When did Gemma O Doherty go batshyt crazy?

batgoat

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I never claimed to be a doctor, I just said the Gradasil vaccine in its current form is dangerous. Feel free to vaccinate your own kids.

Then show us a reputable safety report or study that backs your claim up.

PhoneMain wrote: »

Ah here, I'm done. Keep firing personal insults at me but you know what, if you presented yourself to me as being sick, I'd treat you as well as I treat any other patient who attends me.

You actually haven't a clue what you're on about but the frustrating thing about dealing with the likes of you is that you think you're more informed than everyone else and that everyone else is wrong. You're a bit like the title subject above, if you're against her you're just some part of a corrupt system. Black and White, no grey.

I've exams to be studying for. Good luck.

He thinks everything is a global conspiracy. So being put down by him is a compliment.

In relation to the dregs of doctors. I've been in and out of hospitals for much of the last decade. This is basically to maintain remission with crohns. My new gp is superb. My last consultant trained for a time in the Mayo institute. My current is incredibly good as well. Both actively engage in research. So ya, we have superb doctors in the country.

skooterblue2

PhoneMain wrote: »

Before I go. First of all, uncorruberated anecdotal situation you've presented. SEcond of all, Geriatric specialist? Was he not in hospital when he saw her? Geriatricians are hospital consultants. Third of all, Upper GI swallowing difficulties sound like a surgical issue, not treated medically generally. Fourth: I'd be shocked that this farmer (if this situation actually exists) wouldn't have got a full physical exam including cardiac, resp, gi & neuro exam, a full blood work up including FBC, U&E, CRP, LFTS, TFTs, Iron studies, Cholesterol. Maybe a holter monitor or 24hour bp monitor. Then maybe an upper GI endoscopy. I'd be very surprised if anyone was told "its in your head".

Anyway, I don't have time for this. later buddy.

It was treated and diagnosed as Mystenias Gravis. It was treated with strong steroids and Mestinon. PM sent with details.

blackwhite

This thread really has turned into a fascinating insight into just how batshit crazy Gemma's followers are as well.

skooterblue2

batgoat wrote: »

Then show us a reputable safety report or study that backs your claim up.

Show a long term study of Gardasil

batgoat

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Show a long term study of Gardasil

Here's one over 6 years.. It was one of numerous safety reports that the WHO cite. Also since you claim it can happen within hours, you should be able to provide loads of proof.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896841116302141

ohnonotgmail

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Show a long term study of Gardasil

what are the bets that you would immediately reject any studies done because "Big Pharma"?

skooterblue2

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what are the bets that you would immediately reject any studies done because "Big Pharma"?

Its not in Mercks to do a study on it or make it public. To do a real pharma sized study you need a sample size of "30,000" of that 30k you need to have less than 1 in 10,000 incidents. If I offered a quantitive report (500 approx) you would say it is too small to make quantitative report or I was cherry picking cases.

Guess we are at a stalemate. You have no idea of the amount of paper work, red tape, money, time and effort that goes into an investigation and it could just end up mothballed and sent to archives. I have worked for big pharma and I have no problem with it. Probably will go back in two years again. I use loads of toiletries and medical devices all my life. I am not some smelly hippy.

ohnonotgmail

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Its not in Mercks to do a study on it or make it public. To do a real pharma sized study you need a sample size of "30,000" of that 30k you need to have less than 1 in 10,000 incidents. If I offered a quantitive report (500 approx) you would say it is too small to make quantitative report or I was cherry picking cases.

Guess we are at a stalemate. You have no idea of the amount of paper work, red tape, money, time and effort that goes into an investigation and it could just end up mothballed and sent to archives. I have worked for big pharma and I have no problem with it. Probably will go back in two years again. I use loads of toiletries and medical devices all my life. I am not some smelly hippy.

i am curious as well as to why you now insist on a long term study. All the problems you say that occur with gardasil occurred not very long after the administration of the vaccine. what long term issues do you think there are?

skooterblue2

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i am curious as well as to why you now insist on a long term study. All the problems you say that occur with gardasil occurred not very long after the administration of the vaccine. what long term issues do you think there are?

I didnt "insist" on a long term study but any medicine, from concept to market takes 10 years. Its starts with a herbalist/microbiologist and progresses forwards to development, production trials, alpha trials, beta trials, etc etc to market. All the time with FDA.TUV/other regulating body watching.

