Gardai cricitise paedophile hunters

Bigmac1euro · 08-08-2019 3:22pm

victor8600 wrote: »

Why do you propagate a video like this?

Video removed

Midnight_EG · 08-08-2019 3:23pm

Who says he died?

Bigmac1euro · 08-08-2019 3:24pm

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Who says he died?

Can’t see anyone making it out of that alive. Head first into a large transit van doing 60. It clearly rolls over him as well.

Midnight_EG · 08-08-2019 3:26pm

Bigmac1euro wrote: »

Can’t see anyone making it out of that alive. Head first into a large transit van doing 60. It clearly rolls over him as well.

I've seen it, you can hear him shouting afterwords. The van stopped nearly in time too.

Suckit · 08-08-2019 3:27pm

Bigmac1euro wrote: »

Can’t see anyone making it out of that alive. Head first into a large transit van doing 60. It clearly rolls over him as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6agXn3fVnRs

Bigmac1euro · 08-08-2019 3:29pm

Midnight_EG wrote: »

I've seen it, you can hear him shouting afterwords. The van stopped nearly in time too.

You definitely can’t hear him scream from the video I’ve seen anyway.
This isn’t the point I think he was trying to end his life.
Going a bit off topic here.

GooglePlus · 08-08-2019 3:35pm

I'd condone these groups if they were actually professional about it all and not a bunch of jobless knuckledraggers looking for attention.

Going about mad to tell everyone about what they do but all they have to do is go to the guards with the evidence they have. The facebook videos are nothing but tripe.

victor8600 · 08-08-2019 3:39pm

Bigmac1euro wrote: »

S... The video made me think is it time for these groups to be stopped?...

Vigilantism is outlawed in the absolute majority of states. This is just a question of the police not doing their job properly. The police should hunt down pedophiles and vigilantes too.

dave1982 · 08-08-2019 3:54pm

This happened in England?

Bigmac1euro · 08-08-2019 3:56pm

dave1982 wrote: »

This happened in England?

Yes by the looks of it.

Prestonites · 08-08-2019 3:57pm

In against these groups as they have named innocents before and this is damaging. They need to allow law enforcement sort it.

dave1982 · 08-08-2019 4:14pm

Bigmac1euro wrote: »

Yes by the looks of it.

I didn't anything bout it and I follow a few groups on fb.
There has been a lot of suicides after they exposed as paedophiles. This the damage they cause to families I've issue with kids parents being exposed on fb for chatting to kids

Bigmac1euro · 08-08-2019 4:38pm

dave1982 wrote: »

I didn't anything bout it and I follow a few groups on fb.
There has been a lot of suicides after they exposed as paedophiles. This the damage they cause to families I've issue with kids parents being exposed on fb for chatting to kids

It hasn't yet hit the media, it will be everywhere in the coming days i reckon as the video is being sent around whatsapp groups.

cocaliquid · 08-08-2019 4:44pm

They didn't run over the paedo. They are doing good work . Nothing wrong with exposing people like this and turning them over to the police. That why these groups are allowed to continue.

Bigmac1euro · 08-08-2019 4:46pm

cocaliquid wrote: »

They didn't run over the paedo. They are doing good work . Nothing wrong with exposing people like this and turning them over to the police. That why these groups are allowed to continue.

No he ran under an oncoming transit van head first. While being live streamed.

Prestonites · 08-08-2019 4:52pm

cocaliquid wrote: »

They didn't run over the paedo. They are doing good work . Nothing wrong with exposing people like this and turning them over to the police. That why these groups are allowed to continue.

Allowed yo continue they are openly condemned.

Mint Sauce · 08-08-2019 4:52pm

Prestonites wrote: »

In against these groups as they have named innocents before and this is damaging. They need to allow law enforcement sort it.

This!

cocaliquid wrote: »

They didn't run over the paedo. They are doing good work . Nothing wrong with exposing people like this and turning them over to the police. That why these groups are allowed to continue.

Until an innocent is named maybe. Every few days on Facebook you see posts about 'Known Peadophile spotted in ??????' or 'White Van, Reg ??????, driving slowly around ???????'. One day, the guy might not be what he is claimed to be, and has his name shamed, or the van driver might be genuinely looking for directions.

Report them to the Guards, and let them investigate if there is a case, rather than encouraging vigilantism.

Bigmac1euro · 08-08-2019 4:55pm

I think live streaming is the main issue, these guys have families and its not fair on them when everyone on the block knows you're related to a monster.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 08-08-2019 4:58pm

The vast majority of pedos get themselves into positions of power. These vigilantes wouldn’t do anything if, say, a Royal were accused of pedophilia.

