »
    Would it really have mattered what he said. Ye would have ganged up on him anyway . I wouldn't be arsed if I was him. This tread is so anti gemma. What's the point?

    Eh, he made a claim that was categorically untrue and ran with it for about two days... Facts should take a priority to nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭musiknonstop


    For Gemma corruption is anything she doesn't like. So right now, the venues that canceled her meetings are corrupt. It's all ego. Is there anyone she hasn't fallen out with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    Blocking abusive comments on twitter is not the same as shutting down public meetings.

    There is a thread on her facebook page about ISIS fighters returning to Ireland. Cue many posts lambasting Varadker. Fair enough. One lady posted that "He dosen't have any Irish blood in him." I responded that his mother was born in Waterford so he has half Irish blood. She responded "But where was he born" I responded that he was born in the Rotunda in Dublin.

    So i in no way insulted anyone and refuted a post. What happened to those comments. Why they were deleted of course. Why? My only take is it didn't suit the narrative that she wanted to portray on her site.

    This happens all the time. Ask a simple question that dosen't suit the agenda and you are blocked or get many abusive messages about being a Soros funded shrill etc etc. So for her followers to bang on about free speech is laughable to the extreme.

    It's an echo chamber with no room for any reasoned debate. How do you arrive at any position with debate is beyond me. And the comments on her facebook and twitter are downright disgusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    ollkiller wrote: »
    There is a thread on her facebook page about ISIS fighters returning to Ireland. Cue many posts lambasting Varadker. Fair enough. One lady posted that "He dosen't have any Irish blood in him." I responded that his mother was born in Waterford so he has half Irish blood. She responded "But where was he born" I responded that he was born in the Rotunda in Dublin.

    So i in no way insulted anyone and refuted a post. What happened to those comments. Why they were deleted of course. Why? My only take is it didn't suit the narrative that she wanted to portray on her site.

    This happens all the time. Ask a simple question that dosen't suit the agenda and you are blocked or get many abusive messages about being a Soros funded shrill etc etc. So for her followers to bang on about free speech is laughable to the extreme.

    It's an echo chamber with no room for any reasoned debate. How do you arrive at any position with debate is beyond me. And the comments on her facebook and twitter are downright disgusting.

    Nobody is interested in facts.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭hill16bhoy


    The Russian funding mustn't have come through until some time after September 2015. :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,041 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    The Russian funding mustn't have come through until some time after September 2015. :D

    That was before she went to crazy town.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    It was Gemma who broke the news about the coach in terenure college abusing young boys. Fair play to her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,611 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    It was Gemma who broke the news about the coach in terenure college abusing young boys. Fair play to her.

    A bus?

    Sounds like one of Gemma's all right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It was Gemma who broke the news about the coach in terenure college abusing young boys. Fair play to her.

    Fair to play her but that doesnt excuse her being a far racist bullying censor

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Fair to play her but that doesnt excuse her being a far racist bullying censor




    Gemma is not the one who is having public meetings shut down.


    The scumbags who are targeting her are far worse "censors" than she could ever be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Thats just one source.


    The story broke long before it was even in the The kilkenny Journal.

    The kilkenny Journal.

    Nah you lack all credibility with that as a source.

    Its well documented Michael McGrath is a Neo Nazi and extreme racist and extreme homophobe

    https://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/26034

    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/1988-11-30/14/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,536 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    Thats just one source.


    The story broke long before it was even in the The kilkenny Journal.

    Why quote a far right rag like the Kilkenny Journal as a source? I mean, who actually does that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    Boggles wrote: »
    It was Gemma who broke the news about the coach in terenure college abusing young boys. Fair play to her.

    A bus?

    Sounds like one of Gemma's all right.
    The young boys he targeted are still dealing with the horrific abuse he inflicted on them. Not really a joking matter pal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Why quote a far right rag like the Kilkenny Journal as a source? I mean, who actually does that?

