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Does Ireland have a drug problem or not?

  • 01-02-2019 12:12am
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    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭


    Not another Ireland bashing thread but just curious. When I mean drugs, I mean anything besides alcohol and weed. Lots of gents/gals in my college (won't say where) would be taking coke, mdma, and some even strong opiates like hydro and oxy (though apparently not as common here in western europe as it is in the U.S.)

    There body, there choice but there is a limit no? I don't think there's a worse problem here with drug abuse but maybe I'm wrong because the consensus seems to vary in different circles. Older folks with think anyone who snorts the white stuff is out of their mind and is going no where except on the streets whereas in circles of 25-40yr old businessmen in London and here, that's the norm x3 a week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001


    Problem is there's not enough to go round


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    It's certainly talked about more than back in my day.. but whether that's just due to the ease of talking about it nowadays thanks to social media, I'm not sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    The biggest drug problem we have in this country and all over the world are the ones handed over the counter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭utyh2ikcq9z76b


    We have a serious cocaine problem, the quality just isn't there, its cut to bits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    They cost double what do in other countries. A gram of top quality sniff can be had in Spain for €40 depending on your haggling skills (well my haggling skills) the same quality gram in Ireland costs 80-100 here unless yer buying weight, and even then it's still way overpriced compared to the rest of Europe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Yes of course there’s a drug problem. It’s blatantly obvious. I’d say about 70% of people in a pub at any time is on coke. Weed hash is no longer a massive issue. Coke is the main problem. MDMA is more s country thing. Ketamine is huge among younger groups. 18-25 year olds. Because it’s cheap as ****.
    Speaking from my past as someone that couldn’t go for s pint without cocaine it’s too easy to get and doesn’t take much persuasion to get some.
    So yes we do have s massive drug problem


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭corminators


    Don't think I've ever even been offered drugs :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    There body
    where body?


  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭Shoelaces


    Not even slightly. Heroin figures have steadily dropped and we have next to no use of crack in the country thank jaysus. As for Coke, its used but not on the 70% in a pub (ha!) some lad was saying above. Drugs are there but its not INCREDIBLY easy to get them. Only so much to go around once it finally reaches this part of Europe.


  • Site Banned Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    All the youth of today are on drugs. Gone is the day of going out and drinking a dozen pints.
    It’s a dozen yolks now and coke.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,615 ✭✭✭worded


    Wouldn’t be my scene but I heard a street report saying heroin was more difficult to get than crack cocaine and it’s cheaper at a tender a hit. The new VAT rate might push that to 11 euros with everyone rounding up.

    Crack is now being found in dublin drug raids

    We are on the brink of a Crack problem which should make for some interesting international headlines, the craic being mighty

    At least with Heroin the users would be chilled and monged for a few hours. With Crack the users are full of energy and violent. That’s not good, unless it’s you about to rob a bank and you are looking for some Colombian courage


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,844 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    Yes of course there’s a drug problem. It’s blatantly obvious. I’d say about 70% of people in a pub at any time is on coke. Weed hash is no longer a massive issue. Coke is the main problem. MDMA is more s country thing. Ketamine is huge among younger groups. 18-25 year olds. Because it’s cheap as ****.
    Speaking from my past as someone that couldn’t go for s pint without cocaine it’s too easy to get and doesn’t take much persuasion to get some.
    So yes we do have s massive drug problem
    I like a good crossword with my pint but each to their own


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Wouldn't know where to even buy any.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    We have several.

    1 - People have no idea what drugs are dangerous and what drugs aren't
    2 - People have no idea what drugs are addictive and what drugs aren't
    3 - People have no idea how what most of them do or how much should be used
    4 - We have drugs that people that depend on for their sense of well-being that are banned
    5 - There is no accurate and honest drug awareness programs for teenagers (or adults in some cases)

    And that's just off the top of my head.
    If the phrase "Nanny State" can ever be applied accurately to any situation, it's Irish drug laws.
    When I mean drugs, I mean anything besides alcohol and weed

    I know it's unlikely you'll answer this, OP, but I'll ask: why?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Shoelaces wrote: »
    Not even slightly. Heroin figures have steadily dropped and we have next to no use of crack in the country thank jaysus. As for Coke, its used but not on the 70% in a pub (ha!) some lad was saying above. Drugs are there but its not INCREDIBLY easy to get them. Only so much to go around once it finally reaches this part of Europe.


