Landlord refusing access to use shower

GreeBo

So I've just moved into the house in renting and noticed there was no shower curtain in the main bathroom.
Contacted the ll via the management company to be told that they don't want us using that shower as it will damage the walls and the kitchen underneath!
We should all just use the ensuite!


There was never any mention of this when viewing or signing the lease.

Any advice?

Pipmae

No advice but holy moly some landlords are absolute assholes. I mean WTF????

Black_Knight

Use it. Landlords job to maintain the house. He's fully aware of it and won't fix it. No sympathy for him.

In all seriousness though. Ask the landlord to fix it. He's obliged to, as you can't be expected to use an ensuite as the main shower (privacy, conflicting schedules etc). If he won't contact PRTB I guess

Sinus pain

Could you buy a shower curtain nd just use it

GreeBo

bathroom is tiled floor to ceiling so fixing a curtain rail will be noticeable, also the far wall is slanted so a simple end to end rail won't work.

Dunno why they don't just install a small glass door like the rest of the planet.

_Brian

GreeBo wrote: »

bathroom is tiled floor to ceiling so fixing a curtain rail will be noticeable, also the far wall is slanted so a simple end to end rail won't work.

Dunno why they don't just install a small glass door like the rest of the planet.

Get one of the extendable curtain rails, spring loaded with rubber ends. It won’t damage the tiles as no drilling, you can run shower rail on this.

Black_Knight

_Brian wrote: »

Get one of the extendable curtain rails, spring loaded with rubber ends. It won’t damage the tiles as no drilling, you can run shower rail on this.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/InterDesign-Medium-1-Piece-Curtain-Tension/dp/B006J23OF6

harr

GreeBo wrote: »

bathroom is tiled floor to ceiling so fixing a curtain rail will be noticeable, also the far wall is slanted so a simple end to end rail won't work.

Dunno why they don't just install a small glass door like the rest of the planet.

Use something like this...so need to fix the rail to the wall with screws and is easily removed when needed..this with a light shower curtain would cost under €30.. he should be fixing the issue though and I wouldn’t be happy using the other shower.

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/4595078/Trail/searchtext%3ESHOWER+RAIL+.htm

Sleeper12

Pipmae wrote:

No advice but holy moly some landlords are absolute assholes. I mean WTF????

Some are. Totally agree. I see horrible landlords on a daily or weekly basis but they are still in the minority. There are some decent ones too

Black_Knight wrote:

Use it. Landlords job to maintain the house. He's fully aware of it and won't fix it. No sympathy for him.

Bad advice imo. Landlord has stated what will happen if it's used. Do you not think he's the type to bill any damage to the tenant?

Black_Knight

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Some are. Totally agree. I see horrible landlords on a daily or weekly basis but they are still in the minority. There are some decent ones too


Bad advice imo. Landlord has stated what will happen if it's used. Do you not think he's the type to bill any damage to the tenant?

So just bend over and take it?

GreeBo

_Brian wrote: »

Get one of the extendable curtain rails, spring loaded with rubber ends. It won’t damage the tiles as no drilling, you can run shower rail on this.

One wall has severe slope so that won't work either.

Tempted to buy one of those tri fold crappy ones and silicone it to the tiles

Sleeper12

Black_Knight wrote:

So just bend over and take it?

Tennant is responsible for the damage they cause. Damage can run into thousands. Tennant will end up paying for any damage already done downstairs even though it was caused before they used the shower. You can see the type of landlord he is. He will make a profit on the deal in the end

File a complaint would be the correct way forward

Effects

Any pictures of the setup so we can advise?

Graham

Sleeper12 wrote: »

File a complaint would be the correct way forward

What sort of complaint, and who with?

Sleeper12

Graham wrote:

What sort of complaint, and who with?

To the landlord in writing. If repairs aren't made in a reasonable reasonable period of time after writing to the landlord tenant can give notice to leave.

Using the shower & causing damage is a bad idea imo

ozmo

GreeBo wrote: »

they don't want us using that shower as it will damage the walls and the kitchen underneath!

Maybe it leaks.. hence the warning about the kitchen underneath?

Graham

Nothing is broken, OP has been asked not to use the 2nd shower.

It sucks, and personally I'd agree it's pretty unreasonable. At the same time I'm pretty sure there are no statutory rights to a 2nd shower in a rental property.

The only basis for complaint maybe if the property was advertised as having 2 showers, in which case there may be an argument for false advertising. Even then I"m not sure who you'd complain to.

turdball

Graham wrote: »

Nothing is broken, OP has been asked not to use the 2nd shower.

It sucks, and personally I'd agree it's pretty unreasonable. At the same time I'm pretty sure there are no statutory rights to a 2nd shower in a rental property.

The only basis for complaint maybe if the property was advertised as having 2 showers, in which case there may be an argument for false advertising. Even then I"m not sure who you'd complain to.

