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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Jaysus Wibbs, you wouldn't want to have a crash in that thing. Thin tyres, no seatbelts or any kind of bars if you had a roll. It reminds me of Michael Schumacher after he had a spin in a vintage F1 car and he was asked what he thought of it. "Scary" was his reply.

    Wear a helmet and goggles. Be grand.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    With a ciggie in the mouth for added safety.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    This is a pub -
    D0P_k9xWkAAeete.jpg

    It's next to the Schafbergspitze Hotel, on top of the Schafberg mountain in Austria.

    You can get a steam train up the mountain, though the incline is so steep (up to 1 in 4) that the engine has to be tilted in order to keep its water level.

    1_PJCnzKo.jpg


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Wibbs wrote: »
    *Bugatti once said Mr Bentley makes the fastest trucks in the world
    "British" racing green is actually Irish green because of the Gordon Bennet races.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭secondrowgal


    "British" racing green is actually Irish green because of the Gordon Bennet races.
    Nice! More please?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The Gordon Bennet cup races were held in the early part of the 20th century and each nation was represented by a colour. France was blue, the US was red etc. When the race was held in the UK it ended up being held in Ireland, which was a part of the UK at the time, because road racing was banned in the rest of the UK. A British entrant and car won it and as a note of thanks and respect being hosted in Ireland Green was settled on as the British colour. Though blue is technically the official Irish colour, but green by that stage was the popular idea of the Irish colour. The original British race green was more emerald green IIRC and became darker over time.

    White was originally Germany's colour but later became silver. The US was red, but that became the Italian colour later on. I dunno what the US colour became tbh. Japan's national colour was white with red. Honda the first Japanese team to enter and win F1 painted their cars "championship white" with red circles and years later their souped up road cars "Type R" R for racing were originally offered only in white with red accents.

    The national team colours largely disappeared with the coming of mass sponsorship and the need to turn cars into mobile billboards(IIRC Lotus was one of the first to buck that trend), though on occasion some teams have fired a nod to the past. Mercedes has painted their race cars silver from time to time.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,915 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    James Joyce wrote a story about the Gordon Bennett race called "After the Race" which is in Dubliners. It really highlights what a massive event it was at the time, and what a spectacle. He depicts huge crowds in College Green welcoming the drivers like heroes. Of course for Joyce this becomes a story about Irish craven servility to people from more metropolitan countries.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    "Gordon Bennett" is a mild swear word in Red Dwarf.

    Though ye probably did know that :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,915 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    cdeb wrote: »
    "Gordon Bennett" is a mild swear word in Red Dwarf.

    Though ye probably did know that :)

    Only fools and horses got there first!


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gordon Bennett isn't a swear, it's just an exclamation of surprise. It has two widely believed origins, the first reportedly refers to a way of saying "God" without saying it - from a time when it was considered impolite - 'Gordon' being 'Gawd' and using that particularly Cockney way of pronouncing the R.

    Alternatively and more believably it refers to Gordon Bennett jr, son of the Scots founder of the NY Herald of the same name and famous editor at the turn of the last century. Gordon Bennett Junior was a hot-air ballooner, all-round playboy and mischief maker who surprised everyone by doing a lot of hot-air-balloon-race-winning. He established a balloon race that still takes place today, as mentioned.

    When he'd win another race, the commentators would exclaim "Gordon Bennett!" in astonishment at him taking first place at yet another race.

    Gordon Bennett, would you Adam and Eve it?



    Edit: somehow missed Wibbs post about the race!


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    from https://www.gordonbennettclassic.ie/history/


    gordon.png

    “A visitor stopped to ask directions to Kilcullen, the farmer replied ten miles Sir but in one of those yolks it should be less,"

    “I could fill a book with experiences we had from practising over the course prior to the race. One thing we discovered was that the roads in Ireland were used as farm yards for the breeding of chickens and other birds and beasts. Whenever we killed a chicken we made a point of finding the owner and compensating him for his loss. A price was paid and the owner kept the carcase. But the number of chickens killed rose daily which led him to suspect that he paid more than once for the same chicken.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,915 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    James Joyce wrote a story about the Gordon Bennett race called "After the Race" which is in Dubliners. It really highlights what a massive event it was at the time, and what a spectacle. He depicts huge crowds in College Green welcoming the drivers like heroes. Of course for Joyce this becomes a story about Irish craven servility to people from more metropolitan countries.