    Not sure where you live but in Dublin there is a massive Cocaine problem , ITs every where young kids still in school doing it every weekend,

    Hard to get you can't be serious ,
    If your on a GAA team or soccer team and over the age of 16 one text to the team's wats ap group and someone will know someone who is selling it, I don't think people realise how rampant it is ,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    The drug problem in my home town is unbelievable, you'd get a bag of coke here easier than the city centre, every pub toilet cistern is coated in vaseline to try deter would be users.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Shoelaces wrote: »
    Not even slightly. Heroin figures have steadily dropped and we have next to no use of crack in the country thank jaysus. As for Coke, its used but not on the 70% in a pub (ha!) some lad was saying above. Drugs are there but its not INCREDIBLY easy to get them. Only so much to go around once it finally reaches this part of Europe.
    Not sure where you live but in Dublin there is a massive Cocaine problem , ITs every where young kids still in school doing it every weekend,

    Hard to get you can't be serious ,
    If your on a GAA team or soccer team and over the age of 16 one text to the team's wats ap group and someone will know someone who is selling it, I don't think people realise how rampant it is ,

    I see it's make-your-own-****-up day

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I see it's make-your-own-stats-up day

    How did I make stat's up ?
    I said its every where, there are kids at school doing it every weekend which there are ,
    I'm part of a number of sports clubs and there are teens 17/18 still not finished school at it,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    How did I make stat's up ?
    I said its every where, there are kids at school doing it every weekend which there are ,
    I'm part of a number of sports clubs and there are teens 17/18 still not finished school at it,

    Fair enough, changed it to "****" instead if "stats", but my point is your claim ias baseless.

    The problem is, you think you're in a position to assume some 17/18 year olds in your association are taking drugs. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. I don't know. Safe to say you don't either (but if you do, how?) and you've used this to assume it happens "every where" and "every weekend" (which, stattitically, is highly unlikely to say the least) so you take this as fact and post it here.

    Claim is bull****: how could you possible know what happens everywhere?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 451 ✭✭hurler32


    Huge problem in rural Ireland with cocaine , travellers mostly selling it , young people with a few drinks been lured into it and hey presto they end up with a cocaine habit and the drug dealers watch the money rolling in as the young persons brain slowly but surely becomes fcuked up and they mess up their education and end up in a dead end job with mental health issues in their 30s ...
    Most towns and villages have no guards or else the guards are too busy bagging 70 year old women going to mass so the drug dealers are cleaning up and kicking the crap out of if not killing anyone that challenges them .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    How did I make stat's up ?
    I said its every where, there are kids at school doing it every weekend which there are ,
    I'm part of a number of sports clubs and there are teens 17/18 still not finished school at it,


    where are 17/18 year olds getting the money for cocaine every weekend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Fair enough, changed it to "****" instead if "stats", but my point is your claim ias baseless.

    The problem is, you think you're in a position to assume some 17/18 year olds in your association are taking drugs. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. I don't know. Safe to say you don't either (but if you do, how?) and you've used this to assume it happens "every where" so you take this as fact and post it here.

    Claim is bull****: how could you possible know what happens everywhere?

    Take your head out of the sand ,

    Its not a bull**** claim there are kids in almost every secondary school taking and selling coke , I went to what would be considered a well to do County Dublin school 20 years ago and it was happing only the odd few but it certainly happing ,

    I'm involved in a number of sports teams and spend week nights out on training pitches with late teens and you hear them talk openly about it ,People really have no idea how prevalent it is ,

    I'd say 90 % of there parents don't have a clue what going on ,

    Look in paper every day young school going teens arrested for possession


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    Head shops are still legal up the north. There are plenty of people going north and buying a supply of legal highs and re-selling them in the south.