    Exactly

    Its an extreme far right hate site.

    It says an awful lot about people using it as a source.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    A report in the Independent about Pat Corcoran for those looking for a credible source .httpsw.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/former-civil-servant-caught-with-7000-child-porn-images-avoids-jail-29755182.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    Gemma is not the one who is having public meetings shut down.


    The scumbags who are targeting her are far worse "censors" than she could ever be.

    No

    Seriously just stop peddling nonsense. Gemma is the one who is literally having people manhandled and thrown out of hotels. Gemma is the one harassing and threatening Fiona O'Leary. Gemma is the one issuing many legal threats.

    Gemma doesnt like any speech that disagrees with her. Painting Gemma as a free speech advocate is completely and utterly wrong.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    The Kilkenny journal is written by this mad scone btw :

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/druid-accused-of-disorderly-acts-1.105454

    Five summonses, four under the Public Order Act, against the "Arch Druid of Tara and Ireland", were adjourned at Kilkenny Court yesterday. The defendant, Mr Michael McGrath, of Dominic Street, Kilkenny, gave the court an undertaking he would not put up notices around the city concerning one of the prosecuting gardai.

    Mr McGrath, the "chosen chief of the Order of Druids", agreed to the undertaking and Judge William Harnett adjourned the case to the court of December 10.

    Mr McGrath is summonsed for breaking a pane of glass valued £75 in Kilkenny on October 10th; being intoxicated and a danger to himself or others; engaging in offensive conduct in that he used insulting words, and engaging in threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with the intent of provoking a breach of the peace.

    He is also summonsed for distributing "a writing" which was threatening, abusive, insulting or obscene with the intent of provoking a breach of the peace at Kilkenny Garda Station, also on October 10th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,611 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    In answer to the thread title question.

    When did she go batshít?

    It would appear around the same time her husband died.

    She is ill, she badly needs a family intervention and help.

    I think she needs to be just ignored, TBH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    No

    Seriously just stop peddling nonsense. Gemma is the one who is literally having people manhandled and thrown out of hotels. Gemma is the one harassing and threatening Fiona O'Leary. Gemma is the one issuing many legal threats.

    Gemma doesnt like any speech that disagrees with her. Painting Gemma as a free speech advocate is completely and utterly wrong.

    You think Fiona O Leary is normal .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,041 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    The young boys he targeted are still dealing with the horrific abuse he inflicted on them. Not really a joking matter pal.

    Has his trial started yet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    No

    Seriously just stop peddling nonsense. Gemma is the one who is literally having people manhandled and thrown out of hotels.


    If you go to any meeting run by FF/FG and start causing trouble you would be kicked out. Nothing unusual about that.



    Gemma is the one harassing and threatening Fiona O'Leary. Gemma is the one issuing many legal threats.
    lol it was O'Leary who started the harassment campaign against Gemma.


    Gemma has every right to defend herself.


    Gemma doesnt like any speech that disagrees with her. Painting Gemma as a free speech advocate is completely and utterly wrong.
    It is a free speech issue when you can't hold a public meeting because of the threat of violence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,536 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    If you go to any meeting run by FF/FG and start causing trouble you would be kicked out. Nothing unusual about that.




    lol it was O'Leary who started the harassment campaign against Gemma.


    Gemma has every right to defend herself.




    It is a free speech issue when you can't hold a public meeting because of the threat of violence.

    Do you have a link to these threats of violence against the venue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Fieldog wrote: »
    The Kilkenny journal is written by this mad scone btw :

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/druid-accused-of-disorderly-acts-1.105454

    Five summonses, four under the Public Order Act, against the "Arch Druid of Tara and Ireland", were adjourned at Kilkenny Court yesterday. The defendant, Mr Michael McGrath, of Dominic Street, Kilkenny, gave the court an undertaking he would not put up notices around the city concerning one of the prosecuting gardai.