I would see problems with any drug that is sure thing. that the side effects are dampened down or there are no side effects. I think it will either emerge as fertility problems. I think some of these REGRET girls are going through early menopause at 15.

ohnonotgmail

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I didnt "insist" on a long term study but any medicine, from concept to market takes 10 years. Its starts with a herbalist/microbiologist and progresses forwards to development, production trials, alpha trials, beta trials, etc etc to market. All the time with FDA.TUV/other regulating body watching.

I would see problems with any drug that is sure thing. that the side effects are dampened down or there are no side effects. I think it will either emerge as fertility problems. I think some of these REGRET girls are going through early menopause at 15.

well here is one study as a starting point. It is even has the magical 30,000 population in the vaccine group and a similar size control group.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4262378/

Snickers Man

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Not Countries, Nations.
Loads of countries in the developed world are below 1.8.
1.8 is the point of no-return for a population. The population of that nation is in a down ward spiral.

Where are you going with this line of argument? Are you suggesting that people born here of, say, an Irish father (which we will define for the purposes of argument as a man born in this country and whose parents were both born in this country) and, say, an Italian mother are not really Irish?

Or does it only apply if one of the parents has a slightly darker skin pigmentation?

In which case I would ask you how certain you are of your own heritage?
Do you know the original surnames of both your parents? (Most people would say yes to that)
Do you know the original surnames of all four of your grandparents (Most people would say yes to that too)
How about your eight great grandparents? (Not sure that everybody could do that)
How about your sixteen great great grandparents? I think I am doing well to be able to name 12 of mine, but the other four are a mystery. And that only takes me back to people born in the middle of the 19th century. Which is the blink of an eye in human terms.

How do I know that early ancestors were all Irish? I don't. I can surmise indeed that many of them weren't, although some certainly were. Among the names of direct ancestors in my family tree are people with unmistakably Gaelic names but there are quite a few Anglo-Norman surnames in there too. Hardly surprisingly. Such people have been here for 800 years.

I would guess that most "Irish" people have similar mixed ancestry. And that's before you start including more recent arrivals such as people with names like Abrahamson and Shatter or the likes of Forte, Mizzoni and Cafolla.

How do I know that some of my ancestors weren't rapacious Cromwellian soldiers? Or Hessian mercenaries in the 18th century? Or Viking slavers in medieval times? I don't. There's every chance one or more of them were.

A "nation" is only a product of the imagination. When you get down to definitions, differences between one and another are infinitesimally trite.

Like so what if we have a few Raducioius and Da Silvas in our gene pool in years to come? Not to mention the odd Lumumba, Kaunda and Muzorewa. Mankind is a migratory species. Get used to it.

Billy86

This thread went from being an amusing insight into the paranoia of Gemma and some of her followers, into being actually kind of depressing. Some people in this thread really are coming over like they could use some genuine help.

lbc2019

Billy86 wrote: »

This thread went from being an amusing insight into the paranoia of Gemma and some of her followers, into being actually kind of depressing. Some people in this thread really are coming over like they could use some genuine help.

Its frightening

debok

Billy86 wrote: »

This thread went from being an amusing insight into the paranoia of Gemma and some of her followers, into being actually kind of depressing. Some people in this thread really are coming over like they could use some genuine help.

I asked a while back what has this to do with Gemma o Doherty? It's gone way off topic.

skooterblue2

Snickers Man wrote: »

Where are you going with this line of argument? Are you suggesting that people born here of, say, an Irish father (which we will define for the purposes of argument as a man born in this country and whose parents were both born in this country) and, say, an Italian mother are not really Irish?

Or does it only apply if one of the parents has a slightly darker skin pigmentation?

In which case I would ask you how certain you are of your own heritage?
Do you know the original surnames of both your parents? (Most people would say yes to that)
Do you know the original surnames of all four of your grandparents (Most people would say yes to that too)
How about your eight great grandparents? (Not sure that everybody could do that)
How about your sixteen great great grandparents? I think I am doing well to be able to name 12 of mine, but the other four are a mystery. And that only takes me back to people born in the middle of the 19th century. Which is the blink of an eye in human terms.

How do I know that early ancestors were all Irish? I don't. I can surmise indeed that many of them weren't, although some certainly were. Among the names of direct ancestors in my family tree are people with unmistakably Gaelic names but there are quite a few Anglo-Norman surnames in there too. Hardly surprisingly. Such people have been here for 800 years.

