ESB eCars

the_amazing_raisin · 21-05-2021 10:48am

Black_Knight wrote: »

A test? Now? They have 31 of those units deployed. Who do they think they are testing after deploying! Volkswagen!?

Timed charge failed again?

I guess GMC must have gotten some electric vans so they need a charger. Dunno why they couldn't get one of their own

Can't wait for the next time the eCars server goes down, the poor GMC lads won't be able to go out to fix anything :rolleyes:

Black_Knight · 21-05-2021 10:51am

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Timed charge failed again?

I guess GMC must have gotten some electric vans so they need a charger. Dunno why they couldn't get one of their own

Can't wait for the next time the eCars server goes down, the poor GMC lads won't be able to go out to fix anything :rolleyes:

Not yet. Too much range to need to charge it that frequently. Only at 51% now.

the_amazing_raisin · 21-05-2021 11:12am

Black_Knight wrote: »

Not yet. Too much range to need to charge it that frequently. Only at 51% now.

Yeah I'm at 76%, have to run it down a bit more so I can plug it in and make sure it'll charge

I dunno what I'm going to do with all this battery capacity, I feel like I have to do a road trip just to justify it

bodgerfederer · 21-05-2021 5:44pm

Gorey services; 1 Nissan Leaf charging, 2 more queuing. Very glad I went for a car with css charging and the presence of ionity. However, this might be the shape of things to come; esb needs to up their game.

AndyBoBandy · 21-05-2021 5:59pm

bodgerfederer wrote: »

Gorey services; 1 Nissan Leaf charging, 2 more queuing. Very glad I went for a car with css charging and the presence of ionity. However, this might be the shape of things to come; esb needs to up their game.

I’ve been saying, it’s gonna be some fun this summer at the sites where eCars are the only gig in town!!!

AndyBoBandy · 21-05-2021 6:03pm

Meanwhile at a Supercharger near you……

It’s not just the new BEV’s you’ll be competing with….

the_amazing_raisin · 21-05-2021 6:06pm

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Meanwhile at a Supercharger near you……

It’s not just the new BEV’s you’ll be competing with….

Saw one at Castlebellingham southbound as well

I really don't get the logic of charging a PHEV off a DC charger

KCross · 21-05-2021 6:26pm

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

I really don't get the logic of charging a PHEV off a DC charger

Thats an easy one to answer... its like the question "why climb a mountain"?.... because I can!

Dont expect to get a logical answer to the question!

kanuseeme · 21-05-2021 6:35pm

Its simple and logical enough, its cheaper than petrol and time to spare, unlike the tesla which had to stop and charge.

KCross · 21-05-2021 6:39pm

kanuseeme wrote: »

Its simple and logical enough, its cheaper than petrol and time to spare, unlike the tesla which had to stop and charge.

You'd want alot of time to spare though! Who would want to spend several hours in one of these places to save a few cent when you can just drive on and burn petrol.

The amount you would add in a typical 30min stop at 3.6kW is just not worth the effort, imo, but YMMV.

liamog · 21-05-2021 7:20pm

kanuseeme wrote: »

Its simple and logical enough, its cheaper than petrol and time to spare, unlike the tesla which had to stop and charge.

It's not logical at all to plug a 330e into a FastAC charger. The maximum saving vs petrol will be around €1.

kanuseeme · 21-05-2021 7:29pm

KCross wrote: »

You'd want alot of time to spare though! Who would want to spend several hours in one of these places to save a few cent when you can just drive on and burn petrol.

The amount you would add in a typical 30min stop at 3.6kW is just not worth the effort, imo, but YMMV.

Obviously spending time to charge would be plain stupid, which is why I don't see the owner of phev taking pictures or waiting in the car.

:D:D

Hardly any effort, swipe card plug in and go about your business, I would consider a greater hardship to add 30 minutes or more to a long drive just to save a few euro. But YMMV

Yea its a shame its only 3.7 kW, my outlander can get 16 kW.

kanuseeme · 21-05-2021 7:56pm

liamog wrote: »

It's not logical at all to plug a 330e into a FastAC charger. The maximum saving vs petrol will be around €1.

its his €1, I don't know, what to say, if it was only what most like to believe only a few cents, which is better to burn petrol or use the 330e emission-free?

