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Hard Knocks

Hurling Hereford wrote: »

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patsy_mccabe

Watched the cows today when I was moving them to a bit of grass. Most of them did a poop when they stood up. Gathering sh1te won't be a problem.

Grueller

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Watched the cows today when I was moving them to a bit of grass. Most of them did a poop when they stood up. Gathering sh1te won't be a problem.

How will they know who did what sh1te. We hardly have to genomic tag the sh1te now too?

tanko

Grueller wrote: »

How will they know who did what sh1te. We hardly have to genomic tag the sh1te now too?

The dung samples don't have to be linked to specific cows afaik.

Am i right in saying that all cows have to be weighed this year including the cows that were weighed last year?

ABitofsense

tanko wrote: »

The dung samples don't have to be linked to specific cows afaik.

The specs read as if the sample needs to be labelled for each cow though

Sugarbowl

tanko wrote: »

Am i right in saying that all cows have to be weighed this year including the cows that were weighed last year?

Yeah all cows have to be weighed again

Anto_Meath

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Yeah all cows have to be weighed again

Ye for anyone that has signed up if you look at the list of cows to be weighed its all cows that calved since the 1st July, even if they were weighed last year.

Justjens

Got a quote from Animal Health Labs for faecal testing at €25 a poop, container/post included.

Seems we have to do 10 samples regardless of herd size, that leaves about fifty quid for my time scooping ****e, anyone else get a quote for the testing.

tanko

Justjens wrote: »

Got a quote from Animal Health Labs for faecal testing at €25 a poop, container/post included.

Seems we have to do 10 samples regardless of herd size, that leaves about fifty quid for my time scooping ****e, anyone else get a quote for the testing.

25 yoyos a poop really is taking the pi$$, i wonder how much they were charging before this scheme?
I see Oldcastle Labs on the list, must give them a ring on Monday.

High bike

tanko wrote: »

25 yoyos a poop really is taking the pi$$, i wonder how much they were charging before this scheme?
I see Oldcastle Labs on the list, must give them a ring on Monday.

where did u get the list of labs?

tanko

High bike wrote: »

where did u get the list of labs?

agriculture.gov.ie/beep-s
Down the bottom of the page

High bike

tanko wrote: »

agriculture.gov.ie/beep-s
Down the bottom of the page

sound thanks 1st year in it so just getting the hang of it.Thats some RIP off 25e a sh1t:D

893bet

Justjens wrote: »

Got a quote from Animal Health Labs for faecal testing at €25 a poop, container/post included.

Seems we have to do 10 samples regardless of herd size, that leaves about fifty quid for my time scooping ****e, anyone else get a quote for the testing.

Are you required to prove that you dosed then in accordance with the results?

Lime Tree Farm

Might be able to shop around : here's one for a start.

https://www.farmlab.ie/product/beep-scheme-kit/

tanko

High bike wrote: »

sound thanks 1st year in it so just getting the hang of it.Thats some RIP off 25e a sh1t:D

Are you sure it's not €25 for ten samples?

Lime Tree Farm

tanko wrote: »

agriculture.gov.ie/beep-s
Down the bottom of the page

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/farmingschemesandpayments/beep/RevisedApprovedLaboratorieslist08052020.pdf

tanko

893bet wrote: »

Are you required to prove that you dosed then in accordance with the results?

It says to discuss results with your vet and record what you treated your cows with then.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Justjens wrote: »

Got a quote from Animal Health Labs for faecal testing at €25 a poop, container/post included.

Seems we have to do 10 samples regardless of herd size, that leaves about fifty quid for my time scooping ****e, anyone else get a quote for the testing.

Where's there's muck, there's money.

Just not for the farmer:(

Base price

tanko wrote: »

25 yoyos a poop really is taking the pi$$, i wonder how much they were charging before this scheme?
I see Oldcastle Labs on the list, must give them a ring on Monday.

I got an email from them during the week saying that they are one of the approved labs and stating that "testing could cost as little as €1 per sample, giving you maximum profit of €9 per animal tested"

"Full payment for testing (and/or kits and courier) must be paid in full prior to testing commencing."
Contact them for more information.