I would guess that most "Irish" people have similar mixed ancestry. And that's before you start including more recent arrivals such as people with names like Abrahamson and Shatter or the likes of Forte, Mizzoni and Cafolla.

How do I know that some of my ancestors weren't rapacious Cromwellian soldiers? Or Hessian mercenaries in the 18th century? Or Viking slavers in medieval times? I don't. There's every chance one or more of them were.

A "nation" is only a product of the imagination. When you get down to definitions, differences between one and another are infinitesimally trite.

Like so what if we have a few Raducioius and Da Silvas in our gene pool in years to come? Not to mention the odd Lumumba, Kaunda and Muzorewa. Mankind is a migratory species. Get used to it.

Well that is quite a lot of muddying of the waters there so to speak.
You know where you least racist people? in monocultures.
You know where you have the most violence and aggression? Where you put two or more very different cultures together.

I love your logic, now if you could only pack that logic and take it back in time. Back to when the Europeans landed in Americas. "We are going to mix it all up and it s going to be grand".
Or when the British landed in Australia? How them Aborigines come out on top of that deal?

A nation is a set of people with a common sense of history, culture and values. You destroy the culture, the history and scatter the people. They cannot unite or organise and then you can enslave them.

I look at the Irish nation, sold out for magic beans and enslaved by debt and an invisible government in Europe, with an unelected leader and it is the end of democracy and citizens rights silenced by political correctness.

batgoat

You're accusing other people of muddying the waters...... This does a fine job of highlighting the type of person Gemma appeals to though.

skooterblue2

batgoat wrote: »

You're accusing other people of muddying the waters...... This does a fine job of highlighting the type of person Gemma appeals to though.

Can you name the the definitive head of the European Union or his or her role and title? Cos I sure as hell cant
Can you tell me what went on in the European Parliament today?

Ipso

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Well that is quite a lot of muddying of the waters there so to speak.
You know where you least racist people? in monocultures.
You know where you have the most violence and aggression? Where you put two or more very different cultures together.

I love your logic, now if you could only pack that logic and take it back in time. Back to when the Europeans landed in Americas. "We are going to mix it all up and it s going to be grand".
Or when the British landed in Australia? How them Aborigines come out on top of that deal?

A nation is a set of people with a common sense of history, culture and values. You destroy the culture, the history and scatter the people. They cannot unite or organise and then you can enslave them.

I look at the Irish nation, sold out for magic beans and enslaved by debt and an invisible government in Europe, with an unelected leader and it is the end of democracy and citizens rights silenced by political correctness.

So Ireland’s problems have nothing to do with the greed during the celtic bubble?
Always easier to blame someone else.

skooterblue2

Ipso wrote: »

So Ireland’s problems have nothing to do with the greed during the celtic bubble?
Always easier to blame someone else.

Yup you will find that it is the Irish that are being blamed for the Irish banking crisis. And truth there is a drop of truth in it. The real truth is that the Irish Banks were sold AAA bonds by German and French banks that were linked to American Equities. That is the real truth. You will find that most stable interests were not shaken by domestic events but rather investments they had in foreign portfolios in high risk ventures. You will find due to weak leadership we agreed to much more than our fair share of European banking crisis.

batgoat

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Can you name the the definitive head of the European Union or his or her role and title? Cos I sure as hell cant
Can you tell me what went on in the European Parliament today?

You can literally watch the entire session in the European Parliament, it's separated by discussion on the European Parliament website.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/plenary/en/debates-video.html

What is the negative impact of no definitive head? The institutions have presidents, so the two executives have a president each. And the legislature has its own president. We are represented in the EU and we elect our representatives, it's literally operating as a democracy....

skooterblue2

batgoat wrote: »

You can literally watch the entire session in the European Parliament, it's separated by discussion on the European Parliament website.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/plenary/en/debates-video.html

What is the negative impact of no definitive head? The institutions have presidents, so the two executives have a president each. And the legislature has its own president. We are represented in the EU and we elect our representatives, it's literally operating as a democracy....

And who was negotiation for the Irish interests at Brexit?
Let me refresh your memory:
"Ireland will be represented at the highest level at these negotiations" Enda Kenny.
There was no Irish negotiator at the Brexit talks. Britain is our closest ally, culturally, historically and commercially. I seem to find that all the control lies in the hand of the Germans, French and Italians. That is hardly looking after Irish interests.