    A local teacher told me there is one particular high called Purple Dragon I think, that some of the pupils in the school were taking. It has a similar effect as heroin where the person is zonked for the day, and it only cost €3 or €4 a hit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    where are 17/18 year olds getting the money for cocaine every weekend?

    They work in local supermarkets , Bar's , restaurants
    Some have left school and got jobs at 16 ,

    When where 18 it just didn't happen but be assured its the norm for kids in school now to know other's in there year at it ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    They work in local supermarkets , Bar's , restaurants
    Some have left school and got jobs at 16 ,

    When where 18 it just didn't happen but be assured its the norm for kids in school now to know other's in there year at it ,


    well fair play to them if they can afford it on minimum wage jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Take your head out of the sand ,

    Its not a bull**** claim there are kids in almost every secondary school taking and selling coke , I went to what would be considered a well to do County Dublin school 20 years ago and it was happing only the odd few but it certainly happing ,

    I'm involved in a number of sports teams and spend week nights out on training pitches with late teens and you hear them talk openly about it ,People really have no idea how prevalent it is ,

    I'd say 90 % of there parents don't have a clue what going on ,

    Look in paper every day young school going teens arrested for possession

    I'm not saying none of them are, I'm saying that the idea that it's every weekend is bull****. I'm an adult living in Berlin in full time employment and I have problems sometimes. And that's before we get to the expense part. How is a random 17 year old going to obtain and afford it?! We're talking drugs here. They don't just use a little pocket money and nip down to the local off-license and casually asking someone to nip in and get it for them.

    And they certainly are not so careless that they get overheard talking about it!! "Talking openly"...?! That's bull**** right there - and hilariously so!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    They work in local supermarkets , Bar's , restaurants
    Some have left school and got jobs at 16 ,

    When where 18 it just didn't happen but be assured its the norm for kids in school now to know other's in there year at it ,

    Out of interest, do you have any idea how much a gram of cocaine would actually cost? Care to hazard a guess?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    I dont get,,, if the above is true about all them on cocaine etc and not actually drinking much whats the attraction over drink? Few beers and knakker drinking was good fun. relaxing chilled. Is cocaine not like running around like a looper chewing the jaw of yourself? not exactly my idea of a great weekend after a long stressful working week lol:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I dont get,,, if the above is true about all them on cocaine etc and not actually drinking much whats the attraction over drink? Few beers and knakker drinking was good fun. relaxing chilled. Is cocaine not like running around like a looper chewing the jaw of yourself? not exactly my idea of a great weekend after a long stressful working week lol:confused:

    That's more ecstacy. Although similar, cocaine highs tend to be more intense, much shorter and without the jaw-clenching and MUCH more expensive.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I'm not saying none of them are, I'm saying that the idea that it's every weekend is bull****. I'm an adult living in Berlin in full time employment and I have problems sometimes. And that's before we get to the expense part. How is a random 17 year old going to obtain and afford it?! We're talking drugs here. They don't just use a little pocket money and nip down to the local off-license and casually asking someone to nip in and get it for them.

    And they certainly are not so careless that they get overheard talking about it!! "Talking openly"...?! That's bull**** right there - and hilariously so!

    You really have no clue do you ,

    You know the way an adult might drink 12 can's of beer and a teen may only be able for 4 , It's the same thing ,

    Lets say a grown adult pays 80/100euro for a bag of coke ,

    Many adults would go half's on one, so 40 euro/ 50 euro each and that would do them the night ,

    The dealer could sell, 40/50 euro bags if wants,

    These are teens they don't need to be speeding a fortune like some coke addicted adult would,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    That's more ecstacy. Although similar, cocaine highs tend to be more intense, much shorter and without the jaw-clenching and MUCH more expensive.


    and tend to be in addition to, and not instead of, alcohol. which makes it all the more expensive as you can drink like a fish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Out of interest, do you have any idea how much a gram of cocaine would actually cost? Care to hazard a guess?