    This is the opening paragraph of that story by the way:

    "The cars came scudding in towards Dublin, running evenly like pellets in the groove of the Naas Road. At the crest of the hill at Inchicore sightseers had gathered in clumps to watch the cars careering homeward and through this channel of poverty and inaction the Continent sped its wealth and industry. Now and again the clumps of people raised the cheer of the gratefully oppressed. Their sympathy, however, was for the blue cars -- the cars of their friends, the French."

    I love the grim cynicism of it. On the one hand the vision of cars "scudding" towards Dublin (the verb was used mainly to describe clouds) projects speed and grace that would be completely unfamiliar and at odds with the slow pace of life through which the cars move. That contrast then shades off into the contrast between the the "channel of poverty and inaction" of Inchicore and the "wealth and industry" of "the Continent". But the really depressing part is the cheer of the "gratefully oppressed" people of Ireland, latching on to the French for having beaten the Brits. The implication, of course, is that this vicarious victory is a thin one indeed, and they receive only condescension from these Continental victors.

    Joyce wrote the story as a result of being asked to conduct an interview with a French racecar driver, Henri Fournier, in Paris for the Irish Times in 1903. The interview is funny mainly because of how bored Joyce sounds in the transcript, asking inane questions like "what do you intend to do after the race?". Joyce was back in Dublin for the race itself (in which Fournier didn't participate) but there's no evidence he actually went out to see the cars.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    5f072755795e6.jpg

    This is a pressure model for a Adélie penguin's stomach.

    And they need to build up a little more than 10 to 60 kilopascals.








    5f072730d1680.jpg

    So they can poop like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,812 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    ^^ That'd perfectly fit in WTF thread as well. ;)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    joujoujou wrote: »
    ^^ That'd perfectly fit in WTF thread as well. ;)
    No, because it's proper science*. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2007.00926v1.pdf


    the tl;dr version you should keep at least 1.34 meters away from a penguin trying to poop.



    * Or pooper science maybe ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Vita nova


    No, not something you eat or someone that preaches about Jesus but the type of nut you screw onto things. The Jesus Nut is the name for the retaining nut that holds the rotor onto the rotor mast of helicopters. It's so called because if it detaches then you're in Jesus's hands.

    It's also used in engineering jargon to refer to a single point of failure which can have catastrophic effects.

    tumblr_inline_o1vmmyo9Yk1srob4n_400.gifv

    41E16XPSNEL._SX284_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,822 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Vita nova wrote: »
    No, not something you eat or someone that preaches about Jesus but the type of nut you screw onto things. The Jesus Nut is the name for the retaining nut that holds the rotor onto the rotor mast of helicopters. It's so called because if it detaches then you're in Jesus's hands.

    It's also used in engineering jargon to refer to a single point of failure which can have catastrophic effects.

    tumblr_inline_o1vmmyo9Yk1srob4n_400.gifv

    41E16XPSNEL._SX284_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

    As opposed to the Jesus Handle: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jesus%20handle


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Napoleon Bonaparte had an older brother called Napoleon, and four sisters called Maria Anna. In each case, the child died before their first birthday, and the name was recycled until reaching a child who survived until adulthood.

    It wasn't an uncommon idea. Ludwig van Beethoven, Salvador Dali and Vincent van Gogh had brothers called Ludwig, Salvador and Vincent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,915 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    cdeb wrote: »
    Napoleon Bonaparte had an older brother called Napoleon, and four sisters called Maria Anna. In each case, the child died before their first birthday, and the name was recycled until reaching a child who survived until adulthood.

    It wasn't an uncommon idea. Ludwig van Beethoven, Salvador Dali and Vincent van Gogh had brothers called Ludwig, Salvador and Vincent.

    Richard D James, better known as electronic musician Aphex Twin, claims to have had a still born older brother also named Richard. He very often makes up outlandish things in interviews though, so it's hard to know if this is true, but the cover of his 1996 Girl/boy EP has a picture of a grave stone of Richard James with only one date on it, November 23 1968 (3 years before he was born). So night be true.