    Mr McGrath, the "chosen chief of the Order of Druids", agreed to the undertaking and Judge William Harnett adjourned the case to the court of December 10.

    But his article...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,325 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    gmisk wrote: »
    I think that story has been mentioned here a few times and totally discredited. If you read back.
    The Kilkenny journal is not a real news site, it is pretty much the rantings and opinions of one let's say right wing man.
    It has no credibility, just look at it...
    https://kilkennyjournal.wordpress.com

    https://twitter.com/PhotogKilkenny?s=09

    It has had some err gems
    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/12/10/anything-good-in-the-kilkenny-journal/

    Scrolling through his twitter it's amazing that most of his stuff doesn't even get a like. That's strange because we've seen similar views from people like GoD and they rake in the likes.

    I did find this gem though. Not sure what he means by his entry into Ireland.

    https://twitter.com/PhotogKilkenny/status/1110038759880491008


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    Thats just one source.


    The story broke long before it was even in the The kilkenny Journal.
    So provide us with a credible source, the origins of the story go back to some random publication thinking they were interviewing a member of antifa. Instead they ended up interviewing what was likely a Neo Nazi. I've provided info on it earlier in the thread.
    rgossip30 wrote: »
    A report in the Independent about Pat Corcoran for those looking for a credible source .httpsw.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/former-civil-servant-caught-with-7000-child-porn-images-avoids-jail-29755182.html

    Nobody is disputing the conviction. Saying he's a founder of antifa Ireland is bull**** though....


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    Grayson wrote: »
    Scrolling through his twitter it's amazing that most of his stuff doesn't even get a like. That's strange because we've seen similar views from people like GoD and they rake in the likes.
    [/url]

    I don't follow Gemma on twitter but I only ever see her mentioned when *outraged* people retweet her stuff and go "LOOK LOOK LOOK EVERYBODY AT WHAT SHE HAS SAID AND HOW BAD SHE IS"

    So she's getting massive signal boosting from that sort of stuff.

    She's best ignored like that other lunatic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Fieldog wrote: »
    The Kilkenny journal is written by this mad scone btw :

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/druid-accused-of-disorderly-acts-1.105454

    Five summonses, four under the Public Order Act, against the "Arch Druid of Tara and Ireland", were adjourned at Kilkenny Court yesterday. The defendant, Mr Michael McGrath, of Dominic Street, Kilkenny, gave the court an undertaking he would not put up notices around the city concerning one of the prosecuting gardai.

    Mr McGrath, the "chosen chief of the Order of Druids", agreed to the undertaking and Judge William Harnett adjourned the case to the court of December 10.

    Mr McGrath is summonsed for breaking a pane of glass valued £75 in Kilkenny on October 10th; being intoxicated and a danger to himself or others; engaging in offensive conduct in that he used insulting words, and engaging in threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with the intent of provoking a breach of the peace.

    He is also summonsed for distributing "a writing" which was threatening, abusive, insulting or obscene with the intent of provoking a breach of the peace at Kilkenny Garda Station, also on October 10th.




    Weird guy to be relying on for sure: (long usenet thread, Druidic murder plots and threatening some Wiccan with "sneaky, piggy eyes" and Sex Paradise promised/rejected)
    Aye, great source material to be quoting!


    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.religion.druid/FnWZjZn9ck8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    She has been labeled newstalk had to apologize to her.




    Yeah that's some libel all right. An interviewee (ie not a political journalist) made some half-assed comments live on air. At the same time, the Newstalk employee pulled them up on it and said "you can't be saying that sort of thing" and now the station reiterates exactly what its employee had already said!!