    Who says they have to buy a gram ????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    IMO cocaine is everywhere now, and people aren't even trying to hide their use of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    And they certainly are not so careless that they get overheard talking about it!! "Talking openly"...?! That's bull**** right there - and hilariously so![/QUOTE]

    Look go up to a soccer or Gaa training session with 17/18 year olds in Dublin , You'll get a fare fright when you hear what they talk about openly ,

    Obviously if there Da is involved in the training session they tend to be quitter but the rest don't care, Plus there not always talking about themselves but other lads from school who aren't always involved in the teams .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,796 ✭✭✭sweetie


    Howaya Danny!
    hurler32 wrote: »
    Huge problem in rural Ireland with cocaine , travellers mostly selling it , young people with a few drinks been lured into it and hey presto they end up with a cocaine habit and the drug dealers watch the money rolling in as the young persons brain slowly but surely becomes fcuked up and they mess up their education and end up in a dead end job with mental health issues in their 30s ...
    Most towns and villages have no guards or else the guards are too busy bagging 70 year old women going to mass so the drug dealers are cleaning up and kicking the crap out of if not killing anyone that challenges them .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    You really have no clue do you ,

    You know the way an adult might drink 12 can's of beer and a teen may only be able for 4 , It's the same thing ,

    Lets say a grown adult pays 80/100euro for a bag of coke ,

    Many adults would go half's on one, so 40 euro/ 50 euro each and that would do them the night ,

    The dealer could sell, 40/50 euro bags if wants,

    These are teens they don't need to be speeding a fortune like some coke addicted adult would,

    Teenagers actually know and are mindful of their limits with drugs...? That's a new one.
    Who says they have to buy a gram ????

    The dealers. They tend to be very strict about that or it's not worth their while. They're also careful about who the sell to and people even close to looking under 18 will be ignored. It's one thing to be caught distributing, it's a whole new ball game if you're caught distributing to a minor. They have enough customers so that they can afford to be choosy who the have nothing to gain from falling into a potential sting operation.

    Of course, if could be an older relative obtaining it, but the amount of kids with that kind of access is minimal to say the least and completely rules out them doing it "every weekend".


    Your claim falls apart on several aspects: 1) mass access, 2)cost, 3)the idea that you actually overheard them talking about it (not to mention the fact that they were actually telling the truth and not just boasting, and 4) they're responsible with their useage (!!)

    Ultimately, it's not easy to get, to use and not cheap to get it for an adult, the idea that most teenagers have it every weekend simpley because you overheard an unlikely conversation completely laughable.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭akelly02


    I dont get,,, if the above is true about all them on cocaine etc and not actually drinking much whats the attraction over drink? Few beers and knakker drinking was good fun. relaxing chilled. Is cocaine not like running around like a looper chewing the jaw of yourself? not exactly my idea of a great weekend after a long stressful working week lol:confused:



    Its not really how youve described it. its just a different/better form of high really


  • Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Muckka


    I was at a party somewhere and coke was going around like cocktail sausages...

    I met a lady on a night out in Liscannor and herself and her friends rented a house in North Clare for the weekend.

    Most of her friends were paired up,so she asked me would I like to come back to a party.
    I wasn't drinking so I was able to drive us back to the holiday home.

    An extremely attractive lady in her mid 40's came up to me within 5 minutes asking me would I like a punch.
    Im totally out of the loop with drug culture and house parties, I'm a bit of a loan wolf.

    She had a tiny little spoon, and a bag of coke.
    I declined.
    She was shocked I wouldn't take a "punch" these were all very middle class Dublin people.
    They call coke "Banger"

    I could have been a guard, they didn't give a toss.
    I was way out of my league in social status, these people had high end jobs with lots of responsibility. All BMW's and Audi's parked outside.

    Anyhow I'm glad I'm not part of the drug or "banger" culture.

    They were snorting it like it's as casual as having a mint.

    They were nice pleasant people and they were intrigued with the native Clare guy who didn't drink or take drug's.

    Each to their own I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Teenagers actually know and are mindful of their limits with drugs...? That's a new one.



    The dealers. They tend to be very strict about that or it's not worth their while. They're also careful about who the sell to and people even close to looking under 18 will be ignored. It's one thing to be caught distributing, it's a whole new ball game if you're caught distributing to a minor. They have enough customers so that they can afford to be choosy who the have nothing to gain from falling into a potential sting operation.