ELM327 · 08-08-2019 4:59pm

GooglePlus wrote: »

I'd condone these groups if they were actually professional about it all and not a bunch of jobless knuckledraggers looking for attention.

Going about mad to tell everyone about what they do but all they have to do is go to the guards with the evidence they have. The facebook videos are nothing but tripe.

Agreed, it would be better if in an ideal world, they were not needed
But they have conclusive proof and get pissed off that the gardaí weren't acting on it. So it's best to have them do something.

That said I do share the concerns others have voiced about false positives.

dave1982 wrote: »

I didn't anything bout it and I follow a few groups on fb.
There has been a lot of suicides after they exposed as paedophiles. This the damage they cause to families I've issue with kids parents being exposed on fb for chatting to kids

Don't care, if they are pedos they deserve what they get. Death is too easy for them.

peneau · 08-08-2019 5:00pm

https://youtu.be/Acpi2hwHadU?t=59

ELM327 · 08-08-2019 5:00pm

Bigmac1euro wrote: »

I think live streaming is the main issue, these guys have families and its not fair on them when everyone on the block knows you're related to a monster.

Would you prefer it was hushed under the carpet like in the old days?

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

The vast majority of pedos get themselves into positions of power. These vigilantes wouldn’t do anything if, say, a Royal were accused of pedophilia.

The church etc? Like in the old days?

CosmicFool · 08-08-2019 5:01pm

Vigilante groups like this are dangerous. What if they go after someone who is completely innocent And this happens? People make mistakes and someone's life can be ruined because of these people.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 08-08-2019 5:09pm

ELM327 wrote: »

Would you prefer it was hushed under the carpet like in the old days?

The church etc? Like in the old days?

The church was investigated precisely because it started to lose power. Until then it couldn’t be.

What’s going on with Epstein is a good example. He’s already taken a beating in prison and we were supposed to see names by now.

Even Saville wasn’t unique.

whisky_galore · 08-08-2019 5:36pm

Leave police work to police, not a bunch of barely educated curtain twitching loons.

Rowley Birkin QC · 08-08-2019 5:56pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

Leave police work to police, not a bunch of barely educated curtain twitching loons.

Exactly.

Self-styled vigilantes attacked the home of a hospital paediatrician after apparently confusing her professional title with the word "paedophile", it emerged yesterday.

Fann Linn · 08-08-2019 5:58pm

Was he a paedophile?

MrFresh · 08-08-2019 6:04pm

ELM327 wrote: »

Agreed, it would be better if in an ideal world, they were not needed
But they have conclusive proof and get pissed off that the gardaí weren't acting on it. So it's best to have them do something.

They don't have a clue what the Gardaí are doing about it. If you report someone like this the local Gardaí aren't going to go down his gaf and haul him out in cuffs. There are specialist investigators on national units that handle this stuff. They have to build a case and get enough for a warrant and ensure they are able to secure enough incriminating evidence when they eventually go for the arrest. It's a pretty complex and difficult process. A person can have their whole system set up to wipe everything with a simple command.

aaqil jettson · 08-08-2019 6:10pm

Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »

Exactly.

Self-styled vigilantes attacked the home of a hospital paediatrician after apparently confusing her professional title with the word "paedophile", it emerged yesterday.

https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/a-tale-told-too-much-the-paediatrician-vigilantes/

It was 28 August in the year 2000. Yvette Cloete, a 30-year-old South African working as a trainee paediatrician in Gwent, returned home to find the word 'Paedo' painted on her front door.

Gwent Chief Inspector Andrew Adams who was central to the case told me 'youngsters' probably did it – 'someone in the 12-17 age bracket. There was no big mob", he said. And that was it.

dave1982 · 08-08-2019 6:23pm

ELM327 wrote: »

Agreed, it would be better if in an ideal world, they were not needed
But they have conclusive proof and get pissed off that the gardaí weren't acting on it. So it's best to have them do something.

That said I do share the concerns others have voiced about false positives.

Don't care, if they are pedos they deserve what they get. Death is too easy for them.

So if your brother father etc was exposed on fb. You wouldn't care how it effected your family? Niece nephews having to live with fact their father is all over fb as as paedophile? Don't get me wrong the person who is caught deserves everything they get but houses have been burned windows broke etc cause someone dad was exposed. Even though he's been thrown out

Gardai cricitise paedophile hunters

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