    Major evidence of conspiracy there :rolleyes:

    Any evidence I have seen for the statement that she is "batshyt (sic) crazy" comes from her own youtube page. The woman is a drooling lunatic, in my humble opinion which I am not suggesting any of you share, unless of course you check her out for yourselves and come to a similar conclusion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    rgossip30 wrote: »
    You think Fiona O Leary is normal .
    I think Fiona O Leary is genuine. She has autism. A lot of her children have autism. Because she doesnt agree with anti vax sh ite and "treating" autism with bleach she has been disgustingly harassed, bullied and threatened by Gemma and Gemmas supporters.

    Gemmas supporters are absolute crazed lunatics.

    Lets face it - Gemmas rhetoric could potentially end up with seeing an Irish incident like Utoya, Christchurch or Batley and Spen.

    People talk about ISIS and Muslim rasicalising. The cold hard truth is that Gemma and her ilk are radicalising people too.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    I think Fiona O Leary is genuine. She has autism. A lot of her children have autism. Because she doesnt agree with anti vax sh ite and "treating" autism with bleach she has been disgustingly harassed, bullied and threatened by Gemma and Gemmas supporters.

    Gemmas supporters are absolute crazed lunatics.

    Lets face it - Gemmas rhetoric could potentially end up with seeing an Irish incident like Utoya, Christchurch or Batley and Spen.

    People talk about ISIS and Muslim rasicalising. The cold hard truth is that Gemma and her ilk are radicalising people too.
    The people who are targeting Fiona as a result of Gemma's rhetoric have some utterly warped views on autism btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,660 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Fieldog wrote: »
    The Kilkenny journal is written by this mad scone btw :

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/druid-accused-of-disorderly-acts-1.105454

    .

    I wouldn't normally use an phoblacht as a source, but they have a good rundown of his several decades of nonsense;

    https://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/26034


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭musiknonstop


    rgossip30 wrote: »
    You think Fiona O Leary is normal .

    Considerably more normal than the twisted nasty creature that Gemma had become. Has she overcome her fear of unicorns yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    I wouldn't normally use an phoblacht as a source, but they have a good rundown of his several decades of nonsense;

    https://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/26034

    Excellent,

    I'll allow this one For Forks Sake - sure one of the other posters is trying to use KK journal as gospel so An Phoblacht probably isn't that bad in hindsight...

    This lad is as mad as a box of frog's...


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Well, Sligo's fukced. Apparently.


    Gemma's had a breeze about the town and doesn't like what she sees. She gave a, not uncharacteristically, long winded shrill rant on a beach about the demise of rural Ireland and Sligo ain't fitting in with her Retro-topian view of how things should be. Far too many Burqas and buildings going on for her liking.

    A marxist globalist cabal is planning on concreting over the Wild Atlantic Way too.

    And Drew Harris is a bollox.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    Gemma is saying today that Emmet Malone's phone was seized by the Gardai. Can't find any mention of this anywhere else?

    (He was the journalist who reported on the evictions in Strokestown).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,660 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Gemma is saying today that Emmet Malone's phone was seized by the Gardai. Can't find any mention of this anywhere else?

    (He was the journalist who reported on the evictions in Strokestown).

    Much like our friend in Kilkenny, he's about as much a journalist as I am an astronaut.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    I think Fiona O Leary is genuine. She has autism. A lot of her children have autism. Because she doesnt agree with anti vax sh ite and "treating" autism with bleach she has been disgustingly harassed, bullied and threatened by Gemma and Gemmas supporters.

    Gemmas supporters are absolute crazed lunatics.

    Lets face it - Gemmas rhetoric could potentially end up with seeing an Irish incident like Utoya, Christchurch or Batley and Spen.

    People talk about ISIS and Muslim rasicalising. The cold hard truth is that Gemma and her ilk are radicalising people too.




    Nonsense Gemma's followers are not going around getting legitimate public meetings shut down.

    There is a much bigger terror threat from left wing fascists than there is from any so called far right (ie normal people who are concerned with the direction the country is going.)

    We have already seen AFA far left thugs here beat up the leader of legitimate political party.

    Yet there wasn't a whiff of condemnation from the left when this appalling attack happened.

