Catalytic converter theft

elperello

the_syco wrote: »

Which will be added to crime stats, but nothing else. Insurance won't cover the cost to replace the cat converter.

It's important that crimes are reported.

When AGS, Dept. of Justice, Joint Policing Committes and Dail Eireann are considering policy, legislation and resource allocation they can only rely on published statistics.

khaldrogo

antodeco wrote: »

In fairness, reading the title I was thinking of some EV power converter thing. Only realised after reading you meant the catalytic converter.

I am a qualified mechanic and when I read the thread title this is exactly what I thought too.

People in the trade call it a cat or cat converter. I've never heard anyone solely refer to it as a converter in 20+ years

elperello

https://boingboing.net/2019/01/17/man-stops-in-traffic-to-steal.html

A video from the UK showing how it's done.

Dartz

They got the cat out of me own yoke in Finglas there back in August. Sewcurity had video of them jacking the car up and just slicing it out. They then sliced open the back tyres when they realised there was no 'cat' in it, just an empty shell. There was damage to the sill of the car - some metal cracked off, and paint damage where they'd clipped it with a saw.

Getting a new midpipe fitted was cheap and easy. The spiteful damage to the tyres was the worst part - paying a mobile service with a van to come out and fit some cheap chinese ditchfinders to get it home cost me more than the midpipe - and double again since they're ****ing horrific for the car.

Also. An RX8 is an amusing thing to drive with an open manifold. Even with full ear defenders, it hurts.

That said, the Gardai couldn't have been more helpful. They came to the office to take a statement - then sent a detective to my house to try and dust for prints. Regrettably I'd already painted over the damaged parts of the sills to keep the rust from getting in - it's definitely a ****ing problem in Finglas.

I've heard more than a few straight-pipe Priuses going around. (Which is an utterly brilliant sound)

Iodine1

In my world a converter is a voltage changing tool. Why should everyone be expert in everything? I think it was very reasonable and showed full interest from the garda to ask the question? And very very arrogant and unreasonable for op to just drop the phone and then complain that nothing is being done.

keano25

Heard OP has got onto Coleen Rooney now to crack the case instead.

ebbsy

keano25 wrote: »

Heard OP has got onto Coleen Rooney now to crack the case instead.

She would probably do a better job.

I have emailed NCPS and the higher up cops, for all the good it will do.

No point in going back to the station in question if they have to ask if they serve that particular district.

Allinall

ebbsy wrote: »

She would probably do a better job.

I have emailed NCPS and the higher up cops, for all the good it will do.

No point in going back to the station in question if they have to ask if they serve that particular district.

“The Red Cow area” is very vague.

It covers east and west of the M50, and north and south of the N7.

I would say it probably is in a couple of Garda districts.

You were less than helpful when you rang the guards, so not surprising the took your call as a trivial matter.

tuxy

Allinall wrote: »

“The Red Cow area” is very vague.

It covers east and west of the M50, and north and south of the N7.

I would say it probably is in a couple of Garda districts.

You were less than helpful when you rang the guards, so not surprising the took your call as a trivial matter.

That's the way you should be when speaking to the shades. Say nothing!

thenightman

Allinall wrote: »

“The Red Cow area” is very vague.

It covers east and west of the M50, and north and south of the N7.

I would say it probably is in a couple of Garda districts.

You were less than helpful when you rang the guards, so not surprising the took your call as a trivial matter.

Nah red cow Luas is the L District, which is Clondalkin, Rathcoole and Ballyfermot stations. Might be a car and a van available to cover entire area each station serves.

Quantum Erasure

there'll be a bit on CrimeCall RTE 1 now, about converters.


edit: on now

Quantum Erasure

on now, it'll be on plus 1 or the rte player

YFlyer

Take a good look.

ebbsy

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

there'll be a bit on CrimeCall RTE 1 now, about converters.


edit: on now

They would be too stupid or too slow to cover it.

tuxy

ebbsy wrote: »

They would be too stupid or too slow to cover it.

I always miss what I want to see thanks to the long adverts on RTE player.
I did see some lad stealing a bottle of wine though, shocking stuff.

pablo128

tuxy wrote: »

I always miss what I want to see thanks to the long adverts on RTE player.
I did see some lad stealing a bottle of wine though, shocking stuff.