Someone else would complain about the owners never plugging the thing in, really hard know what to do or say.

liamog · 21-05-2021 8:02pm

kanuseeme wrote: »

its his €1, I don't know, what to say, if it was only what most like to believe only a few cents, which is better to burn petrol or use the 330e emission-free?

I bet the same driver would say no if someone offered them €1 to park at the back of the car park instead of closer to the door.

AndyBoBandy · 21-05-2021 8:05pm

No issue with a 330e plugging into an AC43 at a motorway services…. (If anything it helps the usage stats, and maybe to encourage eCars to expand at that particular site)

The issue is when a Zoe pulls in and it needs a charge… (or any BEV that could get a few precious kWh while the CHAdeMO/CCS is being used).

MightyMunster · 21-05-2021 8:08pm

boccy23 wrote: »

Pulled in yesterday to the Circle K station at Ballacolla on the M8 to charge. Used the CCS charger but the cable is so short that I could only use it on the Right Hand of the two charger points.

If I had to use the Left Hand one, no way the cable would have reached. Is this normal? Seems crazy and could result in me not being able to charge even if only one point is being used.

I have an ID4 with charging point at the rear driver's side.

Shows the big advantage Tesla have. All these motorway hubs need a minimum of 4 units. Having a single charger is just not reliable if you're planning to arrive with a low SOC.

kanuseeme · 21-05-2021 8:10pm

liamog wrote: »

I bet the same driver would say no if someone offered them €1 to park at the back of the car park instead of closer to the door.

Why are you trying to demean that driver?

Offer him 2 euro.

In all fairness, what are you trying to say?

kanuseeme · 21-05-2021 8:15pm

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

No issue with a 330e plugging into an AC43 at a motorway services…. (If anything it helps the usage stats, and maybe to encourage eCars to expand at that particular site)

The issue is when a Zoe pulls in and it needs a charge… (or any BEV that could get a few precious kWh while the CHAdeMO/CCS is being used).

Well he better get used to it, and any BEV driver for that matter, at least tesla have 4 stalls, but how many more cars do tesla need to sell to start clogging up those 4?

AndyBoBandy · 21-05-2021 8:21pm

kanuseeme wrote: »

Well he better get used to it, and any BEV driver for that matter, at least tesla have 4 stalls, but how many more cars do tesla need to sell to start clogging up those 4?

Tesla have 8 stalls there (16 if you include the 8 on the other side of the carriageway…), so I think we’ll be grand for another while yet.

markpb · 21-05-2021 9:29pm

kanuseeme wrote: »

Well he better get used to it, and any BEV driver for that matter, at least tesla have 4 stalls, but how many more cars do tesla need to sell to start clogging up those 4?

Not only do Tesla have vastly more stalls per location, they also charge significantly faster than most cars will at an eCars 50kW charge point so the capacity is greater again.

If only they had a few more sites on IC routes :-/

AndyBoBandy · 21-05-2021 9:38pm

markpb wrote: »

If only they had a few more sites on IC routes :-/

Getting there….
Sandyford & Enfield now have planning permission.. (Enfield permission to be confirmed this week).

the_amazing_raisin · 21-05-2021 10:14pm

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Getting there….
Sandyford & Enfield now have planning permission.. (Enfield permission to be confirmed this week).

I saw one at Castlebellingham has a cover over it with Coming Soon written on it

Surely it's been there for years already

AndyBoBandy · 21-05-2021 10:51pm

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

I saw one at Castlebellingham has a cover over it with Coming Soon written on it

Surely it's been there for years already

Yeah, it’s out of service….. hardly noticeable though, I was the only car there last week…

When I arrived there was a guy in an ID.4 faffing about with the eCars unit… I plugged in, went into the shop to relieve myself and buy a coffee, and when I came back out, he was still faffing about trying to start a charge… meanwhile I was pulling about 80kW, and ready to leave before I finished the coffee..