893bet

Base price wrote: »

I got an email from them during the week saying that they are one of the approved labs and stating that "testing could cost as little as €1 per sample, giving you maximum profit of €9 per animal tested"

"Full payment for testing (and/or kits and courier) must be paid in full prior to testing commencing."
Contact them for more information.

I rang one of the labs (I think Kerry one) and they said 15 a sample test (plus the cost of the containers etc).

Hard to see one place doing it for a euro and another for 15-20. Something not adding up!

pure breed

Base price wrote:

I got an email from them during the week saying that they are one of the approved labs and stating that "testing could cost as little as €1 per sample, giving you maximum profit of €9 per animal tested"

Is this Oldcastle Labs that quoted you €1 per sample?? Thanks

High bike

tanko wrote: »

Are you sure it's not €25 for ten samples?

Don’t know that’s what a previous poster said,25 for 10 samples sounds about right

Justjens

tanko wrote: »

25 yoyos a poop really is taking the pi$$, i wonder how much they were charging before this scheme?
I see Oldcastle Labs on the list, must give them a ring on Monday.

Pretty sure it was €25 a pop and I was to do 10, easy to check next week.

I was a bit lost for words so I may have taken them up wrong, but it's hard to see them charging €25 for the lot when they include containers and shipping costs (both ways I think).

If anyone else gets a better quote let us know ;)

Hard Knocks

Justjens wrote: »

Pretty sure it was €25 a pop and I was to do 10, easy to check next week.

I was a bit lost for words so I may have taken them up wrong, but it's hard to see them charging €25 for the lot when they include containers and shipping costs (both ways I think).

If anyone else gets a better quote let us know ;)

I think from what I got it’s €25 for 10 cows
You send in 10 samples & 2 are tested

Lime Tree Farm

This is the Irish Equine Science Lab 2019 price list, go to Page 14 - Bovine faecal testing - Fluke and Rumen fluke:

Fluke egg screen (Liver and Rumen Fluke)
Egg counts are not reported for fluke screen
1 – 2 days for result €12.50

http://www.irishequinecentre.ie/Content/pdf/IEC%20FULL%20Price%20List%20March%202019%20FINAL.pdf

Hurling Hereford

According to the Dept's website, the laboratories for dung sample testing are;

Irish Equine Centre, Naas
Animal Health Laboratories Ltd., Bandon
Farm Lab Diagnostics, Elphin
Oldcastle Laboratories, Oldcastle
Paralabs, Portumna
Agri Diagnostics Ireland Ltd., Killarney

Base price

pure breed wrote: »

Is this Oldcastle Labs that quoted you €1 per sample?? Thanks

As I said in the post their email said - "testing could cost as little as €1 per sample, giving you maximum profit of €9 per animal tested"
"Full payment for testing (and/or kits and courier) must be paid in full prior to testing commencing."
I would be cautious of the use of the word "could". You would need to speak to them directly. We get dung samples tested with them from time to time but they have to booked through our Vet. I collect and deliver the samples directly. Our Vet doesn't charge us for booking them in.

ABitofsense

FarmLab: 15euro plus postage for testing; You order the kit online and the carry out the testing based on 10 samples pooled.

Paralabs: 30euro plus postage for testing; Same as above, order a kit & return

Anyone us either of these before? Im waiting on replies from the other labs.

bogman_bass

ABitofsense wrote: »

FarmLab: 15euro plus postage for testing; You order the kit online and the carry out the testing based on 10 samples pooled.

Paralabs: 30euro plus postage for testing; Same as above, order a kit & return

Anyone us either of these before? Im waiting on replies from the other labs.

My vet does all his lab work with Vetlab

High bike

ABitofsense wrote: »

FarmLab: 15euro plus postage for testing; You order the kit online and the carry out the testing based on 10 samples pooled.

Paralabs: 30euro plus postage for testing; Same as above, order a kit & return

Anyone us either of these before? Im waiting on replies from the other labs.

is that for the 10 samples or each?

ABitofsense

High bike wrote: »

is that for the 10 samples or each?

That's for the 10 samples.

High bike

ABitofsense wrote: »

That's for the 10 samples.

that's reasonable enough, what do mean by 10 samples pooled are they all put in the same container and mixed?