Did you find any mention of Ryanair or any helium in that link you posted earlier in the thread?

tuxy

pablo128 wrote: »

Did you find any mention of Ryanair or any helium in that link you posted earlier in the thread?

Yes

ebbsy

tuxy wrote: »

I always miss what I want to see thanks to the long adverts on RTE player.
I did see some lad stealing a bottle of wine though, shocking stuff.

He should be throw in jail then, and hopefully assaulted.

pablo128

tuxy wrote: »

Yes

Could you show the rest of us? I've read that whole thread and don't see any mention of it.

You went to the trouble of making a post about it so the least you could do is highlight it.

Kenny Logins

Seriously, a suitcase full of helium? :pac:

pablo128

Kenny Logins wrote: »

Seriously, a suitcase full of helium? :pac:

I know. Quite bizarre if I say so myself.:pac:

galwaytt

tuxy wrote: »

So you don't need to tell a guard what item of your property has been taken when giving a statement? Remember, it was the op that ended the conversation when the guard wanted to know what exact item had been stolen.

In this case there wasn't even anything stolen - it was an attempted theft.... OP says they didn't actually the Cat off the car.....just sayin'

pablo128

pablo128 wrote: »

I know. Quite bizarre if I say so myself.:pac:

Talk about being light-fingered

Weepsie

Someone I know had theres cut out in the Ikea car park a few weeks ago. Someone tried to stop whoever was doing it and was met with threats and weapons

the.red.baron

slash hooks no doubt

farna_boy

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Of course, but arguing over what exactly that thing is, is irrelevant. It shouldn't matter to a Gard what was stolen, only that something was stolen and it was important enough to report.

I'm not siding with the OP. No reason to hang up, but in fairness a Gard should infer converter as catalytic converter, seeing as so many have been stolen over the last few years. It didn't take any major leaps for anyone here to know what he was on about.

Don't agree there at all.

Like it's been said, a converter could be anything ranging in cost from a couple of euro up a few thousand euro.

If you told the guard it was either a catalytic converter or even gave the cost of it, I'm sure they would have been interested. Otherwise, why would they bother wasting their time on something that is only worth a few euro?

cadaliac

farna_boy wrote: »

Don't agree there at all.

Like it's been said, a converter could be anything ranging in cost from a couple of euro up a few thousand euro.

If you told the guard it was either a catalytic converter or even gave the cost of it, I'm sure they would have been interested. Otherwise, why would they bother wasting their time on something that is only worth a few euro?

You are missing the whole point. The OP's car was being vandalized by people trying to steal a part off his/her car.

So you are saying that well if if its only worth a few Euro, leave them off, us guards are far too busy for this crap?

Chr1st on a bike.

Dravokivich

cadaliac wrote: »

You are missing the whole point. The OP's car was being vandalized by people trying to steal a part off his/her car.

So you are saying that well if if its only worth a few Euro, leave them off, us guards are far too busy for this crap?

Chr1st on a bike.

Going by the OPs own recollection, the guards just wanted to know what he was talking about. He decided he was better off not informing them.

tuxy

Dravokivich wrote: »

He decided he was better off not informing them.

And he was right, snitches get stitches and all that.

Dravokivich

tuxy wrote: »

And he was right, snitches get stitches and all that.

Who says I got a mother.

anewme

Not sure why people would not understand what OP meant or was annoyed over.

Many incidences of this at Shopping Centres. It is a common occurance.

Targets would appear to be SUV's as easier to get access to.

kirving

anewme wrote: »

Not sure why people would not understand what OP meant or was annoyed over.

Because even to the members of the Motors forum, a "converter" is a suitably vague name that leaves people guessing anything from a some part of a socket set to headphone wire to voltage converter to a catalytic converter.

anewme

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Because even to the members of the Motors forum, a "converter" is a suitably vague name that leaves people guessing anything from a some part of a socket set to headphone wire to voltage converter to a catalytic converter.

I'm not a motor forum regular, but to me it was very clear what OP was talking about.

Maybe because I knew this is a regular thing in car parks in Shopping Centres and Car Parks.

I did not realise it was an issue in Red Cow Car Park Luas, so thanks OP for letting me know as I drive an SUV.

It's going on a long time.

Joe Duffy had an article on it last year in Blanchardstown Shopping Centre and its been an issue in Shopping Centres in West Dublin.

ebbsy

anewme wrote: »

I'm not a motor forum regular, but to me it was very clear what OP was talking about.

