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Gardai cricitise paedophile hunters

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Cartroubles


    So much scum in one video. At least the locals took a break from stealing and vandalising cars I guess.


  • Registered Users Posts: 401 ✭✭soiseztomabel


    TallGlass wrote: »
    She's live now.

    She got a box in the head.

    Five security with her protecting the fella.

    She says it sounds worse than it was.

    Of course she would claim that, that’s called damage control. This is a prime example of what happens when you send a bunch of untrained apes into a volatile situation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Won't do anything to the 'case'. Garda told them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Says she didn't give out the location, gave a different location.

    She is damage control mode now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭safeasparagus


    I saw a different angle, its floating around on social media. It literally is as bad as it sounds. She is in damage limitation mode now

    There’s another video ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Admitted there, no law in Ireland to deal with this. She can only expose these people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,899 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I saw a different angle, its floating around on social media. It literally is as bad as it sounds. She is in damage limitation mode now

    Yes, I saw the second video filmed from a different angle.

    It shows just how dangerous vigilantism is. One of the yobs could simply have pulled out a knife and stabbed the suspect to death (it wouldn't even be a surprise given how violent the incident looked).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Admitted there, no law in Ireland to deal with this. She can only expose these people.

    That's the problem. The alleged paedo broke no Irish law. In the UK, it is an offence. But when the Gardai are powerless, people will take the law into their own hands. The solution is to correct the legislation and make this type of grooming an offence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Won't do anything to the 'case'. Garda told them.
    What case?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Says she didn't give out the location, gave a different location.

    She is damage control mode now.
    She will be getting a visit from the authorities.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,899 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Dante7 wrote: »
    That's the problem. The alleged paedo broke no Irish law. In the UK, it is an offence. But when the Gardai are powerless, people will take the law into their own hands. The solution is to correct the legislation and make this type of grooming an offence.

    It already is an offence. The difference between Ireland and the UK is that the authorities here are refusing to have anything to do with vigilante gangs or accept their 'evidence' in court (same with the PSNI in the north).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    There’s another video ?


    Yup its floating around on Facebook and Watsapp you will no doubt come across it if you use those platforms. There is a garage right across the road from the house he is sitting at and it is taken from this vantage point. You can see clearly a few serious digs flying at him, straight to the head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Yup its floating around on Facebook and Watsapp you will no doubt come across it if you use those platforms. There is a garage right across the road from the house he is sitting at and it is taken from this vantage point. You can see clearly a few serious digs flying at him, straight to the head.

    Haven't been able to view a clip of the action yet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    A link to the second video would be helpful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    Video on Only in Dublin facebook page.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,330 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    They don't deserve punishment, they deserve...gunishment



  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭safeasparagus


    Video on Only in Dublin facebook page.

    Anyway to see it if you don’t have a Facebook account ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    Anyway to see it if you don’t have a Facebook account ?

    no idea


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose




  • Registered Users Posts: 29,101 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    TallGlass wrote: »
    She's live now.

    She got a box in the head.

    Five security with her protecting the fella.

    She says it sounds worse than it was.


    i'm going to assume that the "security" are not lisenced by the private security authority of ireland or any out of state lisencing authority if by chance they are not from ireland.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭EPAndlee


    Chris Hansen done this job without so much as even raising his voice


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    The question is whether these "paedophiles" would ever actually commit an offence if it wasn't for the artificial set-up. Real 14 year olds are quite streetwise these days and the targets getting trapped all seem to be losers who are a bit simple-probably not actual paedophiles, but desperate enough to take a chance when the rare possibility of sex was dangled in front of them.
    I wonder how many of that mob that attacked him were hassling 12, 13, and 14 year olds for sex just a few years ago? What's the rate of teen pregnancies in the Ballyfermot area and is it normal practice for the scrotes responsible to be tracked down and beaten?
    As for the woman "in charge" here, just listen to the way she says "f u c k" when referring to child abuse. That is not the language of someone with genuine concerns for children's welfare.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    Strazdas wrote: »
    It already is an offence. The difference between Ireland and the UK is that the authorities here are refusing to have anything to do with vigilante gangs or accept their 'evidence' in court (same with the PSNI in the north).


    What offence ??
    Grooming a minor is an offence.
    Grooming an adult pretending to be a minor isn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    What offence ??
    Grooming a minor is an offence.
    Grooming an adult pretending to be a minor isn't.
    Which is why the Gardaí refuse to arrest any of the vigilantes suspects. Of course they never show this on their videos.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,899 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    What offence ??
    Grooming a minor is an offence.
    Grooming an adult pretending to be a minor isn't.

    That's my very point. Grooming an actual underage person is a criminal offence in Ireland : 'grooming' an adult vigilante isn't.

    Listening in to that FB video, you can see why the Gardai want nothing to do with these groups, we're talking about the dregs of society here. That mob and the lead female vigilante set off a serious disturbance on the streets today, could nearly have spiralled completely out of control into a riot.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    sabat wrote: »
    The question is whether these "paedophiles" would ever actually commit an offence if it wasn't for the artificial set-up.
    A 50-year-old man in one of the videos allegedly asked a girl whom he believed to be an eleven-year-old for naked pictures, and planned to meet her for sex.

    That's not something you do just because some supposed eleven-year-old harlot has groomed you. I find it hard to believe these men are upstanding members of society who were tricked into their bad decisions, and have never before done anything of that kind.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ringogo wrote: »
    Might expose a irish Jimmy Saville, and we can't have that.
    What other answer can there be for such low prison sentences for paedophiles?
    Could it be its rampant in the circles that make the laws and set the prison terms?

    More likely that it's just not rampant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    They should spend a bit more time hunting the filthy bastards themselves.

    Too busy at checkpoints.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    Strazdas wrote: »
    It already is an offence. The difference between Ireland and the UK is that the authorities here are refusing to have anything to do with vigilante gangs or accept their 'evidence' in court (same with the PSNI in the north).

    Really?

    Because I read up thread about parents going to the Garda regarding their kids and grown men sending them ‘messages’ and nothing being done?

    I also know of one case locally myself where Garda said there wasn’t much they could do.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭Garibaldi?


    These mobs consist of ignorant pond-life They would turn on anybody for any reason. They are not accountable because they have nothing to lose!


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