    Other things he seems to have made up include that he lived in a former bank vault in central London and that he owned the Michael Faraday memorial in the middle of Elephant square roundabout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001


    Don't know why this never occured to me but

    Fascinating little life hack, for doing percentages:

    x% of y = y% of x

    So, for example, if you needed to work out 4% of 75 in your head, just flip it and and do 75% of 4, which is easier.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    cdeb wrote: »
    Napoleon Bonaparte had an older brother called Napoleon, and four sisters called Maria Anna. In each case, the child died before their first birthday, and the name was recycled until reaching a child who survived until adulthood.

    It wasn't an uncommon idea. Ludwig van Beethoven, Salvador Dali and Vincent van Gogh had brothers called Ludwig, Salvador and Vincent.

    George Foreman, ex world heavy weight boxing champion has 12 children, five sons and seven daughters. His five sons are George Jr., George III ("Monk"), George IV ("Big Wheel"), George V ("Red"), and George VI ("Little Joey"). One of his daughters is called Georgetta.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Emlyn Hughes has a son called Emlyn Jr. and a daughter called Emma Lynn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    Don't know why this never occured to me but

    Fascinating little life hack, for doing percentages:

    x% of y = y% of x

    So, for example, if you needed to work out 4% of 75 in your head, just flip it and and do 75% of 4, which is easier.
    i don't know, 0.75 * 4 is handy enough to deal with

    Ignoring idiots who comment "far right" because they don't even know what it means



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭LostinBlanch


    The staff on Airforce One got so annoyed Lyndon B Johnson constantly asking them to change the temperature in the cabin that they installed a dummy thermostat so he could change the temperature himself. He never asked again after that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    The very most venomous spider in the world (Guinness book of records) is the one that sometimes shows up in packets of bannanas in places such as W.Europe.

    Brazilian wandering spiders (also ocalled armed spiders or banana spiders) genus Phoneutria (which means "murderess" in Greek) is known for building webbed nests on bananas.
    Luckily a powerful anti-venom prevents deaths in most cases. Without that you're brown bread in 2hrs.

    fGinxGQ.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭Cordell




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Cordell wrote: »
    "deadly boner spiders" :D:D:D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭aoh


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Emlyn Hughes has a son called Emlyn Jr. and a daughter called Emma Lynn.

    My great-grandmother had 3 sons called Robert. One stillborn, one cot- death and my grandfather


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Emlyn Hughes has a son called Emlyn Jr. and a daughter called Emma Lynn.

    Safe to say that every story told about Crazy Horse is true.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    The staff on Airforce One got so annoyed Lyndon B Johnson constantly asking them to change the temperature in the cabin that they installed a dummy thermostat so he could change the temperature himself. He never asked again after that.

    His giant balls were probably sweaty.
    Dude has a recorded audiotape asking his tailor for extra slack in the “seat” of his pants.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    oily_house_index.png


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    This is from The Onion


    ZcDhcKk.jpg



    This isn't :(

    https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsbl.2020.0096
    . Here, I estimate the theoretical maximal active consumption rate (ACR) in humans, using 39 years of historical data from the annual Nathan's Famous Hot Dog Eating Contest. Through nonlinear modelling and generalized extreme value analysis, I show that humans are theoretically capable of achieving an ACR of approximately 832 g min−1 fresh matter over 10 min duration


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    More evidence of the link between global warming and pirates ?


    Levels of Piracy Asia doubled compared to last year during the pandemic shutdown. www.recaap.org


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The force necessary to kill a single bacterium is about 20 nN.

    To break the cell wall in E. coli.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    The force necessary to kill a single bacterium is about 20 nN.

    To break the cell wall in E. coli.


    Cool, but for the uninitiated: how much is that in today's money?


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    New Home wrote: »
    Cool, but for the uninitiated: how much is that in today's money?
    A 10 cent coin could crush two million of the pesky blighters, but you'd have to line them up first.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Lea Thompson, who played Michael J. Fox's mother in the Back to the Future films, was born on the 31st of May 1961. Michael J. Fox was born 9 days later. :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The humble Jerrycan has been with us since the late 1930’s and came about as a pre WW2 German government proposal to provide a 20 litre fuel container for the military. Hence the name as “Jerry” was a shorthand usually pejorative name for Germans among the allies. A company by the name of Muller in Schwelm Germany came up with the winning design in 1937.

