ESB eCars

AndyBoBandy

ELM327 wrote: »

That would be a better install than all but 3 ecars setups now. (the hpc+50kW is better, marginally, due to 150kW)

I agree the 150kW unit is much better for obvious reasons, but those sites are still so limited as they are, and I'd guess they'll be like that for years...

limited to 2 CCS cars charging simultaneously with 1 car using the CHAdeMO, or 2 on CHAdeMO and 1 on CCS.. (and unless a Zoe can create a 4th space and stretch the AC43 cable, the AC would be useless if 3 cars are already there charging!!).

What if 3 Leaf's show up at the same time, or 3 ID.3's

If they insist on installing the 150kW units as 1 CCS & 1 CHAdeMO plug, then they need at least 2 50kW units beside it. The absolute minimum requirement for being called a 'hub' should be 3 of any type of plug charging simultaneously, like that site in Coventry..


and has anyone actually seen 150kW from any of these hyper speed units yet? or even 140kW?

AndyBoBandy

Since restrictions first started back on March 13th 2020 (when the schools first closed & the day we picked up our Model 3), there has been a hell of a lot of new EV's sold.. a couple of thousand anyway...

If by some miracle the country gets it's act together and reduces the covid cases to manageable levels again, and internal country travel is permitted again, there will suddenly be a lot of EV's traversing the country, and the eCars network will be found out for what it is... inadequate..

maybe not even this year, but with vaccines and tougher cross border travel restrictions, roads will be busy again... and I'm seeing new EV's on the road every day.

ELM327

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

I agree the 150kW unit is much better for obvious reasons, but those sites are still so limited as they are, and I'd guess they'll be like that for years...

limited to 2 CCS cars charging simultaneously with 1 car using the CHAdeMO, or 2 on CHAdeMO and 1 on CCS.. (and unless a Zoe can create a 4th space and stretch the AC43 cable, the AC would be useless if 3 cars are already there charging!!).

What if 3 Leaf's show up at the same time, or 3 ID.3's

If they insist on installing the 150kW units as 1 CCS & 1 CHAdeMO plug, then they need at least 2 50kW units beside it. The absolute minimum requirement for being called a 'hub' should be 3 of any type of plug charging simultaneously, like that site in Coventry..


and has anyone actually seen 150kW from any of these hyper speed units yet? or even 140kW?

Yes, I got 105kW, but that is due to my nerf, I saw someone with a M3 get 145kW

slave1

I ramped to 120kW in my 2015 Model S during the Summer, dropped straight away to 113kW, after that left to get some grub (Galway Plaza).
Battery was in mid-teens and warm after 1.5hrs drive from Kylemore Abbey

rocketspocket

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Since restrictions first started back on March 13th 2020 (when the schools first closed & the day we picked up our Model 3), there has been a hell of a lot of new EV's sold.. a couple of thousand anyway...

If by some miracle the country gets it's act together and reduces the covid cases to manageable levels again, and internal country travel is permitted again, there will suddenly be a lot of EV's traversing the country, and the eCars network will be found out for what it is... inadequate..

maybe not even this year, but with vaccines and tougher cross border travel restrictions, roads will be busy again... and I'm seeing new EV's on the road every day.

Agree 100% - had a trip up north last week as my mother needed shopping and it was a nightmare - only 1 fast charger at the services on the M1 so had to wait 30 minutes (8 free telsa chargers). how can anyone think that 1 fast charger for a motorway service station is adequate.. was the lowest point of owning an EV to date.

ELM327

This is why you need to buy a Tesla tbh, or a car supported by anyone else with a charging network (like Ionity) that provide adequate fast charging support.

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ELM327 wrote: »

This is why you need to buy a Tesla tbh, or a car supported by anyone else with a charging network (like Ionity) that provide adequate fast charging support.

And this is the reason I have purchased a Tesla M3. Okay fair there are not many Superchargers around yet but they are there if needed

AndyBoBandy

rocketspocket wrote: »

Agree 100% - had a trip up north last week as my mother needed shopping and it was a nightmare - only 1 fast charger at the services on the M1 so had to wait 30 minutes (8 free telsa chargers). how can anyone think that 1 fast charger for a motorway service station is adequate.. was the lowest point of owning an EV to date.

Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs when in 2021 this is your only ESB option roughly half way between Dublin & Belfast!!

rocketspocket

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs when in 2021 this is your only ESB option roughly half way between Dublin & Belfast!!

saw that placeholder for the second charger spot and that annoyed me even further - was wondering how long that had been there for and when (if) the 'second' charger will appear - oh, the forecourt has about 20 diesel/petrol pumps - slight difference

AndyBoBandy

rocketspocket wrote: »

saw that placeholder for the second charger spot and that annoyed me even further - was wondering how long that had been there for and when (if) the 'second' charger will appear

I believe it was an AC unit that they removed years ago....

It's the same on both sides of the motorway... (so 16 Tesla units in total, 2 ESB units).

unkel

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

and has anyone actually seen 150kW from any of these hyper speed units yet? or even 140kW?

I saw 130kW from the Galway plaza one last month. But I was fairly empty and the speed started dropping off straight away. 2014 Tesla Model S.

liamog

Mod Note: Moved OT Supercharger Open Access discussion to https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058154416

MJohnston

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs when in 2021 this is your only ESB option roughly half way between Dublin & Belfast!!

It's not the only ESB option tbf — there's one at Banbridge and another at Sprucefield.

I've made the trip a few times in an i3 and it's really not that worrisome. You can fairly easily manage South Dublin to Belfast on a single charge in an i3, so the majority of newer EVs should have no problem doing it.

the_amazing_raisin

MJohnston wrote: »

It's not the only ESB option tbf — there's one at Banbridge and another at Sprucefield.

