Catalytic converter theft

1874

fryup wrote: »

very enterprising people out there, wonder could it modified for various models of car?

Thats just one example I found of a seemingly purpose built item, it appears to be very thin, its difficult to tell.

fryup

look at this, five guys involved

elperello

fryup wrote: »

look at this, five guys involved

I get a strong impression of military training there.

God help any car owner stumbling out the front door half asleep brandishing his trusty hurley.

newmember2

elperello wrote: »

I get a strong impression of military training there.

:rolleyes:

lalababa

Cops should have a few highly sought-after bait cars with ccs and gps trackers in them. I always thought that they could almost eliminate bike theft with bait bikes and gps trackers.

Atlantic Dawn

Making posession of a catalytic convertor without proof of ownership a criminal offence would be a good start, they are bringing this is in some US states....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLauWbjb_jc

whisky_galore

elperello wrote: »

I get a strong impression of military training there.

God help any car owner stumbling out the front door half asleep brandishing his trusty hurley.

They appear more lithe than our somewhat chunkier ethnic friends.

elperello

whisky_galore wrote: »

They appear more lithe than our somewhat chunkier ethnic friends.

They appear to be from further afield.

Quite chilling.

They are prepared to do serious damage to anyone who challenges them.

No wonder UK police are starting to take notice.

newmember2

elperello wrote: »

They appear to be from further afield.

Quite chilling.

They are prepared to do serious damage to anyone who challenges them.

No wonder UK police are starting to take notice.

Yep, basically a roving gang of four or five men, out targeting the easy prey of the lone car owner. Scumbags of the highest order.

whisky_galore

elperello wrote: »

They are prepared to do serious damage to anyone who challenges them.

I don't know are they.
If they're smart, they will just run.

Why give anyone a clatter and draw unwanted heat on themselves?

1874

elperello wrote: »

I get a strong impression of military training there.

God help any car owner stumbling out the front door half asleep brandishing his trusty hurley.

I dont know about that, they just seem organised and matter of fact about it,
still one owner isnt likely to take on 5 people, the only thing I can think is making the cat less easy to access, if they have to cut off a protective covering, then thats extra hassle, and an alarm that goes off when its tilted above a certain angle. I think car alarms dont seem to go off so much anymore, so I think it will draw attention and be noticed.
They dont want attention, if the vehicle type and the reg it has displayed are seen, then it might get tackled (at least in the UK), fairly sickening that a follow on clip on u tube suggest they are only getting 200 pounds worth for 2k of damage.

Miscreant

1874 wrote: »

fairly sickening that a follow on clip on u tube suggest they are only getting 200 pounds worth for 2k of damage.

They couldn't care less about the 2k damage, all they want is the money they get for the cat.
Anyone coming out to tackle these guys will definitely get a smack. It's like the rampant daylight moped theft in London until a while ago. The crims would be angle grinding locks on a busy street and then assault anyone who dared to threaten them.
The dirt bags carrying out these cat thefts will not stop until the scrap metal merchants are forced to make changes to the way they operate with regards to these products or the law starts to come down hard on them instead.
Judging by the way household dog thefts are being treated these days then I very much doubt that a lot will be done to stop people stealing catalytic converters.
Crimes against property don't carry the same weight as crimes against a person and the criminals know this.

fryup

whisky_galore wrote: »

They appear more lithe than our somewhat chunkier ethnic friends.

eastern european?

Atlantic Dawn

So brazen they actually check first to see if it hasn't been stolen already, cheek of them. This first guy on the jack must be only an apprentice thief, makes a balls of it in the wrong place, a fair few lbs over match fitness too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVKFNhuEkN8

Lewis_Benson

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

So brazen they actually check first to see if it hasn't been stolen already, cheek of them. This first guy on the jack must be only an apprentice thief, makes a balls of it in the wrong place, a fair few lbs over match fitness too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVKFNhuEkN8

Dirty good for nothing scumbags , waste of space and oxygen.

Wibbs

I've ordered a decat, allegedly...

Me. Earlier wrote: »

maybe I'll just decat my car and pop it back in for the annual NCT. I mean if the authorities aren't apparently willing to crack down on this with legislation around scrapyards and police work, why should I give a toss?

fryup

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

This theft features on Crimecall on RTE1 Monday 9.35pm.

not much of a feature, just a brief 3 mins

LollipopJimmy

Wibbs wrote: »

I've ordered a decat, allegedly...

Don't you drive an elderly Honda? Ironic thing is you'll probably have to cut the cat out to fit the decat :pac:

Wibbs

Elderly?? How dare you sir! Actually it comes out handy enough. They came with a nice quality stainless steel exhaust system that near a quarter century later is still tip top. One of the few things I ever had to replace was the cat and after a few hours soaking in penetrating oil the bolts wound right out no bother. Now this was five years ago(when a used working cat was 50 quid, add a zero to that now), but I put a thin smear of copper grease on new OEM bolts before refitting so I'd reckon they'll be fine.

fryup

elderly alcoholic priest

floatwinner

https://www.thejournal.ie/gardai-seize-catalytic-converters-north-dublin-5410496-Apr2021/

Great to see. More of this please.

magicbastarder

ooh, i wonder which business that is.

It is mostly green space up there. Only a handful of possible suspects

magicbastarder

well, i've come to my conclusion, which i'm obviously not going to mention here.