    Of course, if could be an older relative obtaining it, but the amount of kids with that kind of access is minimal to say the least and completely rules out them doing it "every weekend".


    Your claim falls apart on several aspects: 1) mass access, 2)cost, 3)the idea that you actually overheard them talking about it (not to mention the fact that they were actually telling the truth and not just boasting, and 4) they're responsible with their useage (!!)

    Ultimately, it's not easy to get, to use and not cheap to get it for an adult, the idea that most teenagers have it every weekend simpley because you overheard an unlikely conversation completely laughable.

    I don't mean to be rude but your clueless,

    You've got your opinion of cocaine is from watching some movie from 1970 or something,

    What you said is like something the parish nun would tell you in the 80's its so so so wrong ,
    This is the problem most adults have no idea how bad it is,

    "They're also careful about who the sell to and people even close to looking under 18 will be ignored " you must be taking the absolute piss , teens sell drugs, a quick google of teen caught selling coke Dublin and hundreds will pop up ,


    The cost ? going half on a 1er bag would be 40/50 euro once a week , ?

    As I said get yourself up to a Soccer or GGA training session with late teen's and prepare for shock if you think they don't talk ,


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭magic_murph


    Muckka wrote: »
    I was at a party somewhere and coke was going around like cocktail sausages...

    I met a lady on a night out in Liscannor and herself and her friends rented a house in North Clare for the weekend.

    Most of her friends were paired up,so she asked me would I like to come back to a party.
    I wasn't drinking so I was able to drive us back to the holiday home.

    An extremely attractive lady in her mid 40's came up to me within 5 minutes asking me would I like a punch.
    Im totally out of the loop with drug culture and house parties, I'm a bit of a loan wolf.

    She had a tiny little spoon, and a bag of coke.
    I declined.
    She was shocked I wouldn't take a "punch" these were all very middle class Dublin people.
    They call coke "Banger"

    I could have been a guard, they didn't give a toss.
    I was way out of my league in social status, these people had high end jobs with lots of responsibility. All BMW's and Audi's parked outside.

    Anyhow I'm glad I'm not part of the drug or "banger" culture.

    They were snorting it like it's as casual as having a mint.

    They were nice pleasant people and they were intrigued with the native Clare guy who didn't drink or take drug's.

    Each to their own I suppose.

    But....did you get your hole or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I don't mean to be rude but your clueless,

    You've got your opinion of cocaine is from watching some movie from 1970 or something,

    What you said is like something the parish nun would tell you in the 80's its so so so wrong ,
    This is the problem most adults have no idea how bad it is,

    "They're also careful about who the sell to and people even close to looking under 18 will be ignored " you must be taking the absolute piss , teens sell drugs, a quick google of teen caught selling coke Dublin and hundreds will pop up ,


    The cost ? going half on a 1er bag would be 40/50 euro once a week , ?

    As I said get yourself up to a Soccer or GGA training session with late teen's and prepare for shock if you think they don't talk ,

    I live in Berlin and have access to it. I could get it when I'm back in Dublin, I don't because it's too expensive (try 60-80 euro - but full disclosure: that wasn't recent. Can't imagine it's gone down though) and the guy doesn't know me well enough. Far cry from what an 80s nun or 70s movie would tell me (which, even if you were correct, would not be even close to these sources would tell me (nuns used scare-tactics, I believe it's hyperbolic; and 70s movies glamourised the sale, I'm saying they're ultra-careful and realistic) so what nuns you knew and what movies you watched, once can only guess.

    BBuuuut - you overheard a coversation between some teenagers on a GAA pitch and that's enough to claim everyone else is cluless...??

    Also, while hiding behind the "clueless" ad homeinem, you haven't countered the flaws in your story that I highlighted:
    our claim falls apart on several aspects: 1) mass access, 2)cost, 3)the idea that you actually overheard them talking about it (not to mention the fact that they were actually telling the truth and not just boasting, and 4) they're responsible with their useage (!!).

    Care to try again, this time addressing the content?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Muckka


    But....did you get your hole or not?