Maybe because I knew this is a regular thing in car parks in Shopping Centres and Car Parks.

I did not realise it was an issue in Red Cow Car Park Luas, so thanks OP for letting me know as I drive an SUV.

It's going on a long time.

Joe Duffy had an article on it last year in Blanchardstown Shopping Centre and its been an issue in Shopping Centres in West Dublin.

Thanks for that, my intention was to warn people.

I certainly will not be parking there again.

anewme

ebbsy wrote: »

Thanks for that, my intention was to warn people.

I certainly will not be parking there again.

Warning very much appreciated.

I am normally one of those who parks miles away at the back of car parks, so no one will whack their doors off the car.

tuxy

anewme wrote: »

I'm not a motor forum regular, but to me it was very clear what OP was talking about.

Maybe because I knew this is a regular thing in car parks in Shopping Centres and Car Parks.

I did not realise it was an issue in Red Cow Car Park Luas, so thanks OP for letting me know as I drive an SUV.

It's going on a long time.

Joe Duffy had an article on it last year in Blanchardstown Shopping Centre and its been an issue in Shopping Centres in West Dublin.

Anywhere there are electric chargers there will be a risk of converters going missing. The manufacturers of these cable will have to develop a locking anti-theft system.
People become enraged if they think you are taking up a charging point for too long.

anewme

tuxy wrote: »

Anywhere there are electric chargers there will be a risk of converters going missing. The manufacturers of these cable will have to develop a locking anti-theft system.
People become enraged if they think you are taking up a charging point for too long.

Its happening for a long time at a shopping centres.

Nothing to do with electric cars or charging.

sasta le

Wonder is the security turning a blind eye?

tuxy

anewme wrote: »

Its happening for a long time at a shopping centres.

Nothing to do with electric cars or charging.

Figured you might appreciate the warming though, I don't think anyone who be happy about converter theft no mater the type of converter involved.

Dravokivich

sasta le wrote: »

Wonder is the security turning a blind eye?

What security?

anewme

tuxy wrote: »

Figured you might appreciate the warming though, I don't think anyone who be happy about converter theft no mater the type of converter involved.

Well, we were warned about this by Gardai in our area last year, just not this specific car park.

ebbsy

sasta le wrote: »

Wonder is the security turning a blind eye?

The only guys I see going around are the clampers . Are they security as well I wonder.

Doubt it.

ebbsy

tuxy wrote: »

Anywhere there are electric chargers there will be a risk of converters going missing. The manufacturers of these cable will have to develop a locking anti-theft system.
People become enraged if they think you are taking up a charging point for too long.

On a seperate issue do people park there and just leave the charger in the car all day while they go to work ?

elperello

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/catalytic-converters-wanted/21994052

Seems there is demand in Offaly.

FionnK86

Mine stolen from my Yaris at 1930 in Ben Dunne gyms Northwood today.

tuxy

FionnK86 wrote: »

Mine stolen from my Yaris at 1930 in Ben Dunne gyms Northwood today.

Sorry to hear it but how much is a second hand Yaris catalytic converter worth? They must have been really desperate.

Del2005

tuxy wrote: »

Sorry to hear it but how much is a second hand Yaris catalytic converter worth? They must have been really desperate.

They all contain precious metal so at least €20. I was watching a show about shop lifters and they used to steal from Poundland!

FionnK86

Del2005 wrote: »

They all contain precious metal so at least €20. I was watching a show about shop lifters and they used to steal from Poundland!

It'll cost me more to repair adjacent pipes and replace.

I think only place to bottleneck this type of theft is at the guys who buy scrap metal, guards should checkpoint them.

elperello

FionnK86 wrote: »

It'll cost me more to repair adjacent pipes and replace.

I think only place to bottleneck this type of theft is at the guys who buy scrap metal, guards should checkpoint them.

That's tough for you.

Agreed more needs to be done to follow up the buyers.
In the meantime has anyone any experience of this type of product ? -

https://www.vtstore.co.uk/accessories/security/catloc-catalytic-converter-lock

FionnK86

I've received pulse number but garda said she wouldn't have time to check cctv, going to write letter to superintendent to request they check cctv as gym said they wouldn't release footage to me.

Would you think sending via registered post would be inviting trouble? I want proof he's received it as I've already been dealing with garda 4 times and each time they act as if this is the first time Ive reported it, taking my details etc.