Green&Red

Sent off my samples last week, only had 10, separate sample tubes for each cow.


Got my results back yesterday, very quick in fairness. Not sure why I’d send off 10 separate samples when this is format of the results?

I’ve emailed them back to see if I need to do anything else for BEEP or do they do it, I can’t see anything on the ICBF website for inputting results. I’ve also asked for the individual results

For completeness, the only thing missing off the test results below is my address and herd number

trg

Green&Red wrote: »

Sent off my samples last week, only had 10, separate sample tubes for each cow.


Got my results back yesterday, very quick in fairness. Not sure why I’d send off 10 separate samples when this is format of the results?

I’ve emailed them back to see if I need to do anything else for BEEP or do they do it, I can’t see anything on the ICBF website for inputting results. I’ve also asked for the individual results

For completeness, the only thing missing off the test results below is my address and herd number

Fair play, you're on the ball. What's the plan now? Run results by the vet?

Green&Red

trg wrote: »

Fair play, you're on the ball. What's the plan now? Run results by the vet?

Ya, herd test is in a couple of weeks so I’ll have a chat to him about it. I treat for fluke so not sure how I deal with. The low positive would kinda suggest it’s not a major issue, or that’s how I’d read it

pure breed

Only signed up a month ago to beeps and was looking to sell a few weanlings over next couple wks. I haven't weighed them yet with a scales.
If I weigh them today could I sell them next week for example?
I tried ringing Portlaoise but they aren't taking any calls on Beep s due to Covid only emails. Thanks

Green&Red

pure breed wrote: »

Only signed up a month ago to beeps and was looking to sell a few weanlings over next couple wks. I haven't weighed them yet with a scales.
If I weigh them today could I sell them next week for example?
I tried ringing Portlaoise but they aren't taking any calls on Beep s due to Covid only emails. Thanks

You can see them the next day, I did it last year. You’ll need to take the dung sample before you sell I’d imagine

pure breed

Green&Red wrote:

You can see them the next day, I did it last year. You’ll need to take the dung sample before you sell I’d imagine

I thought the dung sample had to be taken from only 10 cows if I remember correctly.

High bike

pure breed wrote: »

I thought the dung sample had to be taken from only 10 cows if I remember correctly.

i think that too 10 cows only

lab man

Stupid question but anyway ... wat did ye collect the dung sample in and where did year send it to

Hard Knocks

lab man wrote: »

Stupid question but anyway ... wat did ye collect the dung sample in and where did year send it to

I used Oldcastle labs
They sent out a small pot

pure breed

High bike wrote:

i think that too 10 cows only

We are going to leave the dung samples till weighing the spring born calves in September / October. Dunno if that's right or wrong?

Aravo

Oldcastle lab are e25 to test the 10 samples. They will send out the containers. Have herd test coming up so plan to do the dung samples then. One less job to do down the line.

893bet

Aravo wrote: »

Oldcastle lab are e25 to test the 10 samples. They will send out the containers. Have herd test coming up so plan to do the dung samples then. One less job to do down the line.

25 per sample? That ain’t cheap.

Green&Red

The crowd in elphin are €15

Aravo

893bet wrote: »

25 per sample? That ain’t cheap.

e25 for 10 samples, 2.50 per sample. Oldcastle do the BVD here so am happy to stick with them.

Have the dung samples to be special post like the BVD samples

Green&Red

Green&Red wrote: »

The crowd in elphin are €15

Aravo wrote: »

e25 for 10 samples, 2.50 per sample. Oldcastle do the BVD here so am happy to stick with them.

Have the dung samples to be special post like the BVD samples

As above, the 10 are for €15 in Elphin

High bike

pure breed wrote: »

We are going to leave the dung samples till weighing the spring born calves in September / October. Dunno if that's right or wrong?

same here herd test in a months time and do it all in the one day

charolais0153

High bike wrote: »

same here herd test in a months time and do it all in the one day

Very easy do dung sample in a field, cattle all lying down, walk up to them, they stand up and shiit, very easy

Hard Knocks

charolais0153 wrote: »

Very easy do dung sample in a field, cattle all lying down, walk up to them, they stand up and shiit, very easy

That’s it & then you can dose at herd test