Well the Bath or pipes or broken if it will cause damage to the kitchen. Complain to the Landlord and then to the PTRB is my advice. Probably an expensive fix as the Landlord hasn't fixed it.
If you have any friends that are plumbers ask them to take a friendly look for you so you get a better idea.

Graham

turdball wrote: »

Well the Bath or pipes or broken. Complain to the Landlord and then to the PTRB is my advice. Probably an expensive fix as the Landlord hasn't fixed it.
If you have any friends that are plumbers ask them to take a friendly look for you so you get a better idea.

Or water dribbles down the side of the bath making it unsuitable for use with a shower.

I've absolutely no idea on what basis the RTB would get involved?

turdball

Graham wrote: »

Or water dribbles down the side of the bath making it unsuitable for use with a shower.

I've absolutely no idea on what basis the RTB would get involved?

The OP was only told after moving in and presumed could use it.

Its like saying you can't use the kitchen sink and there's running water in the taps in the bathroom to do the washing up.
Should be a communal Bathroom.

Graham

turdball wrote: »

The OP was only told after moving in and presumed could use it.

I honestly can't see how that would fall anywhere near the remit of the RTB.

Dakotabigone

Black_Knight wrote: »

So just bend over and take it?

Wow, you really can say what you want an get away with it because you’re a mod.

Sleeper12

turdball wrote:

The OP was only told after moving in and presumed could use it.

OP can move out if landlord does not repair it.

Landlord cannot be forced to repair it. If it was the only shower that would be different because the building wouldn't meet minimum standards. If there is a 2nd shower landlord is covered.

Unless op has cheap rent I'd move out. The quality of the landlord isn't going to improve over time. To me this is a sign of things to come

turdball

Graham wrote: »

I honestly can't see how that would fall anywhere near the remit of the RTB.

Well its worth a shot! If they get back saying nothing they can do fair enough.

GreeBo

The shower itself works and there are no plumbing issues, she basically just doesn't want us making a mess.
We are allowed to use it to clean the bath, which is nice of her.

It's a short term let, 3 months btw

We also don't have a working dishwasher and the fancy heat pump dies every night (it literally just went again) which is not fun when it's -2 C outside.

All this can be yours too for 2800/month!

turdball

GreeBo wrote: »

The shower itself works and there are no plumbing issues, she basically just doesn't want us making a mess.
We are allowed to use it to clean the bath, which is nice of her.

It's a short term let, 3 months btw

We also don't have a working dishwasher and the fancy heat pump dies every night (it literally just went again) which is not fun when it's -2 C outside.

All this can be yours too for 2800/month!

Work away then, f em

Graham

GreeBo wrote: »

The shower itself works and there are no plumbing issues, she basically just doesn't want us making a mess.
We are allowed to use it to clean the bath, which is nice of her.

It's a short term let, 3 months btw

We also don't have a working dishwasher and the fancy heat pump dies every night (it literally just went again) which is not fun when it's -2 C outside.

All this can be yours too for 2800/month!

I don't think you'd come under the remit of the RTB or the residential tenancies act.

If I'm correct, that would also mean you don't have the obligations a tenant would normally have around notice periods, payment of rent etc.

Eric Cartman

GreeBo wrote: »

The shower itself works and there are no plumbing issues, she basically just doesn't want us making a mess.
We are allowed to use it to clean the bath, which is nice of her.

It's a short term let, 3 months btw

We also don't have a working dishwasher and the fancy heat pump dies every night (it literally just went again) which is not fun when it's -2 C outside.

All this can be yours too for 2800/month!

so its not a water supply or drainage issue, i bet the caulking between the bath and the wall / tiles has just eroded. could you upload a pic of the bath/shower setup, it might be a piss easy fix for under a 10er you could do yourself.

Sleeper12

GreeBo wrote:

It's a short term let, 3 months btw

This is good news.

GreeBo wrote:

We also don't have a working dishwasher and the fancy heat pump dies every night (it literally just went again) which is not fun when it's -2 C outside.

Dishwasher isn't a necessity (in my home it is) and again it doesn't have to be repaired.

Heat pumps are good in new builds. Many older homes get them retrofitted and they can be a disaster even if they don't break down. They will struggle to heat the home without excellent insulation


I'm glad it's a short let. Hope you have better luck in your next place

Eric Cartman

GreeBo wrote: »

The shower itself works and there are no plumbing issues, she basically just doesn't want us making a mess.
We are allowed to use it to clean the bath, which is nice of her.

It's a short term let, 3 months btw

We also don't have a working dishwasher and the fancy heat pump dies every night (it literally just went again) which is not fun when it's -2 C outside.

All this can be yours too for 2800/month!

is it possible theres a timer on the heat pump ?
are you paying your own bills no matter what amount they are ?
is it a completely seperate property only you have access to ?

Gael23

I would push the management company on this