Odhinn

skooterblue2 wrote: »

And who was negotiation for the Irish interests at Brexit?
Let me refresh your memory:
"Ireland will be represented at the highest level at these negotiations" Enda Kenny.
There was no Irish negotiator at the Brexit talks. Britain is our closest ally, culturally, historically and commercially. I seem to find that all the control lies in the hand of the Germans, French and Italians. That is hardly looking after Irish interests.

The EU was representing us, it being the European union and we being members. Certainly it wasn't the Brits.


The bit in bold is just laughable at this stage.

skooterblue2

Odhinn wrote: »

The EU was representing us, it being the European union and we being members. Certainly it wasn't the Brits.


The bit in bold is just laughable at this stage.

So we had no Irish delegation negotiating Irish interests?
Remember the last time you had a dispute? Did you look after it yourself or did you get someone else to do it and come back and tell you how they got on?
Britain was there for us during the currency crisis, they provided part of the loan at a low rate better than what the ECB was offering.
Culturally Britain and Ireland are all speaking the same language. If the Germans had their way Europe would all be speaking German post 1942.
Commercially, most of our trade is done with Britain, more so than any single member of the European union.

Odhinn

skooterblue2 wrote: »

So we had no Irish delegation negotiating Irish interests?
Remember the last time you had a dispute? Did you look after it yourself or did you get someone else to do it and come back and tell you how they got on?
Britain was there for us during the currency crisis, they provided part of the loan at a low rate better than what the ECB was offering.
Culturally Britain and Ireland are all speaking the same language. If the Germans had their way Europe would all be speaking German post 1942.
Commercially, most of our trade is done with Britain, more so than any single member of the European union.

If you can't understand the concept of the EU there's not much hope for you.







O Noes!!!!!


They couldn't give a shite what happens to this country.

skooterblue2

Odhinn wrote: »

If you can't understand the concept of the EU there's not much hope for you.

O Noes!!!!!


They couldn't give a shite what happens to this country.

I am sure if you painted the credit crisis in a different light and the Chinese came in and developed the proposed airport for Tipperary town or a new shipping port for Cobh, they might have concerns then. This is going on all over Africa at the minute by the way by the Chinese.

Also we sell most of our exported food to Britain as their population cannot feed itself domestically.

I would consider secure chain supply food the next biggest thing after a source of clean water.

Odhinn

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I am sure if you painted the credit crisis in a different light and the Chinese came in and developed the proposed airport for Tipperary town or a new shipping port for Cobh, they might have concerns then. This is going on all over Africa at the minute by the way by the Chinese.

................

There's probably some point buried in there, but I confess my inability to work out what it is.

Annasopra

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I have met ye all before. You cover up for each other and the quality you are being produced at we would be better off with African witch doctors. Would you like me to recall the headlines from the last few years?

"We were aware when hiring a doctor there were issues with her registration in Germany"
"Doctor couldnt tell the difference between an xray of an elbow and an xray"
Doctor Lee down in Ballincollig tried to cover up a terminally ill patients file when it was found out he failed to read a report. The affore mentioned doctor is still practicing.
I have see 6 doctors fail to spot Mystenia Gravis and then all supported each other.
Dr Michael Neary....... needs no more comment. The three doctors who vindicated him.

Them witch doctors are starting to looking surprisingly competent with their feathers and bones.

You forgot the "big pharma" bullshbingo buzzword

Annasopra

skooterblue2 wrote: »

So we had no Irish delegation negotiating Irish interests?
Remember the last time you had a dispute? Did you look after it yourself or did you get someone else to do it and come back and tell you how they got on?
Britain was there for us during the currency crisis, they provided part of the loan at a low rate better than what the ECB was offering.
Culturally Britain and Ireland are all speaking the same language. If the Germans had their way Europe would all be speaking German post 1942.
Commercially, most of our trade is done with Britain, more so than any single member of the European union.

Dont forget the bullshbingo buzzword
Something Nazi/Third Reich EUSSR

skooterblue2

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

You forgot the "big pharma" bullshbingo buzzword

Once again, My issue isnt with the Pharmaceuticals it is how they are prescribed. Any Pharmacist will tell you they save doctors careers on a weekly basis. You carry on my son with what ever narrative that suits yourself

wingsof daun

Snickers Man wrote: »

A "nation" is only a product of the imagination. When you get down to definitions, differences between one and another are infinitesimally trite.

Like so what if we have a few Raducioius and Da Silvas in our gene pool in years to come? Not to mention the odd Lumumba, Kaunda and Muzorewa. Mankind is a migratory species. Get used to it.