    Of course, sure I did.
    Nothing better than being a novelty, I was intrigued with them as much as they me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I live in Berlin and have access to it. I could get it when I'm back in Dublin, I don't because it's too expensive (try 60-80 euro - but full disclosure: that wasn't recent. Can't imagine it's gone down though) and the guy doesn't know me well enough. Far cry from what an 80s nun or 70s movie would tell me (which, even if you were correct, would not be even close to these sources would tell me. Nuns used scare-tactics; 70s movies glamourised it).

    BBuuuut - you overheard a coversation between some teenagers on a GAA pitch and that's enough to claim everyone else is cluless...??

    Also, you haven't countered the flaws in your story that I highlighted:



    Care to try again, this time addressing the content instead of bailing out on an ad homeinem?


    I'll say it again you are totally clueless,

    Adults share a 1er bag so that 40 /50 euro , Can a teen not afford 40 euro at a weekend ? Dealers can break a bag down to whatever price they want to sell it ,

    You seem to think theses teens are buying it of drug kingpin's themselves ,
    There buying it off other teens and lads in there early 20's who don't give a crap were the money comes form as long as they have the cash to pay off the next person in the chain

    Did you use your google, There are teens getting caught selling Heroin let alone coke, .

    There are no flaws in the story its obvious you are totally unaware of what goes on in the City you lived in ,

    Drugs especially cocaine are rampant in Ireland, its a FACT bury your head in the sand all you want ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock



    Care to try again, this time addressing the content?
    I'll say it again you are totally clueless,

    Adults share a 1er bag so that 40 /50 euro , Can a teen not afford 40 euro at a weekend ? Dealers can break a bag down to whatever price they want to sell it ,

    You seem to think theses teens are buying it of drug kingpin's themselves ,
    There buying it off other teens and lads in there early 20's who don't give a crap were the money comes form as long as they have the cash to pay off the next person in the chain

    Did you use your google, There are teens getting caught selling Heroin let alone coke, .

    There are no flaws in the story its obvious you are totally unaware of what goes on in the City you lived in ,

    Drugs especially cocaine are rampant in Ireland, its a FACT bury your head in the sand all you want ,

    Another ad homeinem. Guess you don't care to try again, then.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Another ad homeinem. Guess you don't, then.

    Its freighting how unware people are,

    You didn't answer any of my question

    Could a 17/18 teen not afford 40 euro on a weekend ?
    Did you use your google machine there and just have look at the ages of dealers being caught daily ?

    Have you ever been around a large group of 17-18 lads from Dublin , Cork wherever do you honestly think they would be shy about talking about the local going on's ?

    You think drugs are hard to get in Dublin , im not joking when i say one text into a wat's ap group for these teens and they would be sorted,

    It's a horrible cancer on our society and its a scary place to raise kids in as if we keep sticking our heads in the sand like yourself there, it will only get worse,
    As a parent it worries me greatly for my own kids when they are late teens in school but hopefully the fact im not blissfully ignorant of it may help me steer them away form it ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,003 ✭✭✭enricoh


    No offence princess consuela but u haven't a clue.
    U can get 4 e's for a tenner where i am, god only knows whats in them. All the new designer drugs dirt cheap too.
    Difficult to get - hilarious, harder for a 15 year old to get cans than drugs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Shoelaces wrote: »
    Not even slightly. Heroin figures have steadily dropped and we have next to no use of crack in the country thank jaysus. As for Coke, its used but not on the 70% in a pub (ha!) some lad was saying above. Drugs are there but its not INCREDIBLY easy to get them. Only so much to go around once it finally reaches this part of Europe.

    Guess you don’t live in Dublin then do you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,885 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Guess you don’t live in Dublin then do you

    I refuse to believe someone is that far from reality
    I think she is just arguing for the sake of arguing .

    The line about a drug dealer wouldn't sell to someone who looks under 18 is taking the absolute mick ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001


    The vast majority of people's heroes are on drugs

    Johnny cash, eminem, chill peppers and the Beatles are my favourite artists. Every type of drug.

    I like the rock. Christian bale. Steroids.

    I listen to a bit of joe rogan podcasts. Loads of drugs.

    The vast majority of international reality tv stars use or used drugs


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