Atlantic Dawn

I hope there's prison and business shut downs through the courts.

A legitimate business would never leave that much high value material lying around.
I mean the Criminals scouring the country for catyltic convertors would break in and just steal a truck load of these catyltic convertors if they were left lying around.
They must have been confident of nobody stealing the product from them.

Atlantic Dawn

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A legitimate business would never leave that much high value material lying around.

There's 62 illegal dismanters operating in Fingal alone, they would need the Army Rangers with air support to break them all up, but if that's what needed than that's what needed, law and order.
https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1147911/

thelizardking1

Except this one isn't illegal.

Hurrache

There's about 4 scrap places within spitting distance of each other around there, using the photos the gardai posted and google maps you could probably work out which one exactly it was.

https://twitter.com/gardainfo/status/1382625034913656834

thelizardking1

Hurrache wrote: »

There's about 4 scrap places within spitting distance of each other around there, using the photos the gardai posted and google maps you could probably work out which one exactly it was.

Look at the pic of the tow truck, in the background there's a shed with a slanted roof and a pipe coming out of the roof at a 90 degree angle. This shed and pipe can be seen in the background of one of the pictures on this Recylcing company's website.

punisher5112

We should be seeing these raids numerous times a day. They should be coming down hard.

el Fenomeno

thelizardking1 wrote: »

Look at the pic of the tow truck, in the background there's a shed with a slanted roof and a pipe coming out of the roof at a 90 degree angle. This shed and pipe can be seen in the background of one of the pictures on this Recylcing company's website.

Hey, are you hinting that it's St Margaret's Recycling? Can't find the pic with the pipe your referencing on their website, can you point me in the direction?

thelizardking1

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Hey, are you hinting that it's St Margaret's Recycling? Can't find the pic with the pipe your referencing on their website, can you point me in the direction?

Look for the picture of their 191 recovery truck

el Fenomeno

thelizardking1 wrote: »

Look for the picture of their 191 recovery truck

Very good! Well spotted.

Is the implication here that they are buying them from the robbers for pennies on the dollar?

thelizardking1

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Very good! Well spotted.

Is the implication here that they are buying them from the robbers for pennies on the dollar?

I haven't a clue! They seem like a reputable business from what I can see. But you never know I suppose

punisher5112

I'd be more then happy to have a bait car and cameras in my drive....

GhostyMcGhost

thelizardking1 wrote: »

Look for the picture of their 191 recovery truck

Look at the videos on the page. Looks like a match. Whatever business it is anyway should be shutdown for facilitating the continued theft and breaking of people’s cars. Absolute scum damaging cars and often leaving people stranded. If someone comes in with 300 cats you know damn well they were acquired in less than legal ways

punisher5112

Vin number on cats, licence checks for anyone bringing in for scrap, big big fines and prison time.

There really needs to be a big push on crime here.

Atlantic Dawn

punisher5112 wrote: »

Vin number on cats, licence checks for anyone bringing in for scrap, big big fines and prison time.

There really needs to be a big push on crime here.

Yes I've heard that there's shortages of supply too so even if you have the €1k plus to replace what's stolen you could be looking at not being able to use your car for 4-6 weeks waiting for the replacement to come in.

Lewis_Benson

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Yes I've heard that there's shortages of supply too so even if you have the €1k plus to replace what's stolen you could be looking at not being able to use your car for 4-6 weeks waiting for the replacement to come in.

You can use the car, albeit it will be a tad noisy.

Lewis_Benson

punisher5112 wrote: »

I'd be more then happy to have a bait car and cameras in my drive....

Hooked up to a 240v supply.

markmoto

since electric cars start replacing IC engines, CAT problems will go away in a few years time.

markmoto

markmoto wrote: »

since electric cars start replacing IC engines, CAT problems will go away in a few years time.

If the criminals are allowed operate without fear of consequence they'll continue to operate. A battery pack sold on the black market or broken up for precious metals will be just as attractive to the criminals.
This is organised crime in a Country where there is little law enforcement.

Lewis_Benson

markmoto wrote: »

since electric cars start replacing IC engines, CAT problems will go away in a few years time.

Long way off yet, some of the current cars will still be on the road in 20 years.

punisher5112

Lewis_Benson wrote: »

Long way off yet, some of the current cars will still be on the road in 20 years.

Well not if these roaming gang's have anything to say about it.

fryup

are turbo cars vulnerable?

magicbastarder

why wouldn't they be? they still need cats.

punisher5112

fryup wrote: »

are turbo cars vulnerable?

Any.... But they much prefer likes of hybrid Toyota, honda..... But will target anything that easily cut out.

markmoto

Lewis_Benson wrote: »

Long way off yet, some of the current cars will still be on the road in 20 years.

Perhaps people scrap IC enigne cars early with diesel/petrol price & road tax dramatic increase.
in 2008 my sister bought fiesta she was over the moon with 70 euro yearly road tax. Guess what this year is 300 euro already.

Atlantic Dawn

markmoto wrote: »

Perhaps people scrap IC enigne cars early with diesel/petrol price & road tax dramatic increase.
in 2008 my sister bought fiesta she was over the moon with 70 euro yearly road tax. Guess what this year is 300 euro already.

Not in Ireland, cheapest possible in 2008 was €100 which was up to 120g/C02. Right now up to 120g/CO2 is €200.