    Allied fuel cans were pretty dire. The British ones got the nickname “flimsies”. Made of thin tin plate, with lots of seams and leaked like a teabag. This caused some serious logistical issues with fuel losses as up to 20% of fuel was being lost in this way(the Brits found a better use for them when empty as makeshift tea stoves). The German design on the other hand…

    520863.jpg
    The text reads "Fuel 20 litres, flammable" with the year of production below and the factory logo below that. Most also had Wehrmacht stamped below that again and a production run number.


    This design had some very cleaver features. At the top you find three handles as the government placed a requirement that a man should be able to carry two full cans or four empty cans. It also meant that men could carry cans in tandem and made it easier to pass cans along a line of men. Built to be stackable and easily strapped to vehicles.

    Jerrycan-01.jpg

    The main can itself was made from two stampings of decent gauge steel with a single welded seam that was recessed to protect it. The X on both sides allowed for expansion and contraction in different temperatures. The inside and outside were coated with a fuel and corrosion resistant plastic taken from of all things the German beer barrel industry.

    The captive cap featured a built in spout and a cap that required no tools to open and close and when open the cap slides back so it stays out of the way while pouring. They were also lockable with a wire or pin. Inside the spout there is a tube, which takes air from the raised rear hump so the fuel(or water) pours smoothly without glugging. This air pocket also allows the can to float when full off setting the weight of the can itself.

    520864.jpg

    A couple of non Germans who saw one before the war recognised its importance and tried to interest allied governments, oddly to little initial interest. This changed soon enough as allied troops saw them and started using the captured “Jerry’s” cans and the British were the first to copy it and quite sensibly made millimetre perfect copies. The Americans for some reason didn’t and decided to reinvent the wheel and went their own pretty crappy way, only retaining the three handles and overall size and general shape of the German design. The US cans had crimped seams and more of them and a flat bottom so were much more prone to leakage and corrosion(some were galvanised to offset this and still leaked). The US lid was different too and required tools to open and close it and a separate funnel to pour. Not ideal.

    1943%20Jerry%20Can%201a.jpg

    These simple cans became vital to the war effort. First for the Germans and then for the allies. In 1944 after the allied invasion of Europe a lack of them had actually held up moving forward as though they had enough fuel at the rear they were running out of cans to get it to the front. In France the allied forces even enlisted the help of the locals and children to collect discarded cans from ditches and fields giving out prizes of chocolate and the like. In one month they had collected nearly one million of the things and had field stations that would repair and refurbish any damaged ones.

    Mine was made in 1943 by the company in Schwelm that came up with the design. It’s an example of one that was collected and refurbished by the allies, panzer grey* originally, repaired seam and overpainted with green. Still fuel tight and in use to this day(the inner lining still looks brand new). When I got it it had been painted red at some time down the years. Hit it with paint stripper and that came off no bother, the underlying paint wasn’t even touched by the modern safer paint stripper.

    So there you go, the humble jerrycan and a masterpiece of industrial design.




    *German cans came generally came in either panzer grey or sand colour for desert troops. I’ve seen the occasional one in red. The water/wasser cans also had a painted white cross to avoid any confusion. There were also tags that could be attached to the handles to denote type of fuel. Red with an embossed circle(so you could feel it in the dark) for petrol, black with an embossed D for diesel. Sometimes they have stencilled painted "Heer" for army, or 20l.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,269 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Still fuel tight and in use to this day(the inner lining still looks brand new).
    This, to me, is the epitome of good design: something that can still do exactly what it was designed to do 77 years after it was manufactured.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yeah. All it needed was a new rubber seal in the cap and the new ones fit it so... I've seen examples that were dragged out of ditches in France with only surface rust, a bit of a rub down, a new paint job and back in service. Mad.

    Like many things since the interwebs they've become "collectables" and some can be mad money. The ones with SS stamped on them go for many hundreds of quid, for those lounge room nazis that are into that sorta thing. They're even faked which tells you enough about the market.