    The Gardas need to watch these people they pose a clear and present danger to democracy and will end up killing someone if they are not stopped.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    Nonsense Gemma's followers are not going around getting legitimate public meetings shut down.

    There is a much bigger terror threat from left wing fascists than there is from any so called far right (ie normal people who are concerned with the direction the country is going.)

    We have already seen AFA far left thugs here beat up the leader of legitimate political party.

    Yet there wasn't a whiff of condemnation from the left when this appalling attack happened.

    The Gardas need to watch these people they pose a clear and present danger to democracy and will end up killing someone if they are not stopped.



    As I said before, the left (fanatic left, not normal lad, low information left) is made up of low status people who have been given an artificially high level of status, as a result of living in a progressive, liberal society.

    If there is a right wing insurgence in a country, then these low status people will lose their money, their jobs and their social standing. They will do anything to hold on to this, and this includes violence, clamping down on freedom of speech, etc.

    The Irish Times will be promoting clamping down on freedom of speech and censoring the internet, if they haven't done so already, in the near future.

    There are more low status people on the left willing to go nuts than right. So the violence will come from that side more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    As I said before, the left (fanatic left, not normal lad, low information left) is made up of low status people who have been given an artificially high level of status, as a result of living in a progressive, liberal society.

    If there is a right wing insurgence in a country, then these low status people will lose their money, their jobs and their social standing. They will do anything to hold on to this, and this includes violence, clamping down on freedom of speech, etc.

    The Irish Times will be promoting clamping down on freedom of speech and censoring the internet, if they haven't done so already, in the near future.

    There are more low status people on the left willing to go nuts than right. So the violence will come from that side more.




    Can you imagine the out cry there would be if a group of "far right" thugs attacked the leader of legitimate political party ? we would rightly never hear the end of it. But when its far left thugs there is a deafening silence from the establishment.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    As I said before, the left (fanatic left, not normal lad, low information left) is made up of low status people who have been given an artificially high level of status, as a result of living in a progressive, liberal society.

    If there is a right wing insurgence in a country, then these low status people will lose their money, their jobs and their social standing. They will do anything to hold on to this, and this includes violence, clamping down on freedom of speech, etc.

    The Irish Times will be promoting clamping down on freedom of speech and censoring the internet, if they haven't done so already, in the near future.

    There are more low status people on the left willing to go nuts than right. So the violence will come from that side more.
    Not sure what you mean by 'low status'... My job is unlikely to be taken off of me any time soon unless I choose to leave so not very worried about what reads like a pretty disturbed rant.

    Anyway, where do you stand on white supremacy? Similarly to Dr Brown?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    Nonsense Gemma's followers are not going around getting legitimate public meetings shut down.

    There is a much bigger terror threat from left wing fascists than there is from any so called far right (ie normal people who are concerned with the direction the country is going.)

    We have already seen AFA far left thugs here beat up the leader of legitimate political party.

    Yet there wasn't a whiff of condemnation from the left when this appalling attack happened.

    The Gardas need to watch these people they pose a clear and present danger to democracy and will end up killing someone if they are not stopped.

    Thats more bullsh it bingo deflection phrases for you to add Bannasidhe

    *But "left wing" fascists
    *But AFA
    *But free speech
    *But left violence
    *But the kilkenny journal
    *But but but Mary Boyle

    Gemma is now beyond defensible and it really is about scrabbling around to find any old sh ite to deflect.

    I mean this kind of deflection wants to deny that Gemma is radicalising people to make death threats against Angela Merkel and Fiona O'Leary, to deny the vast similarities between what Gemma says and the Christchurch manifesto.

    Why are you trying to deny that Gemma is a far right radicalising force Dr Brown?
    Why are you ok with Fiona O'Leary being harassed and bullied and threatened Dr Brown?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    batgoat wrote: »
    Not sure what you mean by 'low status'... My job is unlikely to be taken off of me any time soon unless I choose to leave so not very worried about what reads like a pretty disturbed rant.