Was it you? Last Thursday about 11:45am? I was in the white Model 3.

the_amazing_raisin · 22-05-2021 10:07pm

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Yeah, it’s out of service….. hardly noticeable though, I was the only car there last week…

When I arrived there was a guy in an ID.4 faffing about with the eCars unit… I plugged in, went into the shop to relieve myself and buy a coffee, and when I came back out, he was still faffing about trying to start a charge… meanwhile I was pulling about 80kW, and ready to leave before I finished the coffee..

Was it you? Last Thursday about 11:45am? I was in the white Model 3.

No I was there Friday, first long spin with the ID.4. I didn't even bother charging, just got done grub and chilled out for a while

Swords to Castlebellingham and back and used less than 50% of the battery with some fairly inefficient driving

The Leaf would need a long charge at Castlebellingham to get back home

23-05-2021 12:01pm

Anyone know how to find just the 150 Kw charging sites from the ESB ?

Shame the map doesn't allow you filter by charger power.

cannco253 · 23-05-2021 1:43pm

WattsUp allows you to filter >50kW units and shows an icon for the provider, and it works on CarPlay.

I can't see a way of doing this on ecars, best you can do is add them as favourites
https://esb.ie/ecars/our-network/network-upgrades

Between Junction 2 and 3, Kilcullen, Co Kildare (M9)
Galway Plaza, Junction 6, Kiltullagh, Co Galway (M6)
Portlaoise Plaza, Junction 17, Portlaoise (M7/8)
Kells, Co Meath (M4),
Kilmartin Service Station, Athlone (N6)
Lunney's Service Station, Sligo Road, Carrick on Shannon (N4)
The charging configuration at these locations are 1x 44-50KW and 1x 150KW and capable of charging up to 3 vehicles simultaneously.

Further hub locations planned include:

Mullingar, Co Westmeath
Oranmore, Co Galway
Lahey, Co Donegal
Junction 14, Mayfield

AndyBoBandy · 23-05-2021 4:19pm

I used the hyperSpeed150 unit at Kilmartin today.

Jesus it’s in an absolutely horrendous location!!!!!
It’s hidden away at the back of the garage, and a wrong direction (because it’s not signposted) and you end up on the wrong side of it!!!!

Then when you’re finished and want to leave, you have to join the queue for the McDonads Drive Thru to exit the place…

Talk about bad planning………

If I was passing Athlone in anger and needed a charge, I’d pay the premium and use the Ionity instead…….

slave1 · 23-05-2021 5:10pm

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

I used the hyperSpeed150 unit at Kilmartin today.

Jesus it’s in an absolutely horrendous location!!!!!
It’s hidden away at the back of the garage, and a wrong direction (because it’s not signposted) and you end up on the wrong side of it!!!!

Then when you’re finished and want to leave, you have to join the queue for the McDonads Drive Thru to exit the place…

Talk about bad planning………

If I was passing Athlone in anger and needed a charge, I’d pay the premium and use the Ionity instead…….

Yep, maybe you can remember my post about that from the eCars expansion thread.
One thing though, just drive left after charging and you don't need to join the McD's queue, so that's drive left and take first right.
It is confusing

the_amazing_raisin · 23-05-2021 5:40pm

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Then when you’re finished and want to leave, you have to join the queue for the McDonads Drive Thru to exit the place…

Talk about bad planning……….

Or excellent planning if you own the McDonald's

Puts new meaning to captive audience

Busman Paddy Lasty · 23-05-2021 9:58pm

bodgerfederer wrote: »

Gorey services; 1 Nissan Leaf charging, 2 more queuing. Very glad I went for a car with css charging and the presence of ionity. However, this might be the shape of things to come; esb needs to up their game.

Gorey services today. Leaf on ESB charge point. All four Ionity stalls in use. Another EV rolled in when we were waiting. Yikes!

Would like to see eCars seriously crack on with the next 40 x 3-8 car hubs.

ESB eCars

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