    The company that originally made the SS cans is a Czech company still going today(Sandrik) and in the 90's they did a run of the SS ones using the original presses which sold like hot cakes. Ironically and weirdly the Israeli Defence Forces of all people buy their metal jerrycans from the same Czech company.

    Nazi example:
    2754569800_1.jpg

    Israeli example:
    IDF+20l+Sandrik.JPG

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭Cordell


    My grandpa had a weird hardhat with the same sign on it, I guess it was an electricity company?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Sure, Sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,915 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Wibbs wrote: »
    The humble Jerrycan has been with us since the late 1930’s and came about as a pre WW2 German government proposal to provide a 20 litre fuel container for the military. Hence the name as “Jerry” was a shorthand usually pejorative name for Germans among the allies. A company by the name of Muller in Schwelm Germany came up with the winning design in 1937.

    Allied fuel cans were pretty dire. The British ones got the nickname “flimsies”. Made of thin tin plate, with lots of seams and leaked like a teabag. This caused some serious logistical issues with fuel losses as up to 20% of fuel was being lost in this way(the Brits found a better use for them when empty as makeshift tea stoves). The German design on the other hand…

    520863.jpg
    The text reads "Fuel 20 litres, flammable" with the year of production below and the factory logo below that. Most also had Wehrmacht stamped below that again and a production run number.


    This design had some very cleaver features. At the top you find three handles as the government placed a requirement that a man should be able to carry two full cans or four empty cans. It also meant that men could carry cans in tandem and made it easier to pass cans along a line of men. Built to be stackable and easily strapped to vehicles.

    Jerrycan-01.jpg

    The main can itself was made from two stampings of decent gauge steel with a single welded seam that was recessed to protect it. The X on both sides allowed for expansion and contraction in different temperatures. The inside and outside were coated with a fuel and corrosion resistant plastic taken from of all things the German beer barrel industry.

    The captive cap featured a built in spout and a cap that required no tools to open and close and when open the cap slides back so it stays out of the way while pouring. They were also lockable with a wire or pin. Inside the spout there is a tube, which takes air from the raised rear hump so the fuel(or water) pours smoothly without glugging. This air pocket also allows the can to float when full off setting the weight of the can itself.

    520864.jpg

    A couple of non Germans who saw one before the war recognised its importance and tried to interest allied governments, oddly to little initial interest. This changed soon enough as allied troops saw them and started using the captured “Jerry’s” cans and the British were the first to copy it and quite sensibly made millimetre perfect copies. The Americans for some reason didn’t and decided to reinvent the wheel and went their own pretty crappy way, only retaining the three handles and overall size and general shape of the German design. The US cans had crimped seams and more of them and a flat bottom so were much more prone to leakage and corrosion(some were galvanised to offset this and still leaked). The US lid was different too and required tools to open and close it and a separate funnel to pour. Not ideal.

    1943%20Jerry%20Can%201a.jpg

    These simple cans became vital to the war effort. First for the Germans and then for the allies. In 1944 after the allied invasion of Europe a lack of them had actually held up moving forward as though they had enough fuel at the rear they were running out of cans to get it to the front. In France the allied forces even enlisted the help of the locals and children to collect discarded cans from ditches and fields giving out prizes of chocolate and the like. In one month they had collected nearly one million of the things and had field stations that would repair and refurbish any damaged ones.

    Mine was made in 1943 by the company in Schwelm that came up with the design. It’s an example of one that was collected and refurbished by the allies, panzer grey* originally, repaired seam and overpainted with green. Still fuel tight and in use to this day(the inner lining still looks brand new). When I got it it had been painted red at some time down the years. Hit it with paint stripper and that came off no bother, the underlying paint wasn’t even touched by the modern safer paint stripper.

    So there you go, the humble jerrycan and a masterpiece of industrial design.




    *German cans came generally came in either panzer grey or sand colour for desert troops. I’ve seen the occasional one in red. The water/wasser cans also had a painted white cross to avoid any confusion. There were also tags that could be attached to the handles to denote type of fuel. Red with an embossed circle(so you could feel it in the dark) for petrol, black with an embossed D for diesel. Sometimes they have stencilled painted "Heer" for army, or 20l.

    You don't happen to have any Allied paraphernalia do you?