If the German soldier's thought they had "no" nation they would never have went to war with the Soviet Union. What else was unifying them? Blood yes but that expands outward to community and country (i.e. nation). Pride in one's country played a grand part (as it always did for hundreds maybe thousands of years). You could argue Russia and Germany had many links but there was a vastly different ideology. Russia was, in fact, propping up a disgusting communist system, and, as history points out, Nazi Germany waged all out war on that system and they were "right" to stand up for Europe when no one else would have been capable.

batgoat

An actual Nazi has entered the thread.... So telling..

Mrs Shuttleworth

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Dont forget the bullshbingo buzzword
Something Nazi/Third Reich EUSSR

I can't believe a moderator would post something as offensive and ridiculous.

No wonder people are laughing at Boards.ie on other sites.

Snickers Man

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Can you name the the definitive head of the European Union or his or her role and title? Cos I sure as hell cant

That's cause there isn't one. The head of the European Council is Donald Tusk. The Head of the Commission is Jean Claude Junker. Neither of them is the "definitive head of the European Union" because no such role exists. The powers of the Commission, Council and Parliament are all tightly defined and LIMITED. Most real power, apart from an agreed level playing field of rules, is still held by the individual sovereign states.
It's called separation of powers.
Or democracy if you prefer.

Snickers Man

wingsof daun wrote: »

If the German soldier's thought they had "no" nation they would never have went to war with the Soviet Union.

"Thought" is the operative word here. Like I said, a nation is a product of the imagination.

The rest of your post I'm really not going to engage with.

Hotblack Desiato

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

I can't believe a moderator would post something as offensive and ridiculous.

No wonder people are laughing at Boards.ie on other sites.

It's called sarcasm. Try reading it again. :rolleyes:

Hotblack Desiato

skooterblue2 wrote: »

There was no Irish negotiator at the Brexit talks.

The negotiator's mandate was in effect written by Ireland.

Anyway. You can't negotiate effectively with people who don't know what they want (Britain) and can't deliver on anything they do agree on (Britain again.)

BBFAN

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Well that is quite a lot of muddying of the waters there so to speak.
You know where you least racist people? in monocultures.
You know where you have the most violence and aggression? Where you put two or more very different cultures together.

I love your logic, now if you could only pack that logic and take it back in time. Back to when the Europeans landed in Americas. "We are going to mix it all up and it s going to be grand".
Or when the British landed in Australia? How them Aborigines come out on top of that deal?

A nation is a set of people with a common sense of history, culture and values. You destroy the culture, the history and scatter the people. They cannot unite or organise and then you can enslave them.

I look at the Irish nation, sold out for magic beans and enslaved by debt and an invisible government in Europe, with an unelected leader and it is the end of democracy and citizens rights silenced by political correctness.

This has got to be the most bat**** crazy post I've ever read on Boards and that's saying something!!!

lbc2019

https://twitter.com/conjwalsh/status/1093293946984456192?s=21

lbc2019

https://twitter.com/newsworthy_ie/status/1095319195846365184?s=21

Nurse! She is at it again! Nurse!

pumpkin4life

Odhinn

lbc2019 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newsworthy_ie/status/1095319195846365184?s=21

Nurse! She is at it again! Nurse!

I feel guilty for laughin at this stage.

pumpkin4life

She and a bunch of other lads broke into Google Headquarters just now.

She's streaming live on Facebook right now:

https://www.facebook.com/100011070254271/videos/743618426017159/

Timberrrrrrrr

She's live on FB now from Google HQ, Hopefully guards move in soon and feck them out for trespassing.

Timberrrrrrrr

Some hairy gobsh/te complaining that Google have the heat on full blast to try and get them.out:pac:

mzungu

pumpkin4life wrote: »

She and a bunch of other lads broke into Google Headquarters just now.

She's streaming live on Facebook right now:

https://www.facebook.com/100011070254271/videos/743618426017159/

Out of morbid curiosity, I looked at her Twitter. I think part of the reason she is occupying Google HQ is because Youtube suspended her channel!!

deecom

Who???

Timberrrrrrrr

She's live again and actually said the words "we're fighting a war" :pac:

Noveight

I've said it before and I'll say it again;

Bring back baton charges.

Riesen_Meal

https://twitter.com/DumbartonOne/status/1095388645572440064?s=20

Birneybau

pumpkin4life wrote: »

That dude is Grand Turino, a nasty piece of work