    Anyway, where do you stand on white supremacy? Similarly to Dr Brown?

    People who are dumb, unattractive, poor, lack of social skills, homosexuals, minorities in terms of race, highly intelligent autists, mentally ill. Outsiders in general.

    You sell these people the "it's not your fault, its men/heterosexuals/whites/the patriarchy/this evil system" and these people will be unbelievably loyal to you, because its all they have.

    Most people are apolitical and don't give a fùck about politics left/right, unless they're fired from their job. Or can't afford a house.

    The people who are genuinely interested in politics are outliers, for various reasons.

    I think white supremacy is bullshìt and evil. And I think it's easy to refute.

    Whites invented nuclear bombs and destroyed millions of lives by acting like cùnts in the banking sector. Blacks and muslims didn't do that. Whites also were great at killing each other in droves in two big 20th Century wars. Some master race you have there.

    Some groups are better at some things than others. Depends on your metric.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    People who are dumb, unattractive, poor, lack of social skills, homosexuals, minorities in terms of race, highly intelligent autists, mentally ill. Outsiders in general.

    You sell these people the "it's not your fault, its men/heterosexuals/whites/the patriarchy/this evil system" and these people will be unbelievably loyal to you, because its all they have.

    Most people are apolitical and don't give a fùck about politics left/right, unless they're fired from their job. Or can't afford a house.

    The people who are genuinely interested in politics are outliers, for various reasons.

    I think white supremacy is bullshìt and evil. And I think it's easy to refute.

    Whites invented nuclear bombs and destroyed millions of lives by acting like cùnts in the banking sector. Blacks and muslims didn't do that. Whites also were great at killing each other in droves in two big 20th Century wars. Some master race you have there.

    Some groups are better at some things than others. Depends on your metric.

    Okay, so your views are effectively that of Nazi Germany based on your low status definition. Thanks for clearing that up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Thats more bullsh it bingo deflection phrases for you to add Bannasidhe

    *But "left wing" fascists
    *But AFA
    *But free speech
    *But left violence
    *But the kilkenny journal
    *But but but Mary Boyle

    Gemma is now beyond defensible and it really is about scrabbling around to find any old sh ite to deflect.

    I mean this kind of deflection wants to deny that Gemma is radicalising people to make death threats against Angela Merkel and Fiona O'Leary, to deny the vast similarities between what Gemma says and the Christchurch manifesto.

    Why are you trying to deny that Gemma is a far right radicalising force Dr Brown?
    Why are you ok with Fiona O'Leary being harassed and bullied and threatened Dr Brown?




    I don't know how you can say Gemma is "far right" when she has defended the "rights" of asylum seekers.


    I don't agree with anyone being harassed or bullied including Gemma.


    Do you condemn the attack on the leader of Identity Ireland or was that ok because he was "far right" ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,156 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    People who are dumb, unattractive, poor, lack of social skills, homosexuals, minorities in terms of race, highly intelligent autists, mentally ill. Outsiders in general.

    Well this thread just keeps giving :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    I don't know how you can say Gemma is "far right" when she has defended the "rights" of asylum seekers.


    I don't agree with anyone being harassed or bullied including Gemma.


    Do you condemn the attack on the leader of Identity Ireland or was that ok because he was "far right" ?

    Yes of course

    Why are you trying to deny that Gemma is a far right radicalising force?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Yes of course

    Why are you trying to deny that Gemma is a far right radicalising force?




    I've never heard of any "far right" people who support asylum seekers.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Well this thread just keeps giving :pac:

    I'm beginning to think some were dropped to many times when still babies, either that or its a case of daddy didn't love me and mammy didn't breast feed me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    I've never heard of any "far right" people who support asylum seekers.

    Why are you trying to deny that Gemma is a far right radicalising force?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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