    Wibbs: oh no that kind of thing wouldn't interest me at all


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    You don't happen to have any Allied paraphernalia do you?

    Wibbs: oh no that kind of thing wouldn't interest me at all
    :D actually I do. I've a US can knocking about the place. Just in this case the Jerry one is by far the best and the original of the species.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    And here is Wibbs' audio book with bonus pics :D



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    But peasant, you know that doxxing isn't allowed!!! :pac:


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Because of the phases of the moon at it's equator you need to travel a speed of 9.6 mph 15.4 km/h to keep in sunlight.

    The Apollo 17 Lunar Rover had a top speed of 11.2 miles per hour 18.0 km/h and had a fender repaired with duct tape. So you could keep in sunlight.

    As long as the batteries lasted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    New Home wrote: »
    But peasant, you know that doxxing isn't allowed!!! :pac:

    Good spot Newie,

    Here is some of peasant's parking skills for all to see.

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    :pac:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    peasant wrote: »
    And here is Wibbs' audio book with bonus pics :D
    Feck off! :D:D Mad that the allies alone manufactured 20 million of the things, and god knows who many the Germans made, they had 12 or 15 factories cranking them out. I do recall reading of some chap high up in the US military saying that the jerrycan was one of the most important military items they had and would have been in real trouble without them. Irony all over the place that a German invention would be one of the things that would ultimately lead to Germany losing.

    What has long fascinated me is German industry and inventiveness during the war. A) they kept the industries going even at the hight of the allied bombing, in fact production of some things went up(largely because of Albert Speer. Opportunistic slither of a nazi when it suited, bland derivative architect, but incredible at organising production). B) some of the crazy stuff they came up with was years, even decades ahead of the time. I mean just look at this thing:

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    That's a Horten flying wing in 1943. Being towed by a 30's truck, with 30's propeller planes in the background. It looks like something from a science fiction film and not real. Like a 90's stealth plane had fallen through a time warp. And they got it to fly without computers and developed a pressure suit and ejection seat for the pilot and it was mostly made with wood because of shortages of materials.

    The more you read the background the more you see that in the little death and personality cult around Hitler he kept everybody guessing so all the manufacturers eager to please him and get lucrative contracts were more free and pressured into coming up with really out of the box thinking. This also caused major problems because he might OK a project but then insist on sticking his oar in and they'd have to go along with it. EG the ME 262, the first operational jet fighter. Well he insisted it had to carry bombs which added weight and lead time and delayed it for many months. A good thing for the world because if they hadn't been delayed and had entered service in any numbers the allied bombers and fighters would have been in real trouble.

    They even came up with the first assault rifle, though in that case the head of the company didn't want to show it to Hitler thinking he'd think it a bit out there. Someone lower down did show him and he loved it, but again there was a year or more delay in getting it made in any numbers. If they had big numbers of assault rifles capable of laying down withering fire and at some distance in the hands of their army at D-day instead of mostly bolt action rifles with the odd sub machine gun, again the Allies would have been in real trouble.

    Mad postscript to the above rifle. A hoard of them was found a few years ago in Syria of all places and pressed into service by various groups.

    stg44-syria.jpg

    See what I mean? It looks like a modern assault rifle. 70 years old.


    Speaking of nazis... sorry "naturalised and loyal true blue American citizens"(don't mention the war and the slave labour under Werner Von Braun...) who did mad engineering and were very important in getting the US to the moon(fair play to the Soviets who mostly did it on their own).
    The Apollo 17 Lunar Rover had a top speed of 11.2 miles per hour 18.0 km/h and had a fender repaired with duct tape. So you could keep in sunlight.

    As long as the batteries lasted.
    Well not really. They planned the missions so that they would always be in sunlight for the duration. The same lunar rover was almost an afterthought and was resisted by some in NASA. The final design which had to be folded up and stuffed into a port on the side of the lander descent stage and had to be able to be unfolded by two guys in pressure suits was a kind of private project of a couple of NASA engineers who made a little model of it and its folding tech and showed it to Von Braun who OK'd it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The Vikings spread smallpox.

    Worse
    We discovered new strains of smallpox in the teeth of Viking skeletons and found their genetic structure is different to the modern smallpox virus eradicated in the 20th century.


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