I've made the trip a few times in an i3 and it's really not that worrisome. You can fairly easily manage South Dublin to Belfast on a single charge in an i3, so the majority of newer EVs should have no problem doing it.

It's not great in a Leaf24, the other chargers aren't well placed so you really only have the option of Castle Bellingham

I suppose the one upside is that there's another charger the other way, so if one is broken you're only a 10 mins detour from the other one and won't be stuck

MJohnston

cruisey1987 wrote: »

It's not great in a Leaf24, the other chargers aren't well placed so you really only have the option of Castle Bellingham

I suppose the one upside is that there's another charger the other way, so if one is broken you're only a 10 mins detour from the other one and won't be stuck

There are some off-route chargers too that could be used in a pinch, say if you had a Chademo vehicle and couldn't use Ionity

Actually the Ionity placement is fairly useless — it's too close to Dublin when you're heading north and too far from Belfast when you're heading south. It'd have been better the other side of Drogheda.

AndyBoBandy

MJohnston wrote: »

It's not the only ESB option tbf — there's one at Banbridge and another at Sprucefield.

Both in Northern Ireland though, and Northern Ireland isn't exactly top of ESB's 'must maintain' region is it?

Have at look the last 5 check-in's for Banbridge on PlugShare.... Would you like to be arriving here desperate for a charge??



Sprucefield looks fairly reliable, but it's hardly midway between Dublin & Belfast is it?

Castlebellingham is roughly half way, and an ideal place to put a charging hub (the clue is the fact Tesla have a hub there). Imagine a hub like that one in Coventry, 3 units, each with 3 different plug types, 150kW will run all 3 units.

the_amazing_raisin

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Both in Northern Ireland though, and Northern Ireland isn't exactly top of ESB's 'must maintain' region is it?

Have at look the last 5 check-in's for Banbridge on PlugShare.... Would you like to be arriving here desperate for a charge??



Sprucefield looks fairly reliable, but it's hardly midway between Dublin & Belfast is it?

Castlebellingham is roughly half way, and an ideal place to put a charging hub (the clue is the fact Tesla have a hub there). Imagine a hub like that one in Coventry, 3 units, each with 3 different plug types, 150kW will run all 3 units.

I thought the "don't come near here" comment was referencing something else like your car would get set on fire

A nice 8x150kW Fastned hub would be great in Castlebellingham

liamog

cruisey1987 wrote: »

I thought the "don't come near here" comment was referencing something else like your car would get set on fire

A nice 8x150kW Fastned hub would be great in Castlebellingham

I'm originally from Banbridge, any more talk like that and I'm abusing my mod power !

I was up there a couple of months ago, the petrol station was closed down, it's a very isolated place for a charger, I prefer to fill up at Castlebellingham.

Black_Knight

Few more AC updates. Galway techs are busy. Barrack street in Loughrea, and Irish rail in Athenry both using the new eVolve Smart T AC units

What's the story with the DC charger at GMC house off the Cappagh road ? ZAP Map shows it as ESB but the ESB don't have it on their map ?

the_amazing_raisin

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What's the story with the DC charger at GMC house off the Cappagh road ? ZAP Map shows it as ESB but the ESB don't have it on their map ?

My guess is someone put down the wrong provider, it's on plug surfing as an ESB 22kW AC unit so it's anyone's guess as to what's there, if anything

There's a 44kW Chademo in the Nissan dealership nearby, maybe someone mistook that for an ESB unit

Silent Running

cruisey1987 wrote: »

My guess is someone put down the wrong provider, it's on plug surfing as an ESB 22kW AC unit so it's anyone's guess as to what's there, if anything

There's a 44kW Chademo in the Nissan dealership nearby, maybe someone mistook that for an ESB unit

I seem to remember that it's the ESB sports club or something like that. From memory, it's not publicly accessible, it's for their own staff.

zg3409

Deleted User wrote: »

What's the story with the DC charger at GMC house off the Cappagh road ? ZAP Map shows it as ESB but the ESB don't have it on their map ?

One charger ID is from Dublin port, other is from Lifford Donegal. Presume its a mistake

zg3409

zg3409 wrote: »

One charger ID is from Dublin port, other is from Lifford Donegal. Presume its a mistake

Probably, it's not on the E-Cars site anyway so I assume it is a mistake.

ELM327

Black_Knight wrote: »

Texaco (Mace & Supermacs), N4, Ballinalack popped up as having a circontrol raption 50 Unit (the new DC units they've been installing) yesterday. It's back to being the old CHAdeMO only unit now, but signs it's going to be replaced. A replacement, but at least another CCS head installed.

(quoted from the new charger thread)


This is a good location, finally getting a CCS upgrade! I have the chademo adapter but it never worked here as the chad only unit was too old.

eagerv

Luckily I didn't need a charge this morning, but was in the area of this charger in Waterford so dropped in to have a look. Was working fine last week..

innrain

eagerv wrote: »

Luckily I didn't need a charge this morning, but was in the area of this charger in Waterford so dropped in to have a look. Was working fine last week..

Is 1st today. Probably he didn't get his rent

Silent Running

eagerv wrote: »

Luckily I didn't need a charge this morning, but was in the area of this charger in Waterford so dropped in to have a look. Was working fine last week..

I wonder what would happen if you went into the shop and asked to use the charger. I know you shouldn't have to... but.

the_amazing_raisin

innrain wrote: »

Is 1st today. Probably he didn't get his rent

Maybe ECars got fed up of paying and are moving the charger

eagerv

Silent Running wrote: »

I wonder what would happen if you went into the shop and asked to use the charger. I know you shouldn't have to... but.

You don't have to.. He always appears whenever an EV turns up:D